KnockBack, Episode 159 | Rewriting Star Wars: Episode VII
Added 2021-02-22 17:01:02 +0000 UTCWe're pretty hard on Star Wars here on KnockBack. But it's only because we care so damn much! Yet, we're rarely (if ever) asked to put up or shut up when it comes to the topic... until now. As voted on by our listeners, this episode is the first of three that will be dedicated to the new Star Wars trilogy, but through a simple lens: If given free reign, what would our new trilogy look like, one that takes place after the events of Return of the Jedi and includes as much or as little of established lore as possible? Well, today, we open our respective trilogies with our Episode VIIs. Dagan sets up a tale of familial redemption through haunting spectres of Darth Vader's past. Colin writes about an out-of-control corporation commanded by a religious prophet intent on showing the lies of the Force. They are very different stories from each other, and certainly different from canon. Naturally, we hope you enjoy both.
Comments
This topic was... interesting. I didn't like the idea at first and thought "This topic is just going to make you guys hate the new movies even more", but on the other hand, it's cool that you guys put your money where your mouths are, considering how much you both criticize the new films. My one critique is that it would've been more interesting to hear you both draft an original pitch to Lucasfilm as oppose to these rewrites, but maybe that's an idea for a future episode ( OwO )
MikeLee
2021-03-05 20:30:24 +0000 UTCDearest Super Moriarty bros, I hope all is well with you both. I am absolutely loving your guys take on re-writing the Sequels, but Colin....I can't believe you had the GALL to name a Star Wars character "Karen". This is just outright offensive. Is she (he?) by any chance related to the equally terribly named Kyle Kataarn? It is clear all those Karen Compilation's on youtube are having a negative effect on your mental health. Anyways, love the show and all the amazing content at Last Stand Media. Thanks as always and GOOD DAY SIRS
Brock Thomas Walsh
2021-03-05 17:51:46 +0000 UTCLooking forward to the next episodes! Both of these stories are amazing! One suggestion, on the next episode, do all of the story and set up of one movie and then tackle the other. Listening to both stories swapping back and forth was a bit harder to keep them straight in my head.
Othtober
2021-03-04 04:16:29 +0000 UTCProbably the best podcast I've heard after all these years (defos Top 3) - can't WAIT to hear whats in store for the next two episodes!
Richard Darling
2021-03-02 22:13:18 +0000 UTCThank you. <3
Colin Moriarty
2021-03-01 16:49:58 +0000 UTCMy favorite episode so far! love these kind of topics
KomakiKhaos
2021-03-01 13:31:40 +0000 UTCUs too! =D
Colin Moriarty
2021-02-28 21:27:32 +0000 UTCThank you. <3
Colin Moriarty
2021-02-28 21:27:27 +0000 UTCThese were both great ideas, I love the mysteries you both built up and I'm excited to find out what happens next.
Sumojoe118
2021-02-28 15:42:24 +0000 UTCI feel like I need to take notes to know what is happening and where one person left off. Hahaha
Context Should Matter
2021-02-26 14:56:53 +0000 UTCI think the corporation aspect of this writing breakdown was the best part. Good stuff Colin and D.
Andrew
2021-02-25 04:08:17 +0000 UTCYeah, I think I need to have more of a crescendo moment. I'll retcon. =)
Colin Moriarty
2021-02-24 18:59:26 +0000 UTCThank you. <3
Colin Moriarty
2021-02-24 18:59:13 +0000 UTCWe'll do it more linearly next time.
Colin Moriarty
2021-02-24 18:59:09 +0000 UTCThat would be fun!
Colin Moriarty
2021-02-24 18:59:01 +0000 UTCMaybe one day. I'm not thrilled with Disney. =)
Colin Moriarty
2021-02-24 18:58:55 +0000 UTCIt's not very well-explored in the Star Wars EU stuff I'm familiar with!
Colin Moriarty
2021-02-24 18:58:42 +0000 UTCYeah, we'll be more linear next time.
Colin Moriarty
2021-02-24 18:58:28 +0000 UTCHeh heh.
Colin Moriarty
2021-02-24 18:58:21 +0000 UTCThank you!
Colin Moriarty
2021-02-24 18:58:15 +0000 UTCYes, I think we'll do that moving forward.
Colin Moriarty
2021-02-24 18:58:10 +0000 UTCPossibly one day! We are doing this because the fans voted for it, so let's work through this first, and then see. =)
Colin Moriarty
2021-02-24 18:58:03 +0000 UTCKnock back becoming my favorite CLS show. Dagan is so great. Also - Colin your story was so interesting but it felt like (just like you ended up realizing) that you had 2 acts of 1 movie. Can’t wait for the next installments of this one!
Max Davis
2021-02-24 16:35:24 +0000 UTCOne of my favorite episodes
Finsoreo
2021-02-24 11:30:27 +0000 UTCI am here to second the idea for the directors cut.
Tyler Bello
2021-02-24 06:32:09 +0000 UTCI love this episode but why did you guys alternate? Made it harder to follow the story both of these were excellent I wish I would of been able to just sit back and visualize each one, one at a time.
Tyler Bello
2021-02-24 06:22:19 +0000 UTCFuckin great episode guys! You should do one re-writing the 4th Indiana Jones movie who's name I will not speak
jacob cunningham
2021-02-24 05:59:15 +0000 UTCGreat episode. Colin- I’m sure you’ve been recommended the recent SW cartoons before... but they deal a lot with underworld & bounty hunter characters. The shows are worth digging into, and there’s lists of skippable episodes to avoid.
Kenneth Koepnick
2021-02-23 22:56:21 +0000 UTCLol the second I heard giant corporation I was like yep definitely a Colin idea haha. Both these ideas are pretty brilliant though, especially the evangelical one. I can just imagine the force being butchered on some sunday morning telly
Reuben Barrett
2021-02-23 19:56:10 +0000 UTCIt was a good episode but I think next time you should go one at a time. It was hard to follow the stories jumping back and forth
brody_low
2021-02-23 16:57:16 +0000 UTCAlso, he gave his character a Gamer RGB lightsaber
Andrew Christensen
2021-02-23 16:40:17 +0000 UTCFavorite episode so far! Also, I love that Dagan decided to create special moves for each character, and give them an rpg alignment description 😂.
Andrew Christensen
2021-02-23 16:38:22 +0000 UTCLove it. Few things in life are a better listen than the Moriarty bros talking Star Wars.
Your Boi Nicky V
2021-02-23 10:58:43 +0000 UTCHe may not be WRONG, no. But if you switched it to your way, it'd be easier to follow. Just my opinion!
Ian (616Entertainment)
2021-02-23 04:04:34 +0000 UTCI could see someone trying to put together a ‘directors cut’ where the episode is rearranged to have each story told straight through without the back and forth.
Brian Presley
2021-02-23 02:21:07 +0000 UTCHey guys, I've seen this feedback mentioned but I truly believe that these re-writes would be easier to digest and allow each of you to really go in depth if you do them one after another instead of switching back and forth between the different sections. Thanks for this episode!
Jordan Avery
2021-02-23 00:07:42 +0000 UTCI love the idea that you guys are doing this. Is there any chance that you’ll do the prequels? I know that you stated in this episode that those movies stand as official canon. But all three could be infinitely improved with story tweets that make them better fit into the original trilogy. I make this request because, like Dagan, I had high expectations for the prequels that simmered for 16 years after the release of ROTJ. After seeing each film and being more and more disappointed, I’ve hoped for some sort of retcon.
Patrick A Crone
2021-02-22 23:30:21 +0000 UTCMy vision was actually for us to go one, then the other. But Dagan wanted to do it this way, and I don't necessarily think he was wrong.
Colin Moriarty
2021-02-22 21:33:29 +0000 UTCHeh heh. There is a goal for KnockBack Let's Plays...
Colin Moriarty
2021-02-22 21:33:09 +0000 UTCWhy? We've seen it.
Colin Moriarty
2021-02-22 21:32:54 +0000 UTCWe are!
Colin Moriarty
2021-02-22 21:32:44 +0000 UTCYessss.
Colin Moriarty
2021-02-22 21:32:41 +0000 UTC=)
Colin Moriarty
2021-02-22 21:32:36 +0000 UTCWell... join us for a fun what-if, then. =)
Colin Moriarty
2021-02-22 21:32:32 +0000 UTCThank you. <3
Colin Moriarty
2021-02-22 21:32:25 +0000 UTC<3
Colin Moriarty
2021-02-22 21:32:19 +0000 UTCYes.
Colin Moriarty
2021-02-22 21:32:15 +0000 UTCFun episode. I might be alone in this, but while I enjoyed listening to you guys tell your stories, I have no idea what happened in either of your movies apart from the endings, lol. I don’t have the memory to be able to listen to the tellings of two different movies at the same time, cut chapter by chapter. But I understand you didn’t want to make each other wait an hour in between talking, hahaha. I look forward to the future of these retellings. I’ll try my best to keep up.
Ian (616Entertainment)
2021-02-22 21:16:13 +0000 UTCJust played my first game of Star Wars Rebellion with my wife last night. It's definitely "Star Wars in a box" and a blast to play. Got me thinking, I would love to see a playthrough between Colin and Dagan. Dagan as the Rebellion and Colin as the Empire would be hilarious. 😂
Jeremy Menear
2021-02-22 18:27:06 +0000 UTCWicked. Great topic guys. Now WATCH ATTACK OF THE CLONES!! YOU COWARDS!!
Phil Walker
2021-02-22 18:13:19 +0000 UTCDamn, you guys must be really excited about this because you wasted no time getting into the topic.!
Forrest Hunter
2021-02-22 17:29:02 +0000 UTC🤯 Let's Do THIS!
Marcus Brown
2021-02-22 17:20:24 +0000 UTCBryn Findlay-Dykes
2021-02-22 17:15:27 +0000 UTCI wouldn’t change episode 7, but I would change episode 9. Was terrible
Robbie Agnew
2021-02-22 17:14:08 +0000 UTCI’m a part of Patreon to support CLS monetarily. I use the iTunes app even though it’s delayed. I’m getting on this one right away though...so happy!!
Matthew Ward
2021-02-22 17:07:40 +0000 UTCWoh, what a treat.
Explosivebob
2021-02-22 17:06:22 +0000 UTCHOLY SHIT IT HAPPENED 😱😍😱
Lou & Rei Loper
2021-02-22 17:05:12 +0000 UTC
