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Sacred Symbols, Episode 126: Arbitrage

There are a lot of understandably frustrated PlayStation fans out there right now. After all, PS5s are truly and persistently hard to come by, a situation unassisted by COVID, component shortages, a wobbly economy, and other macroeconomic factors. But -- much like the market for virtually any desirable object -- a vacuum has been created, facilitated by bot-assisted scalpers serving monied and desperate clienteles alike. Let's chat about this unfortunate situation with an open mind, and consider when Sony hopes this pileup of demand may clear up. Plus: New patents indicate a technically-impressive PSVR2, The Last of Us on HBO has officially gotten its first season order, Red Dead Online and Fortnite make changes in pursuit of an ever-distracted multiplayer audience, and much more. Then: Listener inquiries galore! Would Bluepoint and Konami make for the perfect marriage? Does obscure Norse mythology predict the next God of War's release date? Should developers be offering more linear routes through their non-linear games? What does it mean when one listener's girlfriend tells him she "really likes falling in love" with him?

Timestamps:

0:00:17 - Intro.
0:03:24 - Apparently, the new Ratchet game isn't called A Rift Apart.
0:04:33 - One listener wonders: Has PS5 already lost its luster?
0:12:12 - You've been warned: Cyberpunk 2077 is out in the wild.
0:15:12 - You can now transfer your saves between Spider-Man on PS4 and PS5.
0:19:34 - A few smaller news items of note.
0:29:00 - When is the right time to say "I love you" in a relationship?
0:32:18 - What have we been playing?
0:48:03 - PlayStation 5 is really hard to find. People are frustrated.
0:55:45 - New Sony patents point towards PSVR2.
0:59:15 - December's free PlayStation Plus games have been revealed.
1:00:56 - The Last of Us HBO series gets a full season order.
1:02:49 - Neo: The World Ends With You has been announced.
1:04:28 - Red Dead Online is getting a standalone release.
1:05:57 - Fortnite is getting a subscription service.
1:08:03 - Far Cry 6's new release date leaks.
1:09:22 - Square Enix opts to let its employees work from home permanently.
1:14:50 - Minor game announcements and release date information.
1:17:01 - This week's intriguing new releases.
1:19:06 - How do we feel about the redesigned PlayStation Store?
1:22:33 - What games should Bluepoint remake next?
1:25:32 - Could the next God of War game's release date be in line with Norse lore?
1:29:51 - Is Microsoft the unheralded "Thought Leader" of the industry?
1:35:04 - Is PS5 actually more powerful than Xbox Series X?
1:39:31 - Why don't open world games offer players a more curated experience?
1:43:41 - What will this generation's 'finesse' be?

Sacred Symbols, Episode 126: Arbitrage

Comments

I'm sure I will, I'm in no rush though. It will happen when they are available. Glad to hear you're enjoying yours though. =) Happy Festivus.

Kam Wallis

Duly noted.

Colin Moriarty

I was using the Store yesterday and noticed a few weird omissions...

Colin Moriarty

We're glad you enjoyed the show. =)

Colin Moriarty

I hope you find one. =)

Colin Moriarty

I'm a reader of books.

Colin Moriarty

Outperforming in which way?

Colin Moriarty

Stop telling lies, people!

Colin Moriarty

Chris has gone up in my estimations for recommending katamari 😊

Kelly Perkins

Sony, where is the Deals section on the PS5 Store? It's on the PS4 and the phone app but not the PS5? Crazy

Wyvborn

Hey Colin and the kid(s), the show is now on the highpoint ever! I think the „state of CLS“ SS+ episode was essential to the highest quality ever! I think you did a lot right before but the talking with us catapulted you, Dustin and esspessially Chris much higher! Chris is awake, interested and invested! The trio of you have much more dynamic and flowing! awesome! And I was a critik of the 3-some (u turned me and showed me I was wrong!). So I wanted to say this and hope you continue the awesome ride and I love to pay my part here! Thanks a lot and keep jerking off ( sorry :/) greetings, Eugene P.S. Please do more random talking at the beginning

Eugen R.

Honestly my only reason for wanting/needing a PS5 is my PS4 Pro has begun overheating consistently. I tried to take the console apart to apply new thermal paste, but manufacturing defects in the screwheads are preventing me from being able to take it apart. Hence I need a replacement console, so why buy another PS4 Pro when I can upgrade to the PS5 and still play my PS4 games.

Kam Wallis

At the time of recording it was documented the XSX outperforms the PS5 in Black Ops Cold War's 60 fps RT mode (see timestamped citation from Digital Foundry: https://youtu.be/RnZAN91pUiw?t=651). This appears to have been a glitch however, since restarting checkpoints makes these frame drops disappear. On a similar note, the AC Valhalla patch 1.04 greatly improved performance on Series X, reaching essentially parity with the PS5 version of the game (at a more stable 60 frames, but drops to a lower dynamic resolution lower bound). Chris did not botch the segment.

miniAJ

Colin - how come you know how to correctly pronounce the name of the English town "Reading" ? I am convinced that you're actually a massive Anglophile.

Ed White

No mention of the PS5 outperforming the XSX? Edit: Sorry, they did briefly talk about it. But as usual, missing Dustin’s insight there. Chris botched this segment. CoD performs better on the PS5 in all modes.

Dee Han

What's frustrating is listening to people telling lies about how the PS5 works. The PS5 does download PS5 versions of games by default. To download a PS4 version of a game, you need to select the PS4 version in the playstation store. If you select the PS5 version, you literally need to click on a box that says PS4 version after hitting download of the PS5 version. If you rushed through the process and clicked that, that's on you, Chris. Also, not only does the PS5 say PS4 right next to any game title that is a PS4 version on the main dashboard, but it also has a PS4 Icon on the PS4 games in the library. Also any time you want you can click options, game version, and choose the PS5 version. What pisses me off even more is the suggestion that we shouldn't be able to download the PS4 version at all on PS5. How does that make any sense???? So if we own both, we should lose all access to games we own just because people like Chris are too stupid to be able to notice that they downloaded and switched to the PS4 version of a game? No. I'm not losing options and games that I paid for just because people can't pay attention.

Hugo Stiglitz

Your statement is correct. That being said the passive income off a console is nowhere near the same. I’m shocked you of all people colin are making this argument as you yourself have said this before about money earned off a item. Windows isn’t the same as getting a cut off games sold on your platform. Even if the platform itself makes less money to make eliminating your consoles value by publishing all games and giving them your sub service does limit the worth of your console. Let’s face it your not playing a native game on your tv it’s streaming. Same with your phone. Gamepass ultimate is supposed to be that massive value spike without the need for physical hardwear or a add on to work with it. To have a console and then devalue your own console to make less money from games sales on another platform isn’t adding up to me. I would have to see the real number data to how this would even make sense.

Adamthm

I don't agree with your assessment! Microsoft has traditionally been a software and services company. Xbox (and now Surface) are really the only two notable, successful examples otherwise, going back to Microsoft's founding in the late '70s.

Colin Moriarty

<3

Colin Moriarty

I do what I can.

Colin Moriarty

I will say this if Microsoft made a console just to put all their games on their competitions same console then they will lose way more money. There is 0 point to get pay for ea play on gamepass and spend the hundreads of millions on rnd to make make not one but 2 consoles. It would be the biggest waste of money a company could ever do. I get the streaming aspect but putting stuff fully one ps5 would actively counter their money making power greatly. I said all their games to not just some exceptions.

Adamthm

Who knew I’d enjoy a C&C relationship advice section so much. That was wonderful. 🤗

PhantomMothStew

How can someone say Col hates the Brits? He's the only American I've ever heard pronounce Reading properly. Well done man

James Schubert

He's saying Batman as a character is boring, and I love Batman, but I don't disagree. I really like the villains!

Colin Moriarty

It's an interesting conversation, nonetheless.

Colin Moriarty

I think it's the intent that matters.

Colin Moriarty

PS5 says I spent 25 hours with it, which can't possibly be true. But I'd say I spent at least 10 hours.

Colin Moriarty

I just don't even participate.

Colin Moriarty

I'll never forget it.

Colin Moriarty

To be fair, the stock market is an aboveboard, priced market.

Colin Moriarty

That's an issue with your TV. Barry may have insight; Tweet at Lillymo!

Colin Moriarty

We'll always give you our honest takes!

Colin Moriarty

You're welcome. Thanks for listening!

Colin Moriarty

I kinda get the vibe he talks out of both sides of his mouth.

Colin Moriarty

I don't always have the time to play what I want... especially this year!

Colin Moriarty

It's awesome.

Colin Moriarty

Good luck!

Colin Moriarty

Napster was invented at Northeastern University, so it rules.

Colin Moriarty

Micah and I are gonna play together this winter.

Colin Moriarty

=\

Colin Moriarty

Hey, I didn't question it. =)

Colin Moriarty

Well, that's what he means: Why put in the effort and resources.

Colin Moriarty

=D

Colin Moriarty

You oughta!

Colin Moriarty

He'll always be back.

Colin Moriarty

We shall see. The patent filings suggest something could be in the works.

Colin Moriarty

I don't think there's anything wrong with waiting, particularly this time around.

Colin Moriarty

It's serendipitous how I bought three "the right way".

Colin Moriarty

Never!!!

Colin Moriarty

For Jason’s comment: I’m on the complete other side. I can’t go back to last-gen after experiencing the faster download speeds, the faster load times, and 60fps. “Maybe he is. Maybe he’s dead.” 😅 Chris says Batman is incredibly boring. I don’t get this. Batman is arguably the most popular comic character right along with Spider-Man. Best part of Batman is that you could argue Batman is who he is and Bruce is the mask. The TTG series played with this concept very well. As for Spidey, I’m team Pete in both gameplay and voice acting. I hope they twist Venom around in the sequel and make it Miles who goes bad if anything. Although I think making it co-op would be wild.

NeO JD

YES

NeO JD

I don’t think they care as long as the money is good.

NeO JD

I can be somewhat sympathetic toward someone who decides they actually don't want the console and attempts to resell it. But selling it for gratuitous profit is what makes a Scalper. If you sell a $500 console for double the price you spent...that makes you a scalper. You have scalped a console at that point. And most importantly, scalping is making next gen consoles only accessible to the super-rich (as you mentioned, doctors and lawyers). Whether you're selling in bulk or a single unit, if you sell a PS5 for $1000, you're making console gaming a "rich-kid" experience this holiday season

Jack Sibert

I would love to see blue point do Legend of the Dragoon’s. Just to see what it would look like. Something that rivals ff7 remake

Kenneth Oms

Yeah...scalpers ain't getting a 2 shit lickity-split sympathy from me. If you can afford to get one and re-sale, there was never intent on keeping it. Ima keep reigning down on my pillar of salt.

Frank G.

Oh and Miles Morales is $50 btw. It is certainly longer than people give it credit for

Josh Lucas

You guys should check out the replies to any IGN tweet talking about the consoles. The tribalism and fan boy-ism is worse than it has been in awhile in my opinion. I grew up in the 90s and experienced that Sega Nintendo console war but it never felt like this. It could just be because people can be anonymous online now and couldn’t back then. It’s def not really a big deal though or worth leaving the industry over.

Josh Lucas

That story about Colin's ex not hearing him say he loves her back sounds like the plot of a Seinfeld episode. I can visualize George waving his hands around - 'I SAID IT BAACK!' :D

So chris, is buying stock scalping??? You buy a shit ton with the intention to unload it for a profit. Intent is subjective and is frankly no one else’s business. Those who are getting ripped off are generally those who can afford it. Ya damn commie. Love ya.

Travis B

I also wanted to bring up an issue I'm having with Twin Breaker on PS4 where the edge of the screen is shaved off a tad bit. You can see most of the hearts and the time but the sides are clipped. I tried messing with the screen output settings on the PS4 but it didn't take and there's no such menu in-game. Anyway, maybe you could patch it so that it responds to some kind of screen output setting. Should I just get a new tv? Is it part of the retro aspect of it? Love everything CLS. Trying to love one more thing

ur ppnballs

Hey C+C,Long time fan finally piping up, great episode. I like the honesty about some the luster of the new console wearing off.

ur ppnballs

Thanks for answering my question, great episode!

Reuben Barrett

I don’t think it’s weak of Phil Spencer to point out the toxicity of the fandoms. Dude inherited a mess and had to gut and rebuild the brand (much like our Jets are currently in the process of doing with Joe Douglas rebuilding it, god willing), all while facing online vitriol for the lack of new IP on Xbox One when it seemed obvious they wanted to move away from Xbox One as soon as possible (probably why they formally showed Series X almost a year before release). I felt like he punted last generation in favor of putting his eggs in the Series X/S basket. It should be interesting to see this choice play out. Competition keeps everyone sharp, us consumers will win out long-term.

Stephen Forgione

I feel like I need to second Joseph's complaint about the PS5 store. I literally only use the PS store to shop for deals, so the fact that Sony removed the options to search only for discounts is completely baffling to me. I am thankful that Colin is finally making his way through FF7 Remake. I can't believe it took this long, but I'm glad nonetheless. And yes. This month might take the cake on the worst PS Plus offering of the year.

ToastIX

So happy to hear that Colin is really enjoying Final Fantasy VII Remake! My personal game of the generation

Shadi Haddad

I’ve tried like 5 times to buy the PS5! It sold out in seconds on Walmart on Wednesday , but I’m still holding out hope 🤞🏻

Jennifer Luviano

Napster AOL MySpace Being first to market doesn’t earn anyone anything. All about who can perfect and streamline. Don’t think Apple has had an original thought since their incorporation.

DeucesBruh

I feel like Colin would really enjoy the Dead Ops Arcade mode in COD Cold War

The Lizard King

Still don’t have a PS5. Scalpers, bots, regular paying customers; Sony doesn’t care. They wanna sell as many units as possible. It’s a good problem to have on their part.

Brandon Soto

Listening to you guys question whether Oxford was a real place or not gave me a good chuckle. Also, an English County that ends with 'shire' is pronounced 'shear'. So Oxfordshear or where I'm from: Leicestershear.

TROTMAC96

Chris saying “Rockstar’s incentive to make another Grand Theft Auto is so low” is one of the craziest things he’s ever said on this show, and this man proudly showers with his glasses on. I get what he’s suggesting in that they’ll keep making money through GTA Online, but it’s one of the most successful franchises of all time so I’d say the incentive is pretty high to keep that series alive with another entry even if online is a notable part of the package.

Cannonball_Jones

In today’s entry Chris explains the importance of skin to meat ratio and Colin goes over his preference of dark meat. Be well everybody 😎

Y'all convinced me to get Pathless as soon as I can. Want to support such a creative team and the musical genius Austin Wintory.

Alan Hardee

Man we need more Dustin during the tech talk stuff. He showed how well he knows his stuff in the sacred symbols plus episode.

Edson

On PSVR, I feel like we will see an updated unit this year because Sony cannot wait too long in the face of upcoming hardware like the Oculus Quest... also I am feeling like that lack of a PSVR bundle for the U.S. hints that a newer unit is coming here sooner rather than later. On a side note I want to commend Sony for making the PS4->PS5 camera adaptor free for anyone with a PSVR, they could have easily sold that part but they did the right thing by current PSVR owners.

Kendall Helmstetter Gelner

This is the first console launch I’ve skipped and I have to agree waiting felt like the right move. The white console and lack of exclusive games locked my choice to wait for a limited edition hopefully in a different color. The one thing I really want to play on next genie CyberPunk, but I’m thinking I just play on PC if I want the ultra settings to show the game off.

James Galos

Glad you guys finally came around to realizing how impossible it is to get a PS5 preorder. Early on when you said if you want it bad enough and are attentive you can get one no problem I wanted to poop myself in frustration. It is impossible. Bots take stock before you can even hit the checkout page.

Brandon Shallenberger

When Colin announced Princess Mononoke, I had to watch it before the podcast, no regrets here, loved the movie. Thank you. Now Avatar, please 😘

Marco Maluf

Stick to PlayStation Direct, it's the safest way to have a fair chance at snagging one. Once in the queue keep refreshing even though it says not to. You'll find the wait time will go down after a few minutes of refreshing. It's worked twice for me, try it out my friend.

Rey Leija

One person bought a total of 32 Playstation 5 consoles from two different Walmart stores just this morning. I work for Coca Cola so I visit a ton of Walmarts. They showed me a picture of the guy walking out with two carts filled with Playstations. Walmart needs to fix its online situation, this is bad.

Rey Leija

The fact I have tried 7 different occasions with 2 screens and still STILL cannot find this god damn machine because they’re gone within 60 seconds is beyond frustrating

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