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Patreon-Exclusive Sacred Symbols (July, 2019): Uninvited

The powers-that-be at PAX West have uninvited Sacred Symbols from performing at its previously-scheduled panel, weeks after extending an invite and encouraging us to tell our audience we'll be there. I figured I'd sit down and talk to you guys and gals a little bit about it.

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Patreon-Exclusive Sacred Symbols (July, 2019): Uninvited

Comments

🙄 Cluelessly cry harder, douchebag loser nerd

Disappointing that they did this, and that people are threatening you. I think that if you went somewhere like Pengucon or Dragoncon, you wouldn't have any trouble getting deplatformed there. Neither of them are gaming conferences though. One's a Linux and Scifi conference, and the other's a random nerdery conference, that does tabletop gaming but not really video games. I now have no reason to bother with PAX in general.

Kaz Redclaw

It's shit like this and many, MANY other things that have permanently put me off the gaming media, influencer circles and even the voice actor crowd, cause they're a bunch of authoritarian, regressive, hateful people that are self righteous in the most gross way. I want nothing to do with any of their bullshit and it upsets me whenever they act like this. But as the late John Bain proved, they represent a dwindling old guard that holds onto dying institutions, whilst YouTubers and Twitch streamers are more likeable than they'll ever be. I'd rather support you and Chris than any of these virtue signalling goblins.

JusticeSoulTuna

I was never going to be going to this event as it would be treck but I do feel for my fellower listeners, and you Colin and Chris. Does it matter why? Fuck these losers. Just find a way to do it on our own as a standalone event. It would be probably better. Id sure as hell be there!

Scott MacLure

Stand firm, man.

Max Stahl

Realizes it is a topic MANY people would pay to listen to... Makes it free

PAX has posted the official schedule. Here's the panel that is now scheduled in place of Sacred Symbols: https://west.paxsite.com/schedule/panel/system-design-on-fire-all-the-time-controlling-chaos

Jerison Reidell

Hey Colin, I’m late to the party but just wanted to say that I’m a left leaning black man and I have had no issues with any of the things you have said. Political or otherwise, this is fucked up. Keep on being successful though. That’s the biggest and best middle finger you can give! Keep making Tuesdays great.

Isaiah

Colin, Hang in there. While this process sucks your fans understand how these folks in this gaming bubble work. You’re a talented fella and we recognize that! Keep your head held high.

Tyler

Colin, in all seriousness if you are truly worried about your safety I would gladly run security for you free of charge. As you know I have combat experience. I am a marksman and a Golden Gloves boxer in my younger years. This is a standing offer for whoever and whenever. We love you buddy.

Brett Carlson

I'm really sad to hear they did this to you guys and us but I'm still hoping to have a good time there. I don't want to support PAX after this unless they do something to make up for this mistreatment

Tyson Williams

First time, long time (10 years.) I've been a freebie all this time, but this pushed me over the edge. Fuck PAX.

Keep up the good work colin. The fans love listening to you and follow your podcasts because you tell the truth. I have less time for podcasts since working in public accounting the last couple of years, but i always listen to you. you made the gold standard of PS podcast format and continue it with chris. numbers dont lie, the fans have your back

Joseph Losinno

You're a great guy Colin. Been listening to all your CLS content since day 1 as a happy freeloader, but this whole event and your willingness to stand by your fans (and refund them out of your pocket) pushed me to finally become a patron of both you and Chris. Excited for any and all content you put out in the future, even if Fireside Chats sadly won't be a part of it. Thank you for all that you do. PS- Go Jets!

Drew Sapolnick

Agree with the other posters re fireside chats, you do what you gotta do. That said, fireside chats is my favourite podcast (of any on the internet) and it will be sorely missed. This whole thing with Pax has saddened me more than I would have imagined. Annoyingly I already have badges to Australian Pax in October, and I've lost all my enthusiasm for it. Anyways, keep up the great work Colin.

Adrien Morris

Don’t worry about if you have to cancel Fireside chats Colin. You REALLY don’t wanna risk letting in one of these scumbags into your house. Fuck that. It makes me so mad how this reinforces the fake fucking narrative that you are somehow a nazi. Go read a book ! There’s real nazis in there ! I hope the money pours in and you can drown your oppressive bully’s with it. These mob mentality weak minded too scared to be an individual type characters. You’ve been victimized for too long. I see the shit on Twitter and it’s disgusting. Even those fake friends like Jake Cannata and that bald bitch from IGN who acts like he’s an Italian from Jersey well we disown him here he can go play his wack ass Mario and Zelda games on his Switch. Good luck bro and keep your head up. It would really suck for free thinkers everywhere to see you derailed. No not you not ever. Peace man.

Anthony Longo

It would be the ultimate redemption story having you and Chris do a panel at a PlayStation Experience. Other than something Sony or PlayStation specific, the rest can fuck themselves if the scene is this toxic. Love you bro’s for everything you do. Seriously, Sacred Symbols has become a way of life for me. You guys (and Dagan, Dustin, and the crew) are like family at this point. Hurts me too, Col. But on here, we all lock arms and come together. It’s a truly amazing community. And to think it all came about from a similar conspiracy in your historical career, it makes you wonder.. I wouldn’t be here typing on this thread if you weren’t ousted and created Colin’s Last Stand. Everything happens for a reason, Colin. Thank you for your passion and your fight for us. It’s a gesture of devotion to your fans, and I can do nothing more than raise a glass to what you stand for. Cheers đŸ»

Tony Rivera

We love you guys. This isn’t right what’s being done to you and Chris. Our community will continue to support you because it’s straight up some of the best content out there. PAX be dammed

Ryan Lemieux

I couldn't sit by as a freeloader anymore after this, PAX's plan to stop you from gaining anymore of an audience has backfired. Keep up the good work, and keep being you.

Josh Walker

Been listening to you since the Beyond! days and have been happily living that free-loader life but with Sacred Symbols Plus on the horizon, and this PAX debacle, it was time. Happy to officially be a supporter.

Austin Prentice

I would love to see you and Chris be at GamingCommunityExpo next year. I went this year it is such a great community. The ultimate point con is about raising money for St. Jude.

Jonathan Broussard

I'll be gutted to see Fireside Chats go. I've learned so much from yourself and your range of guests. I love Sacred Symbols and Knockback, but they don't often surprise me. I know what I'm going to get and that's cool. But Fireside Chats continues to surprise me time and time again. I play a little game with myself where I try and guess the title before it pops up.......I'm never right. I totally understand why you have to consider it, and it's not going to change my level of support (if anything, I'm just going to support you more and more because I feel like you earn it) but it'll just sadden me because it really invokes memories of when GOG was good. Big love. X

Russell Garrett

Sacred Symbols is the best playstation podcast of all-time it is better than the one you did at IGN and the one you did with the back stabber. chris is an awesome co-host each week it sounds like 2 friends talking playstation. don't change who you are bro the media wants to hate on the success of this patreon and your podcast, it is honestly jealousy.

Mr. Figs

I'll just echo everyone else here and say that we'll always have your back, Colin. CLS and it's audience is the best corner of the internet and as we've seen happen time and again, the haters will only make you stronger and the community better.

Joe McPartlin

This comment is spot on man.

Ryan Murdoch

This is a shame for everyone involved, including those at PAX that had the power to make this decision. Seriously can't we all grow up a little?. It's crazy to me that this keeps happening to Colin, this is the only fanbase that is all around nice. I never see toxic posts or any other overly negative thing, which I really think speaks to Colins character. I do hope that this does not stop you from occasionally trying to do a panel at one of these events Colin, I really think its good for you to put yourself out there, even if it does not work out all the time. If you decide against it though, thats fine man, we still have your back :D

Ryan Murdoch

Yeah - shrug it off! It's easy to let people get under your skin. I almost lost a third of my ear 2 weeks ago playing drunk golf (I don't play golf - mind you), after I broke my club in frustration because I couldn't compete. Either the shrapnel from the graphite shaft or the actual club head left a huge chunk of pulp hanging by my ear drum. 20+ stitches and a couple weeks later -- and it's still bleeding but I'll be okay. Point being: don't let them drag you down!! I think.....

tobin_asai999

Colin, don’t let them get to you. Keep doing what you do. If they mess with you, they mess with all of us. As for Pax, it exposes them and I hope you’ll keep fighting to get the fans back their money.

NeO JD

I been a longtime follower and supporter Colin and decided it was time to join the others and truly show my support for you by throwing you Patreon support. I am sorry it took so long but this whole Pax shit is just enough to piss me off and I was not even going. I am an older gamer and gaming should be inclusive and can be a positive hobby. A PAX should be about a celebration of gamers and games and be all-inclusive!

Barzenak

Don’t seclude yourself / live in fear, Colin. It’ll prove that those cowards won with their shitty, miserable lives. Wait &amp; let this boil over. Don’t cancel Fireside Chats or Meet &amp; Greets. There’s way more people that love &amp; support you.

Brandon Soto

I bet some unwitting event planner saw Colin's following size and such, thought it was a good idea. Then the higher ups got wind and shut it down. Where does this all end in the grand scheme of human interaction I mean?.....

Mandarin_carnage

This is disgraceful. Sorry to you both. It takes a lot to put yourself out there and this is completely unacceptable. Perhaps this will create enough buzz to make a shift in the gaming culture. The leftist media thinks they are right all the time, and they need to see how fucked up they’ve actually become. We need to talk about this and continue beating the drum. The media pushing people out is ultimately leading us down a terrible path.

Gurnico

Keep up the great work guys! I've followed you Colin for years through all the trials and tribulations and seeing the way you have been treat this past week has made me finally take the Patreon plunge and make Colin's Last Stand my first and only subscription. Much love from sunny England.

Everything I say will probably have been said already , but we got your back. Keep doing what you’re doing because the numbers and growth CLS has been experiencing in the last few months speaks volumes. And never feel you need to put yourself out of your comfort zone for the sake of content/podcasts , Fireside chats was great but remember you guys come first ! Keep up the work C&amp;C

Declan H

Keep up the good work and try not to let this keep you up at night. if you need a bodyguard, I can bench over 100lbs and I can run 2 miles in under 20mins. DM me for more details lol.

Nathan R

Fuck em. Keep your head up man! You do amazing work. I appreciate you, your content, and work ethic.

A.G.Rowe

Feels good to be back! Keep up the great content, Colin!

The most ridiculous thing in my opinion about all of this is there's no grounds for the treatment that you get Colin. I've been a fan of yours since the IGN days, followed you at Kinda Funny, and have listened to every episode of Knockback and Sacred symbols you've produced. Within that content I can't find one solid example of something you've said that would cause such hostility towards you and your work. I truly do not understand it. People I've shared your work with come to love it for the same reason I do, you're an honest, hardworking, incredibly intelligent person who has a passion for the things he does in life. What's so wrong about that? Anyways, I'm happy to support you now and into the future. Keep up the great work!

Colin Kolhoven

New to Patreon and just subscribed, Colin! I've been a freeloader for too long. :-) Thank you for all of your hardwork. I love your content and look forward to your podcasts every week!

Can't believe this... The way you are treated is incomprehensible... I have watched you verbally abused by "professionals" for several years now... I truly do not know how these people still have jobs.... If I went online and said anything like what is said to you on a regular basis to a colleague or coworker I would lose my job... Do games media not have HR departments...? Having said that what is happening here is on an entire new level... I'm floored... Much love Colin... Please keep doing what youre doing...

Eric Cibak

If the cancellation did not require the police to be contacted, I can't imagine any valid reason for it

Andrew Hoculik

Doubt I can add to what everyone has said by this point, but I will say one of the things that makes you special, Colin, is that you are always 100% sincere and authentic. When you share a feeling or opinion it's not to represent some group of people or push an agenda or signal that you're on the "right team" it's always what you believe and feel, no more or less. It's always also been clear to me that despite any differences in belief or ideology or politics you honestly care about the well being and happiness of people in all walks of life, in all corners. I think that kind of naked offering of yourself is why so many of us develop such a real love and feeling of resonance with you. There's a bunch of podcasters and personalities that I like and follow, BUT, my feelings of loyalty and support for you are deeper. If someone hurts you or attacks you it makes me angry in a way that I would compare to a close real friend or even a family member. Admittedly, some of that may also be because the main stream also treats you unfairly... beyond unfairly... there are some that actively try to destroy you and others whose silence on the matter should be to their great shame and I have ZERO tolerance for de-platforming, defamation, lies and compromised loyalty through silence. I will say this - IF for some impossible crazy never-gonna-happen-reason they did offer to reinstate your panel, you should go because their hope would be that you would be too "embittered and petty" to let go of whatever flimsy excuse they made for "the confusion," so everyone could say "Oh there was a mix-up but his ego is soo out of control he couldn't let it go." My vote is to not give them that. I'm with you no matter what though. Keeping being and doing you. Also - shout out to Chris who also doesn't deserve this and who I've come to really enjoy on Sacred Symbols.

Here-here.

Hey Colin. I'd take a bullet for you. I mean, just like in the arm or whatever but still. You're the best.

Adam carruth

Just listened to both this and Fireside Chat 100, which is quite the high and low ride. Sorry to both you and those that made the sacrifices to figure out a way to make it to a panel that is now non-existent. Hopefully, you'll find a way to keep Fireside Chats viable - it's such a fun and unique celebration of the CLS community.

Phil Crone

You're doing the right thing, and what your detractors want is for you to stop putting yourself out there, by bullying you into submission. Don't give in. Everything that was in your control, you've gone about the right way, but as I'm sure you know from Hockey or other sports, sometimes you can do everything right and it doesn't go your way, but you keep grinding. The irony is I had zero interest in going to pax, but I can promise you, when you give a public appearance another go, I'll be in attendance.

Toren R. (KESA)

Thanks for all you do. Day 1 supporter of CLS and proud. Uk fan so always hoped one day to go to a PAX some where when in the usa but they can get fucked now. I hope that one day the majority of people can practise the fair minded respect for debate of all subjects and other peoples views that you do colin. Also big Chris and Dagan fan, love to all at CLS. Dont let them get you down!

Perfect platypus

While I've never done anything like PAX, I have some experience in that vein of backstabbery, and I can almost guarantee they never intended to let you have a panel. Since no paperwork was swapped between you guys, it seems like this was a dig at you to make you spend money and look like you can't follow through for your fans. IMO, don't submit to any of these garbage fire shows, grow your own brand and power and make them beg you to come.

Peter Mark

Don’t be sorry for putting yourself “out there”. The rejection hurts, but in that rejection you expose these media groups/people for who they are and what they stand for. I love fireside chats, but I understand why you might stop production.

Brian McHale

Thank you for this......FUUUUUUUUCK Pax and everyone involved. This is complete bullshit. I never go to these shows, never been to one...had actually contemplated trying to go to this because I wanted to meet you, Ray Gun, and other community members...decided against this because I always felt deep down this would happen (easy to say now I know). Its sad and I feel bad for anyone that actually threw the $$ down and are fucked now. Don't ever give up though Colin...we'll always have your back and we love you. We won't let them win. You're the best and just remember when things like this happen or you're feeling defeated...this, CLS, it means a lot to a lot of people and you, Chris, Dagan, etc. all mean a lot to us. I love CLS and our community and wouldn't trade it for anything! ❀

Jeremy Cochran

It deeply shames me, as someone with center left politics, how bad these folks make reasonable liberals look. I think you're right in telling these guys to go fuck themselves, Colin. I have always admired you, even though I don't agree with everything you say/think. You tell the truth, or at least you say exactly what you think without fear of capitulation. That's the same reason I think Rogans show took off, because he approaches topics honestly. Speaking for myself, I don't need this type of event. Tbh this whole uninvited scenario doesn't really effect me, being a more introverted person. Frankly, I never even considered going to an event like PAX, it doesn't sound like something I'd be interested in, even with the positives of meeting members of this community (which I'd love; you guys and gals are great!). It looks like I have rambled on here a bit, but one last thing I'd like to say is: I think I speak for a lot of us when I say our support won't waver over trite things like this that are, frankly, outside of your control. Just keep fucking that chicken and we will be here on the other side for you bud.

I signed up to be a patron just to spite these assholes, we will always back you Colin.

michael cuellar

I'm so sorry, Colin, it has come to this. It makes me feel sick of how much people are bothered by another man's success. Success he achieved with hard work and dedication, by the way. As long as you're successful, they won't stop with this bullshit. We will support you, brother, til the end. They kick us down, we get back up, twice as strong. Much love, brother

Petre Cismigiu

Colin, I hope you read this. I just wanted to say how much you mean to me and so many others. It goes beyond just PlayStation. There are so many people today being bullied into silence, and being made to be ashamed for their thoughts or who they vote for. I can’t tell you how scared I am, to have my entire life and career ruined, because I can’t even speak my mind. This is the environment we live in. You can hate the current president, you can even be a liberal, and that still isn’t good enough for these people. You must stick to the group thought to a T, and if you deviate they attack you. I have family who I’m told are racist or sexist for the way they vote, when I know they aren’t either. I know the games industry media is some of the most petty and insular groups in the world. Their treatment of you is proof. I am legit baffled by the hatred and vitriol you’ve gotten over the years. You are one of the most liberal conservatives I’ve ever seen. You’ve been a supporter of most of their mainline issues. Even in recent years, you haven’t even been that political, if at all on Sacred Symbols. This “blacklisting” of you when you’ve not even done anything they can use as an excuse is beyond horrible. I hope you know many of us see what is going on to you. It breaks my heart to know that you helped out so many people break into this industry, nursed a best friend back to health, even gave up your home to some - and they all turned on you when it convenient. I hope you know that you have supporters that will never turn their back on you. I’ve been listening to you for over 15 years now, and I know the person you truly are Colin. I know you are going through a hard time right now. I couldn’t imagine what it’s like to feel your own personal safety is at risk. To have this level of hate thrown your way. I don’t know what that’s like. But I know how it feels to live every day in fear of not being able to say what I think I feel. I think all of your audience feels this. And we are sick of it. The sad thing is, there is people who have political opinions that I think are completely awful, yet I would still have dinner with them. I would still be friends with them. I would work with them. Sad to think that courtesy doesn’t extend both ways. Keep strong man. We have your back, always! No one will ever bully us out of supporting you.

Mewgia

Terrific episode. What PAX did was cowardly and short-sighted. It just shows how people at top-level jobs like at PAX can be actively stupid because no-one with a different opinion is around to point out a common sense reality. Am sad to hear you are thinking of stopping fireside chats due to the potential for threat. I think this is your best and most interesting show, and weakens your brand not to have it. Would you consider doing it by skype, over the phone or limit it so you are sure of your guests, without it needing to be a weekly show.

Peter Campbell

Going to continue being a supporter and once I start making more money will be contributing more to this podcast so that you can continue putting on the content that you all want to put on. I understand the effort it took of overcoming such anxiety for us to put this on and it does not go unappreciated. Thank you , Chris, Dagan, Sophia, Erin and anyone else involved that I forgot with bringing us great content. I believe most of the other patrons of this CLS family echo this sentiment, we appreciate you all and all you do for us.

Barrett Boswell

Colin dude... This is fucked, really sorry to hear this. I've been listening to you since pre 2011 Beyond days and I appreciate all the content you make. Keep up the good work, you have a great team with you (Christopher, Dagan, and Sophia). Keep your chin up and let the content show the pricks you are better then them. Maybe we can recruit Tom Sweeney to go to Pax West as a Sacred Symbols martyr and he can drop kick the throats of all the haters in the name of all of us. Keep it up dude, we all see the shit card you drew here and know it was out of your control.

Steve Korber

Keep doing what you're doing because it's working and you're beating the haters.

Joey Finelli

This fucking sucks dude, I get you feel compelled to stop putting yourselves out there, but please keep what your doing man, Fireside chats is one of my favourite podcast out there and I'd be gutted if you stopped it. So much so that I was considering reaching out to maybe arrange putting a Fireside chat with you. I get why your looking at it this way but dude, we are here for you no matter what you choose to do. Been a listener since Beyond through KF and a patron since CLS first day. Keep going dude because you are killing itđŸ€˜

Richard Boot

Colin, it doesn’t matter how much these pathetic losers bully, YOU are the one with the successful business and thousands of adoring fans. Your podcasts brings pleasure and entertainment to the masses, which is something not many people can say. I have been a seasoned listener of podcasts for 10+ years and have been a fan of your work for most of it. Your content really is the best it has ever been. Keep on doing what your doing and ignor them. They are obviously happy wallowing in their strange anger and hatred and aren’t going to go away or change. FUCK EM!! đŸ‘đŸ€˜đŸ˜Ž

I could totally see Greg and Andrea advocating for his removal. So petty and ridiculous

Dan Flynn

The people always claiming openness shutting people downđŸ€”. Ppl threatening you are punks. I know the feeling of putting yourself out there and getting scorched.

Erik Peterson

Fuck PAX and their unprofessional management. I was looking forward to going to Pax Australia this year but this really puts a mark on the organisation as a whole. You deserve an explanation, public apology and refund for the fans. On the upside. Congratulations for all the publicity and new fans this "deplatforming" is bringing you!!

Daniel Schiffer

I don’t understand why people can’t just let stuff go. I’m sure someone higher up or who has a a lot of influence made this happen for you but it’s just ridiculous. You and Chris do your own thing for your own audience and we support you as your audience. I completely understand you not wanting to do fireside chats anymore. I’ve been a supporter for a long time and will continue to support because you keep putting out great work and I really do feel like your friend.

strawhatninja

Love You guys &lt;3 Keep doing what you doing. Stay strong with all of us.

Saulius Vekteris

Its shameful how people have been behaving thinking its a victory when they dont even have to go to it makes me wanna delete Twitter

Michael Choueiri

Been listening to you since early Beyond days and to see how the industry has gradually turned on you is horrible. It's obviously really shitty for your paying fans to be left out in the cold like this and the fact you're fighting this fight for them is a true sign of who you are as a person. As someone who suffers from depression and social anxiety myself, I do hope you're doing okay through all of this because this is very much a personal attack on you. You've always had thick skin but just know we are all here for you as much as you're here for us.

James O'Donnell

Colin, don’t let this knock your confidence and your momentum. If these people actually gave you a chance they would see the passion and care you put into your content and fan base. Keep doing what you’re doing and remember that for every saddo tearing you down, there’s a 1000 of us silently loving you and your content. âœŒïžđŸ’š

Totally support C &amp; C, typical left politics drown out all who don’t fit in there box, It’s a gaming conference for goodness sake, why is it you have to be left or right, you can have views that span both ideals, but that’s the world today. You have to fit in your box.

Everyone here already stated what’s on my mind regarding this issue. Just wanted to say that I love you guys, keep doing what you’re doing. We’re here for you. ❀

Tarik Fakir

Hey Colin hang in there! You and Chris make fantastic content and your audience is with you ❀

Luke Lewis

The community’s here for you C &amp; C. Crying shame all of this, would be terrible (but understand the decision) if Fireside goes, you and yours’ safety comes first. FC is a great show that I know isn’t a big driver numbers wise for CLS but always thought of it as a loss leader, can’t imagine anyone stumbling across it would second guess the quality of the brand and give your other shows a go. I find this whole ideological battle/argument so pointless. Completely unfairly trained on you Colin. I came from in essence not dissimilar background, just in the U.K. I went down a Randian/Objectivist path early on, but you know broaden your horizons, and you might see things differently. You’ve helped in that, probably wouldn’t have given ContraPoints a shot if you hadn’t vouched for the quality of the content. Now support both your content and eagerly await new stuff from you both in my feed.

Grabilicious

Well we can take a little solace in the fact that there is a small part (possibly large part) of Colin deep down that’s relieved he doesn’t have to do this anymore.. that doesn’t take away from the insulting nature of it all though. He was going to do it for the fans which is very kind but honestly I don’t need him doing something he’s not comfortable with to continue enjoying the content and community. If they decide to not do meet and greets I’m ok with it. That’s just me though. (I’m a little biased though because I’ve always felt meet and greets of this nature would also be kinda awkward and therefore never had much desire to attend)

Keep at it dude! Love from the UK

Don't worry Colin, we are all with you. You are amazing and our content is fantastic. Please don't let this get you down. You have a huge audience and we are all with you my friend. Love from London.

Hugo's Desk

Colin and Chris, you both are awesome and I love the work that you do. Never change and dont let these little cunts get in your heads. Your community loves you and sees past the bullshit. Sorry to hear about fireside chats potentially ending but you should definitely go with your gut; you (and your family's) safety is the priority. Sincerely, Geoff =)

Monterey Jack

Hey Colin! Just writing to let you know that this shit sucks, but it isn't the first time and won't be the last of the bullying. You and CLS as a whole are one of the realest out there, and people don't like to hear things that are uncommon inside their little bubble. Just know that your fans got your back! We will always support you for being you. Keep bringing the nuance to the gaming scene, that's so desperatly needed. &lt;3

Jesper Jansson

Listened to this earlier in the day. Colin, there's not much any of us can say to make this one less fucking annoying. We're all here for you, supporting you, and in my case, tweeting my displeasure at PAX with a level head and without insulting them. Well, without personally insulting them. I think pointing out that their business practices here are horrendous and shining a light on how little they care about their guests and talent isn't an insult as much as it is the truth. I have a wedding to go to that weekend, and another commitment the week before, but had I not been so busy, I'd have already bought PAX tickets. I'm pissed at how they've treated you and Chris (and the CLS community), but let me tell you, I'd be even more angry if I'd purchased tickets. To those who did, I'm so fuckin sorry. I love ya, punkhead, and I wanna say thank you during this shitty time. Despite what these assholes have thrown your way, you're still giving us, what, 3 pieces of new content today? 4? No one works harder. We see it. We appreciate. Keep being you. &lt;3

Ian (616Entertainment)

Colin, you are the man! Just remember that your fans are as loyal to you as you are to them, and you are one of the most genuine people in the industry. The way you deeply care about your audience and your willingness to fight for us is exactly the reason why I support you on Patreon. Keep going man, let those assholes drown in their own negativity, since no matter how many times you are knocked down, you will always get up!

Vladislav

I've been enjoying your podcasts since the PSN outage, Colin, I really appreciate your passion, integrity, and appreciation for your audience. I also suffer from severe anxiety and your embracing of it and learning to be productive and contempt regardless is inspiring to me. I'm also a Christian libertarian and you've stood up for both perspectives even when you don't share them yourself. I'm really sorry you're not being treated with the same respect by your peers, what happened to you is disgraceful, and your audience cares just as much about you as you do about us in that regard. SJWs are moral hypocrites full of pure hatred for the other side, I have no problem saying that in the end, they will lose for this behavior, they do this to their own family, who's gonna take care of them when they're old? Not their friends or pets. They live a sad, miserable and bitter life waiting for the government to do everything for them. When you look back you will pity them more then they hate you. You'll be well off with friends and family that love you and will make your later years more tolerable, thats what we should all strive to build up to, they get to bully and cancel one hour of a panel today, and live hell later on. It may be harsh but its true, when you choose hate you lose. Godbless Colin, I hope I get to keep listening to your work for a long time and maybe meet you in person one day

I'm very sorry you two have to go through this, it's complete garbage. I'm utterly appalled by how unprofessional the PAX team was about this situation. As a long time supporter and patron since day 1, I really appreciate you sticking up for your audience like this. It has always shown that you really do care.

John Quinn

I’m sorry you have to go through this. I just want to know why all these people think that you’re so evil. None of them explain any reason why they are doing this

Elias Salcedo

Can’t imagine how old this shit gets. It’s annoying enough just tangentially knowing about this treatment as a supporter. But safe to say, the community has Colin’s back. As somebody who lives in Washington, I was looking forward to the PAX panel...but now would love to just see them be brave enough to issue a valid explaination or reason for this. We’ll just wait and see.

Michael Ford

I've just increased my sub because of this. I'm in the UK, so would never be attending any Pax event anyway, but my blood has certainly been boiled by this one.

Sorry to hear about the panel Colin and Chris. That shit fucking sucks for you and everyone that was excited and planing to go see the Panel. I’d be furious if I had bought a ticket. The Pax people are really being the biggest cowards for not giving a straightforward reason. Also, let’s pay attention as to who DOES NOT mention any of this on their sites or videos, It’s so pathetic.

Jeff Caseres

Hi C and C. These passed events have caused me to subscribe to my first patreon. They have tried to shut you down for so long. It's just making you stronger. You are handling this with great poise and professional ism. As we say in Melb Australia. "Onyaaaa muaate".

kiNeMs

Thank you, Colin. It's kinda therapeutic or cathartic I guess to hear that you're just as frustrated with this situation as we are. I too am tired of seeing this audience bullied. I had a gentleman message me last night that he feels discarded and isolated in social media circles because he enjoys your content but there's this feeling like he should feel bad for enjoying it or be ashamed and that's fucking bullshit. No one should have to feel that way. I had several exchanges like that on Twitter last night. Calling people out for bullying. (I think you were even in a couple of them) anyway, just wanted to say we're here for you, we're in the trenches with you. Nothing but love and respect, dude.

Nate McKinney

Why would the podcast go away? It’s just this one time conference that he was uninvited to.

Just wanted to let you know I’ve been working the tweets and emails calling for them to at least give some sort KF explanation for this behavior. I also canceled my patreon support for KF since they couldn’t even be bothered to give this a mention in the Roper Report which they absolutely would have done if it were anyone else. I’ll be upping my subscription to your products this month Colin. Love your work.

Much love to you guys. Appreciate you sticking up for us. &lt;3

Steve Medina

I know You Might not be up for it. But If you Throw an Event in LA or host a Twitch Stream during Pax. I know me and many others would love to support you that way.

Honestly this is not that surprising living in the Bay Area the new hecklers veto on Twitter has become a real thing. Forcing people to do the right thing that they agreed to is just how things seem to work these days. Your audience knows who you are and will continue to support you, Chris and enjoy the great content your create on CLS.

James Galos

I am on the opposition of many things you stand for Politically. Which is why this pushed me to subscribe. Because you have every right to feel that way, and I also feel you have some of the best games coverage on the internet.

Keep your chin up Colin, this shit sucks massively but the best thing you can do is continue to be better than those who are trying to do wrong by you. Hope you two get some resolution.

Big Swingin' Rick

The invective I see against you over simple political differences always shocks me. The malevolent panic that seems to manifest whenever people think you might be accepted and treated as a human being is wildly unbelievable. It is simply an adolescent, societal poison. I'm praying for you, sir. Take care.

Carlos Quintanilla

Just wanted to reach out and say sorry about what has happened and to say that I love you guys.

I want to be wrong but this sounds like some kinda funny fall out from over two years ago. Grow up people.

larry Seitz

Increased pledge. Fuck those guys.

I've always been a fan of yours Colin. After the events of the previous 24 hours, I will always be in your corner.

Joel Peterson

As the great Nick Hexum once said, "Fuck the naysayers cuz they dont mean a thing..."

Josh Moore

As a supporter since day 1 and a big fan of Fireside Chats, I'll be bummed if the podcast goes away as its led to some eclectic, fascinating conversations. However I totally understand your safety concerns and we as your fans are grateful that you've invited us into your home for so many episodes. If Fireside Chats does go away, is there a possibility the political podcast with Jeff Cannata will be its replacement? I know you were considering replacing FSC with that podcast last year.

GentleFan

Hey Colin. I’m a big fan of knock back and fireside, occasional sacred S listener. Never heard of pax and I never will again. Content is king. Let whoever caused this be petty.

Dan Kolber

Much love and respect to you Colin. You've got plenty of support from everyone here.

Ross Joseph

This whole thing is sickening, Im sorry for you guys.

Colin, this is my first ever comment here. I've been following you for about 6 years now and will continue as long as you put out content. Please don't let that shit get to you! There are so many people who like/love your style and to whom you constantly bring joy. I'm a European and politically way more left than you and still you are my favorite internet personality. I just wanted to let you know that you have die-hard fans in that spectrum too! Don't let them get you down!

My heart broke several times during this hearing the sadness creep into Colin's voice. He's a man that is determined to fight and stand for ideals no matter what, but the loneliness that can bring is overwhelming at times. I'm not going to be even moderately coherent or eloquent in this comment because I have felt those ways before for various reasons, so I know that pain. It is effecting me in the way something can only when you have been through it. Colin, don't let yourself be swayed. Don't let yourself be dissuaded from fighting. Don't let yourself give in. I wish I could convey how big I smiled when I heard you say "Fuck That!" in regards to giving even an inch to the people who want to see you shatter. That's all it takes. Finding your fuck you.

Proud to finally be a Patreon Producer for CLS, as a longtime follower of Colin's work. This PAX thing is infuriatingly unjust, but it's been heartwarming to watch the community rally!

Captain Canada

Colin, thank you for going out of your way to record this podcast for us during such a stressful time. It means a lot. Keep fighting, stay strong. We’ve got your back.

Luke Douglas

I actually thought Altano's appearance on Fireside chats as a bit insulting. It didn't seem like he came on the show to hear Colin's side of things, it seemed like he was there to brow beat the shit out of him. Seemed like he had an obvious agenda to white night, and perpetuate the fiction that Colin is a bigot. He framed the conversation in such a way that Colin had to admit wrong doing or look like a jackass. Maybe he felt by in doing so, he was clearing Colin's name or something? I can't be sure, but I thought it was a pretty hollow gesture to be honest. Could be reading the whole situation wrong, I don't really know the nature of their relationship, but I haven't really seen Altano ever once come to Colin's defense.

Jonny K.

Sorry this happened to you and Chris. Hope we get some kind of explanation soon. Ridiculous.

Seth Zentner

I just now started the episode but I saw twitter the other day. I wanted to mention for the record that your email to the PAX team was incredibly professional. Not the biggest of compliments, but it’s easy in these situations to lose your shit - and you were dignified. Well done buddy.

Michael Schofield (making Audio Dramas)

Love you Colin, stay strong. &lt;3

Garry

What a shame. We are here for you, C&amp;C!!

Ryan Garcia

Hell yeah it was. Mad props to Jaffe for doing what no one else in games will: being supportive in front of everyone.

Jason Stafford

Hey Colin, fan of your work, and greatly appreciate the eclectic nature of fireside chats. I've been making my way through the backlog, and I respect the journey the chats take people on. That being said, I comprehend the concern you have bringing people into your home. I hope that if you wish to discontinue the "in-person" chats that you will consider coordinating the chats remotely. I realize this will diminish the personable nature of the current content, but I firmly believe in the value the chats produce, and I think that in this case, "a half a loaf is better than no loaf at all". I know there is little financial incentive, as the chats are the lowest power cast you do, but I hope you'll consider keeping them alive for the way they open unique perspectives and stories up to the world. Appreciate your hard work, and wish you and yours well. I'm sorry for this recent turn of events, and want to add my voice to those others who appreciate what you do.

James McGivern

Hate to say this but it is no surprise to see that leftist people do the exact thing that they preach against. They preach accepting of all and supporting people of all walks. Then when it doesn’t match their beliefs they harass and bully others finding humor in the same things they play victim to. Sorry about this Colin you do not deserve the BS that is thrown your way. It just really makes me lose my faith in society that people that are such hypocrites can sway the powers that be. I hope the conversations you do should continue maybe at a more public place if possible. I really enjoy those and this stuff just makes my support for you even stronger. All the best to you and all the team. Thanks Colin.

Eric S

I really hope I can get a refund. Literally absurd this even happened. Me and several friends bought passes just for the panel

Vinny Pepperoni

Created a patreon today to support you. Cannot believe PAX

Max Davis

Listening to this was a weird experience. Col is so riled up and unedited, it's incredibly satisfying. You've been fucked over so many times and for both good reason, I've been following you since you were first in beyond and I've followed your career ever since. Fuck pax. Even if they give some sort of bullshit reason I say we tell them to go fuck themselves. You and Chris made an amazing podcast. Honestly I didn't think anyone could beat you and Greg but Chris is my boy. We all love you guys and we are going to have your back, you can count on that. Keep up the good work

Gruntbox Wizard

I was going to go... but now I just want to boycot anything PAX.

Michael Renner

i say we all contribute to rent out a place and have our own panel

John Rossi

It's all good, homie. We out here.

Dr. Peter Venkman

Hi Colin, I started supporting you at KF, I followed you to CLS the day it started, and I’ll continue to support you for as long as your Patreon exists. I’m writing this because I care about you. If I didn’t I wouldn’t bother. I love your podcasts and each week they require my immediate attention whereas most others hit the backlog. Every Tuesday at 12 I’m refreshing my feed to load a new episode of SS. You are a podcasting treasure and put on a better show than any other gaming outlet out there. That said, the person that I listen to for hours at a time every single week is not the same vibe I get from your Twitter. As someone without a twitter, I don’t frequently read your posts. But every now and then I go down a rabbit hole and see some of the stuff you post. Now, as someone without a Twitter, I don’t exactly like social media. I’m only 25 but I feel like you sometimes, an old man. And that makes me wonder why you bother with the site in the first place. I don’t think 280 words (or whatever it is) are a good platform for anyone. That’s why I listen to podcasts like yours or Giant Bomb’s. They go on for hours sometimes and allow the listener to get a real intimate look into someone’s persona. Someone they can relate to. But your Twitter persona is NOT you. It’s not someone I relate to and I’m betting that the majority of your most loyal followers feel the same way. “The Tweet” was fine. It was funny. I’m sorry it turned your world upside down. But a lot of the stuff on your Twitter is annoying and petty. (This obviously doesn’t include when you ask models about their opinions on the Vita, that shits hilarious.) But frankly I think you can be inflammatory on Twitter towards those that disagree with you. Take your recent argument with Brian Altano. You had a long, beautiful discussion on Fireside chats (RIP) like a year ago. I thought the two of you really put your hearts out there and it made your listeners love you even more. Then on Twitter recently you lowered yourself into yet another petty argument. You’re better than that. Now, onto PAX. It’s unfair to your listeners that they canceled you after asking you to promote their show. I think they’re in the wrong but that doesn’t necessarily mean you’re in the right. You’ve been inflammatory AGAIN on twitter regarding your panel at PAX. This one woman who attacked you recently and was in the wrong initially. But by engaging with her and asking her to your show to ask a question is, objectively speaking, asking for a problem. Think about it, you’re asking one woman to walk into a room filled with your most loyal followers to insult them and yourself. Does that sound like a good idea? I hope you read this. I imagine you will because you read everything. I just want the best for you and the community. Best, Sean

Sean P.

I am thankful for you and what you stand for, Colin. If we take a step back and look at this picture: the likelihood is that Colin, Chris and those of us in our community who committed time and money to attend a convention to chat about PlayStation - were given the equivalent of Charlie Brown and the football. Why? Colin and Chris share opinions on social media that anger some people in games "journalism", ergo the response is to throw a tantrum until their panel about video games is cancelled so they can post gifs of Nelson Muntz pointing and saying, "Ha-ha!". A. What are they, twelve? And 2. The hell ever happened to common sense, common decency and spending your free time on things you enjoy rather than peeing in everyone's proverbial Cheerios? I hope the pendulum of society finally starts swinging back towards the way of respectful discourse in the coming decade as opposed to 2019's current Pee-Wee state of "I know you are but what am I?!", because this Pax nonsense is bat crap crazy. If your fragile little mind can't handle a popular video game podcast having a panel at Pax, don't whine about it on Twitter...go see a psychiatrist. Jesus. Thank goodness for CLS in this sea of online insanity.

Luke Tucker

Sorry this happened to you dude :/

Brett Medlock

I’ve been a fan of both Colin and Greg for a decade. Colin should be like a well respected senior member of the gaming community. This is a friggin slap in the face. I literally just don’t get it.

If anything, maybe the positive in this this is that’s its just going to make this community and fan base continue to bond and grow stronger. The SJW culture is so absurd and it’s beyond transparent what is happening here. I’ve been a Colin supporter for years and a part of me is hoping against hope that the guys at Kind of Funny come to Colin’s defense here. In the meantime, I’m also upping my monthly pledge and I’ve convinced a few friends to jump on board. Stay strong C&amp;C... it’s obvious your fan base is 1000% behind you and isn’t going anywhere.

Jason Vanover

Thank you for everything you do Colin! We got you!

Listening to this is so frustrating. I'm so sorry for the shit you've had to wade through the past 2-3 years. Don't let it get you down, they're not worth your time. Plenty of people love you and will follow you regardless of where you go (in a non-stalker way, ideally). I sincerely hope your Patrons increase because of this. Stay positive and keep doing what you love.

Jason Bolla

Stay strong my friend. We're here for you.

Jared Lainhart

In my opinion, Colin, Chris, and the whole CLS cast and crew are doing an impressive job. I hope that this doesn't discourage your drive, Colin. Love and kindness from Canada, Prince

Prince Borutski

This is fucked up. I don’t understand brother. I was glad to see you guys had an opportunity to go out there for you guys and the audience. I just don’t get it. It sucks. I’m sorry. Be well.

Blair Sutton

This is incredible.... Unbelievable.

Shawn Hayden

I am going to do the only thing in my power. I am going to up my tier for CLS. Worth every penny and I want to do anything I can to support Colin. PAX can go fuck itself.

Colin as I said to you on twitter how much do I need to invest into finding a nice hall to book for y’all around here. Just give me the word and I’ll make it happen. Far to long have 12 weirdos on twitter lied and slandered and reveled in your down cast but it’s time for us as a whole to show them we can be bigger

Adamthm

I'm a liberal CLS fan, and this is unacceptable. Colin keep up the good work man.

Fynn

Thanks for sharing this. This community has your back 👍 Keep doing what you're doing.

Ben Williams

Pax and their organizers are fucking pathetic, weak willed assholes. They don't deserve us, and we don't deserve their disrespect. I will back you until the end Colin, aa much aa I would for my immediate friends.

Smokey Joh

Sue em!

I'm saddened more than I'm angry at this whole thing. I hate corruption, and what Pax did was exactly that. Corruption. It is what it is and it's not ok. Not there, not anywhere.

Dav9834

I have nothing else to add here other than I'm excited there's another Crone here. Not a common name and all. Anyway, take care!

Phil Crone

Very disappointed in PAX. I’ve been listening to Colin since he joined Beyond and I have followed him since. I just moved to Seattle and this was my chance as a huge fan to attend a live event to see my favorite podcaster. I don’t get anyone’s beef with him. I consider myself a liberal too and I haven’t had a problem with anything he has said ever nor Chris. I love them both. The hit was definitely in on him before, and it’s definitely in on him now. Love you Colin, fuck this shit.

Caleb Peacock

David Jaffe’s video was great.

Forrest Hunter

I just doubled my monthly Patreon contribution. I know it’s not much. I told you previously I skew left of center. But most importantly, I believe in free speech and civil discourse of ideas from all sides. This is totally fucked up. You’ve always been considerate to your detractors and have facilitated good and rational discussion. Hang in there man. I know that sounds hollow but you and Chris have a lot of fans that look forward to your content

Dennis Sparta

I appreciate you taking the time to record this. It’s just so frustrating. It was so refreshing to see you and Chris were approved for a panel. I was thinking, maybe, just fucking maybe there are still some level headed people out there and a fair playing field in this industry. But I guess not. Not only is this in itself complete horse shit, but the ripple effect of having to potentially end one of your shows because of the deranged people out there is so disappointing. I completely understand why you feel that way. You’re always going to have my support, Colin.

Richard Duflo

Colin first off, the people in power at PAX can go fuck themselves. This is absolutely absurd and you deserve an explanation. Secondly, for those who were planning on going to PAX for Sacred Symbols and are having trouble getting refunds I feel for you too and hope you can get refunded. As for FireSideChats, I definitely think you should reconsider the podcast. I wouldn’t feel safe inviting people into my house. It’s fucked up that this is the way things are right now. I don’t understand what you ever did to anyone, but these people coming at you seem crazy. And you can’t reason with the insane. And I would recommend doing the pod remotely, although I know you don’t like doing that. But don’t allow anyone to ever get the chance to endanger you or your loved ones. Keep your chin up Colin, you have a life-long fan in me and I’ll always have your back. Don’t let the minority drag you down with them.

James Aquilina

This sucks that you are even having to consider cancelling one of your shows over concerns for you and your loved ones' safety. I always thought it was really awesome and unique how you opened up your home to your guests on fireside chats, all without requiring your guests to pledge at a high tier to be on the show. It seems like you would choose your guests purely based on if you thought the content would be interesting to your audience. It really sucks that you may be forced to take that away, but just know that we understand why you may have to make that choice.

Greg Ohlenforst

You don't need to be at these events for us. Those of us who have been following you since IGN know how you feel about them and we understand. We aren't going anywhere.

Oliver

If you ever plan on doing a live Sacred Symbols, independent of any show or convention, I'd drive to LA to see it. I'm sorry that you're caught up in this Orwellian political machine once again. But I hope it doesn't prevent you from doing a show for your fans. If someone showed up to try and hurt you, we'd all have your back. Take it easy, Colin.

Patrick A Crone

What a shame. As an east coaster I had always looked for a reason to go to PAX West, or some sort of event on the west coast. Having Sacred Symbols at PAX West was enough of a reason to convince me to go. I'm glad I've been busy and haven't requested any time off or booked anything. While I'm sure I would have enjoyed the event as a whole, knowing that they'd treat someone this way was enough to make me reconsider. I won't knowingly support such shameful behavior, and I hope others reconsider as well. The part of all this that truly hurts is that situations like this as well as threats of violence have led you to step back from fireside chats. I have been fascinated with FC since its inception. It has been a source of cultural enlightenment, useful knowledge, deep belly laughter, and failures to fight back tears. The premise was wild: invite someone into your home to have a conversation about, well, anything really, from dog grooming to constitutional rights. I'd always considered getting in touch with you to see if I could come on to talk about dredging, as it's something you had made off hand comments about, usually stemming from Dredge, the band. It's sad to know that I won't have that chance, but I completely understand your decision to protect yourself and those you care about. I appreciate a lot of the work you and everyone else does at CLS. Above all, don't let them grind you down.

Matthew Thomas Andrews

Fuck pax. Fuck these people. I’m sorry this happened to you.

GameSimp

Fuck them... Weak minded fools

The Kaptain

Damn, that's really unfortunate. Very messed up for everyone who had made plans and put out money already. And Colin, do not listen to Twitter haters. Words like nazi, racist, fascist, sexist have lost all meaning today, they only mean that you disagree to the right politically. The intolerance of modern progressives is astonishing, they will stop at nothing to silence anyone who disagrees with them. Conservatives and true liberals are the actually tolerant ones now. We must not let ourselves be silenced by modern progressives. Keep CLS going strong!

Matthew Cooper

Keep up the great work! All your shows are a big part of my week, every week.

Ever since this news I have been so disheartened not only for me but for you and the family we have here. It's so sickening and disrespectful. Like I said on Twitter luckily I haven't confirmed my payments for Pax but I did in Vacation time but that's not as bad as those who have paid money. It's also only a few hour drive from me and would've been a dream to meet you. The world isn't over yet and hopefully this garbage towards you, me, and the fans stop. Love ya Col.

Marcus Brown

&lt;3

Jeff Pollard

Screw them then. Their loss

Adam Thiry

Colin I know that live shows aren’t your thing but I’d really encourage you to not let this be the end of your efforts of appearing publicly and giving us fans a chance to meet you and all the other wonderful people you work with face to face. Again I know being in public isn’t your thing (I don’t blame you) but I think doing something yearly, even if it’s more private and and smaller scale could be a really really cool idea. Don’t let this get to you brother. If this scares you away from doing anything they win! Don’t let them win! As always Collin we all love you and appreciate all the hard work that you put in to make this stellar content. Keep it up man!

Austin

I just wanted to let you know that after being a long time freeloader, i became a patreon thanks to this shit show from PAX.

Really sorry to hear about this Colin, totally unfair. Don't sweat it though, we aren't going anywhere!

Captain Canada

2D con may be good venue. Pretty chill atmosphere. Lots of Indy game studios showing off stuff.

Barrel Titor

A lot of people on PAX’s Twitter asking for answers.

Forrest Hunter

We are here for you Colin.

Hey Colin, RIP Sacred Symbols live show. I have a simple question for you- with the "potential" deplatforming still fresh in your mind, do you ever intend on seeking to do live shows at any other conventions in the future? There are dozens of smaller conventions annually happening in California and I think there is enough demand from your fans. If not sacred symbols, then maybe you and Dagan could ponder doing a KnockBack live show at a geeky convention. Keep at it, Jack

Jack Sibert

I saw the the threats on Twitter and it honestly breaks my heart. No one deserves that. Thank you for welcoming me into your home and showing me hospitality, Colin. I understand why that may no longer be possible. Please be safe.

Collin Sparling

I was surprised they even gave you a panel to begin with, and not at all surprised they cancelled it. This is what happens when you don't have the Correct Ideasℱ 2019 Edition of group think.

Cheese Technology

About the topic of intersectionality you touched on. It seems readily apparent to me that they don't actually care about skin color, gender or sexual preference. They care about ideology and everything else is just a mask.. this is why people outside it are called not true (insert race, gender, etc etc)

Never been to a PAX and I certainly don't intend to waste my time and money there now (I always get asked to go to PAX East by my streamer friends.) You've let us into your life and family for years now and I hope I speak for everyone when I say you gotta do what you gotta do to keep yourself and your family well.

Jayce Tamulevich

Sorry you had to this happen to you. I know it sucks when you put yourself out there and things seem to get worse. I encourage you to stay strong. Anyone who has ever met you knows your real character. Don’t give the bullies the gift of giving up.

Kristofer Hall

You guys are too metal for them.

Joel Blair

I think it's pretty obvious that PAX found out about the baby sacrifices that fuel the show, and therefore were uncomfortable with having a baby sacrificed on stage before the show at PAX.

Matthew Skora

This fucking sucks, Colin. It's not fair, and when you talked about the whole 'unpersoning' angle it made me viscerally angry. It's not right, because you're incredibly kind and respectful and nothing they say about you is true. If I was in the US at the time of PAX, I would have loved to meet you again and I'm sad that other CLS fans don't get to now. As for your comments about Fireside Chats, that made me even more sad. FC holds a special place in my heart. I've cried when the show got emotional, I've had deep conversations with people about topics from the show, and when you responded to my message and invited me on, I was so incredibly grateful for your interest and trust and it was the singular reason I bought a plane ticket to LA. But I think you're right, it's fucking wild to think about how someone could abuse that trust and try to cause you or yours any harm. I do hope you find a way to continue to connect with your audience in such a deep way - I think it's one of the most special and interesting things about CLS - without exposing yourself too much. Maybe some sort of remote video or audio chat situation, like Rubin sometimes does or that one episode of KnockBack you did with Dagan (it wasn't even noticeable that you weren't in person.) If people buy plane tickets to come and get the chance to talk with you, they for sure would get a Blue Yeti or something to record audio. Anyway Colin, thank you for being so genuine with your audience as always and just know that we will always support you.

Connor Rhude

Hey I messaged you, but if you are still headed to Seattle, let me know. I can help find a location here! Sad to see this. Not sure how to help but I want to.

Luke Farinella

This is really terrible man. Listening to you all the way from South Africa and will always be a supporter!

I don’t have a twitter account so I can’t express support over there, but remember the resiliency of your audience as well as yourself in the past. We love you Colin, and like Dagan said, you’ll come out stronger on the other side- you always have. I know you aren’t religious, but I’m praying for you and your family.

Ryan B.

The petty bullshit you have to put up with blows my mind. I'd like to believe that these people are all talk and that they'd fold like a deck of cards if they weren't able to hide behind the Internet, but I guess you can't be too careful these days. It sucks to see the people I used to look up to go out of their way to treat you like garbage.

Jimmy Champane

Even I wasn't able to attend because you're on the wrong side of the country for me, this is still a damn shame on principal alone.

David Graham

This actually pisses me off. The people that ruined this are the worst kind of bottom feeding scum.

Dennis Parker

this shit makes me tear up.. its so infuriating seeing the unfair treatment of something so harmless and something that brings much joy to our hearts

Gage Lamp

Colin I'm hoping for the best with this whole situation. I also hope you dont let this discourage you from arranging a similar panel at another time. I feel like those who wanted you cancelled win if so. Regardless, you have my support and I wish you well.

MrMilk

I don’t get it. There’s nothing even slightly offensive about Sacred Symbols. Why anyone would want you deplatformed for hosting a light hearted gaming podcast is beyond me.

This is fucking infuriating. Such a good dude like you being treated as if you’re a Nazi is enough to make a chill man’s blood boil. I’m sure you know this, but I’ll say it anyway: this isn’t your fault, man, and you haven’t done a goddamned thing wrong. We all love you.

Forrest Hunter

I dont have social media for obvious reasons mainly the type of people that are cheering on this bullshit. i’m just hearing about this now and looking at colins twitter for more info before listening to this. and the amount of people trying to make this seem logical and chastising people for sympathizing with colin disgusts me and just puts the nail in the coffin as to why i had to get off social media almost entirely i hope this all gets explained at the very least and just know all your fans and patrons love you colin

Gage Lamp

Yeah this is getting outrageous. These gaming folk are the biggest baby dweebs on Earth. Sorry to the community for the nonsense.

Erk-Prime

Like everyone here I’ve been upset about this. I know you’d never do a meet up, but part of me hopes you, Chris, and Dagan do a meetup or panel of some kind out here in NYC or tristate area. We’d never cancel you out here bro.

Kenneth Oms

I'm honestly so angry for you man. None of it is justified, and the people on Twitter revelling in it obviously seem to have no backbone or genuine reason to dislike you other than gang-up culture. I disagree with you on certain political issues, your awful pronounciation of snooker and other small stuff all the time. But anyone who actually properly listens to you knows you're a decent dude. And the panel would have been great for you and the more local audience. Keep your head up dude!

Thank you for trying guys. The situation really sucks.

Or aint that a sack of shit

Anthony Alexander

Wow aint that some bullshit

Anthony Alexander

Try not to dwell on the haters, remember your fans will always support you.

Brandon Lahood

I've been following this on your Twitter. Pretty shitty of them. Sorry Collin. I remember on SS how you said you were surprised they gave you a panel. I hope this doesn't discourage you from trying to do things like this in the future. I was at your live PS I Love You show at PSX 2016. I hope I'll be able to see SS live one day.

Leroy Anderson

Other than the old tweet, what/who do you think could have caused this cancellation? I understand if you don't want to name drop fools, but I would love to hear your thoughts on the possible causes for this ridiculous cancellation. P.S. You have a ton of support from us fans, and always will! Don't let the bastards get you down.

Cody Jewell

Deeply concerned and sad about this. I hope they give you their reasons sooner rather than later. Thanks for always being upfront with your audience. Love you guys!

I'm so upset about this entire situation. It's so unfair to you and anyone who bought tickets to see you guys. Pax better do what's right in this situation and refund everyone. What a joke.

Addiholic

This whole situation is a fucking disgrace. A disgrace. We can always count on you Col and Chris. We love you.

Andy T

Indeed, thanks for the heads up --- I was going to buy plane tickets this week. This is nonetheless obnoxious, hope this doesn't deter you from making an appearance elsewhere.

Colin, simply, thank you.

Zac Stracener

Absolute fkn JOKE my man.

Keith Cook

Remember when gaming was about community and inclusion? Good times.

Brad

The fact you tried for your fans is better than any panel could be.

Daniel short

More like PAX of liars? Am I right? 😂

Love you man!

Steve

Thanks for cranking this out so quickly.

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