Sacred Symbols, Episode 189: Safehaven

I would if I still had them :/ Might have some others though, I’ll DM you!

DB Cooper

I'd like to play P3, but will likely only do so when it (inevitably) comes to PS4.

Colin Moriarty

Ahoy Colin. This will seem off topic but I know you're on or wrapping up a playthrough of persona 4 golden. Will you be playing Persona 3 next? With the rumors of Atlus getting ready to release persona 4 golden in the midnight collection that was advertised on thier site and the persona 3 remaster that will contain elements from both FES and Portable. As one of my all time favs I can't wait for it to drop. Just wish they would make a remake since they made high res 3d models of environments and characters from 3 already from the dancing games.

masemenos

That could be cool. A lot for Sony to moderate, though.

Colin Moriarty

We pay $60/$70 USD in the US, and I think that's too little for a $200 million open world game, for instance. What you guys pay overseas is obviously relative to your experience.

Colin Moriarty

It's more fun not to prepare.

Colin Moriarty

Yeah, I just don't think that stuff was either accurate nor useful. I'm talking about a real suite of tools.

Colin Moriarty

Leak them to me. =)

Colin Moriarty

In response to the boys talking about reviews on the PS Store. Would an easy solution to this be dictation (speech to text)? The Dualsense has a built-in mic, and could easily be used to type or even record the voice of the persons review. Maybe make recordings 30 or 60 seconds in length, or for written reviews no more than X words or characters.

Jamie DeCunha

Colin, just to clarify, when you say "we should be paying more for games" do you mean in comparison to sub services like Gamepass or in comparison to the £60/£70 RRP on new titles, as an increase in that amount seems crazy to me and will push gaming out of the reach of lots of people price wise.

Mark Whittington

In reference to the last question submitted: Colin, can you maybe give your fellow podcasters a week or so to ponder these complex questions? They’re not ready and coming off unprepared and inept in their analysis…are you doing this just to make yourself look good? Where’s the love, kindness and support? (; I agree with your assessment, I also think Gamepass will advance just how big business has pushed out the “mom & pop” stores—offer consumers, initially, unbelievable value while driving out the competition; once they’re the only game in town, they’ll dictate the market. Sure they’ll put COD on Switch and PS, but these will be gimped versions, be it technical or with content. It’s how they’ll get those customers over to their ecosystem.

Kid-Organic

The PS4 store front had the ability to like and give a star rating to games, which would display on the game’s page. It was a little bare bone but I still used it when browsing games. Not sure why they decided to leave it out with the ps5.

Samuel Ashley

I remember working at the production company that had the film rights to Heavenly Sword and Castlevania (same company did Resident Evil, Monster Hunter and others). I got to read the scripts while there and boy they were pretty bad. Glad those never got made.

DB Cooper

We shall see. =)

Colin Moriarty

I did, and spoke to him privately. And then went and bought the game for $60.

Colin Moriarty

Can't stop talking about Kings Field.

Colin Moriarty

Mustard is the devil.

Colin Moriarty

Indeed.

Colin Moriarty

We will see what they can do with their new toys.

Colin Moriarty

Just getting around to this episode, have to say I echo Dustin’s thoughts on uncharted 4 word for word. Been down on it for years, the only uncharted game I’ve only played through once. Thought I’d give it another try with the recent upgrade & loved every minute of it. Made me realise how much I love (And miss) these characters. Fingers crossed project spartan has the entire back catalogue in 60fps. Onto the lost legacy 😬

Lewis Priday

Have y'all seen the video Mr Hoeg did on the Horizon Forbidden West pricing? This is something I think definitely needs to be addressed. I'm no longer going to purchase Horizon after watching his video. Can't support that shit, just can't. I'll snag it when it's on sale next year maybe.

jacob custard

Look at you guys, talking about Kings Field again. One of my favorite series on Playstation. While listening to the free feed I made a joke about not signing up for the Patreon until someone talked about Kings Field. Colin did twice in one show so I signed up the same night. Now you done did it again. Warms this old man's heart. Haha

Player X

Colin, you don’t fuck with mustard?!! Make no mistake: there’s other variations to the yellow variety that I think are worth exploring. And just as your political and social media views have evolved, so too, may your tastebuds. https://www.masterclass.com/articles/a-culinary-guide-to-mustard-types-and-how-to-use-each-mustard-variety#11-different-types-of-mustard-and-how-to-use-each-mustard-variety

Kid-Organic

Jade Raymond talking about her game seriously just sounded like Dreams, LBP, ModNation Racers, Minecraft, ect... PlayStation is currently the undisputed king in the narrative action adventure genre... But all this talk of Sony service games the last couple of weeks is really giving me "Ubisoft throwing shit at the wall" vibes.

Tonys_Always_Write

I feel like the return on investment for mircosoft is an angle I am not hearing much about. I feel mircosofts main board was like "sure, here is some cash" then later "wait your going to cut the money coming in from that purchase by half?" It's not just mircosofts board that loses on that deal but people who invest in mircosoft overall. Revenue generations matters to large corporations.

Mike

Unfortunately, it sounds like it's going to be a pass for me.

Colin Moriarty

For the Sifu section… Just coming off of me playing Sekiro for the first time and getting the Platinum, Sifu has a lot of correlation like Dustin mentions. I was barely able to beat the second boss at age 77. Going into the third level with no ability to come back sucks. I’ll have to “git gud” and beat that 2nd boss in my 20s. I’m loving Sifu so far. I’m looking forward to more content with that game.

Samuel Zamora

It's ridiculous, really.

Colin Moriarty

Tragic Kingdom.

Colin Moriarty

As another who studied American history as their major, I also grappled with longitude and latitudes placement for a time way longer than I should have.

Samuel Zamora

You and Dustin have been really big fans of Gwen Stefani lately, no doubt :P EDIT: lmaooo I wrote this comment to poke fun at you guys for saying “no doubt” so much but then you actually mentioned the band later on so I came back to clarify ;P

Josh Lucas

For sure. What I'm trying to get to the bottom of is the 'why'. There has to be more to what they're choosing to censor, and why, and in typical Sony fashion, they don't communicate.

Colin Moriarty

I've never acknowledged that? I feel like I must've.

Colin Moriarty

A shame.

Colin Moriarty

Here's hoping we get what we want.

Colin Moriarty

RE: The Sims censorship, I think there's a broader discussion brewing with the recent announcement that Martha is Dead will be censored exclusively on PlayStation platforms. I know you've talked about PS's weird and seemingly puritanical censorship before, but I hope we can get your takes on the recent development in next week's episode.

Bobby

I’ve been waiting 12 years for you to acknowledge your name is the same as the bad guy in Sherlock Holmes.

Robert Graham

I’m from Newcastle and support Newcastle united. We’ve just been taken over by the Saudi PIF and about 98% of fans supported it. I have a season ticket and want to see NUFC win trophies but at the same time I have to accept that we’re owned by an evil entity. People were literally dancing in the streets when they bought the club because of how bad things have been recently. Fans were scrutinised but as you said, it’s up to the people in control to stop these deals from happening. I really recommend reading about the purchase and why Saudi Arabia did it, it’s interesting and is sadly a sign of what’s to come over the next decade or two.

Dan Morgan

Put me in that single player/story GTA category. I don’t play multiplayer/online and I loved GTA’s story. I think gamepass has the potential to ruin games for me. I do not like streaming. I don’t stream music (Bandcamp or vinyl for me). I canceled all of my tv subs except for netflix. I have my PS5 and buy games on it. This simplicity has been very freeing.

Mitchell Lundsberg

They seem to fit better with a mechanical shooter than a single-player-centric shooter.

Colin Moriarty

I’m surprised you went for killzone rather than Resistance for a Bungi FPS

Hose A Contra Razz

Nice idea. Maybe in the coming weeks!

Colin Moriarty

It's crazy that I'm at the point, now, where I wish Lucas didn't sell.

Colin Moriarty

It was the first PS3 game I liked.

Colin Moriarty

I've never paid a source, no. I'm not sure that would be ethical. There are many reasons people leak!

Colin Moriarty

We need another white flag all hands on deck Sacred Symbol+ episode with the DDU boys. Discuss the goods and bads of Game Pass. They have had number of great interviews with game pass developers

Raymond Stuart

I know I would be living in a dream world, but imagine a world where any company could make a Star Wars movie or TV Show. How great could the possibilities be without Disney shoving their ceaseless nonsense down our throats?

Michael

Serious question... why do game developers leak their own games? Do you (or other journos) pay your sources for information? Seems like it's not good for their company to leak game details so why act against your own company?

Drewbuntu

I actually loved Heavenly Sword back in the day. The story with Andy Serkis as the main antagonist was really epic at the time. I even liked the gimmicky part where you guided your arrows in slow motion using the six-axis controller. Now that Ninja Theory is under the Microsoft umbrella you’re right that we will probably never see it again, which is a real shame.

Jake H.

I'll never play it, but I'm sure others will get to it now that the second season is incoming. =)

Colin Moriarty

We'll see how it all goes with Spartacus.

Colin Moriarty

Robotic owls.

Colin Moriarty

Thank you!

Colin Moriarty

You can do whatever you'd like!

Colin Moriarty

Saudi Arabia acquired 5% of a company. That's not what we're talking about.

Colin Moriarty

Could be. I think they'd play it safe either way. Regardless of the literal legality of the acquisition, people nonetheless look at them as a well-financed bully.

Colin Moriarty

Do not criticize the show.

Colin Moriarty

I totally disagree, and I think you're wrong. I'm using it as a newsfeed, and it's great. Gives me all the information I need, pertinent links, etc. There's no reason for me to click on my @s or Tweet things, so I don't.

Colin Moriarty

I definitely recommend the first season of The Wolf Among Us! It really has an amazing story. One of my favorite games of all times.

D'Ante Almo

The conversation you guys had at the end was very depressing and why I have so angry with Sony the last few months. I wish they would just do what Nintendo does. Anyway I echo your sentiments exactly. Once gaming gets there I will just walk away or retro game lol

Big titty drinker

Wolf S1 isn’t even my fave Telltale game but it’s def worth playing. Get on that Chris and Dustin. Col…what robot animal do you think Horizon should have?

NeO JD

👎🏼

NeO JD

The energy in this episode was through the roof 🙂 great show guys

Wyvborn

Mustard is better than ketchup.

Context Should Matter

May I ask, to submit comments that we would possibly want read on the show next week, would we be able to talk freely here, or should I keep my comment to myself until the thread? Thanks for the time it takes to read our messages! Love you guys.

So Xbox can’t buy a Japanese gaming company but Saudi Arabia can? What a bunch of horsehit.. Hoeg himself said this could absolutely happen, hopefully this “analyst” isn’t against moving..

Joaquin Branche

And it’ll more likely be $70 with no free upgrade.

Brandon Soto

"GTA V, PS5. Eh?" "GENIUS! LET'S DO IT!"

Max Stahl

I'm trying to figure out destiny too since I haven't played for years. Kinda half heartily at this point so maybe I'll just wait til after February. My theory with MS is that they miscalculated how much scrutiny the ABK purchase would receive from congress. They had to backtrack this week after this heat and also Sony being very explicit in multiplat for destiny. I could give a fuck about COD but glad to have clarity (for now!) for all my sacred brothers and sisters that enjoy it.

Dang

Can we get a spoiler discussion on Pokemon Arceus with Dustin, Matty and Chris? Also, this is a minor criticism, but I think you guys tend to complain about the toxic internet fanboys a bit too much on the show. These people are not worth paying attention to, and I don't personally care to hear their moronic takes. At some point, you gotta just get off Twitter or whatever if the idiots are really bothersome. The Dukes occasionally jump into this territory too. That said, I'm not great at this either and every once and a while I get sucked back into Reddit (never had Twitter thankfully). Anyway, I honestly really enjoy all of the episodes.

Colin, we’ve all been there, but you gotta abstain from partaking in the twitter. Follow the recovery program, get your chip man. I’ve been 2 years sober. There’s no such thing as a recreational twitter user, it’s like being addicted to huffing dog shit. We believe in you man

Tick Dickler

LOL.

Colin Moriarty

Yeah, that would bum me out. I'd want to start at the beginning. If I can't do that, then I'm honestly not interested.

Colin Moriarty

Curious.

Colin Moriarty

I think some will.

Colin Moriarty

That gets a big whatever from me.

Colin Moriarty

Was it? I don't recall that at all.

Colin Moriarty

He's right. =)

Colin Moriarty

No, please.

Colin Moriarty

I will certainly go back.

Colin Moriarty

I could only imagine how horrifying it would be now.

Colin Moriarty

Write in next week!

Colin Moriarty

He has a critical mass of Balan.

Colin Moriarty

=)

Colin Moriarty

“He might be a whore honestly” 🤣🤣😂😂

Gabriel

Colin, I echo Chris’ sentiment. You’d prolly like Destiny a lot, but I also think there’s awesome singleplayer content you can’t even play because of the Content Vault (the Red War, Forsaken, and some Year 1 campaigns just gone). I could see that driving you through a wall

Stephen Forgione

The sims situation is weird. The game has already received an 18+ rating in Russia because it contains homosexual relationships. All because of a law passed in 2013 that prohibits LGBT propaganda among minors. So no one forbids them to release this add-on.

Bethesda PS5 games are coming folks. Xbox fanboys, better start writing your apologies now.

Brandon Soto

To be fair, longitude and latitude are classic (and common) points of confusion, because while a longitudinal *line* runs North/South, the value it specifies is the positional information East-to-West. Confuses me too. Whatever, man.

James McGivern

Heads up, if I recall correctly, "2023" was given as the release window for SpiderMan-2 (end of reveal trailer showing Venom and such). So we do have one game in the first-party lined up scheduled for that year, but that doesn't downplay the greater point: we're pretty in the dark. I think they'll have a preview press conference of sorts like Colin alluded to.

NotSkyWalker

Lmao Chris called Mario a deformed imp I'm dead 😂😂😂

lazer_josh

Hey yall Jag wire That is all

lazer_josh

Dustin’s on point - Uncharted 4 is goated

GameSimp

so glad you brought up naughty dog’s pre-production of jak 4 Colin, thought of it as soon as this live-action talk broke! ND tried it, saw it was nightmare fuel, and rightfully canned it.

Jacob

Hey Colin! There actually IS a low budget Heavenly Sword Movie. Seen it, it’s fine but the game’s narrative is better. Great episode.

Robbie Agnew

Dustin is having a hard time at night because he bought so many versions of Balan Wonderland that he invited cursed items into his home. It’s like in Silent Hill 4 when you pick up the cursed doll and your apartment starts getting more poltergeists in it then normal. On the real though, I hope he feels better and takes some cbd before bed.

Kenneth Oms

Hells ya

Jackie Rheu