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Sacred Symbols, Episode 5: Ruining PlayStation Trophies

Developers are getting less and less stingy with their games' Trophies, almost to a comical -- and dare we say destructive -- degree. So this week, we discuss the Trophy ecosystem in-depth, and reflect on how Sony can better protect and nurture the ecosystem. But of course, we also get nitty-gritty with the games themselves. Chasm is out, and Chris has played it extensively, so we chat about the newest entrant to the Metroidvania genre. Old video game website The Escapist is returning, but is its apolitical slant too little, too late? Plus, Spider-man and Shadow of the Tomb Raider have gone gold, Quantic Dream lost an important court case, Capcom is making tons of money, and much much more. Get ready for a jam-packed episode, rounded out as always with your questions.

Timestamps:

0:00:17 - Intro.
0:05:45 - What's Chris playing?
0:17:02 - What's Colin playing?
0:18:52 - Old video game website The Escapist returns.
0:36:19 - Spider-man has gone gold.
0:42:23 - Quantic Dream loses important court case.
0:45:53 - Gran Turismo Sport gets microtransactions.
0:50:20 - Guacamelee! 2 gets a release date.
0:52:02 - Shadow of the Tomb Raider has gone gold.
0:53:29 - Capcom releases impressive financial results.
0:54:17 - Ni No Kuni II DLC incoming.
0:54:42 - EA is possibly planning a free-to-play battle royale title.
0:56:04 - Minor game announcements and release date information.
0:58:15 - This week's new releases for PS4, PS Vita, and PSVR.
1:03:45 - Are PlayStation Trophies becoming too easy?
1:11:32 - Will Anthem's story be Mass Effect-like?
1:13:11 - What PS3 games should be remastered?
1:15:55 - What do we think of the Devil May Cry series?
1:20:19 - What are our preferred PS4 themes?
1:21:57 - What are our most-anticipated darkhorse games?
1:24:49 - Should Castlevania: SotN be remade?
1:28:55 - What do we think of the PSP?
1:31:35 - How can Elder Scrolls VI revolutionize the franchise?
1:35:23 - Why are modern video games so long?
1:39:19 - What are our thoughts on Rage 2?
1:41:54 - What's the deal with Sacred Symbols merch?

Sacred Symbols, Episode 5: Ruining PlayStation Trophies

Comments

I didn't really like Until Dawn at all, the writing was just bad...

Kyle Snyder

As far as I remember you only need to do on hard and not crushing... Which in fact is quite easy on new game+ as you retain all upgrades

Tony Colton

Yas.

Colin Moriarty

Strangely, I grinded TLoU online to get the Trophies there, but never beat it on the hardest difficulty. -_-

Colin Moriarty

Yeet Dunkey

Tyson Williams

Another fuckin great episode 😊 you guys really sound like you've been rocking this podcast together for yrs. TLOU was my toughest Plat... Those online trophies were tough and too me months to get. On the theme side I've been rolling with the 20th anniversary theme since it was released and same on my Vita (#vitaisland) and think its a flawless theme

Tony Colton

Thank you!

Colin Moriarty

I really think you two hit your stride in this episode. I very much enjoyed it.

Sorry Colin but I meant there was distortion on the KCC show not sacred symbols ! The sound quality on your shows have always been excellent :-)

Matthew Perry

That sounds great. I'm looking forward to giving it a go.

Colin Moriarty

Thank you, my friend. ...and sorry for butchering your name.

Colin Moriarty

Dead Cells is incredible - I’ve been playing it for a year on PC early access (I am a dork 😔). It’s a Castlevania-style Rogue-lite (run based, but with some progression, so it doesn’t feel like you’re wasting time). I suppose if you mixed Symphony of the Night, with a bit of Dark Souls and a dash of Spelunky, you’ll have a decent concept; but the combat and RPG-style damage types (fire, ice, bleed ect.) make it a joy to play.

Marc Boggio

Thanks for reading my question, Col. Don't worry about the name lol, I did wonder how you would pronounce it :) goes something like cheesh-me-jew. So Peter is just fine lol. Amazing podcast once again. And stop being amazed at how well this does. You truly are a profesional, and one of the most knowledgeable when it comes to Playstation. Keep up the great work, sir.

Petre Cismigiu

Way ahead of you. Been listening to all your content since Beyond to when KF was formed and most of your CLS stuff. I've also been catching up with anything I missed (that I was interested in). There is a lot of content but I could never get enough. I've already been listening to some of your new fireside chats and listening to some old ones from within the patreon app. The patreon podcast player is a little finnicky though. In one occasion the player would randomly pause and would restart the whole episode at times. However, I do love the feature to play things at 1/2 speed to see what y'all sound like when y'all are drunk. But PS is what got me into your content and Sacred Symbols (and the fact I can get it early) is what pushed me to give you the support you rightfully deserve. Keep it up, man :)

Gabriel Garcia

We record the show five feet from one another. LOL. There's no distortion that I'm hearing, or seeing in the waveform. What are you hearing? Is anyone else hearing distortion?

Colin Moriarty

Thanks for joining up! I hope you take the time to check out the other content. More bang for your buck. =)

Colin Moriarty

Can't Chris become a patreon supporter of CLS and then access all the stuff that way , I'd be happy to add an extra dollar to my monthly donation for this ;-) just listened to your podcast with KCC , great show and it was cool you opened up with them on what I'm sure we're hard topics to talk about !! There seemed to be a lot of distortion on the last half an hour or so of the show which was I shame but I'm guessing thats just the problems you have not doing the show all in the same room

Matthew Perry

I've followed you since beyond and this is the only reason I made a patreon. I love the difference you and Chris have and I can't wait to see y'all grow as friends, and to see Chris become more engrained in the PlayStation ecosystem.

Gabriel Garcia

He doesn't read them, I don't think. I'm working on getting him access, but Patreon is kinda rudimentary still with its suite of services, so you can't have like an employee login or something. Anyway, I'll pass along word of yours (and others') accolades.

Colin Moriarty

That's a nice example.

Colin Moriarty

Bring it back, for God's sake, CAPCOM!

Colin Moriarty

That sounds wild. I like permadeath.

Colin Moriarty

Interesting. I'll look into this, but I really am of the assumption that, even then, that's a load of shit. Not that you're lying, but that Activision is. Making games is a top-down affair, and someone has to hold the reins.

Colin Moriarty

Thank you. MTGA.

Colin Moriarty

Thank you! It's important for us to keep the show organic. Anything that's forced isn't gonna work for me.

Colin Moriarty

Thank you!

Colin Moriarty

Thanks for the advice. I'll pass it along. =)

Colin Moriarty

That's a very respectable list of Plats.

Colin Moriarty

Ironically, Goldeneye (as a game) is now owned by Microsoft, but the IP is owned by Sony. So...

Colin Moriarty

Noted! I think it looks interesting, but I'm wary.

Colin Moriarty

Dude, this show keep getting better. Colin, I don't know if Chris reads these comments at all, but let him know we're noticing how much more comfortable he's getting, just these few episodes in. He was good from the start, but he's really flowing freely now. I know your work load is huge right now, but if you're ever considering bringing back the let's play series, having Chris play some of his old favorites like Crash Team Racing would be great. Just an idea! Great episode, guys.

Ian (616Entertainment)

FF XIV Comes to mind that made a huge comeback. I recomend watching ff xiv documentary by Noclip on youtube

On the topic of themes, I would check out the PS2 "Legacy" dashboard theme on PS4. It's pretty surreal turning on your PS4 and having the original boot up sounds from PS2. It's also pretty minimal and clean, so I think it'd be a good one to check out :) Also, bring back Onimusha Capcom.

William

Have given no man's sky another go , playing it on permadeath is definitely a game changer , 20 hours in and the thought of losing that time if I die definitely makes it more intense !!

Matthew Perry

Modern Warfare 3 had Infinity Ward and Sledgehammer Games as co-developers. Sledgehammer was not just a support studio but a full on developer. I think that's one of the most prominent example.

This podcast jsut keep getting better and better. Keep up the good work! Used to hate tuesdays, but not anymore <3

Hot damn it's so good to hear this podcast each week; a podcast where the hosts aren't constantly talking over each other or shouting at us. I appreciate that you guys have fun without the forced goofiness of some shows. Thanks for the great work guys!

Another wicked show guys.

Addiholic

Get a jar or Tupperware and fill it about halfway with apple cider vinegar. Then cover the top with clear plastic wrap and poke a few holes in the wrap. You’ll have a bunch of floating dead gnats within 72 hours.‬

Michael Miller

I have 7 trophies! I wouldn't want to play a game just to get a Platinum. My only easy Platinum is Batman Telltale. The rest is Mafia 3, Vampyr, Until Dawn, Deadpool, Assassins Creed: Origins, and Batman Arkham Knight. So I definitely try lol.

Marcus Brown

I would love a James Bond game if its even anything like Uncharted. Or a GoldenEye remake I would definitely be down for.

Marcus Brown

Vampyr is Great! I even got the platinum but that's just my take.

Marcus Brown

I will relay this message.

Colin Moriarty

That's awesome. Nice picture. =)

Colin Moriarty

So much winning.

Colin Moriarty

Thank you so much!

Colin Moriarty

Good call.

Colin Moriarty

That's super cool. But this is something that should be built into the PSN!

Colin Moriarty

The metagame sure is addictive.

Colin Moriarty

Interesting.

Colin Moriarty

Yeah, we have no time limit in mind. I think 90-120 minutes is a sweet spot.

Colin Moriarty

Thank you for your kind words and support!

Colin Moriarty

Get out there, slacker.

Colin Moriarty

MTGA.

Colin Moriarty

To get rid of gnats: 1. Get a small jar 2. Put apple cider vinegar in it. 3. Put a funnel on top of the jar that doesn’t dip into the vinegar. 4. Wrap the seam of the jar and funnel in tape (packing or duct work best). 5. Sit that baby on the counter.

Kyle

Thanks for answering my question. I didn’t even know there was a Mega Man boss named Hard Man until I listened to you’re podcast with Dagan. I downloaded the first legacy collection but haven’t got to play it much because Octopath came out.

Brandon Hardman

MTGA

Man am I loving all your content recently. Not that I didn't before, but in the last month I got married and then left for a two week road trip so I hadn't been able to keep up with your content for a bit. Long winded way of saying you're killling it dude. Keep up the great work! Love Sacred Symbols

A.G.Rowe

RE Chris's question about Devil May Cry and Bayonetta - both were created by Hideki Kamiya. Kamiya was director on both the original DMC and Bayonetta 1. As you can imagine, They share very similar DNA.

Phil Crone

You guys spoke about trophies, and the rarity being worth different values and such - check out True Trophies (and True Achievements) which gives trophies a multiplier ratio based on how many people have the trophy. For instance Witcher 3 platinum has a TrueTrophy ratio of 2.45, and Walking Dead is 1.09 so the "score" of each platinum is different. You then get an overall TT Score.

Stephen Crane

I love trophies and achievements. That’s all.

Zack E

I come from PC background originally and I highly stand with that a stable frame-rate is more important. I rather play a game in solid 30fps rather than varied frame-rate between 40-60fps as the dips interrupts gameplay for me, it makes it feel laggy. So with God of War, the performance mode wasn't a improvement at all for my experience.

Philip Andersen

I love the long format. No rush, natural conversation.

Michael Renner

you also get 20% special editions and game sales too. mine expires next year. ill be going all digital after that ends for me. i accumulated about $280 worth of points from games, pre-order bonuses.

Hose A Contra Razz

I bought the Best Buy gamer's club pass thing, and it rules. There's no time limit from what I can tell on when you get the discount, so you get 20% off pre-orders and old games just the same. I just got 20% off No Man's Sky for instance. Plus you get bonus rewards I guess? It says if I pre-order Madden I get a $10 certificate or something on top of the 20% off. I highly recommend it.

Michael Ferrari

Yes :) One of the best podcast on internet! Thanks guys ;)

Saulius Vekteris

Perfect timing I was right about to mow my lawn and now I have something to listen to

TheBufferPiece

Yayyyyy! It's Tuesday

Marcus Brown


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