Sacred Symbols+, Episode 207 | Gamergrate
Added 2022-07-16 16:00:06 +0000 UTCFor some people, politics and video games go together like peanut butter and poop. But -- irrespective of the naysaying -- the two are natural bedfellows, as politics is with any entertainment medium or artform. To explore the positive and negative intersections of these two seemingly-disparate but deeply-interconnected worlds, I invited podcaster, social commentator, and Gamer (with a capital G) Noam Blum (also known as neontaster) to +. Together, we delve into the culture, politics, and social ramifications of gaming, touch on the origins of Gamergate (and Elevatorgate!), discuss Anita Sarkeesian, Jonathan McIntosh, Zoe Quinn, and others, consider the inevitability of a 'gaming president,' dissect the cliquishness of the very media overseeing its own destruction, the problems of translations and localizations, and a lot more. No politics in gaming? Not 'round these parts.
Comments
"Clickish-ness" is a polite way of saying people were harassed I suppose
joefray_
2022-07-27 17:10:43 +0000 UTCI think we will next week.
Colin Moriarty
2022-07-22 16:47:09 +0000 UTCWhat a Fantastic episode, will you guys make this episode available for the public? I think everyone needs to hear this conversation. Noam nailed everything I felt about the gaming sphere since the beginning of the Trump era. Great episode guys!
Dragonpaul22
2022-07-22 15:51:46 +0000 UTCMuch appreciated. We exist!
Colin Moriarty
2022-07-21 16:58:17 +0000 UTCThanks!
Colin Moriarty
2022-07-21 16:58:08 +0000 UTCThank you!
Colin Moriarty
2022-07-21 16:58:06 +0000 UTCMan what a freaking awesome episode. I'm so happy I'm part of this community. Every time I'm struggling with the current world I listen to these podcast and remember that there are still sane, rational people out there ๐
James Buck
2022-07-20 23:31:41 +0000 UTCFinally got to this. A+ episode.
Andrew Christensen
2022-07-20 18:37:48 +0000 UTCOne of my favorite episodes. Keep kicking ass
DeathByClams
2022-07-20 18:00:31 +0000 UTCMe too!
Colin Moriarty
2022-07-20 16:35:08 +0000 UTCAwesome getting to hear Neontaster on here. Looking forward to his inevitable return!
MrMilk
2022-07-20 14:40:25 +0000 UTCNo doubt there's a lack of diverse opinions!
Colin Moriarty
2022-07-19 18:11:56 +0000 UTCVery good episode! And a fair and balanced analysis of Gamergate and it's consequences. Would like to have heard Noah give some examples of when he thinks "politics in games" are preachy or hamfisted. Because although I see political messaging in a lot of games, I hardly ever feel talked down to. I agree with the lack of diverse opinions in the games industry as a whole though.
Dennis
2022-07-19 14:28:26 +0000 UTCIt's great. Its focus is on 4Chan, but it really covers both sides of the political spectrum and mulls on our endless attempts to escape from consumer culture, one generation after the next. How this led us into hyper specific (and sometimes very dark & dreary) internet hangouts, to the 2016 election, and what it's doing to us now. Did it on audiobook and bought a copy to give away.
MJ SKA BOI
2022-07-19 00:02:38 +0000 UTCThank you.
Colin Moriarty
2022-07-18 16:41:04 +0000 UTCI've not heard of that book, I'll need to look into it.
Colin Moriarty
2022-07-18 16:41:01 +0000 UTCHe'll be back, should he want to return!
Colin Moriarty
2022-07-18 16:40:42 +0000 UTCThank you!
Colin Moriarty
2022-07-18 16:40:36 +0000 UTCThere will no doubt be a next time.
Colin Moriarty
2022-07-18 16:40:30 +0000 UTCThank you.
Colin Moriarty
2022-07-18 16:40:14 +0000 UTCThanks!
Colin Moriarty
2022-07-18 16:40:10 +0000 UTCThank you.
Colin Moriarty
2022-07-18 16:40:06 +0000 UTCInteresting. I'll seek him out.
Colin Moriarty
2022-07-18 16:40:03 +0000 UTCThank you.
Colin Moriarty
2022-07-18 16:39:54 +0000 UTCAgreed.
Colin Moriarty
2022-07-18 16:39:50 +0000 UTCYou're very welcome.
Colin Moriarty
2022-07-18 16:39:46 +0000 UTCThank you.
Colin Moriarty
2022-07-18 16:39:41 +0000 UTCGood!
Colin Moriarty
2022-07-18 16:39:37 +0000 UTCLOL.
Colin Moriarty
2022-07-18 16:39:34 +0000 UTCIndeed!
Colin Moriarty
2022-07-18 16:39:32 +0000 UTCEnjoy.
Colin Moriarty
2022-07-18 16:39:27 +0000 UTCYes. =)
Colin Moriarty
2022-07-18 16:39:24 +0000 UTCGlad to surprise!
Colin Moriarty
2022-07-18 16:39:20 +0000 UTCWait no longer.
Colin Moriarty
2022-07-18 16:39:07 +0000 UTCnever heard of Gamergate (was busy finding myself lol) and you guys go beyond that. Banger episode!
gnawtyFOX
2022-07-18 15:37:05 +0000 UTCAs a critic of gamergate, the issue people have with it is not about the gaming community or gamers. It is about those Trolls on 4Chan and people like Milo and white supremacist Richard Spencer who gained infamy through 4Chan's hard rightward swing in the lead-up to 2016 and 4Chan's capitalization of Gamergate. There's a fantastic book about 4Chan's evolution and the extremism that leaks out of the nihilism and loneliness of anonymous shitposters, titled "It Came From Something Awful" written by Dale Beran. Can't recommend the book enough. As a period in time, Gamergate is absolutely responsible for a lot of bad shit that comes out of 4Chan (such as mass shootings committed "for the lulz") because Gamergate was the moment that lonely, angry, anonymous meme makers realized they could touch the outside world through their screens.
MJ SKA BOI
2022-07-18 14:10:00 +0000 UTCOne of my top 10 episodes, can you have him on all the time?
Douglas Coffin
2022-07-18 14:04:45 +0000 UTCThis was a really good episode. As someone who after the gamergate stuff followed a few of its advocates and heard their take on it, I was surprised to see it so well explained and represented.
Leeor Vardi
2022-07-18 05:43:07 +0000 UTCTotally agree on Daily Wire. I like some of the personalities , but when I tune in to the Ben Shapiro show for example, I feel like I get high blood pressure from the non stop red meat. Really enjoy some of the less political stuff they do, like the recent Town Hall. Teetering on the edge of subscribing just for Jordan Peterson. Also, keep this guy in the Rolodex for next time the gaming industry puts Israel in their crosshairs.
Kickstand
2022-07-18 02:21:27 +0000 UTCGreat episode!
Jason K
2022-07-17 23:35:54 +0000 UTCSolid episode.
Shane Pryor
2022-07-17 23:21:21 +0000 UTCAmazing episode. Thoroughly enjoyed it
Jeff in NOLA
2022-07-17 22:40:25 +0000 UTCSpeaking of Daily Wire, a really cool guest would be Andrew Klavan. He's an older guy in the political sphere but also surprisingly a gamer. He has both a Ghost of Tsushima and The Last of Us Part 2 review on his channel. A bit more of a political take on both games but still cool nonetheless. Plus the story of how he was ousted by Hollywood for his political views and found success elsewhere is also interesting.
Dave Ramos
2022-07-17 16:07:19 +0000 UTCFantastic listen.
Greg Mocha
2022-07-17 13:39:06 +0000 UTCThank you for talking about localization and translation being a bigger problem in gaming and anime. Especially towards Japanese content and trying to โfixโ it. This needs more attention and push back
PairOfShuse
2022-07-17 12:35:03 +0000 UTCI canโt wait to give this a listen. Two of my passions - politics and gaming! Thank you, Colin.
Anthony A.
2022-07-17 03:46:41 +0000 UTCGood stuff Colin and also congrats on the engagement (saw it on Twitter)
O
2022-07-17 01:29:19 +0000 UTCOoo I'm hyped. I really like this guy
Francis
2022-07-16 18:24:49 +0000 UTCJust went from 6 to midnight
Brian
2022-07-16 18:19:51 +0000 UTCNeontaster! Nice to see world's collide!
Sharang Inamdar
2022-07-16 16:15:24 +0000 UTCVery excited for Noam to be on the pod! Can't wait to listen
AL022
2022-07-16 16:11:09 +0000 UTCWorlds are colliding! :D
Conor Wilson
2022-07-16 16:07:23 +0000 UTCWas not expecting Noam what a pleasant surprise
Craig Carter
2022-07-16 16:03:44 +0000 UTCYES Iโve been waiting for this to happen for so long
James Donavon
2022-07-16 16:01:51 +0000 UTC
