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Sacred Symbols+, Episode 214 | The Life and Times of Melonie Mac

Please welcome Melonie Mac to +. Melonie is a well-known content creator in the games space, but her disposition is notably different from that of her peers. Openly Christian and politically conservative, Melonie doesn't fit the mold of most industry women. By remaining true to herself, Melonie is something different in a sea of sameness, and we get deep into the political weeds in the second half of our conversation (so you've been fairly warned not to listen if you don't like political talk). The top of our chat, however, is actually all about Tomb Raider: Melonie is a super-fan, and she has lots of thoughts about recent leaks and happenings, and opines about both the past and future of the once-great franchise that, for her, anyway, was once the ultimate power fantasy, but is no more.

Sacred Symbols+, Episode 214 | The Life and Times of Melonie Mac

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Have followed Melonie for awhile and recently re-joined as a Patron.. was pleasantly surprised to find this interview. 👏👍

Scoopski_TheBand

Excellent episode, excellent conversation. One of the best SS+ of late. Didn't agree with 100% of everything, but it was all discussed fair and intellectually, I enjoyed it way more than I would have if I was 100% on board. I'm glad your show is so varied and with so many guests, I never feel like I'm in one of those dreaded social bubbles.

Andrew Clark

This Ryan guy seems like a fun dude.

Nicholas ONeill

I hate the term woke

TEEJ

This episode was awesome ! Great guest all around

superbadisfunny .

Also, for the listeners confused about what woke culture is, check out libsoftiktok on Instagram

Alec Davis

Enjoyed this episode, didn’t agree on all fronts but the vast majority. Thanks Colin

Alec Davis

I loved this episode!

Jarett Davis

Excellent episode !!!

A Hind D

Great conversation.. thanks again 👍🏻

Billy boob

Finally getting around to listening to this one and it was awesome! Any interview with topics like this will stir up some less than kind comments but don't let it get to you. LSM continues to make the best content around !

Colin Kolhoven

I kinda agree, actually. Who are the reactionaries again?

Colin Moriarty

Thanks!

Colin Moriarty

Thank you for your kind words.

Colin Moriarty

Lots of odd comments coming up out of the woodwork here, especially the progressives that get prototypically defensive. Just shows you how some people are closed minded vs. being able to openly discuss or question your own beliefs. Good interview Colin, keep up the good work!

AL022

Colin, I always appreciate the variety of guests you have on SS+. I'm a working journalist and love hearing a wide variety of views on social/political issues. Great episode!

Austin Eller

Great ep. I consider myself center left but I think more diverse opinions and ideas are important and should be celebrated. Thanks for putting me on to a new voice in the industry Colin!

Nic N

Thanks!

Colin Moriarty

I think it's pretty embarrassing to suggest that anything but a gender binary exists, personally. You know, the thing that has existed for time immemorial until four years ago.

Colin Moriarty

Yeah man, she has deep insight here.

Colin Moriarty

Indeed.

Colin Moriarty

Yeah, I really liked that reference.

Colin Moriarty

Great episode! Melonie is wholesome and the episode was well rounded with gaming and politics 👍🏽

ChristianLikeTheReligion

Once I read the description on Tuesday I kinda felt like this one wouldn't be for me... Reading some of these responses makes me think I made the right call lol

Josh Gamez

The fixation on the 50 genders thing I found pretty embarrassing personally. That came from like one study several years ago and is not in general conversation on this issue. How Colin described his view afterward, I feel, is a more nuanced and readily accepted view on gender, or moreso that gender doesn't exist at all.

Kyle Fox

Not bored enough to press play on this one.

Chris Adams

Great episode! Enjoyed how candid Melonie was throughout and her genuine excitement for OG Tomb Raider makes me wanna go check out the old games :)

Jeremy Tan

Really bizzare fixation with specific "words" Melonie used. Seems exactly like when people try to discredit others over a typo. 🙄

Bambi_Cobblestone

Love her perspective on Tomb Raider. Comparing Lara to the Doom guy makes perfect sense. I didn't mind the new Tomb Raiders although I got so board in the last one once you get to the town and you have to do errands for people. Doing favours for townsfolk is like the last thing I want to do in Tomb Raider.

Fat Lee Adama

"SJW" is a term I never, ever use, and never have. "Woke" sometimes, but I prefer "PC". That said, I'm not gonna tell other people how to speak.

Colin Moriarty

Thank you!

Colin Moriarty

Thank you for your kind words.

Colin Moriarty

Interesting episode! I did do a bit of eye-rolling when terms like woke agenda and SJW were thrown around. These SJW that are somehow responsible for changing race relations (according to Melonie), but are at the same dying and not at all influential anymore (as said in the end). Race relations did change in the past 20 years. But only blaming SJWs, instead of the rise of the internet, social media and many other factors seems dishonest. I still really liked the conversation though, so keep bringing on controversial/diverse guests. Hopefully some progressive people will accept your invites to come on. Maybe someone like Vaush, a controversial progressive political streamer/Gamer (Chris talked to him a few times too)

Dennis

Great fucking episode man

Jason Olmstead

Great podcast great discussion. Personally like the newer Tomb Raider more but we all have our own opinions and are entitled to them,like having podcasts with open discussions and even if I don't agree with all of them I enjoy listening to other opinions and hearing other perspectives. I feel like that is lost nowadays. Anyway keep up the great work my fellow New Yorker

Kevin Padua

No problem. =)

Colin Moriarty

Thank you for listening!

Colin Moriarty

Thank you for listening.

Colin Moriarty

Great interview as usual. Thanks for introducing me to another great YouTube provider!

Peter Pham

Top Tier shit right here yall. What a wonderful guest and conversation. We must have Mel back asap!

lazer_josh

No doubt.

Colin Moriarty

The research shows that people don't choose to become gay. People are born that way.

Colin Moriarty

Anti-gay?! I'd tamp that in, my friend. Gay people are just like you and me, and they've done nothing wrong.

Colin Moriarty

Interesting.

Colin Moriarty

Read Irreversible Damage!

Colin Moriarty

I think humans agree with each other about many of the fundamentals, and want the same things out of life.

Colin Moriarty

Thanks. =)

Colin Moriarty

I agree.

Colin Moriarty

Thanks for listening.

Colin Moriarty

I will one day!

Colin Moriarty

She has multiple channels, I believe.

Colin Moriarty

I had the complete wrong impression of her, I’m so happy to be wrong. I hope you have her back, I loved how candid she was, and obviously some of it was unpleasant for her to talk about. Great episode!

Eric Crunkilton

Thanks for listening.

Colin Moriarty

Ah, fair enough.

Colin Moriarty

I appreciate that.

Colin Moriarty

Thank you so much.

Colin Moriarty

Thanks!

Colin Moriarty

Me too. =)

Colin Moriarty

Thank you!

Colin Moriarty

I could see it.

Colin Moriarty

Thanks for listening.

Colin Moriarty

One day, perhaps. =)

Colin Moriarty

Sorry to hear that!

Colin Moriarty

Just know that means you couldn't feel for many people I love. And so it should come as no surprise to people when lines are drawn, and even those of us who don't believe take a different side.

Colin Moriarty

<3

Colin Moriarty

They are out there! Glad to help make the connection.

Colin Moriarty

Thanks for sharing your feedback. I will ask this: What do you say about the statistics that show that transitioning doesn't lower the suicide rate whatsoever?

Colin Moriarty

Thank you.

Colin Moriarty

Very interesting listen. Opinions like hers are often shot down and under represented in the online space. Whether you agree or disagree, the twitch/video game content creator space is an odd hive mind.

Noah Trujillo

Open mindedness is great, but bowing down to every demand is not a requirement. As far as the discussion on spectrums, I believe that with everything. Lots of people see many issues as polar opposites and nothing in between, to me, it’s a full range of variance. Some people are 100% born gay, but others could be as a result of the environment. It was a good conversation, thanks for the content. The only thing I majorly disagree with is another thing where it’s a variance. Melanie talks about people selling their bodies with her opinion of it not being a good thing. There are certainly instances where it can be degrading to someone’s mental health, but that’s case by case. There are sex workers who would be totally fine with it. To me, all victimless crime should be legalized/regulated. Prostitution, gambling, non lethal drugs, etc.

TL

Look up Desmond is amazing, he’s a minor who started stripping at 7-8 years old and is still stripping all over the nation at 15 years old today, as young as 9 years old people caught him stripping nude at bars( you can find the pictures if you really try but given they are literal cp they are hard to find) but Desmond is a major reason I’m not only anti lgbt but also anti gay, they cannot reproduce so they must indoctrinate!

Captain Bon Clay

I agree with your first part in that there does seem to be a disconnect between the sexualized Lara and sexualized OnlyFans. Colin has wiggle room though on the second part. A person can think something shouldn't be illegal, but not agree with the act. For example I don't think the possession of any drug should be a crime within reason of the amount. That said I wouldn't advocate that someone should start smoking meth or using heroin. They should be helped/persuaded not to use, but I don't want people in jail for it.

Zach

I actually like the current Tomb Raiders more than the old ones mostly for the gameplay but they need better writing and a little more direction. Judging by the script you guys read, it’s not happening sadly. As for Melonie, she seems ok to me. Gives me Chris vibes sometimes.

NeO JD

I will say it was a bit strange to hear her talk about how she wants Lara Croft to have giant tits and how that's empowering but women on Only Fans is not empowering for them? Hey Colin, you seem to not like the idea of OnlyFans, I seem to recall back in the day you saying that prostitution should be legal. Is prostitution a more moral thing than OnlyFans. Just curious if your views on prostitution has changed.

Michael Welter

As someone with a 14yr old daughter who has been going through a huge amount of gender confusion that part of the convo really struck a chord. It really is difficult at the moment to identify a genuine feeling vs what peer pressure etc is making her think. I will of course support whoever they want to be but it's such a balancing act between supporting them and making sure they're asking the right questions of themselves :/

Martin

I’m glad Colin has all sorts on the show, genuinely. I was kind of getting flash backs to the church and youth group days that helped me leave the church, but it’s still interesting to hear from a side I haven’t really thought about in about a decade. Probably more interesting is how much we all have in common, even though there was plenty I was not fully onboard with.

Jayce Tamulevich

Hearing about the concept of a power fantasy "for women" from a woman was unexpectedly deep. What an awesome episode.

Bambi_Cobblestone

Great work. Definitely have her on again. The staying true to yourself message is a good one

PairOfShuse

And the second result is her main channel. The channel your talking about has 37k subscribers. Her main channel has 330k subscribers. I'm saying why not give the full picture instead of making it seem like her only content is reactionary? Do you have this same energy for activist clickbait content?

Zach

I’m not even committed to a Christian path but I follow Melanie, this is pretty cool, I wasn’t expecting this.

TL

Melonie is awesome! Great episode. Please have her back.

Anthony A.

Zach the first result is Melanie Mac go boom. It's reactionary click bait. You could put the same subjects on the quartering

Ryan

Bobby her entire channel is based around reactionary drama. It's not one or twice. It's the majority of her Internet footprint

Ryan

Her argument for the more male gaze centric Lara Croft certainly conflicted with her personal views of women utilizing their bodies for financial gain (tubstreamers, onlyfans, etc). I guess one is merely a fantasy character, but I just don’t get the judgement and prudishness. Not someone who I will ever follow, but interesting to hear the thoughts of someone who is very different in their beliefs than me for an hour. Got my fill.

XnXblkout

Great Colin. That Ben Shapiro quote about children out of wedlock, etc. is Thomas Sowell's three things. He's a fantastic economist and has been ripping truth for decades.

Nathan Densley

this was the best in the interview series so far

Trevor Myers

A great get Colin! Looking through comments on this it seems you are doing your job well. Presenting different opinions is what Last Stand Media does best!

Zach

Absolutely love these!

Tacoyaki

we get it Ryan, you have a hate boner for her. She said the magic word "woke" twice and it triggered you

Bobby Bowcut

Great episode Colin. Love these types of episodes to hear a different perspective than the norm.

Bobby Bowcut

Very interesting conversation! This is probably one of my favorite SS + episodes. As always LSM isn’t afraid to give people with different viewpoints a chance to voice their opinion. And much respect to Melonie Mac for staying true to herself! And not selling out! Definitely need to follow her content.

Raymond keys

Look her channel up. She's a reactionary drama YouTuber.

Ryan

Looked her up. Her channel is a quartering style reactionary drama channel. Pretty cringe.

Ryan

I see her recommendation is to turn Tomb Raider into James Bond. Just send her lots of adventures but not to much back story. Kinda mysterious and fun

Andrew Ramos

He's a reactionary consuming specific media sources

Ryan

Listened to the whole thing. It felt like this lady could hardly go for a sentence without saying woke agenda. I agreed with about 70% of what you two were talking about, but it was still a bit of an annoying listen. Could take or leave seeing her again.

Bryce Mccloskey

This one delivered. Thank you! 😊

Seth Zentner

Great episode! Please sir, may I have some more? 🥣

Troy Walters

I wasn't a fan of this episode I actually didn't even finish it. I heard woke so many times on this, maybe it's just different views on stuff. But we always hear how the gaming community just stays in their ecosystem. That's what this episode felt like to me, it's fine to have your views but this one wasn't for me.

Mojo Patatoes

cool chat, but I don’t know if I can ever feel for a Christian conservative 😂 not my kind of people but I respect her for staying true to herself.

Anthony Palerino

While I was listening to this episode it got me very heated. I honestly couldn't believe myself. I was sitting in a room where there was no AC so I had to go to another room with AC. Anyway, great listen. I hope you bring more interesting people in Colin.

Asique Alam

Colin, do you mind telling me where you see lesbians being told they're Men? I haven't seen this anywhere myself.

MJ SKA BOI

Thank you for the introduction to Melonie as I wasn't aware of her before this video. Christian and Conservative myself so it's good to know that there are content creators like that out there to check on. On top of the Gaming while Christian interview you had and this, your efforts are much appreciated Colin.

Yiorgos

I respect your (Colin and Melonie’s) arguments regarding the transgender community and when to begin transitioning. However, I do believe it is more nuanced and there are many cases of kids (young teens) being suppressed and discouraged to transition, which can lead to suicide and other severe mental health issues. I work with this community and hear many of these same stories over and over. I think there is a big difference between being encouraged or “told your transgender” for being a tomboy and respecting someone’s desire to transition. I do agree that we shouldn’t just give any kid asking for hormones a prescription without proper supervision and treatment. They usually are required to meet with a therapist focused on transgender issues and consult with a doctor on the process. Just like a young teen knowing they are gay, they can know they are transgender. I hope this comment does not come off disrespectful. Again, you are entitled to your views and I do not think someone is a “bad person” or “against the trans-community” for having differing opinions. Love the content and thanks for the continued discussion on these issues. I would love to discuss it further if you are ever open to it. Thank you.

Dakota Brown

I really enjoyed this one.

Ryan Browne

Funny, because I kind of wrote it like that. =)

Colin Moriarty

Ha! Thanks for listening.

Colin Moriarty

Thanks for listening!

Colin Moriarty

=)

Colin Moriarty

I know it's not necessarily apples-to-apples; however, I don't want to open myself up to similar complaints about getting things for free, etc. I do believe that "sex work is real work." But I also think that "sex work should be discouraged."

Colin Moriarty

I'm glad you enjoyed it.

Colin Moriarty

Glad to deliver.

Colin Moriarty

Thank you!

Colin Moriarty

Thank you for your kind words.

Colin Moriarty

Thank you. <3

Colin Moriarty

Cool, cool. Looking forward to listening later! A note: I did get a glimpse of the original description for this episode, and I couldn’t find anything untoward about it. I did, however, read the words ‘Not that there’s anything wrong with that’ in Jerry's voice from Seinfeld. A reference to the episode ‘The outing’, of course. LOL!

Joey

Nice to see someone break the lefty mold of the show even if it is butter girl lmao

DIS-Bee

I disagreed with your stances on a couple of the discussion points, but I still enjoyed the conversation! I don't think it's a bad thing to consume content that's sometimes abrasive to your worldview. Much love as always!

Allan Sweeney

Hey it's the woman that eats sticks of butter on twitter 🤣 awesome!

James Buck

I deleted the twitch app when hot tub streamers and all this other stuff became a thing. And it's insane how many girls make a living off onlyfans. I don't know how someone can pay someone to like them and be ok. Like you should go talk to someone about that. Same reason why I've never been to a strip club. Why would I pay a girl to pretend to like me and rub herself on me? I would never compare that to patreon simply because you provide news and commentary and humor and all sorts of things. You actually have skills. Showing your tits and saying "hey baby" is not a skill. If I wanna watch porn I'll go on PH. And the sad part is that I can't blame girls for doing it because guys are the ones stupid enough to pay for it.

thefury4815

This was a great listen. Please have her back!

Will Hahn

I secretly have been hoping for this for quite sometime

Craig Carter

Really excited to see this, Been hoping this happened for a long time. As usual this channel delivers like no one else.

Brian

She use to follow me on Twitter when she had hundred followers, then she unfollow me when I unfollow her because I was purging my following list. Lol. Anyways can’t wait to hear. LSM is the JRE for gaming.

Al Rodriguez

New to your patreon. Love the content and the topics. You just keep on keeping that shit up!

Mike Tadych

I edited the description. <3

Colin Moriarty

No.

Colin Moriarty

Thanks.

Colin Moriarty

Sorry.

Colin Moriarty

Nice.

Colin Moriarty

Hey, if you say so. =)

Colin Moriarty

Thank you!

Colin Moriarty

Is she related to Toby Mac? It's been some time since I've last listened to Toby Mac music. I'll listen to this first...then some Toby Mac...

Boots!

Colin it makes sense how you often talk about how you don’t consume other gaming content, because your description of prominent women in gaming sounds like it came from 4chan rather than reality.

karth

Gonna have to issue a stand down on that episode description. I get what you're saying but it's just strange.

Judah Bailey

I remember seeing her in a PC hardware commercial. Think it was HP

HighSenpai

Just a lil bit of incel energy in the episode description nbd i guess

Andres

Awesome! Was gonna say she'd be a great guest to have on especially with all the Tomb Raider news. Excited to listen to this one after work.

Dave Ramos


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