Should We (or Shouldn't We) Move Sacred Symbols' Record and Release Dates?
Added 2020-04-14 16:01:02 +0000 UTCHey!
As promised on Episode 94 of Sacred Symbols, Chris and I want to let you -- our beloved audience -- vote on if we should move the podcast's record date from Monday to Thursday, and our publish date from Tuesday to Friday each week.
The reason? Well, our current recording schedule has us missing some news each week (forcing you to wait until the following week), a problem especially pronounced for our "freeloader" listeners. It is true, however, that this problem will still exist in an alternative schedule; the problem will just present differently. This is only the second time we've come for you for this kind of advice. Long-time listeners will remember that we asked you if we should keep reading games releases or not (the overwhelming answer was "yes," if that wasn't already obvious).
There isn't a right or wrong answer, here... we simply wanna know what you think. Whatever you decide, we will do. You only have two choices, so pick carefully!
(To be clear, the choices below are from the perspective of $5+/month Patrons; that is, we currently record on Monday, publish for $5+/month Patrons on Tuesday, and publish for all on Friday. Changing would mean recording on Thursday, publishing for $5+/month Patrons on Friday, and publishing for all on Monday. If we change, Sacred Symbols+ would necessarily move from publishing on Friday for $5+/month Patrons and Monday for $1+/month Patrons to publishing on Tuesday for $5+month Patrons and on Friday for $1+/month Patrons. Got all that?)
We will reveal the results on Episode 95 (though you'll be able to see said results for yourself rather easily before that), and, if necessary, we'll begin adjusting our schedule starting with Episode 96.
Have at it!
Comments
Hey Colin, I have 100% successfully avoided ANY TLoU2 spoilers for weeks until coming to your Patreon today and seeing this comment. This is really disappointing. It shocked my chest like when you're about to get into a car crash. Obviously, it's NOT your fault; it's mine. I thought this might be the one place that would be curated enough to be able to browse comments, but I'm sure you simply can't keep up with it. It's too late for me now, but please delete this fucking bullshit to prevent someone else from experiencing this horrible feeling.
Dave Carsley
2020-05-29 23:09:20 +0000 UTCJoel dies
2020-05-11 20:25:03 +0000 UTCGlad to see Colin overriding the poll based on the suggestions presented...my question is...how is Colin gonna have 2 spoilercasts up by the 28th when he hasn’t finished either of the games? ...nothings worse than a rushed play through to meet an episode deadline. DOOM is actually an unpleasant game to rush and will actually leave you uneasy-at least that’s how I felt playing in the evenings. I read Colin’s tweet that he might need to hold back SS+ cuz of some shit he dealing with...he should just swallow his pride and not record for a week and reset. Why the hell not?
Joseph Tartaglia
2020-04-24 12:44:28 +0000 UTCIt has happened every week for a month now and happened many times before that. Sony usually releases news on Tuesdays
Ben Williams
2020-04-21 14:22:57 +0000 UTCHave you guys seen a trend in when breaking news comes out? Like when you've been caught with a story that broke before you recorded, has it happened more often on one particular day of the week?
2020-04-20 08:07:39 +0000 UTCI agree with most others that I can’t understand the benefit of not moving. Publishing so early in the week means you miss the latest news and we have to wait a week to hear you guys’ thoughts, at which point there’s more pressing news you’re late on again. There is no compelling argument for keeping it on Tuesday’s, except that people don’t want it to change. “I don’t come here for breaking news” is not a valid argument.
2020-04-20 01:40:30 +0000 UTCDon't speak for other people.
2020-04-19 18:29:44 +0000 UTCDon’t think it matters too much, I doubt most people would be that particular about the day, at least if they’re anything like me and have lots of podcasts to get through 😊
Joe Piervincenti
2020-04-19 09:42:52 +0000 UTCSince it's so close, it might be worth it to temporarily try it for a couple weeks or just a month, see if people like it, then have a re-vote. As is, it'll be difficult for us to know. You have people afraid of change and some making assumptions. Having us try it will fix that.
Roush
2020-04-19 03:28:58 +0000 UTCKEEP TUESDAYS GREAT
MarkGrouch
2020-04-19 01:45:18 +0000 UTCI just don’t see how the people who want the original Schedule have anything to lose if we moved to later in the week. Watch the show later, that’s way better covered and more current. I’m tired of getting a recap of C&C from stuff I already have seen at nauseam from ign, gamespot, Sony directly, YouTube channels that move way faster. It’s unfair to Sacred Symbols as a business. Please change the schedule. It’s the right move.
Dillan Damodar
2020-04-19 01:22:13 +0000 UTCSnap
Mr Damien Steer
2020-04-18 17:54:44 +0000 UTCappreciate the point you’re making, but think this point is actually a non-sequitur because big releases either happen on Fridays or Tuesday (and more often on Tuesdays), so we’ll end up with lag time on games either way.
Micah Owens
2020-04-18 17:54:31 +0000 UTCI totally get that many people have already worked this into their schedules and don’t want it to change, but it’s a fact that most news is published in the Tuesday-Thursday period during the week, which means even the paid tier is usually hearing discussions about last week’s news. The reality is that you simply can’t say Sacred Symbols is the best PlayStation podcast if it’s consistently 1-2 weeks behind on news for most listeners (those on free feeds). I think the new P.S. I Love You has really stepped up the competition and made this clear. I don’t think changing the recording date is the only way to fix this (as other podcasts have found other ways to monetize besides the time gate), but it’s certainly an option. Also for the record, I’m still in the free tier mostly because (A most of the + episodes are about topics that don’t really interest me, but also B) not a lot of gaming podcasts come out on Friday’s so the free tier comes out at a great time. I’d switch over to paid in a heartbeat if it meant new episodes came out on Thursdays or Fridays.
Micah Owens
2020-04-18 17:45:07 +0000 UTCI can't stress enough that regardless of the outcome the good in moving outweighs the good in not. By a lot. What more do you need?
Mr Damien Steer
2020-04-18 16:03:24 +0000 UTCI think the podcast will grow and reach a bigger audience if it reacts to the weeks news and events in a more timely matter. It just makes more sense in my opinion.
2020-04-18 15:02:46 +0000 UTCI hope you move. I wonder if people are just afraid of change.
Roush
2020-04-18 06:10:03 +0000 UTCPlease move!
2020-04-18 02:13:08 +0000 UTCDefinitely move. I can’t believe it’s this close
Dennis Parker
2020-04-18 01:57:56 +0000 UTCNews drops from Monday to Thursday with rare exceptions so recording Thursday makes sense if you want to be current. But I don’t think many people listen to SS as their breaking news source so do whatever fits in your schedule better.
Michael Cline
2020-04-18 00:48:11 +0000 UTCDefinitely move. It's way more logical from a business sense and you guys would get more viewers and subs from those people who want their news right away. I lost count how many times news came out on a wednesday or thursday especially only for you guys to talk about last weeks topics that is very old news at that point
So Excited
2020-04-17 23:57:02 +0000 UTCDon't change, The drop is on Friday. You start recording on Thursday then you're going over games that have been out all week. I get immediate news from SpawnWave, then I get your commentary later on, works well. I don't need you guys to be breaking the news, we've got people that upload on the daily for that.
2020-04-17 23:36:35 +0000 UTCVery excited for the console image of the PS5 to drop on a Tuesday and having to wait 11 days to hear Colin’s and Chris’s thoughts on it because 1,500 people out of the 50k weekly listenership are afraid of change.
YaBoyStevieJay
2020-04-17 22:22:18 +0000 UTCI don't see how keeping on Tuesdays makes any sense. Friday would ensure we get that week's news, and + can replace that Tuesday slot since it's supposed to be less topical anyway.
Evan Bederman
2020-04-17 19:26:25 +0000 UTCJust vote for Friday
Evan Bederman
2020-04-17 19:24:55 +0000 UTCChange it because I stopped listening to the podcast when it started missing news.
Mason Mitchell
2020-04-17 18:19:18 +0000 UTCEasy Allies also had this predicament - they moved to record on Thursdays and haven't missed a big news story since. Seems like people want to keep how it is now, but I've seen it be better with other podcasts.
2020-04-17 17:42:58 +0000 UTCLet's break this down by tier: $5 patrons: Pros- SS covers news more quickly after it drops, allowing SS+ to cover less pressing, evergreen topics Neutral- You still get a podcast on Tuesday and Friday Cons (debatable)- If for some reason you prefer listening to SS on Tuesday and SS+ on Friday, you need to. either adapt or wait $1 and $2 patrons: Pros- News goes from at most 11 days old to at most 6 days old, and SS+ can be more ancillary topics Neutral- You still get a pod Tuesday and Friday Cons- If for some reason you prefer news on Friday, you need to wait or adapt Freeloaders: Pros- News goes from at most 11 days old to at most 6 days old Cons- If for some reason you prefer news on Friday, you need to wait or adapt As you can see the cons really only have to do with perception: whether you prefer news on a particular day. The irony is that if you do, you can just wait and still listen to the pod on the day that you like, and get the same exact experience. The biggest pro is that the pod is available earlier relative to the content it covers, and that is a massive pro. There simply is no reason not to change.
2020-04-17 13:36:43 +0000 UTCIt's all good asking us but from a business prospective this needs changing. You will be behind other outlets when it comes to breaking news. Collin got it bang on, record towards the end of the week when news has broke. Nothing happens over a weekend and is a silly time to record imo. Most of these votes will be out of a need to keep things simple for you guys and probably because they love you 'making Tuesdays great' that's lovely but not to the point where the news your covering becomes old and could eventually be costly. I love SS and want it to do great, hence my strong opinion.
Mr Damien Steer
2020-04-17 11:12:21 +0000 UTCGuys. It’s not a big deal. Colin will switch the show and the plus show. You’re still getting 2 shows. Plus this allows them to be more influential since it keeps them in the loop faster. Could also increase their pull in the industry. This is an easy YES. Change the dates.
Carlos Graziani
2020-04-17 10:35:05 +0000 UTCY'all have to move it to keep up with events. People voting against it are simply against change. How many times have you posted a new episode, only for something major to happen hours later?
Seraph Stray
2020-04-17 08:58:53 +0000 UTCHello, Awesome Colin and keepin it real Chris. Thank you for making my work commute much easier. I have thought to share regarding changing date for Sacred Symbols (SS) podcast.How about you keep SS podcast at original time but move Sacred symbol + thursday/friday timeline. That way whoever wants to get into discussion latest news right away,should contribute. But do discuss news on your regular SS podcast as well, so no-one feels left out ! Been a long time follower since IGN times.
Johnmaya
2020-04-16 21:53:54 +0000 UTChttps://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-16/sony-is-said-to-plan-limited-playstation-5-output-in-first-year
2020-04-16 21:50:03 +0000 UTCWhatever works best for the sacred symbols duo!
Brent Schafer
2020-04-16 15:53:06 +0000 UTCI am perfectly happy whenever you drop. As long as the podcast is there it's all good.
Jared Delbridge
2020-04-16 07:40:56 +0000 UTCis there "i don't care option"
2020-04-16 05:40:29 +0000 UTCSame here. I don't get my news from any podcasts. They're all later than the news for thoughts and the like.
Jimmy Valentine
2020-04-16 02:58:44 +0000 UTCIt seems Sony loves dropping news on Tuesdays now, so recording after then seems like the best option to me!
Frank
2020-04-16 02:47:47 +0000 UTCThe problem is Tuesday is a PlayStation day. PS news has dropped on Tuesdays ever since the days of Beyond
TheBufferPiece
2020-04-16 01:44:40 +0000 UTCI don’t mind if the latest news is missed for a week. I come for Colin and Chris’ take on the news. If the release day is changed that means in Australia I’ll get the episode on a Saturday instead of a Wednesday. I look forward to listening to the show each week while I’m working and if it come out on the weekend I would miss out. ☺️
Drew Agnew
2020-04-15 23:32:57 +0000 UTCThey should definitely move the recording schedule and I know Colin was talking about needing to remedy smoking weed and they just legalized it medicinally in VA!
2020-04-15 23:21:45 +0000 UTCI voted to keep it the way it is. I personally did not start listening to CLS podcasts to hear the news, I tune in to hear your take on the news, and no news is talked about properly right after it happens, there's no time to think, you don't get enough time to sit and change your views on it, and news is better talked about after you have had a good days rest, or maybe even 2 or 3. I think you give out so much content as it is that you're spoiling us anyway, I am personally not so selfish that I want you to change everything around just because I need instant satisfaction on the "news".
Jessica Gutiérrez
2020-04-15 22:46:52 +0000 UTCI dont know how much more evidence you need that sacred symbols keeps getting flanked by the news cycles than literally the day they posted the last episode Sony announced their giving everyone 2 games for free which makes the whole “Sony needs to be more philanthropic” discussion outdated even though it was less than a day old.
Thomas Connolly
2020-04-15 19:41:36 +0000 UTCI voted not to change but if you did I would say record Tuesday like you used to with Beyond. Most Playstation updates are on Tuesdays.
2020-04-15 19:37:13 +0000 UTCMonday.
Matthew Cheatham
2020-04-15 19:10:15 +0000 UTCI voted don't change. Colin gives so much content as it is so why change things.
Dread Fort
2020-04-15 18:11:27 +0000 UTCThis point doesn’t really work because Colin doesn’t read gaming news throughout the week and only preps the show a day before recording. Also, any topics that require particularly nuanced discussion are already covered in SS+. I want change because News that posts on a Monday evening before episode 93 recording won’t be covered for free loaders for 11 days until episode 94 posts.
Teny Kuti
2020-04-15 18:05:41 +0000 UTCIf the date for Sacred Symbols ultimately gets changed, when will it air on free-feeds for us Scallywags?
Nokeystothecity
2020-04-15 17:41:44 +0000 UTCI voted for don't change, but I would listen on any day - I really do not think it makes a difference as far as news etc
Ryan Hayman
2020-04-15 17:26:50 +0000 UTCI actually prefer a more distanced perspective on the news. I like this show because theres less knee-jerk reaction to news and events that happen a day or two ago, and more nuanced distanced perspective that Colin and Chris can have after theyre able to think and process news for at least a couple of days. IMO there's extremely little to be gained from moving the show. Also, recording early in the week lends the show more to a games discussion format as opposed to news. Since you're coming right off the weekend when you've assumedly been playing all the new games.
Jack Sibert
2020-04-15 17:01:39 +0000 UTCI’m afraid of change.
Doro Akechi
2020-04-15 15:44:54 +0000 UTCEXACTLY
Ben Williams
2020-04-15 14:32:25 +0000 UTCBut... We fear change! *Insert Wayne's world gif of Garth.*
2020-04-15 12:13:49 +0000 UTCYet again news came out just after posting. The free games on Play at Home initiative.
Lee Bull
2020-04-15 08:45:59 +0000 UTCJust my two cents but most big titles tend to release on Friday and you don't really get early copies these days so you'll be the one of the last gaming podcasts to cover the big new releases when they drop. On the current schedule you can get a comfortable amount of time with these releases before Monday rolls around to give your first impressions. When TLOU2 comes out I'll be listening to all the pods day 1 that are talking about the game while I'm playing it and I'm sure I'm not the only one that would do this
Bruce The Genetic Jackhammer Rando
2020-04-15 08:20:32 +0000 UTCI enjoy having knockback and sacred symbols on the current schedule as it gives me enough content all week long. I usually don’t have to wait to long for another episode of one of the shows. Having said that , if you and Chris think it’ll make the show better or in the very least an inkling it’ll be more informed then I’m cool with it. No real gripes. I guess it’ll make the end of the week better then on Tuesday the +Plus episode will hit. I could get used to Thurs/Fri/Tues , if I’m reading this right , for $5+ patrons like myself . As long as it doesn’t effect the taping of Knockback. Goodluck with whatever way you go.
Anthony Longo
2020-04-15 03:41:25 +0000 UTCI'm here for the takes not breaking news. I would argue being late also gives time for deeper analysis. CLS is like 20/20 of playstaion podcast. Let everyone else be that shitty news at 5. Sony also actively trolls CLS so any big news will be planned around the show to always make it late for CLS.
OrochiNewsTeam
2020-04-15 02:27:00 +0000 UTCHonestly, I'd like it moved simply because the main (longer) show is too close to Snark Tank. I know that's not why we're being polled here, but it's a bit too much to listen to in a day.
2020-04-15 01:46:57 +0000 UTCI really don't think it makes much difference, especially for people like me who often don't have time to listen to the show for a couple of days after they're published. I don't listen to podcasts for breaking news, I listen when I can and I appreciate your takes even if they're a few days late.
Watch Ergo Proxy
2020-04-15 01:06:44 +0000 UTCYou hit the nail on the head. And even if news breaks on a Tuesday (which it often does) then we're talking 10 days old for people below the $5 tier and a week old for everyone else. I think it would be an objective improvement to the show... if it's even possible for the show to get any better ;)
2020-04-15 00:58:09 +0000 UTCIn terms of news, the new method is the best way. It's been working well for Easy Allies.
2020-04-15 00:09:58 +0000 UTCDefinitely prefer it earlier in the week so I can listen at work. Since I’m in Aus if you recorded it late in the week it would be coming out on Saturday. If you know there is going to be news dropping a couple of days after recording I wouldn’t mind pushing back as a one off.
Sam
2020-04-14 23:48:39 +0000 UTCYeah shows fine the way it is.
Reuben Barrett
2020-04-14 23:41:18 +0000 UTCI think moving Sacred Symbols to Friday is a good idea. That would give you guys the ability to recap (most) of the news for the week. SS+ is still there to pick up any big news that was missed or just do its own thing. Either way, we still get a show on Tuesday and Friday. I'm okay with that.
Jeff Pollard
2020-04-14 23:40:58 +0000 UTCDoesn’t really matter to me. Do what works best for your schedules.
Winter
2020-04-14 22:47:51 +0000 UTCPersonally, as a paying Patron, I enjoy getting these at the start of the week so I can listen to them to and from work for the rest of the week. If you released on Friday, my commutes wouldn’t benefit as I don’t drive much on the weekends. But as others have said here- whatever is best for you and your audience. Keep doing what you do and it will be fantastic.
Tony Rivera
2020-04-14 22:43:01 +0000 UTCI voted don't change, but whatever is easiest on you
Alex Ball
2020-04-14 22:29:10 +0000 UTCThere's no perfect day, but most news for the week, especially news related to PS5 and XSX have been released mid week, so recording the podcast on Thursday should allow them best chance discuss most important news for that week.
TimberWolf0080
2020-04-14 22:27:38 +0000 UTCNah, Chris is right. Always gonna miss news so it doesn’t matter
Corbin
2020-04-14 22:21:31 +0000 UTCThis post had 69 likes and I left it there.
Caleb Greer
2020-04-14 22:19:51 +0000 UTCI'm indifferent on the change, would listen either way, BUT. Most PR hits are on m-thur, so recording on Thursday would make a lot more sense content/timeliness wise.
Greek Thunder
2020-04-14 22:16:09 +0000 UTC$5 tier patrons still get a SS podcast on Fridays and Tuesdays, just with the two shows flipped around. $1 Tier patrons still get a SS podcast on Monday and Friday, again just flipped. If you look at it that way, your weekly SS fix doesn't really change much at all other than the content discussed in the main show will be more up to date when they come out. I think this is a good idea. Freeloaders might get annoyed at not getting a Friday podcast anymore, but they will quickly get used to it with time.
TimberWolf0080
2020-04-14 22:07:35 +0000 UTCIt’s $5 a month
YaBoyStevieJay
2020-04-14 22:03:08 +0000 UTCI feel that a lot of news seems to not happen over the weekend. So it makes sense to capture the news at the end of the week. Rather than wait for next week to discuss the news.
Ryan Sherwood
2020-04-14 22:01:03 +0000 UTCIn a perfect world (for us at least. Can you imagine how much more work they'd have to do?😅)
2020-04-14 21:54:36 +0000 UTCThis one is no-brainer. They miss so much news by doing the Tuesday releases. If they record on Thursday and release on Friday, they cover everything except Friday’s news (and that’s usually a dead day for PR teams since it hugs the weekend).
Kyle Borchert
2020-04-14 21:48:38 +0000 UTCSeems to me as a freeloader that getting it on a Monday would be a great way to start my week. More importantly, it does seem like it'll do that little bit extra in making the episodes relevant.
2020-04-14 21:46:45 +0000 UTCThe change works best for freeloaders. If you don’t pay $5 a month, you’re essentially listening to Colin and Chris react to news that’s over a week old. If something breaks on a Wednesday, you’re not hearing a reaction until 9 days later. This poll will result in “don’t change” because people are inherently apprehensive to change regardless if the alternative is better. The fact that this is even being brought up at all indicates that a change is needed. If the schedule was fine as is, nobody would’ve suggested changing it.
YaBoyStevieJay
2020-04-14 21:37:35 +0000 UTCI'm happy either way but the last two times Sony has released PS5 info suggests it should be changed. Again, happy to listen to it whenever it comes out. I've just noticed a pattern starting to develop.
Brandon Hofer (Ho-fer)
2020-04-14 21:37:22 +0000 UTCHow about a daily show, that would solve all the worlds problems :)
Liam Fagan
2020-04-14 21:30:46 +0000 UTCChange the date. Recording towards the end of the week allow for a better chance of the guys catching most of the news. Playstation just announced its Play at Home initiative.
2020-04-14 21:20:10 +0000 UTCI dont see what changing the date, will do with the chance, of missing a big story. They could also Miss something, if they record it on Wednesday and Friday. So I say keep the date. Also i don't like change like this, and Tuesday is just not the same without my C and C fix.
Christian Chimera
2020-04-14 21:05:23 +0000 UTCNo man can eat 50 eggs
Ethan
2020-04-14 20:59:11 +0000 UTCKTG-KEEP TUESDAYS GREAT..NO COLLUSION
M0RR1S9
2020-04-14 20:57:46 +0000 UTCI don't have a strong preference, but voted for don't change. Just keep the show going and I'll be happy!
Matthew Cooper
2020-04-14 20:52:57 +0000 UTCLeave it as is. Thanks.
TrackyMatts
2020-04-14 20:48:04 +0000 UTCI agree that there's no perfect day to do it. But it seems like most of the major news comes on Tuesdays and Wednesdays. Not going to complain either way though!
2020-04-14 20:46:21 +0000 UTCWhy does everyone keep saying that you'll miss big news if you change it? When does news generally come out over the weekend? If you're in PR, you release new info during the week, probably Tuesday - Thursday. The fact that this is a consideration is because some MAJOR recent announcements have come right after recording and they've come out on Tuesday. Guarantee this wouldn't be a discussion if the schedule was already the other way around, which shows which is the right choice :)
Ben Williams
2020-04-14 20:29:02 +0000 UTCY’all don’t need to do anything. Y’all do enough for us. Naysayers can eat a corona cock
Derek Waechter
2020-04-14 20:25:53 +0000 UTCIf you change it, you will inevitably miss some other piece of news instead. If they can’t afford a $1 a month then they have bigger problems than missing news on your podcast. Don’t change.
2020-04-14 20:05:27 +0000 UTCI’m not voting. I want you all to do what best fits your lifestyle. It makes me happy knowing you guys are comfortable with your workflow.
gnawtyFOX
2020-04-14 20:03:05 +0000 UTCVoting for the change here. Too many things seem to slip through the cracks in the mid/later parts of the week and I'd prefer a more timely episode.
Heathen James
2020-04-14 19:18:58 +0000 UTCSwap em! Make the Main show a Friday release and the Patreon only Tuesday. That way everyone kinda gets what they want but things overall stay the same.
LaFlex
2020-04-14 19:10:27 +0000 UTCI vote that we change it once every 3-6 months just to keep everyone on their toes. Can't let you boys get complacent out here.
Eugene Lanzoni
2020-04-14 19:09:59 +0000 UTCI think you answered it for yourselves early in the post. Moving the recordings won’t fix the issue because there’s no set date for news. The news happens when it happens. I’m in a groove with Tuesday and Friday, and I’m fine with that. =)
Ian (616Entertainment)
2020-04-14 19:01:52 +0000 UTCI voted it for it but please keep it on Tuesdays. Provided that works for you and chris.
Sam
2020-04-14 18:54:31 +0000 UTCDo whatever is best for you and Chris.
Harley Carlson
2020-04-14 18:47:28 +0000 UTCI'm only a $2 patron, so I listen on Fridays. I'd prefer than waiting Until Monday. This show is my end of the week go-to
Ryan Zimm
2020-04-14 18:42:14 +0000 UTCDouble comment - Colin look at Baseball to help with your Average questioning- more at-bats brings down the score.
Erk-Prime
2020-04-14 18:40:09 +0000 UTCI think it's perfect honestly. Whatever important ps news ya'll cannot hit like right then right now on tuesday. It has a few days to marinade and USUALLY more news ends up coming out on said "breaking news" on tuesday. PLUS some tasty rumours and tidbits from multiple news sites sometimes come out on weekends. So its perfect, it isn't broke and does not need fixing. ..yall make Tuesdays great...dont stop
DonutSuplex
2020-04-14 18:39:58 +0000 UTCI only get high on Fridays and I enjoy listening to Sacred Symbols whilst I smoke. Don’t ruin my high
Moistescarjoe
2020-04-14 18:30:43 +0000 UTCBut then you aren't making Tuesdays great anymore and I don't knwo if I can handle that loss
Jose Horrach
2020-04-14 18:26:32 +0000 UTCSacred Symbols+ would be moved to Tuesday
Anthony Moreno
2020-04-14 18:01:16 +0000 UTCI chose to change to later in the week. I love the podcast but it always being a week behind has made me pay attention a lot less. By the time the podcast comes out you are talking about something that happened 6 days ago and has already been covered by numerous other outlets. I would bet that a large portion of your audience follows more than just your podcast in the gaming realm and by the time sacred symbols is out they have already heard your take from somewhere else. I understand that if the results are not unanimous that it will never change but it makes the most sense in my mind. Cheers and thanks for the entertainment.
2020-04-14 17:48:15 +0000 UTCI voted change. Especially since PS seems to keep dropping information on Tuesdays for some reason...
2020-04-14 17:46:04 +0000 UTCWe live in a 24/7 news cycle. There will never be a perfect day, just leave it the way it is.
2020-04-14 17:44:23 +0000 UTCI voted change - will the Plus episode be moved as well? I do agree with the news updates/inquiry of the show would change. Does it make the show longer or more in depth if it's moved?
Erk-Prime
2020-04-14 17:43:30 +0000 UTCYeah I think Friday would be better. Do SS+ on Tuesday’s, just switch them.
Dudley
2020-04-14 17:42:22 +0000 UTCI like the idea of the podcast Bering a weekly recap of the news, coming out on Fridays.
Prince Borutski
2020-04-14 17:36:02 +0000 UTCKeep it.
Owen
2020-04-14 17:34:07 +0000 UTCHe’s literally putting it to his patrons to vote.
Owen
2020-04-14 17:33:46 +0000 UTCPersonally EZA is why I don’t want him to change. Because I listen to both.
Owen
2020-04-14 17:32:52 +0000 UTCNo need to change, guys. There will always be some last minute news that got missed even if you change the recording date. IMHO, there's no need to always be the first. There's just way too much info, content, or just games in general. Just be genuine, and we'll be here.
BlueBomber
2020-04-14 17:25:24 +0000 UTCNever change, lads.
Ste Simpson
2020-04-14 17:25:22 +0000 UTCI lean to „keep it“ but I also wouldn’t really mind the change. Just keep making it great, no matter which day it is.
2020-04-14 17:20:16 +0000 UTCI'd prefer you keep your current schedule, cause as it stands, I like hearing you guys read out the new games on the (general) release date. And you're going to miss news whenever you record/post, so why move it now? I like that you guys can respond to news a little later, with more perspective, rather than jumping on it and having to constantly issue corrections or updates like the 24-hour news sites.
Daniel Mitchell
2020-04-14 17:16:24 +0000 UTC"Making Tuesday's Great"
Context Should Matter
2020-04-14 17:15:06 +0000 UTCI believe the part about Sony wholeheartedly.
Daniel Mitchell
2020-04-14 17:13:28 +0000 UTCI don’t see the point of moving when breaking news, especially now, isn’t consistent. What’s gonna happen if you move the time and you still miss a news story? Don’t worry about it.
Del Tor’ah
2020-04-14 17:12:49 +0000 UTCI voted for change but as long as the podcasts keep coming I'll be happy.
2020-04-14 17:06:37 +0000 UTCSo literally SS and SS+ would just be swapping publish dates. Don’t see the need for that as you will still miss news either way. For me, it makes more sense to have a bonus episode follow the publishing of a regular episode.
Koray Savas
2020-04-14 17:01:47 +0000 UTCBig Sony news has dropped Monday night/Tuesday ever since Beyond. Moving recording is the right move
TheBufferPiece
2020-04-14 17:01:39 +0000 UTCTough choice. I like when the news of the week is fresher, but I like to listen to new music on Friday.
Jake Z
2020-04-14 17:01:37 +0000 UTCI wouldn’t mind the change in dates, might be a nice change of pace.
Gustavo Paredes
2020-04-14 16:52:52 +0000 UTCI wouldn't have a problem with SS+ swapped places with SS. Probably better to have a news summary for the week on Friday than it is the following Tuesday. That being said, I don't really care that much either way.
Jonny K.
2020-04-14 16:51:49 +0000 UTCI don’t think you should change. You’re not a breaking news podcast. Your an editorial podcast. Plus if you change your record date, Sony will just change their PR dates. Just to fuck you. 😂
Disgraced Former President Andrew Johnson
2020-04-14 16:51:14 +0000 UTCChange! The current schedule forces the bulk of your listeners (free & <$5) to listen over the weekend if they want to contribute to next week's show on Monday. I don't usually have time on the weekends for podcasts. The changed schedule is much better!
Matt Lamoureux
2020-04-14 16:49:48 +0000 UTCSS+ would publish on Tuesday, everyone. You'd still have the same cadence of podcasts
Ben Williams
2020-04-14 16:49:22 +0000 UTCI think it's fine as is. There are so many quick responses to fresh news, which often gets a follow-up with more details or clarification a couple of days later. And even if it doesn't, y'all can marinate on it a bit and form an opinion that doesn't have to be a hot take (or whatever young people call it nowadays), which few folks do nowadays cause it's all about the speedy reactions.
2020-04-14 16:47:00 +0000 UTCWhy wouldn't you switch? It just makes sense to be able to recap the news of the week. Nothing happens over the weekend. Not sure why switching is losing on this poll
Ben Williams
2020-04-14 16:45:41 +0000 UTCSeems like 6 one way half a dozen to other to be honest.
Demon L
2020-04-14 16:44:43 +0000 UTCRecording later in the week makes sense to catch more in each week's podcast. I can listen whever. Keep up the good work!
Alex Landry
2020-04-14 16:42:01 +0000 UTCMany episodes feel a bit late because of the stuff that gets announced right after you guys record. Shifting the schedule seems only logical and it will cause 2 days delay in 1 episode or something then it will be back to feeling normal. I say change.
2020-04-14 16:40:35 +0000 UTCBut Friday’s are already great...
2020-04-14 16:39:21 +0000 UTCI usually don't have the time to listen until Friday anyway, so if you did it later in the week you wouldn't be missing these mid-week info drops and we wouldn't have to wait a full week to here the info. With that said my situation isn't the same as everyone's so I'm good either way. Keep up the good work.
Operator 408
2020-04-14 16:35:35 +0000 UTCI'd say what ever you guys think is best. It seems other video game podcasts that record later in the week miss things too. I'll keep listening as soon as you post either way.
Ben Wothe
2020-04-14 16:34:46 +0000 UTCI'm never in a rush to listen to the show, so it doesn't matter when it comes out for me. I'll listen at some point that following week.
Kyle Fox
2020-04-14 16:33:09 +0000 UTCI'm not that bothered about getting the news slightly late, but I can't think of a reason not to change it. So you might as well.
Julian LP
2020-04-14 16:31:12 +0000 UTCI'm going to go ahead and vote for the new recording schedule simply because, as someone stated in an earlier post, your more likely to catch the most up to date press releases as they typically hit Tuesdays through Thursdays.... Having said that, I'm sure I'm not alone in thinking that the best recording schedule should ultimately be the one that best serves the two of you.
Jason Vanover
2020-04-14 16:29:07 +0000 UTCGo a head and change, it will make the gaming news more fresh in your minds.
2020-04-14 16:27:28 +0000 UTCI’m not really sure honestly. Whatever works best for you guys.
2020-04-14 16:25:55 +0000 UTCSet aside the "make tuesday great again" meme at this point, its about making the best show they can. Objectively more gaming news comes out mid week than on the weekends. Recording at the end just means they have more of a chance to catch the news and therefore produce a better show. With all the ps5 news we're expecting over the coming months, things like them missing the DualSense news will continue to happen unless they record later in the week.
2020-04-14 16:25:19 +0000 UTCThink Friday makes sense, I get tradition but I do think its better to publish as close to any interesting/breaking news as possible for gaining new audiences members via free feeds. I understand the show isn't all about breaking news, but for the future growth of the show, this might be the best option I think.
2020-04-14 16:25:09 +0000 UTCChange is good! More news is good! Friday releases would catch many of these issues.
Isaac Cynova
2020-04-14 16:24:57 +0000 UTCIt’s not about breaking the news it’s about the takes on said news. No need to change it.
Michael Morris
2020-04-14 16:21:48 +0000 UTCSo far, it's a lot closer than I thought it would be.
Saúl Nolasco
2020-04-14 16:21:30 +0000 UTCGaming news almost never happens on Saturday or Sunday so frankly I think it would be MUCH better if you recorded on Friday, released on Saturday but recording on Thursday and releasing on Friday is just as good pretty much. Eitherway this annoying being practically an entire week behind the news (for the free feeds at least) is the worst part about the schedule. Moving to thursday/friday would minimize that.
Hugo Stiglitz
2020-04-14 16:21:29 +0000 UTCHonestly I don’t even know why this is a discussion. Do an emergency pod for any new breaking big news rather than stick to a regimen. Almost every podcast that covers an industry will do this. The fact of the matter is if you’re not quick with your reactions you’re letting the competition beat you to the punch unnecessarily.
Robert Schultz
2020-04-14 16:20:14 +0000 UTCStop with the “keeping [insert day] great” -this doesn’t help the conversation. Are people that idiotic...this is a business decision, not a throwaway decision.
Joseph Tartaglia
2020-04-14 16:18:29 +0000 UTCCursory research indicates that the consensus among marketing folks is that the best days to put out a press release are Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday. You will never truly time the news cycle, but by switching to recording on a Thursday, you stand the best chance at capturing more of the weekly news cycle in a timely fashion. This will make Friday's episode into more of a Weekly Recap. I think it makes sense to change it.
Jordan
2020-04-14 16:17:09 +0000 UTCThis will be a tight race, I imagine. I think I would prefer Friday for the sake of my busy podcast fee, but I honestly think you’re gonna be missing big news no matter what.
Zackery Parkerson
2020-04-14 16:16:46 +0000 UTCFriday just makes more sense. Why wait to talk about stuff till the next Tuesday?
2020-04-14 16:15:18 +0000 UTC. Either or. Whichever is EZer for you guys. We are here to serve the CC'S
Ryan McQueeney
2020-04-14 16:15:01 +0000 UTCI'm not going to vote because I ultimately don't care - I rarely listen to your podcasts on the day they release. I also don't listen to your shows FOR the news as much as your thoughts on it. You will think them and relay that info whenever you get to it. Scientifically speaking, can we go back and see what days Sony typically drops these random nuggets out? If it's usually a Tuesday then it does make sense to push it...
Stephen Short
2020-04-14 16:14:28 +0000 UTCKeep making Tuesday’s Great Again, and getting the new game drops accurate and on time. If people want up to the minute news coverage, they’ll sub to get the SS+ deep dive before the next mainline episode.
Spencer F.
2020-04-14 16:14:21 +0000 UTCIn terms of engagement (i.e. drawing in non-patrons), a Friday post is optimal so you ensure you catch the week’s news. For free listeners, if there is a news announcement by Sony on a Tuesday, free listeners have to wait at least 10 days to hear discussion of it, which is absolute craziness. As a business-minded person, keeping the times “as is” is unacceptable...the whole ‘majority rules’ for people voting that ARE ALREADY PATRONS misses the mark entirely...Colin you should know better considering this is your second business. Change it to Thursday record and Friday post...you know this move will help your bottom line and the the current patrons will still get the same content, but new people will come on!
Joseph Tartaglia
2020-04-14 16:13:26 +0000 UTCI don't really listen to the show to stay up to date on the newest news, so I voted to keep as is
2020-04-14 16:13:21 +0000 UTCIt seems like Sony is announcing most news on Tuesdays, out of the blue. I am not getting my news from Sacred Symbols, but I enjoy hearing your take on things. I think moving the podcast would mean we get those reactions a bit sooner, and possibly more raw. Having a week to compile your thoughts might mean those thoughts and ideas are being boiled down and reduced into a list of bullet points, and I kinda miss the days of watching the reveal with Colin's commentary on camera. Maybe that could be a good compromise? Could you consider live streaming or just recording your initial reactions to the reveals?
Porkyo
2020-04-14 16:12:59 +0000 UTCI think you should just leave everything as is, but if a BIG piece of news drops within 1 or 2 days after you record, I think releasing a short bonus episode where you can quickly discuss this information in a timely manner would be better than waiting until the next week. The Last of Us 2 delay might be an example of this. You guys are doing great work so that's a very small nitpick.
OhHiMike
2020-04-14 16:12:14 +0000 UTCThe catch phrase for this show is make Tuesday’s great again dammit
Kenneth Oms
2020-04-14 16:11:53 +0000 UTCSimple logic: If a news podcast has dead days between Patreon and regular release, you want those dead days to be over the weekend.
2020-04-14 16:11:28 +0000 UTCSo long as I keep hearing you guys I don’t care when I get it. Keep up the great work Much love
Steven Clifford
2020-04-14 16:11:08 +0000 UTCKeep making Tuesday great for always and forever.
ScootyTooty
2020-04-14 16:10:20 +0000 UTCHey personally would be very ok with this if sacred symbols plus posted on Tuesday so we would receive the same cadence of shows just flip the two drop dates. That would be cool by me.
2020-04-14 16:10:14 +0000 UTCEasy Allies literally did this exact same thing and they got a lot more news covered. Sorry not to compare just point to ponder! Love the podcast guys!
2020-04-14 16:09:47 +0000 UTCKeep Tuesdays.
Jeremy
2020-04-14 16:09:40 +0000 UTCMight as well give it a try. If it doesn't work, you can always change it back.
2020-04-14 16:09:36 +0000 UTCKeep making Tuesday’s great you cannot predict Sony’s news unveiling anymore
2020-04-14 16:09:35 +0000 UTCI don't think you should move it however it may be worth considering the possibility of doing short special episodes for really large news
Tom SquareEye
2020-04-14 16:09:34 +0000 UTCAlso, Friday is the end of the week, it's already great. Keep Tuesdays great...
Angelo Ponte
2020-04-14 16:09:25 +0000 UTCMakes more sense to do a weekly recap, there is always such a delay with the Tuesday publishing, or worse for Friday if you support at the $1.00 level.
Brandon Sawyer
2020-04-14 16:09:20 +0000 UTCDon’t change but I’d get rid of releasing it late. You get ads from free loaders. I think your losing potential audience from people who don’t want to listen to a 3day old podcast and if they aren’t listening you can convert them to paid. I never listened to the Kinda Funny podcast back in the day. Because I didn’t subscribe and the news is late and old cause I got it from Giant Bomb and IGN podcast instead. I fee Friday is also a bad day to release a podcast. If someone cant listen on Tuesday release they will likely listen on Wednesday but if they cant listen to a Friday podcast on release they will likely listen on Monday. Which would be 3day old news so they might skip it.
john spatta
2020-04-14 16:09:15 +0000 UTCI don't think the news cycle is consistent enough for there to be difference. The real change would be in the new releases. Since "The Drop" is on Friday, you'd be reading the games that are already out, instead of the upcoming ones. Could be a positive or a negative, depending on how you look at it.
Nils S.
2020-04-14 16:08:54 +0000 UTCNo reason to change. No matter what, Playstation doesn't have a set news day that you can record after. If you move to Thursday they may drop news on Friday.
Angelo Ponte
2020-04-14 16:08:16 +0000 UTCIf I honestly don't give a shit, should I just abstain from voting. I listen more for their opinion on the news, as opposed to the most up to date news story.
Ray Briggs
2020-04-14 16:07:34 +0000 UTCNews happens every day of the week. If you want to stay current then perhaps do some external reading.
Oliver
2020-04-14 16:07:34 +0000 UTCI am indifferent
2020-04-14 16:07:30 +0000 UTCI think changing the main episode to Thursday to get the bulk of the weeks news is a good idea, leaving SS+ the option to cover hot breaking news earlier in the week that may not be all the necessary for a large spot on the main Episode. This kind of makes sense to me, so long as SS+ drops early in the week in lieu of the change.
Raumulus
2020-04-14 16:07:20 +0000 UTCReleasing on Tuesday is the option that makes most sense. Tuesday's seem like a Playstation kind of day. Games release, the store updates. Keep it how it is. On a personal note, having the episode on Tuesday (and the length of the episode) I don't generally get it finished until Wednesday or sometimes Thursday. Release it on a Friday and likely won't be done until Tuesday. SS+ (and being around an hour) is a perfect end of week / weekend podcast.
Greg Horsman
2020-04-14 16:07:19 +0000 UTCHey Guys! Of course change it! You will naturally miss most of the news, because big outlets, Piblishers and Tech Companys inform on Tue-Thu. So I think this step is nessesary and good! easy allies moved also and they like it! and c‘mon who don‘t like a hottake on a hot news ;) greetings
Eugen R.
2020-04-14 16:06:41 +0000 UTCI like listening earlier in the week. If it came out on Friday I wouldn't tune in until Monday anyway (SS+ this happens but tends to be less "newsy") I'm sure whichever decision ends up being taken will be for the best for you Colin!
2020-04-14 16:05:45 +0000 UTC#KeepTuesdaysGreat
Drew Sapolnick
2020-04-14 16:05:41 +0000 UTCI usually listen to my podcasts at work, so prefer earlier in the week. If you publish on friday I'd likely not listen to it until monday. So I'd stick with the same schedule.
Librado sanchez
2020-04-14 16:05:38 +0000 UTCI personally love the idea of a recap of what's happened during the week more than a recap of what happened last week
Jonathan Gould
2020-04-14 16:05:09 +0000 UTCTHIS. EXACTLY.
Justin Marxer
2020-04-14 16:04:59 +0000 UTCIt's tradition!
2020-04-14 16:04:58 +0000 UTCI went with record on Thursday and publish on Friday simply because you can perhaps make better use of the news published during the working week rather than having to wait until Tuesday to get the previous weeks news bits.
Ryan Robertson
2020-04-14 16:04:51 +0000 UTCI’ve never tapped an option faster.
Russell Garrett
2020-04-14 16:04:04 +0000 UTCI get the reasoning, but I like having it be so early in the week. Mondays / Tuesdays suck and it’s just the start of the work week. The podcast gives me something to look forward to.
Ian
2020-04-14 16:03:49 +0000 UTC