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Poll Results - What Does 'Quality Content' Mean?

I've had a lot to think about over the past week with Breaking and Entering coming to a close. It's been 2 years and over 75 pages. I've learned a lot, both from the actual drawing process and from my Patrons. There's still a drive to get better on my part. That's why the color poll in particular was a little rough on me. Some felt let down at the mere suggestion of dropping color. It's not hard to see why either.

It was pointed out to me that I started my Patreon to offer the TGTF crowd quality content in a space that was severely lacking it. I've done a lot of good work, but if I ever lost a thread this would be the one I lost. Knowing this, I asked myself what quality content means and suddenly things became much more clear.

What is quality content?

1) It is pages in color.

2) It is at least a fully completed page a week.

3) It is offering the fetish content first without sacrificing it for the sake of bad narrative.

4) It is cohesive, consistent, and interesting.

Because of these things I feel like the second year of Patreon was the opposite of the first. Organizationally it was a success, but content wise it was a failure. I want to streamline things and offer you the best of both worlds. Having heard the preferences and critiques, despite the vote I now feel like color from now on is the correct way to go.

Breaking and Entering needs to end now for a few reasons. The plot is a mess. The consistency is gone. The fetish content has practically gone missing. These are harsh critiques but I really need to acknowledge them. That's not to say it was bad. I did good work, but I can do way better with a fresh start. Spending two months coloring pages that aren't even porn is a waste of my time and your money. I hope you agree. So with that in mind, the last pages of Breaking and Entering are being posted this month. I hope I convince you to stick around to see the new stuff.

Comments

Your intuition has brought you success. You shouldn't feel daunted to try new things I'm sure future content will be great! With TGTF story stuff is important, got to make the characters interesting or make the situation unique to make the transformations juicy IMO. Which you definitely did for B&E. That said it's a balance, can't go too many pages without titillation :). Thanks you for your hard work! I look forward to more :D.

Didn't expect to see Little Napoleon lurking around here :)

Freya

Somewhere along the lines of 3 and 4, in my opinion.

Angry Nerd Bird

Aww, I wrote a long comment but my internet ate it. Summery, I loved B&E, and enjoy your story driven stuff. I love to see how the story unfolds and how the characters react. I prefer color, but I don't have a problem with black and white. I love all your art and look forward to seeing what you come up with next. Everyone is different, some like story, some are in it for the lewds only. Just mix and match and do what you love most. I know your art is never a disappointment, regardless of the form.

Freya

Remember that experimenting sometimes creates marvels. Don't be so harsh on yourself because it might limit your creativity. Love your work ;)

Kwiat

Ho boy. This is a big decision. I can see where you're coming from, however. I love your comics, regardless of the whole TGTF ideas, but the entire aspect is gone. It is, regardless, still a great read and awesome story. You are the best!

I can see where you're coming from, Cora. Wrapping up BnE might be the right call--- it's an interesting setting for something more longform, like a lewd webcomic, but if you're looking to pack as much TG, transformation and general fun in a few sexy panels as you can it's kinda drifted away from there. Just a suggestion, but maybe focus on short sequences and one-shots for a little bit after it wraps up, just to get back into your groove. Then find another lewd story to tell alongside the one-shots.

GreatJT

Haha, it's interesting the range of comments you've gotten on this! For myself, I'll throw my lot on the side of craving a story as much as the fetish content—and honestly, I've been enjoying these latest pages! Your art is inspiring, the action style is fun, and you've written characters I care about and I want to know what happens to them ^^ It's true that we won't be able to satisfy everyone, but I like to think it's not a zero-sum game, and that for every person we disappoint, we bring in someone else to whom the new content does appeal. Although our patronages are different, I do suspect there is some overlap, and so far people seem to have been very tolerant of a story with limited fetish content over on my end. So if you do end up not managing fetish content on every page, as long as you have a good story to tell (which even with B&E, you do—I wanted to see what happened next after every page!), there will always be an audience ready to support you! But if you decide to focus on porn, there's always an audience to support you for that, too XD

Little Napoleon

Loved BNE, the place where it is going now could easily be a launch pad for a manga of some kind. I think if you focused more on short story arcs and maybe used recurring characters could help stop the plot from running away from you.

Aetherwave

I like character driven fetish content. Art comes second for me so black and white is fine. Plot is nice but I am not exactly looking for el goonish shive, which is super slow. I like transformations, heightened attraction, mild mental alterations, embarassing situations, pet play. I am turned off by mind break, snuff, torture. BnE for me went off the rails around p.32 where it kinda went full dbz.

Dude, the fetish you are most famous for is gender bender and impregnation. Do that. I don’t honestly care for the plot. I really don’t. You could make single images for what I care. Don’t really care about colour either. Porn porn and more porn. Nothing really else.

marm

Ah was hoping we would of seen that dragon guy losing his manhood ah but I hope for cool stuff down the road

Kurt

In my opinion you are a really good artist, and BnE is not this big mess. A good "porn" comics is not made only with porn scenes. The story has to be good as well. BnE has a lot of porn contents and a good hidden story. Don't know how you will end this comic but at this moment you have a lot of possibility, with a lot of porn chances^^. Come on Cora you are good and all your comics are good. Keep going. <3

I've always thought your manga b&w is excellent, which easily helped overcome lack of full color on any of your projects. I've really loved B&E but i do agree it has become a bit of a mess. But sounds like you've got a good handle on the direction you want to go, and I'm looking forward to all the amazing tftg you'll be making going forward. Even with some hiccups and the occasional narrative that isn't fully my cup of tea. Your still my favorite artist and I'll happily keep on supporting you. <3

Don't be to harsh on yourself or your work. I love what you do and I feel like a good plot makes porn so much better. I'm following and supporting a few artist's here and I never felt like you weren't worth the time or money. So keep up the good work and dial in on your priorities :)

I like, never comment on Patreon, but you're basically the main reason I'm on here and I recommend you to absolutely everyone who shares my interests. Your art is phenomenal and you're just still dialing in the business side of things like any relatively new entrepreneur. Thanks for doing what you do, and for having so much integrity. Don't be too hard on yourself. 💜

Ada Powers

I'm definitely sticking around, not only are you a quality producer but you're solid in character as well and regardless of the direction you take from here forward, I'm going to enjoy supporting you. 💜 Thanks for being so amazing, and I'm excited to see what next steps you take. 💜💜

Izzy Jones

I will keep supporting if I can irrelevant of what you change. Half or more of the fetish content I view is B&W, your B&W is higher quality than most. As for losing interest in B&E when the futa cat girl didn't get a long enough scene with her enjoying turning and using the other characters I was kinda a bit bummed out. However I wasn't going to stop reading or caring less. Content will never be perfect for me or usually more than a few people at a time. As long as you are enjoying providing content keep doing whatever. p.s. more multi boob sharks :3

forty_five

I love the color and I'll be the first and foremost to say, the color choices are always the best, perhaps its wise to separate the two though? As there seems to be for color and those who are not for it. As I honestly will always say color adds depth it allows details otherwise missed to show. I thank you for your good work. No matter what you've shown integrity I don't see in many others. While I disagree about the worth of breaking and entering, I can see your choice and wish you luck as we move forward. (had to edit a bit and add some missing thoughts)

RozenKnight

For some reason I like black and white a lot, my eyes aren't that good and it makes it easier to focus on details that I wouldn't be able to see as clear in color >_< it also leaves a little to the imagination in what you think would be the perfect shade of color of certain things~ like the amount of blush on someone's face :3 :3

Berrie

I voted for faster releases, and while I'm not sure I agree fully that this is the best direction to go, I do understand your point of view, particularly considering how difficult it is to take people's money and in at least some respects sacrifice the quality of your work. I count myself among the quieter selection of your patrons who would have followed you through whichever decision you decided to make. For me, it was more about supporting an artist I've liked for a long time (and supporting the extreme quality in the themes you work with) than it was for any material return. I don't really have any expectation of you than that you continue doing what you've been doing, and while I love BnE and am intrigued by where it may have gone from here, I eagerly look forward to works you produce in the future. And finally, again, while I was one of those who voted to forego colour, I have a huge amount of respect for your going against the majority and your reasoning for doing so. I just hope that you don't take these criticisms you've put forth personally, as an attack on the quality of your work, because while constructive criticism and a desire to improve upon your weaknesses are great qualities, the other extreme is potentially paralyzing. Keep your chin up, and keep doing awesome. Seriously, thanks for everything you've done thus far.

Runefox

No matter what you chose to do, I would have stayed on and supported you. For me, it's not about the fetish part. It's never about that for me. It was the story and the art that made me interested and compelled to become a patron. In my personal opinion (and this is coming from someone who just writes stories and creates plots purely based on whatever the heck comes to mind at the time), it didn't feel too inconsistent to me. Were there some things that could have been continued upon or came back to in, say, a later chapter or even sequel? Sure. Were there a few things that seemed to have come out of nowhere leaving us to guess "how the hell did THAT CHARACTER get there?! Where'd they come from?!" Absolutely. Could those instances have been cut to keep it a little bit more consistent? Maybe. Maybe cutting them would have made the plot seem rather.....lackluster than you'd want it. Or something to that affect. I don't blame you for wanting to end BnE and wanting to move on to other projects. Especially if YOU feel like the plot of BnE has become a mess. I won't stop supporting you because of YOUR choices. Pump out a project with an interesting plot and I'll be hooked much like I was with BnE. (Maybe bring back Aidan the, now, cow girl's comic perhaps?? I honestly forget the title for that comic now. ha ha. XD) Anyway, the choices you make for what you want to pump out are all up to you the artist. Those who continue to support you will no matter what you decide to create. Those who don't? Well.....my mom always said that, "If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all" and I'll just leave it at that. XD (Sorry for the wall of text. Only way I could get the entirety of my thoughts put out. Hopefully, I didn't ramble too much and got fairly to the point rather quick. XD)

Kvaloth

I prefer the colored pages. It can difficult without it to tell what's happening in a panel or sometimes even which character is in frame. You've been doing great so far, please keep going!

Xylophone

Keep up the good work! I love your work in color because it stands out so much in the TFTG art world! I’m excited to see what project you’ll take on after all of this is wrapped up. C:

Bean

Doing my best to wrap up everything as neat as possible!

CoraBlue

Don't end it on a cliffhanger, though! O.O

Occ

I'll do my best to make the next project even better. Scouts honor!

CoraBlue

I don't want to be too harsh and sorry if I end up sounding so but I agree with you, Cora. The plot for BnE became a mess and a lost interest in it. When you first revealed your Justice System comic I got really excited and it made me a little sad that you stopped doing that in favor of finishing BnE (at least for what's it become now). Don't get me wrong, I still very much like your artstyle and I think you nailed some REALLY nice poses and scenery in the new BnE pages but when it comes to both fetish content and narrative it's...not exactly what I expected from it. You are still doing a fantastic job with your drawings, I'll repeat that as many times as I need to.

Tell me more about this. What is it about black and white you prefer? Would alternate uploads be something that was acceptable or is it the speed you prefer?

CoraBlue

Hey, just do what makes you happy.

I'll be doing the work from here on out. I don't think long waits will be a problem. At the beginning of the year pages took me 8-15 hours. Now they're more like 4-6. Adding color shouldn't make me any worse off than I was only last year in terms of speed.

CoraBlue

I personally want your pages without Color, really.

Well this is unfortunate. I was really hoping for more from BnE overall. Don't get me wrong I'm down for new projects but I have gotten rather attached in general to this story you have created thus far, but it was the comic that I found you from so I guess I am biased. That being said it's your decision and I'm not knocking you for it. I'm sure whatever you choose to do will pan out fantasticly

kurogetsui

I think the answer lies within 2) and 4). Color just isn't necessary to enjoy the content or the narrative, and not having long waits between releases is definitely a plus. How would you be going about the color? Yourself, or another artist doing the color work?


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