Side Quest, Episode 23: Revisiting the Mass Effect 3 Ending Fiasco
Added 2018-05-14 17:04:00 +0000 UTCHard truths.
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Thank you for watching! I'm pleased that the episode resonated with you. =)
Colin Moriarty
2018-05-16 23:28:24 +0000 UTCThank you so much! I really appreciate it. Maybe it'll set a sort of precedent for others to follow?
Colin Moriarty
2018-05-16 23:28:07 +0000 UTCGreat video, its up to the creater to do what they want with their game not journalist or gamers, when nintendo showed an early preview of Zelda BoTW people were saying its time to make Link a female. No its not your creation, if you want a female, gay, straight, hispanic or what ever in a game its up to you to create it not force others to do it for you. Anyway great video Colin.
Hose A Contra Razz
2018-05-16 14:39:03 +0000 UTCThis was such a great video! As much as I loved the subject matter (Mass Effect is definitely one of my most beloved series in gaming) the best part about this was your self reflection on a part of your history and how you've grown from that experience. It is RARE that you ever come across that in the internet landscape it's really commendable. A story both macro and micro.... Kudos!
Caera Bradshaw
2018-05-16 06:03:54 +0000 UTCThat was 2012! More than six years ago! Time flies...
Colin Moriarty
2018-05-15 06:45:33 +0000 UTCThank you so much!
Colin Moriarty
2018-05-15 06:45:19 +0000 UTCI think ME is gonna go away for awhile.
Colin Moriarty
2018-05-15 06:45:13 +0000 UTCWell, I coined the term, so I apologize about that. =D (For what it's worth, I'm almost positive I coined the term "bro shooter," as well, but I can't prove it.)
Colin Moriarty
2018-05-15 06:44:54 +0000 UTCI don't believe in the conspiracy theories that all of the drama was baked into the marketing plan.
Colin Moriarty
2018-05-15 06:44:27 +0000 UTCThank you for your kind words!
Colin Moriarty
2018-05-15 06:43:45 +0000 UTCWhat a great video! I thought this was super interesting, especially since I’m not a fan of Mass Effect at all (although I respect Bioware and this trilogy). It was funny to see footage of you back in 2013, you look so much younger without a beard lol 😂
Will Hahn
2018-05-15 06:42:30 +0000 UTCAlways have to appreciate somebody who can admit when they were wrong about something. I feel like that doesn't happen enough in this day and age. Great video, Colin!
Taylor Laduron
2018-05-15 05:11:02 +0000 UTCUntil Andromeda, I always wondered if they balked at giving this trilogy definitive endings as a way to potentially revisit one of the open avenues? For example (spoilers), when Joker and the crew landed on the new planet? Because of this, I really was not angry at the ending and still have a sliver of hope. Post Andromeda, my concern is no more ME ever again.
Chris Suhre
2018-05-14 21:04:34 +0000 UTCI can't stand the term "gamer entitlement" - I agree that you shouldn't tell a creator to change anything. If you wanna hate it or wish it were different, thats fine, but I'm never going to tell an artist to change their work. -- I actually requested a Side Quest on gamer entitlement vs critical consumer. This is pretty close! As usual, keep it up my dude.
Owen
2018-05-14 20:58:15 +0000 UTCNot to comment again so soon but I'm curious if anyone shares this sentiment. I felt that this was largely an issue by EA and not Bioware. Dead Space (another of my favorite series) became effectively an action game by 3 with multiplayer and everything largely because EA was unhappy with sales of Dead Space 2 (in my opinion just as terrifying as the 1st but for different reasons). I felt that Bioware was able to fight off EA but had to give in to certain demands (again adding pointless multiplayer) which I believe created an ending that ANYONE could enjoy not just ME fans. Seems it came down to a sales decision possibly overwriting creative vision. They got the patches of new endings out awfully quick when claiming the original ending was the "intended" final product
Marc Elfering
2018-05-14 18:51:44 +0000 UTCAs we say hindsight is 20/20. It’s good to see you reflecting Colin. I feel that people were very frustrated in the ME3 ending because many people when they dedicate so much time and feelings into a series feel robbed when it doesn’t turn out how they thought or envisioned. Which there is nothing wrong with that and I I think they also need to realize that’s what happens when you are not the creator of the project. Looking forward to your e3 content and as always thanks for the great thought provoking content!
Eric S
2018-05-14 18:50:10 +0000 UTCI forgot about the space baby!
Colin Moriarty
2018-05-14 18:12:17 +0000 UTCYou got it! I honestly think a lot of the commentary about me is strange, and not really reflective of reality, or of what I put out into the world. That said, I'm happy to reflect on -- and own up to -- mistakes when I make them. As I've been known to say in person to those in my life, I always apologize without reservation when I think I'm wrong.
Colin Moriarty
2018-05-14 18:12:04 +0000 UTCIt's great to see you owning up to past mistakes. Takes guts, wish more people would do the same. Also, am I the only one who hated the ME3 ending, not because of ignoring the choices but the sudden inclusion of a magic space baby? :P
Dale Son
2018-05-14 17:48:25 +0000 UTCAlso, side note: Cole's initial appearance for inFamous 2 was dog shit, and I will forever stand by Team Fix This Shit in that regard. What the fuck were they thinking? (I know, they were thinking that he should be handsome because that would sell more units, but, come on)
Ian (616Entertainment)
2018-05-14 17:38:43 +0000 UTCThere's been a change in you lately, Colin. You mentioned last time you were on Rubin that you had been reflecting on certain things, and you constantly talk about how your mind can be changed because you're not permanently closed off to ideas and concepts, even if they're not the one you gravitate toward. On that Rubin appearance you threw out an "I'm sorry if my tweet ACTUALLY hurt you," you're making appearances on other shows (thanks again, I'll thank you forever for that), and you're here addressing what you see as a mistake from your past. This is really interesting stuff, and its exciting to watch you go through these changes as a long-time follower. The video was excellently crafted, and I appreciate that this isn't an "I'm sorry you were right all along," but instead a "hey, I was an asshole, but we all have things we need to work on with this situation." This was a really interesting glimpse into where your mind is right now. Thanks for opening up on a topic I don't think any of us were expecting.
Ian (616Entertainment)
2018-05-14 17:37:25 +0000 UTCI never played the DLC (though there's footage of it in the video, LOL).
Colin Moriarty
2018-05-14 17:34:04 +0000 UTCThe ending of Mass Effect 3 is still by far the most disappointed I have ever been by a game. That ending still baffles me. What the hell was going on over there? The “new” ending still wasn’t great, and felt like they were just trying to please the people who didn’t like the ending. Looking forward to watching the video, though! What was actually a great ending was the citadel dlc where you’re hanging out and partying with your crew. That was a fitting end to the series.
Marius Skarsem Pedersen
2018-05-14 17:33:23 +0000 UTCThat was my hangup, too. It seemed forced. Almost like fan fiction or something.
Colin Moriarty
2018-05-14 17:33:06 +0000 UTCThank you! I'm glad you dug the video.
Colin Moriarty
2018-05-14 17:32:38 +0000 UTCIndeed. The line between criticism and control is a fine one.
Colin Moriarty
2018-05-14 17:32:20 +0000 UTCI didn't play the new endings, either. Seemed pointless.
Colin Moriarty
2018-05-14 17:32:03 +0000 UTCThat would have been the preferable choice.
Colin Moriarty
2018-05-14 17:30:14 +0000 UTCI'm with you on changing the ending, and I don't really see this purported inconsistencies as actual inconsistencies. I mean, Bethesda must have been planning to revive the player character in Fallout 3, right? If they had DLC planned? I don't know. And changing the look of Cole doesn't change the fundamental story of inFamous 2.
Brent Lindquist
2018-05-14 17:28:24 +0000 UTCI really dislike Mass Effect 3’s ending, but I agree with your feelings at the time regarding the changed ending that came later. I never played that ending, and I don't know how I could have with the knowledge that it only existed because fans had whined about it.
Brent Lindquist
2018-05-14 17:23:48 +0000 UTCI honestly think this is one of the best videos you have ever made. I may not be objective though as Mass Effect 2 is one of my top 5 favorite games of all time. The series is very special to me and I mostly agree with the positive reviews for Mass Effect 3. I didn't like the ending but Mass Effect 3 may be the best game in the series up to the ending. When I first saw it I was disappointed, but like you I looked back on my memories of the entire series and thought wow what a ride.
strawhatninja
2018-05-14 17:23:23 +0000 UTCOne of the biggest, if not THE biggest issues in gaming is that fans/gamers think that games belong to them, or is somehow their creation. They overstep their bounds and try and insert themselves into the industry when they are merely observers. The end of Mass Effect 3 sucks, but it is what it is, there are countless other games to enjoy.
Michael Ferrari
2018-05-14 17:18:52 +0000 UTCSame exact feelings on ME3, played it once and never returned. Loved the game and felt like it was special but not a good conclusion. Legitimately the only time an ending ruined the entirety of something for me
Marc Elfering
2018-05-14 17:15:13 +0000 UTCThey tried to make a game that had a succinct ending for people that had never played ME1 and ME2 while also making it seem that your decisions mattered. They attempted to add a new layer to the impossible task of making those decisions matter effectively. Ultimately they failed on all fronts. But they should not have changed it. I didn't even play the changed ending after over 200 hrs and multiple playthroughs into the series
Marc Elfering
2018-05-14 17:13:01 +0000 UTCGreat video! Although, I still largely agree with 2012 Colin when it comes to fans asking for a different ending. I think that’s a bit different then asking a studio to keep a character’s design the same — that choice didn’t make sense at all to me. Either way, keep it up! ♥️ -Brett M
Brett Medlock
2018-05-14 17:06:55 +0000 UTCI was one of those people who sank massive hours into 7 different Shepard's in ME1 & ME2. Once i finished the ending of ME3 i thought the game was broken. I loved 99.5% of ME3 but i never ended up playing ME3 again. I am a nerd.
Joey Finelli
2018-05-14 17:06:49 +0000 UTCYears later, I still agree that the ending should NOT have been changed.
Daniel Rivas
2018-05-14 17:06:14 +0000 UTC
