Sacred Symbols, Episode 142: Phantom Bust (Video)

Yeah, it's strange. I'm sure she's talented and knowledgeable, but certainly not to the degree she's revered.

Colin Moriarty

Thank you! Glad you enjoyed.

Colin Moriarty

<3

Colin Moriarty

Greetings MMF, I couldn't agree more about your opinions regarding Jade Raymond. I first noticed her as an inexperienced journalist who awkwardly interviewed game devs on Electric Playground. Back then I wondered what the hell she was doing on that show as she didn't seem to know a whole lot about the industry. Imagine my shock years later when I saw the same person producing an upcoming AAA action title, with a cool premise, for Ubisoft. I wasn't impressed with the final product and couldn't understand the hype surrounding it and it's producer. The game continued to spawn a seemingly endless number of spinoffs and sequels. To this day I'm bewildered by its enduring popularity and Ms. Raymond's esteemed reputation. I'm not downplaying the important role a producer plays in the development of a video game but... she produced some games. A lot of them weren't even that good. To regard her in the same manner as visionaries and creative minds such as Levine, Hennig, Kojima, etc is absolutely absurd. I'm just going to say it: must be the looks. Good for her I guess. Peace, boys.

Nikitas Gagas

This was one of my favorite episodes in quite awhile. The three of you just seemed to be clicking together even better than usual. Light and funny - good banter : )

James Gillis

I actually played through the original red dead redemption via streaming on my PS4 a few years back. It was fine, but the disc was right there on my shelf... but like I was saying, imagine you could download all those exclusive titles and play them natively on your ps5. PSNow leap frogs game pass over night in value if they figure that out, even without day 1 exclusives.

Kyle

Just to clarify guys there is nothing wrong with the AstraZeneca vaccine. All the hubbub is the EU playing politics with us newly independent brits. We might be in one of the strictest lockdowns in the world but we have vaccinated more than half of adults at least once. Thanks guys you are the best

Euan Scott

Don't you want to stream?!

Colin Moriarty

I just dropped in to comment on the psnow discussion. I find the fact that I can’t play so many of Sony’s titles on my ps5 natively just so far beyond absurd right now. Infamous 1/2, the resistance series, all the early god of wars. Why won’t they figure this out? It speaks volumes to me as a consumer that I can take an Xbox disc, throw it in my series x, and play the damn thing. I look at my shelf of ps3 games and my busted OG ps3 and I just get mad.

Kyle

I really think they're trying to balance the scales a little bit. Sony is getting the AAA stuff.

Colin Moriarty

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Colin Moriarty

No.

Colin Moriarty

It’s so strange that Square is giving Microsoft Octopath Traveler before Sony, and then on top of that it’s going to Game Pass. Strange days my friends.

BlindRiot

Dustin adds so much to the show. Huge fan.

Cannonball_Jones

Hey Col can I get a ruling? Am I a poser if I play Returnal without having played any of Housemarque’s other games? Thank you

Greg Hadden

Oh dear. =) <3

Colin Moriarty

Should be fun!

Colin Moriarty

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Colin Moriarty

Be careful.

Colin Moriarty

Oh dear.

Colin Moriarty

I think the bigger problem is that playerbase size really isn't relevant if your game is ostensibly free.

Colin Moriarty

I'm not compelled by this number. Sony announced 10 million a year and a half before that, so if it is at 20, it was done at a substantial budget cut. Either way, Sony hasn't said anything since 2019.

Colin Moriarty

Oh no. =\

Colin Moriarty

It can be yours!

Colin Moriarty

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Colin Moriarty

It's just a play on Phantom Dust. =)

Colin Moriarty

Chris won’t spoil 2012s Far Cry 3, but will spoil 2018s God of War😅 What a silly man. By the way, thank you guys for answering my question this week and discussing it for as long as y’all did. That was fun to watch.

Michael Miller

I think this is what's going to finally get me into VR now with the motion tracker

Zack Fair

Chris yawns his way through another episode, looking pretty radioactive too.

Kenny C

Take a drink for every "Jade Raymond" fookin ell.

Phantom bust reminds me of that scene in Scary Movie where she fucks the ghost.

Jordan Falduto

My gut tells me Chris is probably not really correct about Sea of Thieves having twice as many players as God of War. I'm guessing he's probably forgotten about the concept of used games (despite places like Gamestop floundering, it's still a huge business). There would have been many many people who bought God of War second hand -- which wouldn't be included in the "copies sold" figures -- whereas [comparatively] nobody bought a used copy of Sea of Thieves (an online only "free" game that is super easy for every Gamepass member to click on and try for 5 minutes). Heck, I was one of those 20 million people. I played it for 10 minutes and didn't spend a dollar on it. So I don't think "total players" of a game like Sea of Thieves is a metric that should be compared directly to "copies sold".

Dave Carsley

With all due respect, I don't think you're really correcting anything. If I remember correctly, the quote Colin referenced was, "Jade Raymond was responsible for bringing Watch Dogs to market" (or something very very close to that). Being part of an early prototype does not in any way make you "responsible for bringing [the final product] to market". And regardless, the thrust of the argument was that she's being given credit in the media for that game, and if she did play a part in it (which I take your word that she did), it was so insignificant as to not even be among the 3000 people mentioned in the credits. IMO, the point stands uncorrected. Just my two cents though. No disrespect intended.

Dave Carsley

Unless it blows up, I don't see them covering much of anything from it.

Shawn Hayden

What makes you even consider that?

Shawn Hayden

GOW 2018 has probably sold over 20 million copies - https://segmentnext.com/2020/11/12/god-of-war-ps4-20-million-copies/

BryanK75

Hey Colin, just a correction from the recent episode. Jade Raymond was in fact part of early prototype for watch dogs. I had to do some digging, but here’s the link https://ubistatic19-a.akamaihd.net/comsite_common/en-US/images/Toronto%20press%20release%20FINAL_tcm99-179899_tcm99-196733-32.pdf

Matthew Ash

I'll take a mold of Chris' vagina please and thanks.

Justin O'Reilly

hoodie looks so nice

Jack Doheny

If Sony has lost Kojima to Xbox, I will be very very upset. I really am having issues with how PlayStation is being run... what is going on over there?

BryanK75

“The Chad who wrote in”... sons of bitch

Chad Lewis

No mention about the new Roadmap for Destruction AllStars? 3 confirmed seasons! New modes and characters! Ranked play! Battlepass! How is this not big news for the podcast?!

Real Radec

I don't know what a Phantom Bust is... But on a fine Friday, I will learn.

Carlos Fregoso