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Sacred Symbols+, Episode 164: The China Syndrome

Communist-controlled China is a threat to free expression and peaceful commerce, but we here in the west are nonetheless more-than-happy to do business with them anyway. And that complicity comes at a cost, whether we want to admit it or not. To get into the nitty-gritty of just what it means to do business with, in, and for China, I (Colin!) invited Sale Lilly to the show. Sale is a Senior Policy Analyst at the world-famous RAND Corporation. A Mandarin-speaking ex-US Naval officer, educated at Oxford and specializing in China, Sale has wonderful insight into just what's going on on the other side of the Pacific. How did China come to be the totalitarian force it now is? How does economics factor into that? And -- perhaps most important, for our podcast -- how does all of this intersect with entertainment and gaming? If you're not a fan of politics and economics, this episode of + is decidedly not for you. Consider yourself fairly warned.

Sacred Symbols+, Episode 164: The China Syndrome

Comments

I see you Sale... fishing for a PS5 from Colin Claus this year! (jk... great talk)

Kevin Cooper

Thanks. =)

Colin Moriarty

Wasn’t sure what to expect with this one, but it turned out enjoyable. 👍🏼

NeO JD

Thanks. More coming!

Colin Moriarty

This is so illuminating. Excellent episode. Loved it. Thank you and more please.

ur ppnballs

Yeah, good idea. =)

Colin Moriarty

I could listen to this guy for 10 hrs. I was wondering while doing an interview like this, could you ask for some suggestions on reading material on the subject?

Nathan Densley

Thanks!

Colin Moriarty

This felt like a harken back to the original CLS/Fireside Chats, and I loved it. Fantastic episode, keep it up!

James Baker

LOL. =)

Colin Moriarty

Thanks for listening!

Colin Moriarty

This was incredible! Thank you so much for this content. So deep and thoughtful, and Sale was so incredibly knowledgeable.

Riley Monson

How dare Sale only own up to a ps3 and call himself a gamer. May the gamer gods smite this false prophet for such abhorrent heresy! But for real that was a really interesting look into how the Chinese perspective could be analyzed from both a nefarious standpoint and one where they are just trying to diversify their money away from their more corrupt parents. A ton of insight here and lots to think about.

Adam

Thank you.

Colin Moriarty

There is no other outlet doing this, which is why I'm so glad we are!

Colin Moriarty

I genuinely can’t name a single other outlet that touches on these issues, as it pertains to gaming specifically. Great work as always, Colin! With content like this, you will forever have my support.

Bradley McDermott

Amazing work. Great listen

Bob Spiers

Glad to hear it.

Colin Moriarty

Thanks!

Colin Moriarty

Thank you.

Colin Moriarty

It will next week.

Colin Moriarty

I hope this goes free, this is true gaming journalism.

Chris Dell

Best episode yet! This episode alone is the reason everyone should sub!

Troy Leonard

damn, this was incredible

Dimitreus Newell

Great job. I learned a lot in this episode. I think it is important for everyone to give it a listen.

redwingcody

Thank you! <3

Colin Moriarty

Glad you learned something!

Colin Moriarty

It's on the list.

Colin Moriarty

Good. =)

Colin Moriarty

Thank you very much. <3

Colin Moriarty

Thank you. He'll be back!

Colin Moriarty

Thank you!

Colin Moriarty

Well done Colin. You are doing amazing!

Andrew

Great episode and as someone who didn’t know all that much about China, it’s fascinating hearing how much impact they’ve had on the media we consume.

RK128

Colin, please play CyberPunk2077 the setting and world is literally a “what if the USA as we know it falls and no longer exists”. Would love to get a spoiler cast for it. The lore in that game is amazing. Amazing episode as always.

Jeff Caseres

I'm gonna sound so fucking smart at work after this lol

PuppiesOnParade

I don’t comment on a lot of post on here. But this is seriously amazing content and LSM should feel tremendously proud of the impact conversations like this can have. I deeply wish we had more companies willing to have these conversations for their audiences. Tremendous work.

Triston Palacios

Another just absolute banger of an apple episode. I loved hearing Sale’s insight and I would really like more episodes like this one. These recent + episodes are well worth the premium!

Christopher Smith

Great episode. Not that you don’t already deserve it but this one makes me think of upping my Patron amount.

TL

Thank you for your support.

Colin Moriarty

Holy shit that man's is smart my brain is fried lol.. good podcast... thank yall

drivebyjoe

Agreed!

Colin Moriarty

That could be fun... but the Middle East isn't his area of expertise.

Colin Moriarty

Hes awesome

There’s No I in LLC

You know you gotta have sale come back and talk about 3 days in fallujah. So my guess is the new rpg isabout the fall of the US and the aftermath based on that snippet Colin mentioned near the end. So we got a white chick and a black guy as the protagonists too. It's all coming together! Can't wait to go on r/gameleaks with my exclusive!

Dang

Thank you so much.

Colin Moriarty

Thank you!

Colin Moriarty

If he's down for it, I'd love to have him back.

Colin Moriarty

With respect to all of the great guests you've had on, this is by the far most informative episode of Sacred Symbols plus to date. Love it!

Harley K

Holy hell, what a fantastic and absolutely fascinating conversation this was. Amazing work all!

Brian Borlaug

Best interview yet. Glad you're having him back

Jake Z

I'm doing my best to raise as much awareness as I can.

Colin Moriarty

this is up there with my all-time favorite entries. the only way to combat this is I think by spreading awareness to the gaming public and populace at large, and then we'll see.

Chris

I hope you enjoy!

Colin Moriarty

Hope it meets your expectations.

Colin Moriarty

Thanks. <3

Colin Moriarty

Thank you!

Colin Moriarty

The Representative of Gaming walks to the podium.

Colin Moriarty

*Stands up* “I” will be the gaming representative! 😂

Taylor Laduron

Awesome guest

Nick La Creta

Oh, wow! Now, this is a very interesting and timely guest to have on the show!! You won't see this on other Video game show for sure. Love all the different guests, it's so interesting!

Marius Skarsem Pedersen

Omg this is going to be so good …

dharmapolice

Very excited about this one.

Tim J Weckwerth


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