Sacred Symbols+, Episode LXII: First Party Power Rankings

Shout out to that Freshman reference, that's a great song that takes me back

The Anonymous One

Been going through a lot of these old episodes. You have always put out consistently great content!

Tonys_Always_Write

I haven't been. =\

Colin Moriarty

Sounds like Colin has been watching a lot of Letterkenny lately, Boys!

Kevin Cooper

Yeah, some folks have written in about GT vs. Forza already!

Colin Moriarty

Just wanted to say this because I've heard Colin mention this a couple of times in the podcasts: Forza is not considered better than gran turismo. Forza horizon is a great game but it's an arcade racer so it can't be compared to GT. Forza Motorsport on the other hand is considered to be on par with gran turismo by most people (GT being the standard for these kinds of games). In terms of sales, the last 3 forza motorsport games have sold less than gt sport alone so I think we can all agree that GT is at least not inferior . Also, 2K21 has a 68 on metacritic with a user score of 0.8 so I would say the 2K basketball games aren't regarded as highly these days.

Cornelius

Thank you!

Colin Moriarty

You just got one. =)

Colin Moriarty

Try and keep up!!! =)

Colin Moriarty

Thank you for your support.

Colin Moriarty

Thank you! <3

Colin Moriarty

Thank you for your feedback!

Colin Moriarty

Thank you for your feedback.

Colin Moriarty

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Colin Moriarty

Thanks for listening. =)

Colin Moriarty

Thank you!

Colin Moriarty

Thank you. <3

Colin Moriarty

Hey Colin, Was great to hear Dustin again. Really adds some nice variety. Also, just want to compliment you on an all round great episode. Especially after the somewhat dour tone of the previous episodes, it was awesome to hear you guys excitedly talking about the first parties. Loved it! Cheers, Pete

Pete

Definitely want to hear from Dustin he’s a great addition to the podcast team but I also hope we get just c+c eps of ss on a more regular basis and Dustin in on the ss+ and special episodes. I do personally think the flow and the back and forth is better with two.

Billy boob

I'm a stupid fool. They are ranking all the studio's hence non get left out. I hope nobody in existence ever sees these comments

Harrl

Hold up, (keep in mind I've not listed to the full podcast yet) so you're giving more points to the studios lower on the list and saying those with less points are higher overall? What if Chris (for example) goes and says bend is 11th and Colin + Dustin don't have it on their lists and then all three of our beautiful lads put sucker punch 10th on their lists. SP would end up with more points but would be more deserving of being higher up. I'm had a few beverages so please call me out on my nonsense if I'm wrong but I'm stressing out over this. Anyway, other than having some sort of mental attack, loving the podcast so far.

Harrl

Dustin seems like a perfect fit for these in-depth discussions. There's no format to follow so no worries about a 3rd person interrupting the usual flow. Anyway, thanks for this Colin. Great content.

Your Boi Nicky V

I love Dustin being on the show!! It's fun and it makes me feel like the early Kinda Funny days but better 👍😬. Even if it doesn't continue, thanks for being open enough to try it out Colin!

Jordan Gail

Its nothing against Dustin, I think he’s great, but I think having 3 people on the show becomes too much. Maybe have Chris on the regular show and Dustin on plus? Having two people just makes the show flow so much better and feel less like an interview.

Erik Di Sabatino

I like Dustin, but I really feel the show isnt as strong with a 3rd chair, no matter who it is. It just takes away from the great back and forth C&C have grown. All just my opinion and no disrespect to Dustin.

Joe B

As a native Californian, fuck you two! Lol

Willie916

Love this topic based episode on PlayStation <3 Much love to Bend!

Jeremy

Just writing in to say I liked the episode and keep up the good work

Jack Sibert

Love it as always, continue the great work guys ❤

Marcus Brown

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Colin Moriarty

At least he's honest.

Colin Moriarty

I’m 4 mins into this episode and let me just say that Colin is to never sing again. Ever.

Dominican Lou

Chris on why he never got into Horizon:Zero Dawn: “Maybe I hate women?” 😂😂😂

Gavvyn

Thank you!

Colin Moriarty

Gonna need some sort of nomenclature.

Colin Moriarty

It's certainly always good to keep an open mind... =)

Colin Moriarty

Ha! <3

Colin Moriarty

Thank you! He'll be back.

Colin Moriarty

I happen to know Ramone personally; he's a super nice, stand-up dude.

Colin Moriarty

Thank you! I personally think it went really well, and gave me some stuff to think about!

Colin Moriarty

You're free to tell us how you feel about the content, always!

Colin Moriarty

Glad to make you laugh!

Colin Moriarty

Ah, thank you so much. <3

Colin Moriarty

Thank you!

Colin Moriarty

Hey, thanks for sharing your thoughts!

Colin Moriarty

Thank you! We're glad you enjoyed. <3

Colin Moriarty

I totally am on board with Dustin. He is a great addition to the podcast crew. Thumbs up!

Davosplat

Party Game: Take a shot every time Colin refers to Chris and the other guy as “the boys.”

MomsLikeMe

Maybe it's fear of change but when you guys did the first episode with all 3 of you I was instantly against the idea even though I really like Dustin. I guess I thought it would mess up the 2 person dynamic. HOWEVER, by the end of the first episode and after listening to this one, I think I actually prefer the trio. It gives a bit more personality and more varied opinions which is nice. I'm down for this as long as Dustin's head doesn't get soooooooo large that he floats off into space.

Alex Gates

Chris has said some wild things but “maybe I hate women” was the loudest reaction ever from me. A big whoa there. 😅

NeO JD

Dustin is a much needed new perspective for the show. A fantastic improvement, hope he sticks around

Alex Reid

I love how San Diego interacts with the community, their twitch streams through out the year and leading up to the MLB season. They involve you tubers that are baseball-centric. I think Ramone Russell and the crew are super fun and great to interact with, I think that’s a value that goes unnoticed as well for them.

DB Cooper

Hey, just wanted to say I think dustin makes the podcasts better. Having a third takes the pressure off of you and Chris a bit. I think it cuts down on one of you guys dominating the conversation (a previous concern for some). Third chair takes the straight up back and forth nature of the show to a more roundtable natural conversation. I also think Dustin brings a new perspective in areas that you both don't have as much to say. Chris even sounds renewed on the last two episodes. I think having a new person to direct questions to or build upon their point helps a lot. Just stop saying boyz :-). Have a good one.

Ivan Hornett

I feel im the only one here which makes me a little bummed. I do enjoy Dustin and it's nothing against him but I prefer the duo. Again I don't wanna sound like an angry jerk. If he is added then so be it I will shut up. But figured I'd voice the opinion.

CLsquared

Jesus Christ, the Spanky moment is why I gladly give you money to talk in my ear. My garbage day at my job was 360 kickflipped into something bearable because of that.

Guns vs Kittens

Just to echo what everyone else is saying.... Dustin is great. He’s super nerdy and plays different games than you two, plans ahead for the podcast, and has shown he belongs. But I must also say, Chris seems to have more energy and be more engaged since he took the episode off. CDC should be the trio from here on out.

Matt Matlock

I’m digging the trio. Dustin brings a lot of knowledge and interesting takes to the table.

Gavvyn

As a hardcore sim racer I feel like I can contribute to the Gran Turismo discussion. In the console space, GT Sport is definitely not as popular or well regarded as Forza, but when it comes to online racing on a console, is as good as it gets. They modeled a lot of their online ranking and matchmaking systems off of iRacing, which is the gold standard of online racing. Driving mechanics wise GT Sport is better than the Forza Motorsport games as well. The newest Forza Motorsport also had lots of microtransactions and loot boxes, and in my opinion is a far cry from the earlier entries in the series. So while it may be a very niche group of people, who are looking for the most hardcore driving experience available, I think GT Sport is unbeatable on console, especially the online. The interesting part is it left me craving more and I end up spending all my sim racing now on iRacing on PC. Just my two cents Keep on keeping on.

Matthew Strunk

I personally love the three man group for this podcast. Dustin will add a new voice and can be the tiebreaker

DarthLemon616

Thank you!

Colin Moriarty

I think so, too.

Colin Moriarty

We're very glad to be here for you. Thanks for listening!

Colin Moriarty

Indeed.

Colin Moriarty

As always great work guys.

O

Great episode. Forgot to mention Insomniac’s Spyro games which I love. Sony’s exclusives are why I’ll never leave, and I have a feeling PS5 will deliver, even with all this GamePass nonsense.

Brandon Soto

Thanks for the great content, fellas. You know the guy that’s on the other end of the chat when you’re reaching out to support for something? That’s me, and let me tell you, having something to listen to week-in-and-week-out while I deal with the “charming” personalities in tech support has made my job so much better. Thanks, gents!

Mr. MacDeadly

I think Naughty Dog is still the best, they always create stories that stick with me for a long time and they always push the gaming hardware to its limits when it comes to visuals, sound, ai, and animation.

Sumojoe118

Pedantic.

Colin Moriarty

He sucks.

Colin Moriarty

We'll get more people involved, particularly with SS+.

Colin Moriarty

Maybe.

Colin Moriarty

Yeah, TLoU2 was definitely too long.

Colin Moriarty

I'm always listening. =)

Colin Moriarty

Cool. =D

Colin Moriarty

To the guy who wrote in about Insomniac saying that they're excited for Ratchet 2: This is not a sequel to Ratchet 2016. It's a sequel to Into The Nexus from 2013. Ratchet 2 released in 2003.

Jon Barnett

This Dustin guy, I like him a lot

Kyle Martin

I love Dustin, but I would love if Colin invites more people like Mama Micah and Mr Matty

Miguel Rosales

random question but if you 3 are doing the podcast could you screen capture and upload a video similar to Matty and Dustin's HAM podcast?

Reuben Barrett

To the Naughty Dog discussion. Just add more game to your video game or shorten the experience. The reason some people say Lost Legacy is the best Uncharted is because it's the perfect length for the limited gameplay, so it doesn't feel tedious. Other than that every other aspect is on point.

Piston Pants

Really glad Dustin is back. Thanks Colin for always listening to fan feedback. You guys are seriously the bright spot during my week. Always the thing that helps get me through my work. :)

Mewgia

CDC! Science, bitches! I got an urge to play Gran Turismo, for some reason. I just know that I'd get it and play it for a while and just stop. I haven't been into the racing genre in some time.

Max Stahl

No, that would be insane.

Colin Moriarty

Well whatever it was, I didn't see it. =) Welcome back!

Colin Moriarty

LOL.

Colin Moriarty

I generally agree.

Colin Moriarty

Yes indeed.

Colin Moriarty

Glad to hear it!

Colin Moriarty

Thank you. <3

Colin Moriarty

Thank you! <3

Colin Moriarty

We'll keep him in rotation. =)

Colin Moriarty

You're welcome.

Colin Moriarty

I don't play racing games.

Colin Moriarty

Thank you for your blessing, Rodney.

Colin Moriarty

I see.

Colin Moriarty

Are all Forza games arcade?

Colin Moriarty

I thought they were more similar than that.

Colin Moriarty

Fair enough.

Colin Moriarty

I think they're in peak form right now!

Colin Moriarty

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Colin Moriarty

Enjoy. <3

Colin Moriarty

He's alive. Well? I don't know.

Colin Moriarty

Likewise.

Colin Moriarty

Me too. =)

Colin Moriarty

Thanks!

Colin Moriarty

Thank you!

Colin Moriarty

I wasn't able to comment on the original post but I'm glad to hear Polyphony Digital wasn't last on the list. While the Forza series is formidable, I still prefer the physics and single player content in GT. I'm super pumped for GT7

Justin Chavarria

Can there be a patreon tier to win a karaoke night with this crew? Hearing Colin sing The Freshman and Chris do a Green Day song after a couple of pints would salvage my year

James Pies

I agree with the top 3, they are all interchangeable for sure

Douglas Coffin

“That’s good, but it’s also baseball” Chris is a treasure.

Gabe

Hope you’re wrong. Would be really bummed if Chris stepped away from Sacred Symbols

Zack Forney

I'm not done yet but so far this episode has been really great. Learned so much.

Explosivebob

Love the format, made for an overall positive episode where all the studios were complimented and criticized respectfully. Also thanks for the PlayStation All Stars shout out. The PS5 reboot for that series is gonna be lit!

Real Radec

The last time Colin was on a podcast and a different third person was invited in full time, it was because Colin and Greg were about to quit IGN. So is Chris getting ready to quit and that’s the reason for Dustin coming in on the last 3 SS podcasts?

Keith W

Dustin has been a great fit with you guys! Keep him as much as you can. You guys have great chemistry together.

Nick Moss

I feel you should keep having Dustin on the show. At the very least every other show.

Dr Stump

Thank you, gentlemen!

Derek Waechter

What on earth are you guys on in regards to Forza, you're obviously thinking of the Horizon series of Forza. Play the Motorsport series and your eyes will open.

Kenny C

I really like when Dustin is on the show. Have him on, anytime.

Rodney Ford

Also, Forza Motorsport is not better than GT. In game physics are not as real and people only prefer it because its easier and has lots of arcade style vehicle customization.

Romeo

Gran Turismo is unmatched in the simulator scene. Forza is an arcade style ok driving game for me. Gran Turismo is all about the sport of auto racing and making homage to its history.

Romeo

As far as simulation racing games go, Gran Turismo is tiers above Forza Motorsport. In the sim racing world Gran Turismo is king. Also, GT Sport is more of a competitive game so it can def. co-exist with the mainline GT. Great episode CDC.

Angelo Ponte

Viktor

While Naughty Dog are undoubtedly great I do really miss Amy Hennig and her team being there, can't help but think the Uncharted 1-3 era was their peak as a studio. Sony really need to throw money at Hennig to open her own new studio and develop whatever she likes!

Curtis (Bloobat)

*Colin starts singing* Ok boomer.

Romeo

Thanks y'all, looking forward to listening to this while I eat a sandwich for lunch today.

Explosivebob

Glad Chris isn't dead

Alexander McIntyre

Just about 5 weeks away! I'm so hyped for Series X and PS5!

Anthony J Sanchez

I love a good ordered list.

Dennis Johnson

Love Dustin on the shows! Great move guys!

Joey Gondhalekar

Keep up the great content guys! Doing amazing work :)

Andrew Arana