KnockBack, Episode 6: When Anime Was Underground
Added 2018-03-22 16:00:00 +0000 UTCIn the late '80s, Dagan and his friend would venture to a monthly comic book convention at a Long Island Holiday Inn, where a lone merchant would sell mysterious video tapes from Japan for $30 apiece. These tapes were full of cartoons that he'd never seen or heard of before, and it was at this point -- earlier than all but the best-connected and absolute nerdiest westerners -- that Dagan was introduced to anime. The rest, as they say, is history. This podcast is all about Dagan's origin story with anime. Tales of scouring, discovering, and collecting are told, old anime is discussed and dissected, and a line is drawn between that Holiday Inn nearly three decades ago, when anime was as niche as it got, to today, where it has never been bigger.
Comments
Duly noted. Glad you liked the show!
Colin Moriarty
2018-04-03 18:49:53 +0000 UTCGreat Listen as always, If you were ever to dip back in the pool I think the 2 shows Dagan spoke about, Cowboy Bebop or Samurai Champloo are great options without alot of the tropes that are in modern anime.
Brett Gomolka
2018-04-02 14:20:22 +0000 UTCEntirely understand. This is why I haven't watched any new anime since One Punch Man. There's just too much to do, read, watch, and play.
Kaz Redclaw
2018-03-31 07:13:48 +0000 UTCThank you for listening, and for the recommendation.
Colin Moriarty
2018-03-30 21:30:41 +0000 UTCI'm so glad you enjoyed!
Colin Moriarty
2018-03-30 21:30:30 +0000 UTCThose sound interesting, but my one hangup is that there is just a lot of other stuff I wanna watch more. Like for all of us in this modern era of media, there's too much.
Colin Moriarty
2018-03-30 21:30:21 +0000 UTCI'm glad you liked it! It's my favorite episode of the show so far. =)
Colin Moriarty
2018-03-30 21:29:45 +0000 UTCI'm a huge anime fan so I really enjoyed this episode. I highly recommend you guys watch Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood if you haven't yet.
strawhatninja
2018-03-30 16:21:20 +0000 UTCVoltron was my absolute favorite (next to ThunderCats and Fraggle Rock). This brought back so many good memories of being a kid of the 80s.
Nicole Webb
2018-03-29 19:52:29 +0000 UTCSome that you guys might not like, but could still be worth watching: Angel Beats, Kill la Kill, Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex, Last Exile, and Paranoia Agent. You already mentioned One-Punch Man, which was quite good. I forgot Tokyo Godfathers in my last post, that movie's worth watching too.
Kaz Redclaw
2018-03-29 02:31:15 +0000 UTCI'm not completely up on anime these days, but I have watched a few that were really good. Eden of the East is pretty solid, The Summer Wars was an excellent feature film. Psycho-Pass is one that Colin might find interesting in a "this is the opposite of the kind of government he likes" sort of way, it's about a totalitarian sort of pre-crime society where everyone is monitored for violent thoughts. Darker than Black is a pretty cool Scifi super-hero show. If you can find it, Kino's Journey is fascinating with experiments in different cultures. I'm sure I could dredge up some others, but there's a few to start with. I'm pretty much against the Moe style anime that is most popular these days though. You can occasionally find merit in those, but most of them are just bad.
Kaz Redclaw
2018-03-29 02:23:22 +0000 UTCAbsolutely loved this episode. One of my favorite so far. After listening and hearing a bit of what anime Dagan likes, I cannot recommend Aldnoah Zero and Gurren Lagann enough. Aldnoah Zero is a great mecha/sci fi anime full of political intrigue and Gurren Lagann is just an amazingly fun/different anime I think he would like.
Brock Thomas Walsh
2018-03-28 21:59:17 +0000 UTCDagan'll be disappointed that you're not related to Vincent.
Colin Moriarty
2018-03-27 18:03:10 +0000 UTCLOL.
Colin Moriarty
2018-03-27 18:02:57 +0000 UTCI'm so glad you enjoyed the episode! Dagan did such a great job on this one.
Colin Moriarty
2018-03-27 18:02:51 +0000 UTCYes, that is ironic. =D
Colin Moriarty
2018-03-27 18:02:35 +0000 UTCI just wanted to say thanks for answering my question on the podcast Colin and Dagan. I almost spit my water out at work when I heard it just now. I agree with what Dagan said. I also love Trigun. The three series Dagan talked about with that answer got me into the genre. I loved Big O as well. I'd also say Gundam was a big part of my anime introduction. For anyone who hasn't watched Gundam in a while, I'd recommend watching 00 (a decade old and my absolute favorite) and Iron Blooded Orphans. Unfortunately, I'm not related to Vincent, a criminal who busts open safes or in the mafia. Lol. 😁
Jimmy Valentine
2018-03-26 20:52:29 +0000 UTCGreat episode, but dear god do NOT watch Sword Art Online. In terms of abysmal nerd power fantasies that show takes the cake.
desperateLuck
2018-03-26 18:55:27 +0000 UTCAmazing episode! I am more around Colin's age and in Australia so coming across anime here was very rare in my childhood. I remember seeing Ninja Scroll, Akira and NGE on late at night SBS (like an international channel) and I was WAYYY too young to be watching some of them haha. After that it was tracking down DVDs of series like FMA, Beserk and random ones like Eureka 7, Xepheron (? Maybe it was basically NGE with music influences). God it was good. Yeah I totally get stepping back a bit. There's A LOT out there now too so finding the good stuff means wading through it all. Great stuff Dagan.
Smokey Joh
2018-03-26 00:12:55 +0000 UTCGreat conversation. It's ironic, I was actually driving home from an Anime convention while listening to this.
SLtheFMA
2018-03-25 23:30:55 +0000 UTCThank you so much for listening! I'm glad you enjoyed the episode. I'm good on recommendations for the time being -- I'm slowly working my way through Attack on Titan for now -- but I'm sure I'll dip back in sometime in the future. =)
Colin Moriarty
2018-03-25 06:03:09 +0000 UTCJust finished this, another excellent episode. I wish I was there talking with y’all because I have so much to talk about, growing up with anime. My inspiration to draw is similar to Dagans, in how I found anime and became fascinated with it. I also have so much I could recommend, if you have a particular genre you want to watch let me know, I can recommend a anime for you. Colin, I do recommend the Danganropa 3 anime because technically it’s part of the lore.
Jason Bristol
2018-03-24 21:08:38 +0000 UTCAh, yes. Well, it was. =D
Colin Moriarty
2018-03-24 09:40:18 +0000 UTCHaha you said that you use to watch Finders Keepers at 2 am and get stoned and you said it was the highlight of you're life. It made me laugh.
Cameron Paterson
2018-03-24 03:55:09 +0000 UTCWhere was this quote said? I don't even recall. I record so much content. -_-
Colin Moriarty
2018-03-24 03:46:59 +0000 UTCIm not a Anime guy but I need to give Cowboy Bebop a shot. I tried Attack on Titan it didn't really grab me. Also that was super funny " That was the highlight of my life" Hahaha.
Cameron Paterson
2018-03-24 03:04:16 +0000 UTCThank you! Glad you enjoyed it.
Colin Moriarty
2018-03-23 21:59:47 +0000 UTCThe words Japan and Animation do go so well together, I can see why people wanted to call it that. Growing up with Dagan, I'm all mixed up on what was on TV and what wasn't.
Colin Moriarty
2018-03-23 21:59:38 +0000 UTCAwesome podcast once again! If you havent seen deathnote i would highly recommend it as its one of my storys. Its like a cat and mouse killer vs detective done extremely well
Noah piccolo
2018-03-23 19:14:11 +0000 UTCHowl's Moving Castle is my favorite from Ghibli film. Spiried Away is a super close second.
Carson Smith
2018-03-23 16:41:39 +0000 UTCI remember me and all my dumb know-nothing friends called it Japanimation for so fricken long. We used to have to pretend to be asleep, put headphones on the tv, and try to watch the Cell storyline of DBZ at 1am in the morning because that’s when Cartoon Network would air them.
Alex Ball
2018-03-23 08:07:35 +0000 UTC*Studio Ghibli
Will Hahn
2018-03-23 01:40:01 +0000 UTCListening to this right now, it’s fantastic. I noticed that you two talked about Sudio Ghibley (excuse me if I didn’t spell the name correctly). Howl’s Moving Castle by them is an absolute masterpiece. I’m sure Dagan has seen it, but you should check it out if you get the chance, Colin!
Will Hahn
2018-03-23 01:34:33 +0000 UTCThanks for listening, ma!
Colin Moriarty
2018-03-22 21:51:05 +0000 UTCAwesome to hear you guys speak about anime. Memories... 👏🏻
BettyAnn Moriarty
2018-03-22 21:40:41 +0000 UTCPlease enjoy!
Colin Moriarty
2018-03-22 19:54:24 +0000 UTCAs a huge anime fan I’m really excited for you guys to cover this topic. 80’s and 90’s was the best era.
Kevin Theal
2018-03-22 19:36:06 +0000 UTCWhat I love is that I thought everyone was watching this shit. Such was Dagan's influence.
Colin Moriarty
2018-03-22 19:13:52 +0000 UTCI would have never expected it, which is why I told that story about Crunchyroll, and how I took the meeting to be nice, not realizing it mattered.
Colin Moriarty
2018-03-22 19:13:31 +0000 UTCI loved DBZ in my younger years.
Colin Moriarty
2018-03-22 19:13:07 +0000 UTCI think we can all remember that time that we first discovered anime as kids. It blew me away because the story telling was much more mature and emotional than what western animation was offering for children. The action was always super dynamic and intense too. Anime still is awesome to watch and I happily subscribe to Crunchyroll.
Carson Smith
2018-03-22 18:57:23 +0000 UTCYu Yu Hakusho, Cowboy Bebop, Dragonball. those were my first anime i saw and still love.
Joey Finelli
2018-03-22 17:51:16 +0000 UTCI remember when I first discovered Trigun when i was maybe 13 and then realizing that Suncoast video had a small anime section. Then i had to save up for about a year to buy each dvd one at a time because they were somewhere between $24.99 to $34.99 for a DVD that only contained 3-4 episodes. Anime was very different back then and has been interesting to see how it's become such a mainstream media over the years.
Mario Miranda
2018-03-22 16:57:59 +0000 UTC
