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Sacred Symbols, Episode 127: Bye-oWare

We were about to wrap-up recording this week's show when some unexpected news broke: Long-time BioWare creative leads Casey Hudson and Mark Darrah have both left the EA-owned dev, and one can't help but wonder if they were pushed out the door. After all, modern BioWare is a far cry from the glory days of yore. We make sure to discuss these notable exits, though they come as a sort of ironic twist, since we had already planned to talk about some high-profile departures from Bend Studio and Japan Studio, too. Plus: PlayStation 5 is doing huge numbers (though we don't exactly know how many have been sold, per se), Square Enix is remastering its PSone JRPG Saga Frontier (though we're unclear why), Aardman Animation and Bandai Namco are getting into bed with one another (continuing Bandai Namco's westward movement), and more. Then: Listener inquiries! Will COVID permanently change the way games are made? What older games could benefit most from haptic feedback? Does DualSense's sticks get the convex/concave mixture just a little bit wrong? What if every time you farted, you also cried?

Timestamps:

0:00:17 - Intro.
0:08:19 - Habroxia 2 comes to PS4 and Vita on February 3rd, 2021!
0:10:42 - Are we missing the new Ratchet & Clank title innuendo?
0:14:21 - Playstation 3 got a new firmware update!
0:15:05 - People are apparently selling access to the PS+ Collection.
0:17:21 - Single-player gaming is apparently booming on PlayStation.
0:19:01 - Can Chris please stop using the term "buttery smooth"?
0:20:38 - A question about milk and cereal.
0:23:06 - Fart talk.
0:24:21 - What have we been playing?
0:45:02 - Casey Hudson and Mark Darrah leave BioWare.
0:50:54 - Sony loses some key first party talent.
1:05:42 - PlayStation 5 sells big in the UK, Spain, and Japan.
1:09:11 - Saga Frontier is being remastered for PS4.
1:12:25 - Aardman Animation is collaborating with Bandai Namco on new IP.
1:17:02 - Square Enix confirms: Avengers bombed.
1:20:17 - SNK's new majority owner is the (very controversial) Saudi Crown Prince.
1:26:14 - Final Fantasy XIV is getting new announcements in February.
1:29:26 - These are December's new PlayStation Now games.
1:30:00 - A couple of random items of Cyberpunk 2077 news.
1:33:21 - Minor game announcements and release date information.
1:34:52 - This week's new intriguing releases.
1:40:31 - What will COVID's long-term effects be on the gaming industry?
1:43:56 - What PS4 games would benefit from DualSense functionality?
1:48:11 - Politicians and streaming: Good combination?
1:51:30 - What do we think of Super Nintendo World?
1:53:59 - DualSense's sticks and convex versus concave.
1:57:24 - Are we misreading the market for game-to-TV/movie adaptations?

Sacred Symbols, Episode 127: Bye-oWare

Comments

Haha. Highlight of my day.

Not Sure

True enough.

Colin Moriarty

Turns out... I was right. =)

Colin Moriarty

Congrats!

Colin Moriarty

Well, I'm trying to be respectful of our listeners there who obviously have nothing to do with it.

Colin Moriarty

I don't know about that!

Colin Moriarty

=\

Colin Moriarty

Roger that.

Colin Moriarty

It's because I'm the source. =)

Colin Moriarty

I don't wanna. =\

Colin Moriarty

Speak with your wallet. =)

Colin Moriarty

I'll see what I can do.

Colin Moriarty

Thanks for your feedback and kind words. =)

Colin Moriarty

You're a good goalie.

Colin Moriarty

I would have preferred that (and played it).

Colin Moriarty

I'm sure I will.

Colin Moriarty

That's true.

Colin Moriarty

Oh no.

Colin Moriarty

I'll be the judge of that.

Colin Moriarty

That would be nice.

Colin Moriarty

That could have been the intention. =)

Colin Moriarty

Chris doesn't read the comments. =\

Colin Moriarty

I'm happy people are excited about it.

Colin Moriarty

Correct.

Colin Moriarty

They'll give it two more gos with the new Mass Effect and Dragon Age games, I suppose!

Colin Moriarty

Thank you. <3

Colin Moriarty

Yeah, it's a bummer. I'll wait!

Colin Moriarty

That's our brand.

Colin Moriarty

Glad to hear it.

Colin Moriarty

Probably so.

Colin Moriarty

My pleasure.

Colin Moriarty

Yes.

Colin Moriarty

The glory days are done.

Colin Moriarty

=D

Colin Moriarty

Yeah, I don't mind it at all so far.

Colin Moriarty

Really? Link me. =)

Colin Moriarty

Noted.

Colin Moriarty

Yeah, not been privy to that, I don't think.

Colin Moriarty

Damn you, Dustin!!!

Colin Moriarty

Yes.

Colin Moriarty

They're great!

Colin Moriarty

Let's just not talk about this anymore.

Colin Moriarty

Yes, correct.

Colin Moriarty

Great! =)

Colin Moriarty

Yeah, I'm looking forward to checking it out.

Colin Moriarty

I suppose.

Colin Moriarty

Yes, he is out.

Colin Moriarty

Colin your comments about Saudi Arabia are all correct but worth pointing out that there are far more moderate countries out there which have also outlawed homosexuality and have the death penalty for drugs. Singapore and Malaysia, for example.

Ed White

Really disappointed to hear that Colin won't be playing CP2077 right away, which means no spoiler cast or extended discussion. Honestly, I'm really surprised. This is probably the biggest game of the year (hype wise)-- comparable to a multi-platform The Last of Us 2 in hype. I was really looking forward to the deep discussion between you guys on the story. Then again, I'd never want Colin to play something he just absolutely does not want to play just for the show, so I understand.

Dave Carsley

People weren't selling access to their accounts. People that have a PS5 were offering, for a fee, to log in as other people that don't have PS5's. Then they go into the PS5 store on the non-PS5 person's account and redeem the Playstation Plus Collection on that non-PS5 person's account. The non-PS5 person can now fire up their PS4 and have access to the Playstation Plus Collection of games. This is happening because the collection can't be claimed through the web store or on a PS4 - ONLY through the store on a PS5. Once redeemed, the PS4 games are playable on a PS4 though - no PS5 required.

Duncan Middleton

Boys!!! Guess so just got his tickets to next-gen!!! Was able to order my ps5 off playstation direct today. I cant stand Twitter but it came in handy this time!

Cat Daddy

You guys really tiptoed around that murderous dick that happens to be Arab...it doesn’t make you a racist to speak plainly about murderers. He’s a n admitted murderer that happens to be Arab, not a murderer because he’s Arab. Just speak your mind. It was weird to listen to you two tiptoe through those Tulips.

BlindRiot

Personally I’m really excited about Neil Driuckman having little to know involvement in NDogs next project...he’s been enjoying his own farts a bit too much.

BlindRiot

Just something to consider.

Oliver

What if the ouiji board wasn’t saying you will die at the age of 23 but instead on the 23rd day of a month?

Oliver

Colin, be aware Sackboy platinum isn't a breeze. One trophy in particular is get gold time in 15 time trial stages back to back with one life.

Lee Bull

I’ve literally seen articles about job listings for Bend for an action open world game as news for Days Gone 2 but didn’t see anything about that tweet/interaction you had with Jeff Ross, even though it’s way bigger news in my opinion. I’m stoked! It was safe to assume that they would make a Days Gone 2, but that’s definitely the closest we’ve come to a confirmation yet. The mods of the Days Gone subreddit won’t let me post the tweets, saying it’s “gossip” lol. Edit: I am now permanently banned from the days gone subreddit for trying to get to the bottom of why they won’t let me post it. What nut jobs

Josh Lucas

Ok, I've got to answer this one. You pour a full bowl of milk first, then a top layer of cereal. Once u finish the top layer then u pour another top layer. This is to not have soggy cereal. To keep it fresh and crunchy. U should try being a psychopath sometime.

Not Sure

We need rush plushes asap

lazer_josh

Def boycotting snk

lazer_josh

Hey Colin - just wanted to chime in to say that I think a four-person GOTY discussion with you, Chris, Dustin and Matty sounds amazing. I love you and Chris and am eagerly awaiting your GOTY episode, but I do like the dynamic presented by more of a roundtable for this kind of thing. So eager to see what 2021 will bring for CLS - love the longer episodes, the branching out and all of the snarky humor. Looking forward to seeing more from Dustin, Matty and Micah as well (I hope)!

Giovanni D'Amico

"Maybe I'll give you the D next week." Nothing gets past me, Colin!

SnipaMasta

I have a few friends who told me they totally would have bought Avengers if it was just a tight Uncharted like adventure. The second you say its a Destiny clone it knocks the wind outa your sails. This is like when World of Warcraft came out and everyone wanted to get in on that action. Really sucks because FF7 was so damn good I hope Square isn't going to cut corners on part 2 because of this.

Luke Silletta

Its kinda been covered before, Colin won't give it much coverage if he's skeptical of the source of the leaks.

Craig Mcguire

I don’t know what that means but I have a buddy that plays League and it’s the only game he plays. And he plays it 4-5 days a week and has been for years. Pretty much the opposite of how I game.

JT

Pretty sure AOC is Silver III tier in League of Legends, which means she's an uber nerd and is way better than most people at video games including myself haha

Reuben Barrett

Say "this space" one more time, Colin. I dare you!

Max Stahl

Chris's take on the Uncharted movie being better than the Last of Us show has to be the worst take ever uttered on this show. It has notably bad writers and directors attached and Tom Holland has been apart of bad movies before. Look up Chaos Walking. The Last of Us show has the creator of Chernobyl and Neil Druckmann attached. There's a significant difference between the level of talent among the two productions.

Brannon H

Having the 4 of you on the GOTY episode sounds perfect. Please do it. Maybe even put Micah on and make it 5. 👀 People selling access to their accounts is nothing new. In fact, I don’t think there’s anything wrong with it except when 1 person sells their account to multiple people. This is what I think caused red flags and made PS step in. “Yeah, I don’t know if it’s gonna be the good kind of eating of the ass.” 😄 I haven’t thought about the convex vs concave sticks before. Don’t know if I have a preference. To Chris’ point though, this gen definitely has the best controllers so far. I was pleasantly surprised with the Series X controller, mainly the grips and padding. I’d take Chris up on that adaptation bet. I don’t think Uncharted comes out better than TLoU. Even the promotional still from the movie so far does nothing for me.

NeO JD

Damn I should have wrote in and warned Chris that at 27 every Puerto Rican starts to lose their hairline

Kenneth Oms

FFXIV is fucking amazing ❤

Romeo

People always forget Ratchet & Clank: Tools of Destruction in 2007, the prequel to A Crack in Time. It also didn’t have trophies. We really do need all Ratchet games on PS4/PS5.

Brandon Soto

Just noticed this!! Thanks 😊

Jennifer Luviano

Avengers should have been on pace to come out alongside the Avengers Endgame (movie) . When everyone had avengers fever and would have bought the game regardless

Andrew

Hey Chris, We have similar taste in music apparently, what is your favorite King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard album? Also do you listen to Chapotraphouse?

Stefan Catinella

I'm glad you guys returned to the HBO LoU topic because you touched on exactly how I was feeling. I got my non-gamer girlfriend to binge both Last Of Us games and she loved it, especially Part II. I showed her a little bit of Uncharted after and she was excited that the Tom Holland movie was happening. And with my mom, her favorite book is City of Thieves, which LoU is inspired by, so this will be the closest thing to an adaptation she'll be able to see. I really think this show is all good news.

Oliver Johnson

You heard it here first! Chris wants the least amount of friction while “spraying a guy” 😂

Oliver Johnson

The jig’s been up with BioWare for a while now. Their last good game was Dragon Age: Inquisition. New leadership is needed, but if their next games are duds, the studio should just fold.

Brandon Soto

Just beat Twin Breaker. Fantabularisticocious game. 10/10 would go through a wormhole again. You know it's made with love because there's a really hard pink level.

ur ppnballs

Colin is right about the PS5 controller dock being scarce. As surprisingly easy it was for me to preorder then get my PS5, the charging dock was put on backorder four times by Target until I said screw it and canceled it and got a third party one instead.

Piston Pants

Gentlemen, the amount of thought you put into the obscure and trivial (and weird) during the opening segment is incredible. Please do not change.

James McGivern

Learning that Chris is a fan of King Gizz really made my day.

leaf lettuce

Casey Hudson leaving and bringing in new blood might end up being a good thing for the studio. Only time will tell. Happy birthday Chris!

Anthony J Sanchez

Farting is indeed 'fun'. Thank you Colin for fighting the good fight.

Your Boi Nicky V

My wife pours milk first, then she puts cereal. Do you tink i should file for divorce?

Anastas Lyakh

Lmao the title

Josh Lucas

It’s a shame about Bioware. They were my favorite dev studio growing up, with games that made them the best developer in the industry for the better part of a decade. Hopefully they can recapture the quality that made them great in the first place (with new blood since most of the old guard is gone now).

Stephen Forgione

Happy to hear I'm not alone in liking the controller audio on PS5. I turned it off on PS4 early on, but I feel like it's really well utilized with the Dualsense.

Jason Bolla

Shoutout to my friend Jenny Luviano getting her question read! :) yas!

Will Hahn

Dudes... I’m just sitting here chilling on my comfy couch, playing Ghost of Tsushima in 4K/60FPS on my PS5, and listening to this episode of Sacred Symbols. Life is pretty good. Also, Colin, I’m not sure if you know who Finn McKenty is on YouTube, but he has a pretty popular alternative music channel and he shouted out CLS in the first minute of his viewer questions episode last week. Dumbfounded, I had to jump back a few times to verify.

Madshibs

Listen to me and listen to me RIGHT NOW...I don’t care what I have to pay I will order a damn Rush-Plush wearing a Sacred Symbols shirt model. Please; the people beg you to make this for sale.

A Hind D

very surprised you haven' heard about the 27 club Colin

Jack Doheny

I'm so glad the part with Rush and the toy was not cut, thank you Dustin

Lucas Gremista

Why? The whole point is to sell more PS5s. Sony isn't supporting PS4 much longer.

Jake Z

Lol Chris clearly doesn’t like talking about himself farting or shitting and yet Colin makes his son talk about it episode after episode. I love it.

Cannonball_Jones

I was trippin out on how good the water haptics in Bugsnax were too haha

Jake Z

I don't think the lads gave enough consideration to the agency one still possesses over their fart in the weeping scenario - I would rather be able to excuse myself to a secluded area to let one rip while having a good cry than uncontrollably cropdust every time I find something funny, regardless of context.

Allan Sweeney

Can I just say if you openly weeped everythime you fart. If you a silent fart you would just suddenly have a mental break down and people would think your insane

Adamthm

A bit surprised that there was no mention about the rumors of silent hills and the metal gear solid remake that has apparently been in the works for the last three years at bluepoint, alongside demon's souls. The youtuber Moore's Law is Dead seemed pretty confident about his source. He was also the first one to talk about God of War Ragnarok before it was shown. Was hoping to hear Colin's opinion on it.

Edson

So the issue with the PS+ collection is that you can download and play the games in the collection on PS4 only if you have already claimed them on a PS5. So people are selling others access by signing them into their PS5 as a guest and claiming the titles so that then those people, who are PS+ subscribers but do not own a PS5 the ability to then download them for free on their PS4. The selling of access is an issue, however, Sony locking those titles behind PS5 ownership is pretty shiesty. Sony should allow PS4 owners that are PS+ subscribers access to the collection as well and this would not be an issue.

Dude is right about Sackboy. Been playing couch co-op with the Wife, it's a perfect girlfriend game. You and Micah will be stoked.

four24twenty

Yeah that listener is correct. I'm currently listening to this trying to get the Platinum. This is a great and charming game and fantastic co op game. Good thing you and Micah are gonna get those multiplayer trophies ou of the way.

Real Radec

Some people out in the wild sniff farts and get off so Ratchet & Clank Rift Apart might be more kinky and sexual than what you think 🤷🏽‍♂️🤔

Casey Hudson is out? Palace Intrigue continues!! Was he not brought back in '17 to help right a foundering ship? I look forward to this episode and lament the loss of a great storyteller and the eventual fall of his former house

Rob Aitken


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