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Sacred Symbols+, Episode 83: Holding 'Em To Account (with LegacyKillaHD)

Please welcome popular YouTuber LegacyKillaHD to +! I (Colin) wanted to have him on the show for a big reason: He holds publishers and developers to account just like we do, and that's truly rare in our games industry. So, we cover four major topics that are currently bouncing around: Cyberpunk 2077 and the CD Projekt fiasco, Bethesda's sale to Microsoft and the future of its games, BioWare's cancellation of Anthem Next and what it means for EA, and Hogwarts Legacy's preemptive cancellation attempts based on... well... nothing at all. So settle on in, friends! Let's talk shop.

Note: This episode is audio only.

Sacred Symbols+, Episode 83: Holding 'Em To Account (with LegacyKillaHD)

Comments

This was awesome! Always love to hear a guest who really knows their stuff :'D

Jeremy

I agree. They need to get their ducks in a row.

Colin Moriarty

We'll definitely do more! Thank you.

Colin Moriarty

Glad you enjoyed it!

Colin Moriarty

Hire this man! One of the best episodes easily

Caz

Really great conversation! Would love to see more episodes like this where Colin and another guest just break down the industry 👍🏻

Justin Chadwick

I guess my concern with Microsoft buying Bethesda is that they really seem to struggle with managing the studios they already have. During the Xbox One generation, they were unable to gestate a really strong outstanding exclusive. I think there may be something behind the scenes they need to reevaluate. Xbox needs quality. Not quantity

Paul Andrew

Well I blew my load then 🤷🏻‍♂️. I don’t know what I’m doing here 😂😅

Mike Jacobson

Certainly.

Colin Moriarty

I watched it last night! I thought it was very thought-provoking.

Colin Moriarty

Thank you. <3

Colin Moriarty

Everyone can do what they want, but I really don't think it's a good look.

Colin Moriarty

Wrong thread!

Colin Moriarty

I think it's going to vary by person.

Colin Moriarty

I'll work on it!

Colin Moriarty

I suppose.

Colin Moriarty

He's welcome back, for sure.

Colin Moriarty

He's definitely refreshing to listen to.

Colin Moriarty

Hope you enjoy(ed)!

Colin Moriarty

Yes. =) Thanks!

Colin Moriarty

Thanks!

Colin Moriarty

Awesome.

Colin Moriarty

Thank you!

Colin Moriarty

I suppose that's true.

Colin Moriarty

I'm talking about a lot of people. It doesn't matter what you disclose; it's cringe-as-fuck to be working for game devs and publishers while having an audience as a critic or commentator.

Colin Moriarty

Please do!

Colin Moriarty

He'll be back. =)

Colin Moriarty

Yes!

Colin Moriarty

Thank you.

Colin Moriarty

We're not gonna go on the sellout circuit, worry not.

Colin Moriarty

Thanks for listening!

Colin Moriarty

Thanks for listening. =)

Colin Moriarty

We probably will at some point.

Colin Moriarty

Thank you!

Colin Moriarty

Thank you for listening!

Colin Moriarty

New 'round these parts?

Colin Moriarty

Thank you. <3

Colin Moriarty

Yes, that's true. Which is why I said that it was weird that Bethesda (Maryland) was initially pretending they had much of anything to do with it outside of production. It was a huge blunder, because it stained them.

Colin Moriarty

Let him have his way with me.

Colin Moriarty

Fireside Chats is stolen branding from FDR!

Colin Moriarty

Yes, naturally.

Colin Moriarty

That could be fun.

Colin Moriarty

<3

Colin Moriarty

A reference I don't understand, sadly.

Colin Moriarty

Heh heh.

Colin Moriarty

Thanks! I'll try and remember.

Colin Moriarty

Thank you. =)

Colin Moriarty

I hope you enjoy(ed)!

Colin Moriarty

<3

Colin Moriarty

Thank you! I'll certainly welcome him back soon.

Colin Moriarty

He's great. =)

Colin Moriarty

I can mirror Colins thoughts as to the quality of Legacy’s content, it’s some top drawer work.

BlindRiot

Colin, great episode. Can I recommend you watch the video 'J.K. Rowling' by Contrapoints on Youtube? I agree with you on 90% of your critique of games journalism as per JK Rowling and hall monitoring, but IMO, JKs comments and patterns are dangerous and deserving of critique. I see your passion in this area, and I think Contrapoints video might be useful in providing bigger picture.

Ben and Hiroshi

This was great! Could’ve listened to another 3 hours of this. Hopefully you can get him back on in a bit to touch base!

Bueller’s Day Off

I think the lines between a Games journalist and dev/publisher have become blurred for a few years now. I may be wrong but we see people like podcasters sucking upto CD PROJEKT RED and getting merch or Greg Miller doing EA events. It makes it a lot harder to criticise a company when you get cool stuff from devs/publishers etc and remaining true to your audience and to be critical about a game also. Great episode Colin!

Zack Fair

Hey [insert witty and insulting pet names], Wanted to reach out and share a little inside scoop with you guys. I have a friend that works at Ubisoft Toronto and as you may expect, I had some questions for him when we last spoke. He let me know the following: 1. They all found out about the Star Wars game at the same time we did. There was a ton of excitement about it at their studio but he was disappointed to learn that Ubisoft Stockholm will be developing it with support from other studios. 2. The recent delay of Far Cry 6 was in fact directly related to the debacle that was the cyberpunk release. The game itself is fully playable and runs great, but they thought the extra time would help them with polish etc. Covid has made things significantly more difficult for them and that “they’ve learned from the mistakes of other studios”. As a Toronto resident myself I can say that our on again off again lockdowns have been ridiculously annoying and detrimental to just about every traditional business in the city. P.s. if this makes it on the show I’ll up my subscription. Call it a bribe. I don’t care.

Mike Jacobson

Just got the platinum on cyberpunk and while I agree there are some issues it's not nearly as bad as people have made it out to be. I was super excited for the Witcher 3 because I loved the 1st 2 on PC

Wayde

Excellent episode. Hope you can get him back on at some point in the future!

Billski

A script from Legacy/Michael could be something for “The Athletic” of game news, analysis, discussion. They call themselves Youtubers, but some people would read before ever considering a 5-30 minute video. The talent exists.

Jeremy Craves

Great great episode! Would love to see him return in the future!

TyDie

Great episode. Legacykilla was great. Loved how he didn't hold back his punches at the evergrowing nonsense of the "journalism" in games media. It was also nice to hear I wasn't alone in not giving a shit about these fairytale new games coming out of bethesda like elder scrolls 6. Bethesda to me has been shitting out the worst quality games this whole generation. Don't understand the hype at all.

Zack Apuzzo

I think he’s referring to that Parris guy.

Michael Miller

Oooh exciting. I know the podcast started up after Cyberpunk, so a deep dive into that game's...challenging launch should be fun!

Paul Meekin

This was a very enjoyable episode. I felt as if the episode was addressing us adult gamers with kids and lives beyond the “industry”. Really dug it.

Awesome episode kills is great!

Dan Root

Great show, I sub’d him on YouTube

Scott Pittman

Great episode

Chris Dell

Colin, to be fair you have been saying for a while that bioware should move on. Thats not holding them accountable, we paid for a games as a service and never recieved the service.

Liam Fagan

When you were talking about Cyberpunk, it sounded like you were talking about the KF temps, specifically Parris and Alanah for having worked with CDPR on marketing (or in Alanah’s case actually being in the game), and then Andrea for hosting events. I didn’t expect that from you Col. I get what you’re saying, but those guys always disclose that stuff, and lay into the games as well. Maybe I’m wrong and you were talking about other people, but that’s what I got from it. Mass Effect 3’s quality is arguable? LK is wild for that one.

NeO JD

I’m not a fan of Jason S as a person per say, but you can’t knock his work. He’s legit arguably the only real journalist in the industry.

NeO JD

I enjoyed this very much! Will for sure check out his channel.

Marcus Brown

Colin, this guy is fantastic. You gotta have him on again, and I’m definitely checking him out on his channel. Great episode.

Will Hahn

Legacy is very knowledgeable. Jumping in

brody_low

Amazing episode. I could listen to Colin all day. He is an incredible interviewer

brody_low

Great convo, thanks for putting this together Colin. Also, lol at the comment about podcasters hosting conferences for publishers. Without naming names, I'm glad you're not a sell out like them.

Your Boi Nicky V

Wow I used to watch this guys channel way back when he used to make a video every time there was red dead 2 leak in like 2016 lol. Great to hear him on this show.

Sumojoe118

Some great points about Bethesda's development history made in the pod. I remember the first game from them I played was Daggerfall. It was buggy AF! Constantly falling through the environment in dungeons. Morrowind, Oblivion, Skyrim all were in various states of play-ability and unplay-ability when launched.

TrackyMatts

Great episode. Should make this public. His enormous following is your exact target audience

TreyDogg

Loved the episode Colin a guest every now and then is a great idea!

strawhatninja

CDPR will only eat shit til the next failure that gets overhyped. Btw I was surprised you didn’t give your opinion about Jason shrierer when Legacy praised him. I think he’s the biggest yellow journalist the industry has and sites like kotaku and ign are empty shells of what they where. I truly don’t understand why advertisers give those sites any money at all. They cater to typical Lenin and Maoist communist and the last time I looked they have no money and if they did they expect the service or good for free. I was a prime member on IGN from 2002-2018 mostly for their guides, thanks Colin, but those are all incomplete now and days. Lol I just like my user name, Pimpin123. They must not be able to make people change them

Michael Thew

Very, very good. This is why I come to Last Stand Media. The “games media” are simply a marketing arm of all of the developers and publishers. You guys call them on their shit. Well done.

Andy T

Yeesh, tough listen. Don’t go into this one looking for any uplifting conversation. lol

Greg Mocha

You reallllly gotta get Legacy back again, what an amazing podcast! So much knowledge of the gaming industry in both of you!

Dylan Manuszak

Perhaps I’m wrong, but I’m pretty sure Bethesda Austin made most of Fallout 76 and then Bethesda Game Studios supported with writing the story and such. If I remember right, they weren’t full hands-on that game at Bethesda Game Studios till like the final year of development. Bethesda Game Studios attached its name to it as primary developer so the game would sell better. For Fallout 4, pretty sure that game was being made for previous gens, then it took too long and they had to rework it for the Xbox One and PS4 gen, so it was basically a 360 and PS3 game on new hardware.

Caleb Greer

Buyin' Bill Gates comes to your house with a truck load of cash. What do you do?

Max Stahl

Yes. Legacy makes good content. Keep up the guests Colin. Im still not sure why you don't put these guest appearances under fire side chats. Such great branding.

Liam Fagan

"We have an above average audience when it comes to games knowledge and curiosity" Sir, I'm here for the stories about shitting yourself on a first date... And of course the follow up stories.

Carlos Fregoso

A lot of YouTubers on plus these days, that’s awesome! Maybe some small YouTubers could be next if that interests Last Stand? You’d definitely get that “side hustle” perspective from them

GameSimp

Does this cdpr Xbox guy appear on rdx podcast?

Crackhead Bob

As I’m watching you and Dagan talk about blade runner, this comes up, I love Dagan but I’ve been super looking forward to this episode

Kenneth Oms

Never heard of this guy but he sounds like wwe superstar Kevin owens

Brandon williams

I like that this guy admits his user name is stupid.

Piston Pants

Hey Colin, just wanted to let you know that JK Rowling's last name rhymes with "bowling", not "scowling".

Evan Bederman

Can't wait to listen! I love Colin as interviewer....I miss fireside chats

brody_low

I’m going to listen now. I know it will be great. His channel is awesome.

Anthony A.

Really like micheal been watching him since the red dead 2 hype was happening

Jack Doheny

Thank you Colin these interviews are second to none. Killa needs to come back for sure.

Matthew Major

Awesome!! He's always been pretty thourogh and chill surrounding these topics

Barrel Titor


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