Sacred Symbols+, Episode 90: The Woke Infection (Video)

This was good, didn't know Erik before this, glad I listened.

Guybrush Threepwood

Great conversation. Great to hear from Erik Kain and honest I'm SUPER pleased that they bothered to talk to you, because it's quite distasteful how the industry treats Colin. Good to see the nuanced conversation about all these complex topics, and not these stupid, sweeping platitudes that only serve to virtue signal. We NEED these types of conversations if we're ever to move forward, but I'm genuinely scared that the only voices that will be allowed to exist are the loud, woke crowd. I've really lost touch with the gaming media cause of that.

JusticeSoulTuna

Happy to report that I am no longer a free listener. Last Stand Media has helped me get through this pandemic. Shoutout from the Philippines!

Romeo Paolo Latorre

Thank you for supporting us!

Colin Moriarty

Finally got a chance to watch. Love Erik Kain. He is so genuine just like Colin so it was exciting to see this happen.

Thank you!

Colin Moriarty

Ha!

Colin Moriarty

We will. =)

Colin Moriarty

Thanks for listening!

Colin Moriarty

Indeed.

Colin Moriarty

To be fair, I'm not entirely sure I ever watched a video game review that stressed how hard the team worked, either...? I don't disagree with your overall point, though. As I said: No choice is without consequence. It doesn't mean you aren't making the right choice for you.

Colin Moriarty

I really like this Erik Kain guy, great episode man!

BlindRiot

What a nice young man

Jay

This was a fantastic podcast.. really enjoyed it gents. Definitely have him back!

Tony Rivera

Great guest, great convo. Thanks.

leaf lettuce

That Tyler tweet is sooo good and could help so many people live happier lives if they just thought about it when they’re on social.

John Garvin's comments about buying games day 1 are pretty gross and speak to a larger problem that I have with games media, which is this pressure to know of, care about, and somehow alleviate difficulties developers and publishers have. Not to sound cold, but I don't give a fuck if Nintendo needs my help, or if Sony is going to be forced to adapt because of purchases Microsoft makes; I couldn't give a shit if a studio has to revaluate because their game didn't sell well until it was $14; and I SUPER, EXTRA, 150% don't give a fuck about "crunch" (I'm sure any small business owner can relate - you are CONSTANTLY working. Even when you're not.) Those are their problems. problems that THEY should solve. Not me. I'm the consumer. All that matters to me is if I like what they're selling and does the price make sense to me. I don't think I've ever watched a review for a new phone or camera that stressed how hard Apple worked on it, and that I should buy it the DAY it comes out and at the fullest, purest, most expensive price. That said, I don't take any issue with people supporting a studio with buying a game at full price, day and date, which I have done plenty. but it's a luxury I can afford, and do on occasion when it feels "right to me" not because of some sense of obligation. I just find it so annoying that there are large swaths of games media (which, ironically, often get sent free copies) that can't help but act like I'm some sort of ingrate because I waited for a game to A) get fixed and B) get reduced in price.

Toren R. (KESA)

Thank you!

Colin Moriarty

<3

Colin Moriarty

He'll be back!

Colin Moriarty

I'd love to have more divisive conversations, but I need takers, first.

Colin Moriarty

I will. =)

Colin Moriarty

I appreciate you!

Colin Moriarty

Thank you!

Colin Moriarty

I don't know who that is. =(

Colin Moriarty

Thank you. <3

Colin Moriarty

Yesssss.

Colin Moriarty

Thank you for your support! <3

Colin Moriarty

Hey! Try to keep your thoughts to just one post-per-thread. It drives me insane. =) And you can use whatever you want, sure. =)

Colin Moriarty

Thanks. =)

Colin Moriarty

Thank you! <3

Colin Moriarty

Yes, but at an unknown time. He was "bumped" because to reschedule him would force us to reschedule something else. It's just a quirk of how things played out. We'll get him back into rotation, but other things, shows, people, etc. have to all come first.

Colin Moriarty

=)

Colin Moriarty

Dustin is a loser.

Colin Moriarty

I’ll have to finish the 2nd half later but this is excellent, great guest. I had no idea about him.

TL

Polish people making a game about Native Americans is 'cultural appropriation' but Indian and black actresses playing characters in The Witcher, founded in Polish folklore, is 'diversity'. 🤡🤡🤡 Anyway hell of a discussion - great to listen to two articulate and informed perspectives.

Your Boi Nicky V

Excellent conversation. Really hope to see Erik on again.

ProjectA2O

Just FYI, I’d be happy to SS+ just being an interview show like this - sadly there’s so few open minded people who will actually talk to you.

Russell Garrett

Awesome episode!! Hope you have Erik on again soon.

Jeff Pollard

I really love these interview episodes! Thanks for the great stuff Colin!

Kevin Theal

Colin these interview episodes have been great. Keep em’ coming!!

Colin the tweet you're referring to about cyber bullying and just turning off the screen is by the great Tyler the Creator you boomer

Andres

This episode is gold I tell you! Pure Gold! Definitely going to give it a second listen.

Edwin Magana

I agreed with you both on various topics and disagreed with you both on various topics. Successful show 🤌🏻

Maxx Lazos

I may took a look at those books as well. I'm interested in the topic.

James R Langley

I love these conversations, great work guys!

Kyle Toker

Eric Kain I have enjoyed your writings on these topics for years now. If you would like some further reading which might help you understand where "The Woke Infection" came from might I recommend some further reading on the topic: 'The Blank Slate' by Steven Pinker; 'Cynical Theories' by Helen Pluckrose and James Lindsay; 'The Coddling of the American Mind' by Johnathan Haidt and Greg Lukianoff. And for how this has had an effect on journalism, I'd recommend 'Hate Inc.' by Matt Taibbi, 'The Madness of Crowds' by Douglas Murray, and 'Trust Me I'm Lying' by Ryan Holiday.

Raymond Wallman

Thank you for discussing the issue of "gamer entitlement." It really answers some questions I had. Colin if I could have your permission I would like to use segments of this conversation in my film.

Raymond Wallman

Very nice conversation gentleman. As you some of you might know I am currently producing a documentary on GamerGate. This is based on both the Society of Professional Journalists "Airplay" discussion in August of 2015 and James Desborough's book "Inside GamerGate." I don't believe just ignoring it will make it go away. It involves a lot of issues which are very relevant in todays society, from social justice, to social media, to legacy media, etc. And I believe the competing sides are only going to get more vicious and more acrimonious until we receive some closure. And by being able to view the whole situation in the form of a documentary will take a step toward bringing some closure to the situation.

Raymond Wallman

I really enjoyed this conversation, been on a good streak of SS+ interviews.

Matthew Cooper

Congrats on the constant wins at Last Stand Media!

TB Lightning

Is the Finn Mckenty pod still happening?

Alex

This is why we must have physical copies of Dustin!

TB Lightning

Iono, I like the new Dustin.

Saúl Nolasco

Working on a quick fix now. -Dustin

Dustin Furman

Dustin changed a lot lately... Seriously the video says Dustin.

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