KnockBack, Episode 118: Far Cry 3
Added 2020-05-14 16:00:03 +0000 UTCDo you know the definition of insanity? After playing 2012's Far Cry 3, you just might. While this open world FPS series began inauspiciously enough under the direction of none other than Crytek, it's when Ubisoft brought the shooter franchise in-house that it truly began to shine. And it perhaps shines brightest with its third core entry, one that takes place on the fictional Rook Islands in the Pacific Ocean, pits rich kids against drug-and-slave-trading thugs, and challenges players to find meaning in all of the gratuitous and endless violence surrounding them. Far Cry 3 is a high water mark in open world design, gunplay, and narrative -- with awesome in-game systems and some fascinating characters to boot -- and it absolutely demands an episode of KnockBack. So grab your rucksack, islander. There are psychopaths about. (Topic begins at 29:32.)
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Haha well there have been more "Colin Was Right" moments than "Colin Was Wrong" moments, so I'll give you a pass on this one. Best way I can put it to you is that FC2 was that defining 2008 open world first person experience that you have said many times that Fallout 3 was for you. And I think the later Far Cry sequels watered it down in the same way you and many others think Fallout 4 did to 3.
JEECE
2020-05-27 00:04:02 +0000 UTCI remember not caring a great deal for what I played, but it's been a very long time, and I didn't play much.
Colin Moriarty
2020-05-26 23:45:42 +0000 UTCFar Cry 2 is the best Far Cry. FC3 is the best of the handholdy, checklist-era Ubisoft Far Crys (3, Blood Dragon, 4, 5, New Dawn). Besides just being a better game to play, FC2's AI, physics, and world are more advanced than FC5: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCeEvQ68jY8&t=313s
JEECE
2020-05-25 23:47:07 +0000 UTCA lot of people think it is one of the best games ever. Which makes sense, because it is one of the best games ever. I think Mitch Dyer (former IGN person, not sure where he is now) was one of the most prominent industry types who knew the truth. Of course, then there are also a lot of people who whine about enemies respawning, but love Dark Souls, or who complain about weapons breaking, but think Breath of the Wild is the best game of all time.
JEECE
2020-05-25 23:42:21 +0000 UTCIt is a cool setting. I am also willing to give it another try. After listening to this Knockback I've been wanting to playthrough a Farcry game again, I think I'll go with 5.
Andrew B
2020-05-19 02:52:28 +0000 UTCThe story and characters (and setting!) are what really made it for me. To play a Far Cry game in America is pretty awesome. I love Montana. =)
Colin Moriarty
2020-05-18 23:19:27 +0000 UTCI by no means think FC5 is a bad game but here's my take on why it could be under rated (or at least why I personally didn't play it for more than 15 hours): same old same old, too easy, open world burnout, gameplay isn't terribly engaging, gunplay feels too arcade-y, abundunce of resources (never strapped for bullets and what not. These are obviously all personal opinions. The story is cool enough I suppose, but it is hard for me to get behind the 'artsy' part of video games that are worked on by such large studios. It feels more like a forced rehash of old games to get more money.
Andrew B
2020-05-18 21:49:36 +0000 UTCIt's a good time to play it! It's manageable, especially if you're not going for 100% completion or the Plat.
Colin Moriarty
2020-05-18 17:35:06 +0000 UTCThat could very well be the intent, but I liked my reference to Arkham Aylsum, where some of the knife fight stuff (and other features in the game) seem wedged in there (perhaps reasonably so) because they took the time to make them.
Colin Moriarty
2020-05-18 17:31:50 +0000 UTCubisoft games have just never been for me, really. tbh, i've never found any of their stories particularly compelling, which I personally need in order to push myself through all the "checklists" in their games, but this podcast has me Interested in playing FC3 for the very first time, so I'm going to check it out with as open of a mind as I can! thanks guys!
Toren R. (KESA)
2020-05-18 15:43:40 +0000 UTCBut a lot of things in this game can be looked in the lense of insanity. The game is very repetitive because you expect it to change anything. And the same for the knife fights too, you kill them the same way as you expect to change anything. In one of the trailers for the game the knife scene in there keeps changing between Vass and Jason. You kill both the big baddies the same way but by doing it you created another big baddie. And all with the Chinese knife as well. Even Citra is killed with a knife and she kills you with a knife, so the cycle keeps continuing even in the good ending. And in that ending Jason comments on how he can never go back to how it was. That because of all he's done and seen, he can never go back to normal. It really is a deep game that is or accidentally influence even the gameplay with the theme of insanity.
FluffyNeko
2020-05-18 10:32:08 +0000 UTCWell?!
Colin Moriarty
2020-05-17 22:32:01 +0000 UTCColin: “What does Helen Keller know??” Looooooool
Caleb Greer
2020-05-16 21:07:17 +0000 UTCI played and Platinum'd Far Cry 3 on PS3 in 2013, and replayed it on PS4 through to the end in preparation for this episode. So, both. I thought the port was really good.
Colin Moriarty
2020-05-15 18:14:46 +0000 UTCI'll see what I can do next week!
Colin Moriarty
2020-05-15 18:14:23 +0000 UTCI'll have two verses next week!
Colin Moriarty
2020-05-15 18:13:58 +0000 UTCHe's got bars.
Colin Moriarty
2020-05-15 18:13:43 +0000 UTCI dont want to listen yet because im still working on far cry 3 myself, but id like to ask Colin did you play the far cry 3 on ps3 or far cry 3 classic on ps4? If the latter, how was your general impressions of the port?
Gabe
2020-05-15 14:24:12 +0000 UTCWhen I asked who would win in a rap battle, I didn’t expect it to become a show segment. Fucking aye guys. 😂 Dagan did a solid job. ❤️
NeO JD
2020-05-15 14:14:45 +0000 UTCThat opening is stellar. Can't wait to hear all the verses. In regards to who said Far Cry 2 was great (one of the best games, etc.), I don't recall all the people stating it, but I know Anthony Burch was really into it. I haven't paid much attention to him since before meeting him at GDC in 2014, so not sure if he still feels that way.
Jason Bolla
2020-05-15 06:02:41 +0000 UTCDagan, you got to play that rap back for your kids, I'm curious at what point the laughing starts, and at which point the ridicule stops.
Jessica Gutiérrez
2020-05-15 02:08:01 +0000 UTCYeah, we're gonna continue to just do whatever we want. But certainly, we'll give people ways to circumvent the content they don't want when we can.
Colin Moriarty
2020-05-15 00:38:43 +0000 UTC=)
Colin Moriarty
2020-05-15 00:38:13 +0000 UTCSame team, so no surprise there.
Colin Moriarty
2020-05-15 00:38:06 +0000 UTC5 is so good. Very underrated.
Colin Moriarty
2020-05-15 00:37:55 +0000 UTCWait, you do? That's literally a question Dagan asks in the podcast.
Colin Moriarty
2020-05-15 00:37:46 +0000 UTCLet us get through all of the other games people have voted for us to do first.
Colin Moriarty
2020-05-15 00:37:36 +0000 UTCLOL.
Colin Moriarty
2020-05-15 00:35:52 +0000 UTCGameplay-wise, yes... but in tenor and mood, definitely not.
Colin Moriarty
2020-05-15 00:35:46 +0000 UTCDefinitely one of 2012's best games... and it was an exceptionally strong year for games.
Colin Moriarty
2020-05-15 00:35:36 +0000 UTCSays you! =)
Colin Moriarty
2020-05-15 00:35:23 +0000 UTCThere are plenty of Far Cry games that matter!
Colin Moriarty
2020-05-15 00:35:16 +0000 UTCYeah, I can tell. Even going to North Carolina today to pick up the dog, it was obvious people were totally over it.
Colin Moriarty
2020-05-15 00:35:07 +0000 UTCMe too! It's fun. =)
Colin Moriarty
2020-05-15 00:34:47 +0000 UTCI love it, but I think 5 is the superior Far Cry.
Colin Moriarty
2020-05-15 00:34:41 +0000 UTCYou probably will, yes.
Colin Moriarty
2020-05-15 00:34:33 +0000 UTCEnjoy. =)
Colin Moriarty
2020-05-15 00:34:27 +0000 UTCI really enjoy the long intros Colin and Dagan. You can't really win with people it seems, that's the problem with a following growing, all of the nincompoops start to show up and demand that everything bends to their needs. There was a point in time where everyone complained that the podcasts weren't long enough, and then you guys gave long intros that increased the podcast beyond the topic length, and now they're too long? Or at least the intro? Do what you guys do, it's always great!
Jessica Gutiérrez
2020-05-14 23:19:21 +0000 UTCI LOVED the original Far Cry. I really enjoyed the mutant aspect that showed up halfway through the game. I personally always saw the first Uncharted as a beat for beat third person ripoff of the original Far Cry, they even ended that game with a paranormal aspect which kind of confirmed it for me. The only difference was Drake didn't have on a Hawaiian t shirt.
Jessica Gutiérrez
2020-05-14 22:33:01 +0000 UTCYayyy! A video game centric knockback! I love it
Douglas Morreale
2020-05-14 21:55:01 +0000 UTCThe original far cry was the crysis of its day and was truly stunning to explore back then.
Kevin Tuber
2020-05-14 21:38:34 +0000 UTClove 3 but i agree with colin 5 is the best love the setting so much
Jack Doheny
2020-05-14 20:53:45 +0000 UTCThis game is great. I have the skill tree tattooed on my arm lol
Digitako
2020-05-14 20:39:26 +0000 UTCI want Dagan to play RDR2 so bad. It will blow his mind.
Nathalie White
2020-05-14 17:03:01 +0000 UTCClapback on Knockback. Dad rap.
Andrew Christensen
2020-05-14 17:00:12 +0000 UTCFarcry 3, 4, and 5 are basically the same game in my opinion
Ben Williams
2020-05-14 16:36:19 +0000 UTCLove this game. It was my game of the year for 2012.
Michael Krivo
2020-05-14 16:24:43 +0000 UTCStill the best Far Cry
Michael Miller
2020-05-14 16:23:56 +0000 UTCThis is the only Far Cry that matters. Good choice.
Jorge Aponte
2020-05-14 16:09:33 +0000 UTCOh yeah, I can't wait to listen to this! This is the only Far Cry game I've ever finished and I absolutely loved it! Also, you're correct about people here in the south. They're tired of this Coronavirus and business is getting back to the way it was.
Anthony J Sanchez
2020-05-14 16:06:59 +0000 UTCFantastic. I don't why, but I get a kick hearing Dagan talk about modern games.
francisco gutierrez
2020-05-14 16:06:34 +0000 UTCThe superior Far Cry
jacob cunningham
2020-05-14 16:05:47 +0000 UTCOne day I'll see the post "Knockback: The Golden Girls"
Jose Horrach
2020-05-14 16:03:46 +0000 UTCAwesome, that's my work day tomorrow sorted :)
Martin
2020-05-14 16:03:20 +0000 UTC
