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Sacred Symbols, Episode 142: Phantom Bust

Interesting news emerged in recent days: Sony is funding the creation of a new second party studio in Canada, and it'll be working on a brand new IP for PlayStation. But it's who's leading the team -- Jade Raymond -- that has people excited. But should that excitement be replaced with skepticism? Raymond hasn't released a game in years, and it's uncommon (as in, it virtually never happens) that an industry gets excited over a game producer, as opposed to someone who contributes more creatively. So what gives? Is there reason to be stoked, or is this studio and project nothing more than (for the time being) a figment of our imagination. Plus: More news! Sony has officially revealed PSVR's new controllers, Square Enix has given a proper name to Project Athia, Life is Strange is readying to show off its True Colors, Tiger Woods is now a 2K Sports game, PlayStation is getting generous with the giveaways, and much more! Then: Listener inquiries! Is Colin displaying gatekeeperish tendencies? Are scalpers holding onto their PlayStation 5 consoles? Is watching how long you played on PS5 the new Trophy hunt? Will the delivery man ever find Chris?


Timestamps:

0:00:16 - Intro

0:13:03 - A new trailer for Returnal has dropped.

0:22:59 - There will only be one piece of Final Fantasy VII Remake DLC.

0:24:02 - Gamescom will return.

0:28:48 - A new Dying Light 2 video is causing waves in the industry.

0:32:16 - What have we been playing?

0:41:25 - Will Colin play Octopath Traveler?

0:43:25 - Colin was right about Spec Ops: The Line.

0:48:06 - A new second party studio, Haven, has been formed and will be led by Jade Raymond.

1:10:09 - Rush barks and Sony purchases Evo.

1:13:58 - Sony has revealed their new VR controllers.

1:23:35 - Project Athia is now Forspoken.

1:29:26 - Life Is Strange: True Colors has been announced.

1:36:29 - Avengers gets its PS5 upgrade and a new expansion.

1:41:47 - Sony has revealed ten more games for their Play At Home initiative.

1:46:26 - 2K has signed a long term licensing deal with Tiger Woods and acquired HB Studios.

1:50:01 - Layoffs have hit Activision Blizzard in the esports and other sectors.

1:53:10 - Disco Elysium and Scarlet Nexus have received release dates on PlayStation.

1:57:20 - PlayStation’s Communities are being completely eliminated.

2:02:50 - News Wrap-Up

2:08:08 - What should a PlayStation Game Pass look like?

2:24:00 - Have we ever burned out on a game when close to the end?

2:30:22 - Is the PS5 sales data skewed by scalpers?

2:34:18 - Will Outriders on Game Pass help or hurt PlayStation sales?

2:37:51 - Are you a poser if you don’t play the original Final Fantasy VII before the remake?

2:46:46 - Is the time played feature on the PS5 hurting players?

Sacred Symbols, Episode 142: Phantom Bust

Comments

Just beat the final chapter of the remake, and I now know what you mean by the importance of playing the original first. 90% of the ending went entirely over my head. Colin was right

Henry Morgan

He's our little baby boy. Yes.

Colin Moriarty

Whatever makes you happy. That's what matters most. =)

Colin Moriarty

Mike, stop being a poser. (Only kidding.)

Colin Moriarty

Capcom and Square Enix like doing this shit.

Colin Moriarty

Avengers definitely has a better shot at being saved, no doubt. Substantially better.

Colin Moriarty

I don't even know what game you're talking about, which goes to show how shot I am. EDIT: Now I understand.

Colin Moriarty

Something about how Dustin said “in my tummy”, I was like oh yeah he’s a baby 😄 Didn’t expect Dustin to not like LIS 1, figured that’d connect with his young boy self. I bought FF7 on PS4, hated the battle system and hard quit, then played the demo for Remake, loved it and played the whole game. Am I still a poser? 😄😛

NeO JD

I totally understand the obsession with wanting to play every game in a series and understand context, but when it comes to remakes like FFVII, if I want to experience the story for the first time I’m going to play the one with modernized gameplay and 2021 graphics instead of one that came out the year I was born. Especially if the remake is high quality. Then maybe go back and play the original to see where they differ!

Henry Morgan

I get where Col's coming from w/ FF7 classic, but it sounds snobbish to say "Well you're a poser if you didn't do it that way." Like c'mon, that's some immature school yard stuff. And I'm w/ Chris, sometimes going backwards is very cool, I've done it w/ a few series like Metal Gear and Persona. Certainly didn't hurt my experience, or more accurately, it didn't bother me at start w/ the new and dig into the oldies afterwards. If anything, I think that gives you a more unique perspective.

MikeLee

I went back to it when they launched the next gen version after playing it at launch through the campaign. I can tell they've improved it somewhat and added quite a bit of content but they've got to keep the content coming to keep me hooked. It really is a great game being held back by a lack of content.

Shawn Hayden

It for sure looks to still be in the early stages. It is pretty looking, but understandably looks like a tech demo. I'm interested to know more about the story and the mission structure, as well as the leveling systems and if there will be any crafting or features of the like.

yosh_wah

Forspoken looks like a tech demo to me. It’s just an empty open world saying hey look how pretty we can make environments

Kenneth Oms

Still playing avengers and it looks like it might be a lot better in the future. I at least have a bit more faith in the avengers being saved than anthem. Love the show and Dustin calm down a bit with the marvel hate and you better not be real about it being illegal.

Nigel Engel

I played through the campaign when it came out but had no real reason to continue it past that, I went back to it this week with the ps5 version. The stuff they've added since launch is great content. It just seems like their rollout of content is way way way too slow. What's weird and sad about this game is that at it's core its a pretty great hack n slash rpg. It just needs better management.

Shawn Hayden

Interesting.

Colin Moriarty

I worry about you a great deal.

Colin Moriarty

He really is.

Colin Moriarty

Well look at you, Jorge!

Colin Moriarty

Indeed.

Colin Moriarty

I agree; holding makes no sense. Those consoles are finding their way out.

Colin Moriarty

I just think context is important. Why WOULDN'T you want that?!

Colin Moriarty

Not intended!

Colin Moriarty

He called a flag on the play for sure.

Colin Moriarty

Everywhere does takeout. Who wants Waffle House takeout?!

Colin Moriarty

Never.

Colin Moriarty

Perhaps so! I like context.

Colin Moriarty

I guess? You don't have to either name your game PROJECT OCTOPATH TRAVELER or FORSPOKEN. There are other options!

Colin Moriarty

Poser!!!

Colin Moriarty

Oh dear.

Colin Moriarty

A lot of people are saying that, and that's great for the consumer for sure.

Colin Moriarty

We just got distracted. She's playing a lot of CoD; I'm jumping around. (And no, no plan for that.)

Colin Moriarty

=\

Colin Moriarty

Sorry!

Colin Moriarty

Awesome man! Congrats.

Colin Moriarty

Looks so good!!!

Colin Moriarty

<3

Colin Moriarty

So I play Avengers almost every day. The game gives me no reason to purchase the micro transactions. I would have paid $10-15 for both dlc packs.

Clint

I am really touched by all the people that seem to worry about others missing out on every nuance of a game by not playing all the games in a series. It is truly heart warming you want to see me and others live out every moment so I can seemingly have a better experience going forward. But to this I say don't worry about it. Me and the rest of the people who play the games in a certain order or miss certain games in a series will be fine because it doesn't matter. But it is sweet you care so much. Run along and play you little scamps.

Piston Pants

Dustin is a god damn nerd but I love that man

Andrew

Metal gear solid 3 was the first game I played in the series. I loved it and went back and played all the main games before it, including the msx games. One of my favorite series of all time.

Jorge Sosa

This Jade Raymond stuff would have been more impactful like 2 years from now at an E3 style event where she comes out and shows off the new game on a stage. The proof will be in the pudding at this point.

Luke Silletta

I really doubt scalpers are holding onto any consoles at all. That makes no sense, just from a profit standpoint - I've been watching eBay and the price although still high, is dropping slowly. The resale price on eBay is for sure not going anywhere but down over time so the longer scalpers wait to sell, the less they make. Scalpers get a PS5 and then flip it ASAP.

Kendall Helmstetter Gelner

I agree with Colin that people should play ratchet 2016 before rift apart since it’s a more modern game and much shorter than the original FF 7. In 2021 it’s hard to want to go back to a very long game from 1997. I think that familiarizing yourself with the story of the original is sufficient. I’m really enjoying the remake with this approach and enjoyed Dustin’s take regarding FF7 remake since I was one of the people that haven’t beaten the original game. I love when you guys have opposite takes from time to time, makes for great entertainment!

Michael Limauro

Dustin at the end ya dropped FACTS. Good show overall but yall did seem mean towards Jade lol

Dick Stillhard

Well done on throwing the challenge flag in there Dustin re FF7. I very much appreciated that moment. I've played FF7 many times but I have to say that Square Enix would have failed if they hadn't brought in any new fans with this remake. Now you would certainly get the most out of it having played the original but you still have to make sure the new game can stand on its own merit.

Abe Sampson

Waffle House does take out. You’re welcome.

Ivan Hornett

Mass Effect 3 is not a remake of Mass Effect 1. Same with Jedi. I was a huge Final Fantasy 7 fan growing up (my second JRPG after Chrono Trigger) - but I simply don't have time for the remake. So if I did have time and never played the original, I'd probably play the remake first - especially if I never grew up with turn-based RPGs. I agree with Dustin 100%. Thanks for calling out Colin. Someone needs to do it once in awhile. Adds a nice spice to the show. Love it!

tobin_asai999

I know he has a hang-up with the team being supposedly pro-Stalin but having played the game prior I had to chuckle as they must certainly be provocateurs. The game is an onion with many different layers to interpret and is a satire on many levels. Didn't get to finish it but I'd go back if I had a good chunk of time.

tobin_asai999

Stop saying accoutrements please

tobin_asai999

Colin, I think your desire to play every game in a franchise before playing the current one in order to not feel like a poser is inextricably tied to your passion for history and your education in that regard. You can’t stand missing relevant historical context, even with games. :) And games in a franchise (or remakes) certainly don’t exist in a vacuum. Also, you said no Xbox exclusives come close to the top ten PS4 games, but you have yet to play Gears 5, which I would argue is on par. Go play it some time! It’s wayyyy better than the other Gears games.

Caleb Greer

I feel like Square can't win. Everyone makes fun of them for all their games having odd names and the second they give something a normal one word name.... it also gets insulted. I dont understand how Forspoken, a name that I've never seen used as a title before, is generic and bad when it describes the games setting well and is easy to remember.

Kaleb

"Us Europeans"? Don't forget, we are the europeans who decided we didn't want to be europeans any more and booted the europeans who disagreed back across the ocean! Don't make us do it again!! :-)

Dave Carsley

streaming games suck right now, maybe in 5 or 10 years it'll be better.

Dean Robertson

Do you guys not watch the Ryder Cup when it's on? Or can you not handle us Europeans rolling you over nearly every time?

TROTMAC96

I guess I'm one of those FF7 posers😂😂. I'm interested in the original but I just can't see myself playing through a 40-50 hour game with turn based combat and no voice acting. I also kind of want to stay blind in terms of major story elements. I will definitely go and play Crisis Core however either through emulation or hopefully a port as it seems like it won't be explored with its own remake.

Sumojoe118

I just want to say I 100% agree with Colin's "gatekeeping" in most of these instances. FFVII Remake just assumes you played the original. If you don't, you're GOING to be confused. Yakuza is an ongoing story. Would you play Mass Effect 3 first, or watch Return of the Jedi without having experienced anything prior? You could, but you'd be hurting your own experience because, like FFVII Remake, they don't assume you're starting there. *PS Watch Dogs is basically like Final Fantasy in how the sequels relate to each other

Chris

If there was a fleshlight molded after Colin's anus, I'd definitely by it.

TROTMAC96

I have this feeling as well. It just feels like no matter how the game turns out, it'll be overlooked by most gamers

Shawn Hayden

We need a full-fledged State of Play for Returnal. I think the game will bomb even if it’s good.

Brandon Soto

Man, I really hope Colin gives Disco Elysium a try. I’d love to hear his thoughts on it.

Garrett Bates

Colin, I understand your point about a Sony Game Pass with only quality titles but the beauty of Xbox Game Pass is all the random games that I've discovered through GP. The Xbox Studios exclusives are just icing on the cake.

Matthew Two T's

Colin, whatever happened to you playing Sackboy with Micah? Also, do you plan on playing It Takes Two with her? Josef Fares is pitching it as rom com game.

Jake Z

PSNow already gives you "800+ games" and has for a long while. Most first party ps3 games are on the service, many of which are downloadable via the ps4 remaster also being on the service. How and why nearly every talking head in gaming ignores this is baffling. The service by itself cost 1/3 of what game pass does. The value is already freaking there.

Shawn Hayden

Y’all thinking we want your penis sex toys? Naw we want the booty’s

Adamthm

I think the talk on Jade Raymond went on a bit long. Seemed like Colin kept repeating the same thing towards the end.

Tomas Pacheco

I secured a Ps5 and it’s getting delivered today. Can’t wait to hear your thoughts on all the news this week. Hype!!!

D'Ante Almo

The latest Returnal trailer has me pumped as well, but I'm also having the same price tag issues that Dustin mentioned. I just recently got my PS5, and I told myself I'd get Demon's Souls, but even then I've told myself it will someday go on sale and I should just wait. Can't help but feel the same way about Returnal

Alan Hardee

The boys!!!

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