Sacred Symbols, Episode 114: Don't Go Back
Added 2020-09-04 16:00:06 +0000 UTCWe're something like two months and change removed from PlayStation 5's presumed release window, but if you were expecting Sony itself to say anything about it, keep on hoping and dreaming. One of the upcoming console's deepest mysteries remains just how far in PlayStation history its backwards compatibility will allow us to delve; yet if a seemingly-innocuous FAQ from Ubisoft is any indication, you shouldn't expect to put your PSone, PS2, and PS3 discs into the machine. Does it really matter? Let's chat about it. Plus: New Sony financials paint a rosy picture for the PlayStation brand, first party games will continue to be ported to PC, Media Molecule loses a co-founder, Ubisoft renames Gods & Monsters, and more. Then: Listener inquiries! Will The Getaway ever make a return? How come no one's talking about 13 Sentinels: Aegis Rim? Could Insomniac be playing with our hearts when it comes to its incessant Resistance teases? Did you know Michael Jordan had a Hitler mustache for a little while? It's true!
Timestamps:
0:00:17 - Intro.
0:03:52 - Twin Breaker is officially coming to Switch, Xbox One, and PC!
0:08:15 - Have we ever considered doing an off-topic/comedy podcast?
0:09:48 - Ranch: The Devil's (Other) Condiment.
0:13:36 - Basketball-related clarifications.
0:20:19 - One listener can no longer take a shower in peace thanks to this show.
0:21:48 - Have we ever accidentally farted loudly in public?
0:23:48 - A 31 year old man doesn't know how to blow his nose.
0:26:18 - 3D audio talk.
0:31:37 - What's Chris' take on Joseph Staten going to 343?
0:39:01 - Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart is the next game to get a performance mode.
0:44:51 - What have we been playing?
0:48:54 - Did Colin accidentally Platinum his own game as his 100th Plat?
0:50:45 - Have we played The Avengers?
0:54:50 - According to Ubisoft, PS5 will not be backwards compatible beyond PS4.
1:04:50 - Media Molecule is losing a co-founder.
1:07:39 - Sony has confirmed that more of their games are coming to PC.
1:13:37 - Sony's financial report may hold tantalizing clues on the future.
1:16:19 - The same report also updates PS4 sales data and PS+/PSNow sub numbers.
1:19:35 - AT&T has officially taken WB Interactive off the market.
1:24:35 - Ubisoft has renamed Gods & Monsters.
1:28:01 - Indie dev Vlambeer is shutting down.
1:30:56 - Minor game announcements and release date information.
1:34:09 - This week's new releases for PS4, PS Vita, and PSVR.
1:48:32 - Why do some game journalists think Sony should delay the PlayStation 5.
1:53:10 - How come no one's talking about 13 Sentinels: Aegis Rim?
1:56:01 - A theory on the PS5 pre-order lottery.
1:59:03 - Will the quality of PS5 launch window games suffer due to COVID?
2:00:42 - Will Sony London ever return to The Getaway.
2:03:31 - Is a Resistance related announcement coming soon?
Comments
Sorry! We can't list timestamps on the audio podcast, because the ad servers would always make them wrong. Ya dig?
Colin Moriarty
2020-09-12 21:07:32 +0000 UTCThanks! Glad to make you laugh.
Colin Moriarty
2020-09-12 21:07:14 +0000 UTCThank you. <3
Colin Moriarty
2020-09-12 21:07:03 +0000 UTCJesus.
Colin Moriarty
2020-09-12 21:06:57 +0000 UTCLooking forward to being on one day!
Colin Moriarty
2020-09-12 21:06:53 +0000 UTCSee, I just take issue with the whole bacon angle. I love bacon, but sometimes it ruins things.
Colin Moriarty
2020-09-12 21:06:41 +0000 UTCThe numbers are definitely really low.
Colin Moriarty
2020-09-12 21:06:27 +0000 UTCThank you!
Colin Moriarty
2020-09-12 21:06:13 +0000 UTCCan't do it.
Colin Moriarty
2020-09-12 21:06:08 +0000 UTCThat would be sweet.
Colin Moriarty
2020-09-12 21:06:03 +0000 UTCNo.
Colin Moriarty
2020-09-12 21:05:58 +0000 UTCLOL.
Colin Moriarty
2020-09-12 21:05:51 +0000 UTCGood point.
Colin Moriarty
2020-09-12 21:05:44 +0000 UTCI keep saying I gotta do it, so... I will one day. =)
Colin Moriarty
2020-09-12 21:05:39 +0000 UTCIt's very confusing.
Colin Moriarty
2020-09-12 21:05:24 +0000 UTCSo frustrating that the timestamps are only listed here and not on Google Podcast info
Evan Erickson
2020-09-11 15:03:09 +0000 UTCSometimes I think "Eh, there's nothing coming out on PlayStation this week. There might not be anything for me this episode" But when you tune in, you get C&C and THAT'S what you come for. Comedic gold and hanging out with the boys. Always a pleasure. Always a great time. Keep being awesome you guys!
Aaron Treble
2020-09-11 10:55:08 +0000 UTCDude colin was in great for this episode. Love the wit and sarcasm. Laughed the whole way through. Hope this doesn’t come off as an insult...
FoxHopSmash
2020-09-10 22:33:22 +0000 UTCGo for the GTA V & Red Dead Redemption 2 platinum you coward.
Aman Sidhu
2020-09-08 17:04:24 +0000 UTCYou guys are right about the messaging, it's total trash. Same applies for MS, got no sympathy for them re the Series S leak, they shouldn't be keeping a console under wraps 2 months before launch. Anyway, very excited for that Snark Tank episode. Think you'll fit right in Colin, got the same edgy humour.
Your Boi Nicky V
2020-09-08 13:29:07 +0000 UTCRanch is like bacon. Adding bacon to something, always makes it better.
Cory Towler
2020-09-08 11:13:31 +0000 UTCI just can't imagine the numbers to be high at all for players loading up PS1 and PS2 games on a PlayStation 5. If you look at XB1 play original XB game it looks terrible.
The Lizard King
2020-09-07 13:16:53 +0000 UTCI’ve realized I only comment when I really disagree on a point or to offer corrections, so I wanted to switch it up today. Thanks for the laughs and insight over the past two years. You guys are great, and much appreciated.
Josh Lucas
2020-09-07 09:32:42 +0000 UTCDo yourselves a favor, play wasteland 3
O
2020-09-07 04:04:45 +0000 UTCHave a feeling it’s resistance vr that they are teasing
Dom posa
2020-09-07 01:29:27 +0000 UTCDipping hot wings in ranch is pretty tasty tho. They even made a Ranch Dipped Hot Wings Doritos flavour.
Sumojoe118
2020-09-07 00:48:21 +0000 UTCColin, we all know you run that Cobra Commander twitter account. “I don’t need to be fucking assblasted with sound.” 😄
NeO JD
2020-09-06 13:41:23 +0000 UTCI think it is importsnt to remember PS Now isn't available in as many regions as Gamepass.
Haydyn
2020-09-06 12:42:09 +0000 UTCWould be really interested to hear Colin's opinion on PS Now some day! As a recent subscriber I have to say I really like it, despite being sceptical before trying it. I've played some Dead Cells, Mega Man 9 and Resistance 3 over streaming and have noticed no glaring issues like the ones Chris has reported.
DMC
2020-09-06 01:04:26 +0000 UTCIn this case it was likely because Deep Silver published the game and not Microsoft. The game was in development before InXile's acquisition, similar to the situation with The Outer Worlds and Obsidian/Private Division. You do see what you mention with Xbox games on Steam though, so it's definitely a possible avenue for MS in future!
miniAJ
2020-09-05 18:40:34 +0000 UTCAll words are made up, Colin. Also, I only just now realized Microsoft’s strategy after releasing Wastland 3 on PS4. They are probably going to keep releasing their games on PlayStation because the don’t make any sales on their console because of Game Pass. I’m not sure if I’m gonna get a Series X anytime soon but I think it’s pretty enticing to know I get all these games for free** on that platform when I’m staring at the $60 price tag on PlayStation.
Oliver Johnson
2020-09-05 18:22:05 +0000 UTCI loved it, too, but it has been a while. I wonder if it stands up?
Colin Moriarty
2020-09-05 17:46:05 +0000 UTCAgreed!
Colin Moriarty
2020-09-05 17:45:53 +0000 UTCWe'll fill the gap where and when we can.
Colin Moriarty
2020-09-05 17:45:48 +0000 UTCI'm happy to hear that.
Colin Moriarty
2020-09-05 17:45:40 +0000 UTCI'd imagine this is the sort of thing captured in focus and play testing as opposed to literal QA, but either way... the way you did things at THQ is not the way it's done where I've seen it! I've been in many Sony QA rooms, and they are well-equipped.
Colin Moriarty
2020-09-05 17:45:33 +0000 UTC=)
Colin Moriarty
2020-09-05 17:44:53 +0000 UTCA lot, LOL.
Colin Moriarty
2020-09-05 17:44:50 +0000 UTCNerd alert.
Colin Moriarty
2020-09-05 17:44:45 +0000 UTC<3
Colin Moriarty
2020-09-05 17:44:41 +0000 UTCI love Mega Man X, yes. My dog's middle name is Velguarder. =)
Colin Moriarty
2020-09-05 17:44:35 +0000 UTC=)
Colin Moriarty
2020-09-05 17:44:25 +0000 UTCIt was insane. That's the kind of thing that shouldn't even get out of the front door.
Colin Moriarty
2020-09-05 17:44:21 +0000 UTCCorrect.
Colin Moriarty
2020-09-05 17:44:09 +0000 UTCThank you!
Colin Moriarty
2020-09-05 17:44:05 +0000 UTCHmmm.
Colin Moriarty
2020-09-05 17:43:55 +0000 UTCIf Sony only has X amount of resources, they should go into the things that matter most to the most amount of people. PlayStation Now will be a conduit toward old games. I personally don't care that I can't play PS3, PS2, or PSone games on PS5, and I guarantee you 99%+ of consumers don't, either. And that really does matter.
Colin Moriarty
2020-09-05 17:43:43 +0000 UTCAh, MGS4. Those were the days. I still love that they patched the game for Trophies like 10 years after it came out. Baller move.
Colin Moriarty
2020-09-05 17:42:47 +0000 UTCThey don't need to make big purchases like that, I totally disagree. Surgical acquisitions -- and creating new teams from scratch, like they're doing with the new Uncharted team in San Diego -- is the way to go.
Colin Moriarty
2020-09-05 17:42:28 +0000 UTCAwesome. =)
Colin Moriarty
2020-09-05 17:42:00 +0000 UTCSteel yourself, Bryan, because they're definitely bringing God of War to PC.
Colin Moriarty
2020-09-05 17:41:51 +0000 UTCI remember how amazed I was by The Getaway when it came out because enemies reacted to where they were shot and didn't just fall over. That game was sooo good.
Jordan Knepp
2020-09-05 16:44:12 +0000 UTCProps to Chris for recognizing the problems with the fake drop. Sony doesnt do shit for all the games that come to their store evey week and if you guys can help one of these devs even a little bit that's pretty cool. Shit was still funny anyways so we didnt lose a laugh. Good call Ray Gun, good call.
Reese Redmond
2020-09-05 05:16:08 +0000 UTCWhile I will miss the made up game descriptions from the last month or so, I agree with Chris and I do like to see the return of the old format for the drop. Sony needs to step it up. A company that size failing on something so simple is unacceptable.
JT
2020-09-05 03:08:54 +0000 UTCAvengers is much better than the beta and the monetization is fair. Enjoying it so far
Dom posa
2020-09-05 02:28:51 +0000 UTCAs per the small UI in games I can’t speak for the dev side but I was a tester for years at THQ (old thq) and 2k and the tv screens we used were like small 11” non HD and about 2’ in front of us not to mention sitting elbow to elbow to one another with a real sweat shop kind of feel. We only hooked the games up to the big HD monitor in the conference rooms when we got closer to submission.
Kevin Tuber
2020-09-05 01:49:29 +0000 UTCYES finally some coverage about Vanillaware!
Katyusha Mauro
2020-09-05 00:16:38 +0000 UTCI wonder how many people corrected you on the Clyde Drexel comment. Lol. I was also one of them. As a huge NBA fan I got quite the laugh during that segment.
Anthony J Sanchez
2020-09-04 23:55:28 +0000 UTCJesus hearing the word "grimgrimoire" gave me goosebumps
The Vegan Necromancer (I Got Consent)
2020-09-04 23:43:21 +0000 UTCAwesome work Chris and Colin, love that you guys have gone back to a true Drop. You're filling an important information gap, and if Sony isn't taking the time, it just makes your podcast all the more valuable for doing this service. I am sure it's more work, but I appreciate the time you took in putting it together.
James McGivern
2020-09-04 23:05:24 +0000 UTCColin, do you like the Mega Man X games? Obviously I know you're a big fan of Mega Man, but I haven't heard you say much about the X series. I've been playing it on the SNES mini, and it's damn good!
Miles Williams
2020-09-04 22:38:06 +0000 UTCColin "Not The Scary Kind of Domestic Terrorism" Moriarty
Watch Ergo Proxy
2020-09-04 22:28:25 +0000 UTCSeems like a fair description to me
Robert
2020-09-04 21:59:14 +0000 UTCThe Outer World text was fucking ridiculous! I had to stop playing that game because I couldn't see anything. They patched it thankfully, but I still haven't got back to it.
Miles Williams
2020-09-04 21:50:05 +0000 UTCIf you have to put ranch on pizza, you’re eating shitty pizza
Maxx Lazos
2020-09-04 21:49:32 +0000 UTCPodcast is excellent keep it up boys
Robert
2020-09-04 21:49:19 +0000 UTCThe Avengers game looks like it was developed by some of our most hated developers. Corporate business men...
Luke Silletta
2020-09-04 21:33:06 +0000 UTC“The elegance of mayonnaise” - now mayonnaise is alot of things, including delicious. But elegant?
Owen
2020-09-04 21:25:58 +0000 UTCHey Colin, I hope I am not misinterpreting your comments in the episode but you appear to claim that the backwards compatibility thing shouldn't be a big deal for Sony because few people care about this feature, and that you appreciate Jim Ryan's candour. I have not seen any data from Sony on this so I cannot refute your claims specifically to Playstation but I'd like to offer my perspective. After BC was added to Xbox, Phil Spencer tweeted in 2016 that "almost 50%" of Xbox One owners have played a backwards compatible game! (https://www.ign.com/articles/2016/12/14/nearly-50-of-xbox-one-users-play-backwards-compatible-360-games) Furthermore, I distinctly remember when Call of Duty Black Ops 2 became backwards compatible in 2017, 5 years after initial release, the game rapidly ascended the top 10 most played games on Xbox Live! The game even re-entered NPD's top ten best selling games of the month. (https://mspoweruser.com/call-duty-black-ops-ii-enters-npds-top-10-chart-due-backward-compatibility/) I know for gamers on Xbox it is a huge feature, and Microsoft have worked some serious magic here given backwards compatible games are arguably partly remastered, often running at 4K 60 fps with vastly improved loading times on Xbox One X. I realise none of this would necessarily translate to Playstation gamers but an IGN reader poll back in October 2019 revealed the most anticipated PS5 feature was Backwards Compatibility, winning 41.8% of the vote. (https://www.ign.com/articles/2019/10/09/ign-readers-most-anticipated-ps5-feature-is-one-sonys-been-missing-for-a-while) I agree that Sony probably want to sell the same games multiple times, remasters of old games have become incredibly popular in recent years. Surely the success of Crash and Spyro is further evidence that there is interest in these old classics becoming playable in some form regardless? Apologies for the huge post, loving the show so far!
miniAJ
2020-09-04 21:20:09 +0000 UTCOn the topic of having to sign in to another account in a game, nothing was worse than MGS4. In order to play MGO you needed a PSN (obviously), had to sign in to a Konami account and then you needed a Konami ID which was different than the initial Konami account name. The game displayed your Konami ID instead of your PSN online in matches. That shit was such a complicated mess.
Richard Duflo
2020-09-04 21:19:06 +0000 UTCPC is now PlayStations biggest competitor, so I really hope they reconsider the stupidity of putting games on PC or anywhere but PlayStation consoles. They also need to buy something big, like Kadokawa (From) , Zenimax or see if they can buy NetherRealm on its own. They need to start taking big properties off the table for other platforms...... small buys are pointless and a waste of resources, they need a strategic move.
Bryan King
2020-09-04 20:56:52 +0000 UTCHello! So I took advantage of the annual state of play sale playstation does and I picked up the Sony platinum headset. This happened right before the last of us part II came out. I decided I wanted to play the game using the virtual surround sound/3d audio that the game and headset combination offers. It was excellent! It added so much depth. Take care!
Dr. Peter Venkman
2020-09-04 20:39:31 +0000 UTCChris doesn't care about PlayStation so asking him about exclusives going to PC...it's a bit predictable what he is going to say. I think it is a huge misstep, absolutely foolish and will damage PlayStation as a brand. I just bought an OLED for next gen and will drop 1500 euro plus on PS5 launch.... I could easily migrate to pc and they would lose one of their more lucrative customers. If they are ok with just having low spending casual customers and losing all their hardcore... this is certainly the way to go, Im already quite angry about this. If they bring GOW to PC, I'm done.
Bryan King
2020-09-04 20:27:40 +0000 UTCNo, you do.
Colin Moriarty
2020-09-04 20:08:32 +0000 UTCIt really is.
Colin Moriarty
2020-09-04 20:08:28 +0000 UTCNo, it's a gaiter.
Colin Moriarty
2020-09-04 20:08:23 +0000 UTCI didn't say they were.
Colin Moriarty
2020-09-04 20:08:14 +0000 UTCKuby.
Colin Moriarty
2020-09-04 20:08:07 +0000 UTCShut up, David.
Colin Moriarty
2020-09-04 20:08:02 +0000 UTCIt's a real shame.
Colin Moriarty
2020-09-04 20:07:54 +0000 UTC=)
Colin Moriarty
2020-09-04 20:07:48 +0000 UTCYes, but it could be any project.
Colin Moriarty
2020-09-04 20:07:44 +0000 UTCWe'll never really know until we do it.
Colin Moriarty
2020-09-04 20:07:35 +0000 UTCJoey, just stop.
Colin Moriarty
2020-09-04 20:07:29 +0000 UTCI have Sennheiser headphones for music/editing. I like 'em.
Colin Moriarty
2020-09-04 20:07:24 +0000 UTCNo, my vision has actually improved, which is apparently not uncommon for near-sighted people. I haven't worn glasses daily in several years, and I don't wear them at all anymore.
Colin Moriarty
2020-09-04 20:07:14 +0000 UTCDo it!!!
Colin Moriarty
2020-09-04 20:06:51 +0000 UTCThat'd be nice.
Colin Moriarty
2020-09-04 20:06:39 +0000 UTCNo, thank YOU!
Colin Moriarty
2020-09-04 20:06:31 +0000 UTC<3
Colin Moriarty
2020-09-04 20:06:25 +0000 UTCYou god damn sons of bitch.
Colin Moriarty
2020-09-04 20:06:22 +0000 UTCNo, it was a really unique game. I'd love to play the original again.
Colin Moriarty
2020-09-04 20:06:16 +0000 UTCI agree, but I don't think it's gonna happen.
Colin Moriarty
2020-09-04 20:06:07 +0000 UTCThe danker, the better.
Colin Moriarty
2020-09-04 20:05:53 +0000 UTCForreal dude
BigArty
2020-09-04 20:05:16 +0000 UTCFirst the wearing glasses in the shower like a maniac now the ranch hate... yall need to go to therapy or something
BigArty
2020-09-04 20:04:26 +0000 UTCNow wait a minute. This is the best episode!!
There’s No I in LLC
2020-09-04 19:44:40 +0000 UTCThe thing that goes over your face but can also be worn around your neck when you don’t need it is called a balaclava. Just so you know! Haha
Blair Toms
2020-09-04 19:21:09 +0000 UTCHey colin I wanted to point this out here instead of next week. Microsoft isn’t publishing wasteland 3. Its being published by deep silver and inexil also has 1 more vr game they are releasing as well without micrsofts publishing it either. Mincraft and ori are still the only Xgs that are published by Microsoft on other consoles. While game studios like inexil and obsidian still have some contracts to finish up for other publishers. However after that these studios have only been keeping to their Xbox ecosystem.
Adamthm
2020-09-04 19:14:42 +0000 UTC"Hitler is the Michael Jordan of evil..." - Bill Burr
David Kramme
2020-09-04 18:45:05 +0000 UTCBuffalo chicken wings with a side of ranch is amazing.
David Kramme
2020-09-04 18:40:30 +0000 UTCThis is now twice that I've unwittingly used British vernacular in a submission and annoyed you with it. Guess I've just absorbed the lexicon of my ancestors.
David Graham
2020-09-04 18:39:22 +0000 UTCFifth Column ❤️
Jake Z
2020-09-04 18:17:58 +0000 UTCSo you don't think Sony London hiring for AAA project has any weight to it? I agree that it might be too late for the Getaway but idk I feel like something big is brewing in Sony London.
Real Radec
2020-09-04 18:08:11 +0000 UTCI think Colin's next Twitch stream needs to be a vivisection of Chris to make sure he's a real person with organs that generate natural human byproduct.
Jake Z
2020-09-04 18:01:48 +0000 UTCI'm 36 and haven't ever successfully blown my nose. After asking a doctor about this, it turns out I have a deviated septum and blowing my nose normally triggers a gag reflex that makes for an unfun time. My doctor suggested bending forward at a 90-degree angle (further than an Asian bow, for example) and blowing that way, forcing the air to flow more naturally, but I decided that after knowing how to live with this condition and use over-the-counter medication rather than look slightly crazy and creating the perception of welcoming a spontaneous spanking in order to blow my nose.
Joey Rawlings
2020-09-04 17:11:00 +0000 UTCMy dudes, open backed headphones are great for gaming. I highly recommend Sennheiser, since they sell great pairs under $250 at the high end. The open sound stage makes it feel way less claustrophobic to wear them. I just know that I can't really appreciate the sound or voice work in a given game the same without actively using a good pair, although I don't have a nice sound system. Cheers.
Max Stahl
2020-09-04 16:45:07 +0000 UTCColin has 20/20 vision but wears glasses? Colin, are you being a hipster with fake glasses?
Ben Williams
2020-09-04 16:38:23 +0000 UTCYou sons of bitches better buy the Switch version of Twin Breaker. I don't want to get randomly banned.
Saúl Nolasco
2020-09-04 16:19:08 +0000 UTCI've never been triggered more by a podcast episode than I have today. Ranch is the one true condiment and it is a MUST have for pizza. The end.
Cole Helgerson
2020-09-04 16:17:59 +0000 UTCBeen praying for PS3 backwards compatibility for so long, it’s honestly whatever at this point. I just hope we get some HD collections of games that are stranded on there like inFamous, Sly, MGS4, etc.
Brandon Soto
2020-09-04 16:06:52 +0000 UTCOur bouncing baby boys have graced us with their presence and presents yet again. Thank you.
Dennis Johnson
2020-09-04 16:06:08 +0000 UTCThanks guys!
Derek Waechter
2020-09-04 16:05:14 +0000 UTCColin and Chris, you sons of bitch. Hope you’re staying as stressed free as possible these days.
Timothy Bryant
2020-09-04 16:04:20 +0000 UTCI know the rose tinted glasses might be on but I love The Getaway. The thought of the series returning on next gen hardware would really get my juices flowing.
The Lizard King
2020-09-04 16:04:06 +0000 UTCSony should just delay the console. Everyone will be fake mad for about a day, then will get over it with their huge backlog of unplayed / unfinished games.
Brandon Soto
2020-09-04 16:04:02 +0000 UTCDANK YHARNAM NUGS
John Copas
2020-09-04 16:02:36 +0000 UTC
