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EXACTLY WHY IM NOT A FAN OF K POP & RANKING BTS SONGS BEST TO WORST..

EXACTLY WHY IM NOT A FAN OF K POP & RANKING BTS SONGS BEST TO WORST..

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It’s very hard to binge to only two groups, I hope you do find a different outlook on KPOP on what it really is and find more groups and solo idols to listen to Nigel!

aeraaa

Yes! i went to a SVT concert a few mnths ago for the first time They live in the insomnia portion of my brain rent free everynight!

irony wilson

Totally agree!

Peach

To the people that were saying “that are fake” in the stream like plz bfr it doesn't take to be fan to know how much kpop idols love their fans and how they be showing their life and share many things with their fans what artist do that other than kpop idols? They give out their life, they don't have freedom but they still show love pure love to their fans And let's not forget how many things they go through just to debut it only takes one random kpop survival show to understand how much they give just to be an idol so lets not discredit them. I love boracitys videos nigel and I'm glad you reacted to it 💜.personally don't think that anyone that loves BTS should be hating kpop like for me personally it doesn't even make sense to hate kpop and love BTS when they are literally the face kpop. They are international now however they are still kpop idols and they themselves refer themselves as idol in multiple recent videos .one example for this would be how jimin got emotional in the pixel when the fans talk about doing kpop for life. Although they weren't talking about BTS or him, kpop is his root. I'm just an army but I don't really agree with hating the kpop thing ITS OKAY TO NOT WANT TO CHECK OUT OTHER GROUPS THO, like ALL IM SAYING IS WE SHOULDNT BE HATING IT. (I AM JUST EXPRESSING MY OPINON DONT COME AT ME😭 I love y'all and nigel 💜✨)

Hannah🎸

I AGREE 100% with everything that you just said including the seventeen part hehe

therealdydyy

THANK YOU!!!! This is what I wanted to say but couldn't find the right words. NOT EVERY GROUP IS GONNA BE LIKE BTS! Please people get that mindset out of your head and take a chance. Bts was the first group I started listen to but now Ateez is my #1 group but their nothing like Bts and that's ok for me. Widen your perspective people!!!

Simplyniyaa

and nigel, if you choose to do so, i would suggest that you check out suga's suchwita episodes with seventeen's hoshi and woozi to kind of check out another group that in theory "operates" the same as bts especially with them both being groups who are authentic in their craft and participate in writing, producing, and even choreographing their own content.

drizzy

idk if anyone else is gonna pay attention to this since im like hella late😭but on the whole not being a fan of the kpop world, i once had the exact same mindset as nigel with only being an armystay for a while so i would only listen to bts and stray kids. i also thought that kpop was very childish and kid music and that bts had a completely different sound so it didn't necessarily feel like "kpop", but more so just "good music that just so happens to be in korean". i can say that I PERSONALLY (im capitalizing this bc it's my opinion so don't come for me) after awhile got kinda bored only listening to two groups. i was very new to kpop so i would binge bts and stray kids content all at once at the same time and i wanted something else to peak my interest. at the beginning of trying to find something new, i did end up comparing a lot of groups to bts because of how successful bts are, how great their music sounds, the message behind their songs ,their hardwork and dedication, personality, etc., but i didn't realize how damaging that was in finding my own personal taste, as well as to bts themselves. as army, when we see people reacting to other groups and comparing them to bts, we are very quick to say "oh they're not like bts", "they will never be like bts" and so on but as much as we say that as a defense, maybe we should change our perspective. yes, we are correct that NO ONE is like bts but bts and it's not a bad thing at all. when i started listening to seventeen, i would subconsciously compare them to bts because at the time that was all i knew. like if a certain song or group didn't live up to the standards that bts had set in my mind, then the music was automatically shit. i soon had to realize that not being "like bts" is a good thing. so sometimes as army, if those who choose to do so, i would suggest and encourage us to take a step back and tell ourselves that if we decide to check out another group like seventeen, got7, nct, treasure or whoever, THEY ARE NOT BTS and that is okay. after changing my mindest on that aspect, seventeen, nct, and enhypen ended up becoming my absolute favorite groups ever, just like how bts are still my favorites. and not to compare but i am comparing lol, seventeen contributes into writing, producing, and choreographing their own music, EXACTLY like bts does, but people won't give them a try simply because they are not bts. not everyone will be like bts so we kind of have to take bts out of our minds we when do decide to check out other groups because like i said before, bts is bts and when i say that these other groups aren't like bts, that isn't taking away from how successful and wonderful and amazing as bts are, it's just the truth. not every kpop group is going to sound like bts, look like bts, perform like bts, because at the end of the day, THEY ARE NOT BTS , but that doesn't have to deter us away from branching out and wanting to get into other groups.

drizzy

the issue i have with Kpop (excluding BTS and some other groups) is it to me sounds like noise. It sounds like their company gives them music that has every sound under the sun and throws it all togeather with no meaning behind it. Alot of it to me is not pleasing to the ear. And i find that the bigger the group the harder it is for me because its hard to fit so many people on a 3 min song. I just wish people werent so angry with ARMYs who only like BTS. And i think this way not only about Kpop but western music as well. All the music in the US is a revamped song that has been playing over and over again on the radio. Everything sounds the same, there isnt much meaning if any at all and the singer is someone no one knows who has one good song OR its a well known artist with all their music sounding the same. So for me i think its music in general that is hurting.

Mary

Rn my eye is so swollen like hell so I couldn't watch the stream but I was in there for a little while and I just wanted to share my thoughts. I understand you. I wouldn't say I agree with not being a kpop fan since I listen to a lot of kpop and I do enjoy a lot of the songs but I understand how certain army feel. For me I am Atiny(Ateez Fan) and Army for life, their just two groups who I personally have a deeper connection with. Neither groups feel like your typical kpop group whatsoever and that's what I love about both groups. I relate to each groups songs a lot and I never get tired of their music. They put so much hard work into their craft and that's what makes it enjoyable. And I could never see myself saying "they dance better" or "I like their music better" They both equally have my heart and I love them for eternity. Though I won't lie stray kids have been growing on me bc of Nigel. I think my appreciation for them as increased as I've been going down this rabbit alongside Nigel but that's the beauty of music. Love you Nigel, love Bts. and love Army💜🫰 Happy festa(also nigel that tier list was ass... jk 😂but still😕)

Simplyniyaa

I agree with you. I like a few songs from other groups but BTS is the only Kpop group I connect with and has done so much for me. I relate to their songs sometimes on emotional level and only they make me feel that way. I can't say I am a Kpop fan I am a BTS fan and part of the ARMY. They will be my forever group. Namjoon is the best leader ever

Lisa Marie

i feel like its a dumb time to recommed videos. but i will recommed watching stray kids vlogs and solos. cause i love them. https://youtu.be/0s72WAUZViY [SKZ VLOG] HAN : 소소한 일상로그 https://youtu.be/qAMG31NH4u0 [SKZ VLOG] Lee Know : LEE KNOW LOG 5 https://youtu.be/cNxWtnFl4LI [SKZ VLOG] Bang Chan : CHAN BANG VLOG https://youtu.be/jpnpPXT4Tug [SKZ VLOG] HAN : 뿌듯한 일상로그 these are prob some of the most watched ones, they are very funny and they show stray kids in they're most normal form XD i really did like this stream! love you're reactions ( again english is not my first language ) (:

Linostay

I was going to say something but i agree with Makayla. It is not a matter of being closed minded. Not Listening to another group has nothing to do with being closed minded. Its a matter of interest. If he has no interest or his heart is not open to listen to other groups yet, thats totally up to Nigel. Listening out of ‘pressure’ or ‘force’ wont make it genuine and will only make him burn out even more. We come on to Nigel’s patreon for BTS and Stray Kids contents (and abit of others). Lets just wait to what HE decides. can always suggest, but never pressure him into anything :)

Extreemely

Truly agree that it all comes within the heart and if you feel it, you feel it. If you don’t then thats ok. BTS will always have my heart, and I will always be with BTS. They’re my age so i really relate to them. SVT is another breed and I cherish them individually too. Im glad they have friendship between each other and are within HYBE!

Extreemely

I understand Nigel I wrote this as a reply but going to say it again here: I look for how artists make me feel and for deep connection beyond the surface and limitations. I need to feel the artist like they are the flowers of many colors and types (roses, daisies, hyacinth, etc.) and I get to grab hold, admire, cherish, adore, and smell (take in their heart and their art) of them. Like I have to feel it with every part of my body and this reason is why I no longer listen to many American artists. Bts filled that category because no others I've noticed are as one of a kind and rare as they are. Its just shows that these 7 beautiful (inside and out), gifted, rare, raw, flawed, imperfect, rooted, disciplined, intelligent, artly (not a word but they are art-inside and out) men have become my forever heart.

Peach

I agree I never thought I would like any other groups. Bts is and was my forever heart but Seventeen (though I'm not deep into them like I was with BTS in the starting journey) for some reason is grabbing my heart bit by bit. I look for how artists make me feel and for deep connection beyond the surface and limitations. I need to feel the artist like they are the flowers of many colors and types (roses, daisies, hyacinth, etc.) and I get to grab hold, admire, cherish, adore, and smell (take in their heart and their art) of them. Like I have to feel it with every part of my body and this reason is why I no longer listen to American artists. Bts filled that category because no others I've noticed are as one of a kind and rare as they are. Its just shows that these 7 beautiful (inside and out), gifted, rare, raw, flawed, imperfect, rooted, disciplined, intelligent, artly (not a word but they are art-inside and out) men have become my forever heart.

Peach

Here you go!😊https://discord.gg/FKNTH4pvaH

Ollie(Firexr)

Exactly Makayla, people can’t seem to comprehend how time consuming reacting and making videos is. And the MASIVE amount of content he has to go through with just two groups. I watched creators take on group after group at the same time and then gets so burnt out and so far behind. It’s not even funny it’s too much. We should be thankful for what he is able to do right now. Doesn’t mean other groups won’t come in the future, but let him get through the content he has first. A little empathy For a human being and their time and stress level goes a long way 🤷‍♀️

Moorgra

does anyone have his discord link, I cant find it.

Drew Eikner

it's not rude, rude is more harsh than what I said

✮ℕ𝕚𝕘𝕙𝕥𝕆𝕨𝕝✮

I wouldn't say he's closed minded, he just doesn't want to check out anymore groups right now. he isn't closed minded at all, he isn't rejecting listening to other groups, he is just doing what he wants to do and saying that is kinda rude :/

Makayla Vante

Is anyone here an Armycarat? I’ve only just recently learnt them in more depth (just simple videos and their recent album) after watching many BTS x SVT crumbs (eg: suchwita, tiktoks etc). They’re literally 13 jins and jks 🥹🫠 Chaos. Love it

Extreemely

i love alot of groups there's a lot of groups you haven't heard of yet you're being too close minded I think you would like ONEUS and ATEEZ just be more open minded Nigel

✮ℕ𝕚𝕘𝕙𝕥𝕆𝕨𝕝✮

The song rankings was so fun!!! 🤣 you should rank MVs next!! 💜

Seneca

This video is exactly how I feel as a fan of BTS 🙌 Fans of Harry Styles aren’t called “British pop” fans lol– they’re fans of a specific artist’s music, lyrics, message, etc! It really bothers me when people say BTS is the same as all the rest. Every artist is different.

Seneca


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