Sacred Symbols+, Episode 195: PSVR2, PS5 Pro, 8K/120, and PlayStation 6?!
Added 2022-06-04 16:01:02 +0000 UTCHello! As always, please welcome Last Stand's tech analyst, Tom from Moore's Law Is Dead, to our show. Tom returns to talk technology, of course, and with recent news percolating from within and outside of the PlayStation ecosystem, we actually have quite a bit to go over. We start with PlayStation VR2, which we know you all saw on the State of Play a couple of days ago, but which we speak about without such foreknowledge. We're excited about what it can be and how much it may cost. But will the games be there? We then get into PlayStation 5 Pro, which will be coming in 2023 or 2024, and its amazing capabilities, including the possibility of games running at 4K and 120 frames. But what about 8K?! For that, we need to consider another console entirely, a hypothetical one, and well... we do. What do the early tea leaves tell us about PlayStation 6? Does a fast-moving tech industry demand a quicker turn-around? Seems there's less time keeping us between the next console then you might think.
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I second this. Especially because there are aspects of the PS5's GPU that are superior to the Series X (pixel throughput/filtrate) and others (TFLOPs and texture fill rate) that aren't. It'd be cool to see him break it down and propperly explain why TFLOPs aren't the be all and end all for GPU 'power'
Mark ?️
2022-06-12 11:03:30 +0000 UTCThat could be fun! Will keep this idea in mind.
Colin Moriarty
2022-06-10 03:35:25 +0000 UTCInteresting discussion, never really considered the cost of the pro models getting cheaper than the base. I would like to suggest an SS+ episode with Tom explaining the terms and lingo of console tech, like what's a teraflop? Something like a 'Fundamentals of Console Tech' or 'Console Tech 101'. Would help people who are not familiar with these terms to understand Tom when he goes full nerd.
Sam Lee
2022-06-09 14:21:34 +0000 UTCI don't think they like us.
Colin Moriarty
2022-06-08 16:40:14 +0000 UTCWe shall see. =)
Colin Moriarty
2022-06-08 16:40:07 +0000 UTCThank you for your kind words and support.
Colin Moriarty
2022-06-08 16:39:56 +0000 UTC=D
Colin Moriarty
2022-06-08 16:39:45 +0000 UTCVery interesting and informative episode! personally never had much interest in VR but it seems PSVR2 is shaping up to be something truly special. Btw that comment about SS+ being lazy is the biggest load of bollocks I've ever heard. I'm only on the $1 tier at the moment and the amount of quality content I receive is an absolute steal. Keep up the great work!
Jack
2022-06-08 13:49:40 +0000 UTCYou dumb bastard... It's not a Schooner, it's a sailboat! ^_^
Kevin Cooper
2022-06-08 13:21:34 +0000 UTCDigital Foundry seem to have a completely different opinion on if we will get or even need pro consoles this gen. I'd love for you to have one of them on for tech talk too to get a different take on this issue.
Mark Whittington
2022-06-08 07:49:15 +0000 UTCTom lost me when he said "get the PS6 out in 2024/2025". I don't want consoles to turn into Iphones with new ones coming out every single year. I get his point regarding Pro consoles, I still don't like mid-gen refreshes or want one but I get it.
TheMuff1nMon
2022-06-07 20:17:02 +0000 UTCI can certainly look into doing that.
Colin Moriarty
2022-06-07 16:59:56 +0000 UTCThe comment SS+ is lazy is stupid. It's not. You ask good questions and have an interesting discussion every time. That said, I think it would be cool if maybe more of an increased frequency, we can have these analysts on with the floor opened to us to ask some questions. Been a while.
Dave Ramos
2022-06-07 16:54:00 +0000 UTCGet him on Discord, and I'm sure he'll regale you.
Colin Moriarty
2022-06-07 16:18:09 +0000 UTCDustin, can we get your top 3 Thrice albums? I love that band and find the answers to that question vary wildly from person to person.
VirtualBalboa
2022-06-07 16:13:10 +0000 UTCThank you!
Colin Moriarty
2022-06-07 16:00:36 +0000 UTCThese episodes are fucking great
Brian
2022-06-06 18:51:47 +0000 UTCGlad to hear it. <3
Colin Moriarty
2022-06-06 16:16:09 +0000 UTCThank you for your kind words!
Colin Moriarty
2022-06-06 16:16:05 +0000 UTCS rank episode. Love the nerdy tech talk.
Kenneth Koepnick
2022-06-06 14:32:55 +0000 UTCHaving Tom on is so fucking good. Great episode.
Clay Layne
2022-06-06 12:47:28 +0000 UTCGreat conversation as usual ! On your comment Colin about people still not being able to find a PS5, two months ago I bought a series X in Game ( In Birmingham UK) and got talking to the manger of the store. He then opened the door to his storage room to show me three full pallets of PS5 and series X.
Gavin Newland
2022-06-06 11:22:54 +0000 UTCThank you! That's very kind.
Colin Moriarty
2022-06-05 18:50:45 +0000 UTCI think he was saying that they went to a whole new setup with Pro that they won't have to do with this one.
Colin Moriarty
2022-06-05 18:50:40 +0000 UTCGreat discussion. I’m a bit confused about PS4 pro costing less than base PS4 to manufacture. Why wouldn’t it be cheaper in that case?
Rich Price
2022-06-05 18:15:21 +0000 UTCSo glad I joined this Pateron. Consistent content that is enjoyable. Loving it so far! Thanks Colin and the entire crew!
Kevin Padua
2022-06-05 18:05:33 +0000 UTCIt's really no different than PS4-to-PS4 Pro, though. There will actually be a greater distance here, in fact.
Colin Moriarty
2022-06-05 17:41:41 +0000 UTCI know current gen will get refreshes in slim and pro models, but can we get devs using the full capabilities of it first. I understand a lot might still be remote and dealing with issues. But it's almost year 2 and most games aren't utilizing most tech in those systems.
Tao
2022-06-05 10:31:15 +0000 UTCVery happy to do it. Thank you for your support.
Colin Moriarty
2022-06-04 22:17:16 +0000 UTCThank you!
Colin Moriarty
2022-06-04 22:17:09 +0000 UTCI think so, yes.
Colin Moriarty
2022-06-04 22:17:05 +0000 UTCSo is Moore Law really dead? 🤔
Brandon Soto
2022-06-04 21:29:32 +0000 UTCAlways happy to see Tom on the show! You guys mesh so well together. Would love to see him join on a future spoilercast!
Heretic The Intergalactic Prophet
2022-06-04 18:48:42 +0000 UTCColin and Crew, Thank you for having such a consistent schedule/output. Some weeks are harder than others and your reliability helps a lot of people get through the grind! ♥️ Edit: I commented this before I realized someone called you lazy. Definitely not!
Bambi_Cobblestone
2022-06-04 16:28:48 +0000 UTC
