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Sacred Symbols, Episode 150: Epic Money

Who knew Epic Games' lawsuit with Apple would be rife with so many interesting tidbits about our beloved PlayStation? Here's one piece of news: The House of Fortnite apparently offered Sony a staggering $200 million to port between four and six of its exclusives to its PC store. Sony -- at the time owners of 1.4% of Epic -- doubled-down by refusing the deal and nearly doubling its investment into the company instead. This is a strange story, so let's explore it! We'll also get into the week's other pertinent news, too, like PlayStation's (apparent) 25 games in development, fresh rumors circulating around PSVR2, the first new DualSense color schemes, and much more. Then: Listener inquiries! Are Sony's recent moves answering its naysayers? Will EA ever revisit Dead Space? How will monetary inflation affect the games industry? Can Dustin survive his role as full-time member of our show?


Timestamps:

0:00:16 - Intro

0:03:13 - A few announcements and smaller pieces of news.

0:28:23 - What have we been playing?

0:57:02 - When should Sony reveal its end of the year lineup?

1:00:48 - PS5 scarcity will continue and Sony’s first party family has 25 games in development.

1:30:06 - New details about PSVR2 have emerged according to UploadVR.

1:48:24 - Sony is releasing new color schemes for the DualSense controller.

1:52:24 - Epic offered $200 million for EGS exclusivity for 4-6 games.

1:57:41 - Lost Judgement will be coming to PS4 and PS5 on September 24th.

2:01:32 - Capcom’s sales and profits are up!

2:02:58 - Ubisoft wants to focus on more free-to-play games.

2:10:20 - The Division franchise is expanding and a free-to-play title in the universe will be released.

2:16:52 - THQ Nordic has acquired three new teams.

2:18:22 - Zombies Ate My Neighbors and Ghoul Patrol are launching on PS4 on June 29th.

2:21:09 - Sony has revealed the best selling digital games for April.

2:24:58 - Sniper Ghost Warrior Contract 2 has been delayed on PS5… but nowhere else.

2:31:30 - News Wrap-Up

2:32:41 - How are we feeling about Sony’s future?

2:38:34 - Should puzzles in games have built-in guides?

2:46:58 - How will inflation affect the gaming industry?

2:53:41 - Where is our Dead Space trilogy remaster?

2:59:18 - What are our hopes for the new Battlefield game?

3:03:15 - Why are some games praised for their length and others punished for it?

Sacred Symbols, Episode 150: Epic Money

Comments

I'm with Chris in that the jump from PS4 to PS5 doesn't seem as big as past generations, which enables the possibility of cross-gen games with only PC-spec-like differences (shaders, anti-aliasing, ray tracing, etc.). But of course I can't deny Colin's point that games made specifically for PS5 will benefit more than a cross-gen development, namely, having a more cohesive focus technologically where all the facets (polygon count, textures, etc.) are made from the ground up and even work together. I just don't think it will be better by that much anymore, honestly, especially when the executives at Sony are likely trying to make as much money as possible during this generation transition period (i.e. The Last of Us PS3 and PS4, but the other way around). But only time will tell. I don't think it's necessarily apt to compare PS4 -> PS5 to past generational leaps, and the business practices of the past to the present. Technology and business are both changing.

Dylan Neves

Hot tip for PS5 stability. My system consistently crashed every time I started a game until I switched to a hdmi 1 standard cable rather than the new hotness that came in the box. For whatever reason this fixed everything for me.

Scot CRUICKSHANK

My issue with puzzles is they are often imo unfairly difficult for no good reason. The bell puzzle in the castle of the new resident evil simply made me mad. Sets the rules of.. there are five bells in this room, find and shoot them all. One of them is in fact not in the room and for another one you have to shoot a chandelier to make it swing and reveal a bell, which is a mechanic not used up to that point and never used again.. so how am I as the player supposed to figure that out naturally. It just seems unnecessary to me.

Adam

Loved the puzzle talk. Makes me wanna see you guys try an escape room. 😄 I would line up for a shot if it meant I could always have better wifi. 😅 Dustin killed it this ep. Already felt like he was permanent after so many eps now but still a nice moment. ❤️

NeO JD

So now Battlefield 6 is cross gen also? When the hell are company's going to start making next gen games? Why did we even need new consoles if this is going to be the attitude. God of War 2 better not be cross gen. What kind of message will that send if they delay GOW to 2022 and its still cross gen WTF.

Luke Silletta

Can we get a jetski mime shirt?

lazer_josh

Dustin is a welcomed addition. Loved the episode.

NIXNE

"The PS5's Future is Grim" was always a wildly hyperbolic take.

Douglas Morreale

Grats Dustin!

Fonz

Does RE7 have the camera acceleration and shake feature? I thought going into RE8 would make me have motion sickness and a massive migraine like RE7 caused. Luckily I was able to turn those features off in RE8. All that said, RE7’s pacing felt sluggish and not as intuitive or fun for multiple playthrough’s. I hope that if RE9 really is the conclusion to the Winters story, I hope it plays more like RE8 compared to RE7.

Samuel Zamora

I’m loving RE8 which is crazy because I hated RE7 and everything it did and brought to the table. I’m one trophy away from the platinum. The game is great!

Samuel Zamora

You could say Chris has Returnal

FluffyNeko

I believe that people that say you trashed Returnal Colin are the people that what you to praise every game Sony makes, if they want that then they need follow those people, they are easy to find online. Someone gave the game a 8 and people were calling for Sony to black list him because of the score.

Hose A Contra Razz

If Colin doesn’t wanna mess with his trophy percentage, why doesn’t he just buy the Yuffie DLC on his main account and play it on an alternate account? Just a thought

Reon Williams

Man, it sucks that Colin doesn't like Returnal. It's such a great time. He keeps mentioning people that aren't familiar with Housemarque like this more and I push back on that a little bit. I also got the platinum in Resogun and am 1 trophy away from the plat in Nex Machina. A few away in Alienation. Returnal is hands down the best game they've made. It might not be a score-chaser but this is their best game. Hands down.

David

Hell yea! It’s a killer trio. Welcome officially Dustin :)

Robert Graham

Hey Colin, whenever you make it back around to Returnal check out the daily challenge. It's a points based arcade mode essentially. Shorter runs and you just try to get the high score.

jacob custard

Great episode, I love long meaty podcasts lol. Grats too Dustin for claiming the 3rd chair good choice.

Chris

All this VR talk has me wondering have any of you seen the film “Ready Player One” directed by Steven Spielberg. I think all of you would like it. Especially you Colin because of all of pop culture references. Yeah don’t watch Avatar... nothing but Disney’s Pocahontas with blue people.

D'Ante Almo

And also sorry for the double post, I had a separate thought I wanted to share. In terms of VR experiences, there is a short VR animated film for free called Allumette. It's a masterclass on VR animated storytelling. The story is completely visual, no words. I highly recommend it!

Jose Horrach

Congratulations Dustin! I know you read these as well as Colin, so just let me say, I'm 100 percent for bringing up Tomba once per episode, like Chris brought up Doom.

Jose Horrach

Love Dustin on the show he keeps Colin and Chris from turning into the emo kids from South Park.

BM

This! And he probably already has a few. Personally I'm just going to replat the game, but not everyone has to do that!

Dav9834

I remember episode 150 of Beyond, the golden years of Beyond. I really miss Clements, I'd love to see him on a sacred symbols+

Dav9834

Congrats Dustin! Have loved your inclusion on the show since the first episode you appeared. Great show boys.

EVERYONE GO PLAY RE7. It’s awesome and will only take about 7 hours. Congrats Dustin. (:

Andrew

Returnal ain't for everyone boys, get over it. Thanks Colin for articulating my problems with the game. Yet another divisive game where mainstream reviews were unanimously positive.

Your Boi Nicky V

Sorry I still think the 2 person dynamic is very strong. It was strong with PS I Love You. And it was strong with OG Sacred Symbols with Colin + Chris. I know not everyone wants to hear it but fair is fair if others voice their support for the permanent host (and this is nothing against Dustin at all, its more just the concept of the 3rd host, so please don’t take it that way). And maybe I’m trying to listen too deeply but my honest opinion I feel the on air chemistry between Chris and Colin has been affected since having Dustin. But, obviously still excited each week and of course this is still the best video game podcast on the Internet :)

Zack E

Would love a port of The Orange Box. Never played Team Fortress 2, so it’d be fun to try it for the first time. Half Life 2 is an incredible game. 60 FPS with a platinum trophy would be awesome.

Brandon Soto

I vouched for Dustin as a 3rd member since the beginning. It was messed up the things that were being said about him. Nonetheless, congrats bud! Well deserved.

Brandon Soto

Great to hear Dustin's a mainstay! Always has thoughtful takes and you three have great synergy together. I never had doubts Colin, keep on making the greatest podcast on the internet!

Steve Gray

Congrats Dustin! I always knew you're going to find your footing where you want to be in the industry. You are thoughtful and bring a lot to the show. You 3 all bring a variety of perspectives to our industry! ❤️

John Russell

Wouldn’t a 360 degree turn mean you ended up exactly where you started?

Michael

I gotta say this: Returnal has three criteria for getting really good at the game. 1)Staying mobile. 2)Finding the gun works for you. 3)Learning enemy move sets. For me, the hollowseeker was king. Finding your gun type is so important because it provides confidence in your ability to survive. Housemarque made a really fantastic game. Their "talent" is certainly not questionable. Returnal isn't something like say Mass Effect Andromeda, a complete misstep, that had people scratch their heads at Bioware. Anywho, congrats to Dustin! Dustin believer here. Thank you for the diversity you bring to the show!

Joseph Cerini

So happy you’re getting your shine Dustin!! Can’t wait for your Nier Replicant review episode with Matty , and keep repping us weebs ;p. Hope we can get a Q&A with you for Sacred Symbols ++ when that happens

Ryan Harvey

Great Jaffe conversation, Colin! Can't wait for you to further role play a commie in Disco Elysium ;) lol

Jake Z

Wtf is wrong with you guys.. Avatar is a damn good movie. Anywho, I never really got into the first Horizon game, and don’t have much interest in the second, but I’m really hopeful it comes out this fall just to clear up Guerrilla to start talking about the next game. Y’all speculating a Socom reboot has me cautiously hopeful. It’s past due for a really good PlayStation first or second party multiplayer shooter.

Samuel Ashley

IM A DUSTIN BELIEVER

Avery Cope

Very much looking forward to seeing what you guys think those 25 games could be

Stephen Forgione

Congrats to Dustin! Your voice adds a good diversity to the show and couldn't be happier that you're now a full time 3rd chair. Fuck the haters!

Jay Bayles

He hurt his hand gripping the "controller." Yeah, go with that story.

Jeremy Seal

Dustin, I’ll be honest I remember the first time you were on the show. It was last summer I was riding on my riding lawn mower cutting my lawn and the first time I heard a third voice on the show I was horrified. I didn’t want it. I didn’t want the shows dynamic corrupted by a trio. I really hoped to god at that time this was a one off. I contemplating commenting in protest but bit my tongue. But than time and time again you returned to the show. Fast forward to today. My attitude has takin a 180 degree turn, you grew on me and I found I began hoping for the Dustin episodes. Well anyways sorry for the anecdote but Congrats and welcome to the show Dustin!

Nathan Favreau

Dustin earned it, he’s a great addition to the show

Welcome Dustin. So glad you are a permanent part of the show. Also thanks for mentioning Trigger Witch Colin! That game looks awesome. I will be picking this up for sure. Great show guys!

Eric S

Congrats Dustin!!!

Daniel Barberena

This is great news, I love Dustin.

Jeremy Seal

Colin, just play the Final Fantasy DLC on another profile, so the trophies don't sync to yours, if that's what's bothering you.

Matt

Congratulations Dustin 👏👏👏 Happy for you!

Brian Berghuis

Congrats Dustin! I was too hard on you when you initially joined. Was worried Chris was getting replaced. But I've grown to enjoy you being on the show, and I'm really happy for you.

Matt

I too was one of those 10% of recent subscribers. Glad business is boomin. Greetings from AZ 🌵

Ivan Corona

Reppin’ that Furm

Paco_Luigi

Admittedly I joined for Karak and Matty, but I’m staying for Dustin 😘

Paco_Luigi

Agreed with everything you said, I'm usually apprehensive to change but Dustin hit the ground running IMO from his first apperance and he adds a lot of insight to the group.

Jett Misko

LETS GOOOO Dustin!!! Much deserved.

Jett Misko

Congratulations Dustin. We’re in a new era now.

Joshua Brown

I love that Dustin got that passing of the torch moment :')

Kendrick Luckenbach

I think Gabe has been living in NZ for a while now. Also its pronounced Dee-mi-tres-coo :) Congrats Dustin.

Phil Walker

Always been a Dustin believer. And I learned to trust Colin with the decisions he makes early on (he is just ahead of the curve). Much love to all the LSM team.

Luis Sanchez

Hey CCD, I know I'm not the only one who feels this way but I just wanted to share one positive bit of feedback. I distinctly remember being quite concerned when I heard a third chair was being added. I also remember after Dustin's first couple episodes my general feeling was I thought he was solid but it felt bittersweet getting slightly less Colin/Chris per episode. I'm happy to say as of today I couldn't even imagine SS without Dustin and in fact his input is often my favorite part of many episodes. Congrats Dustin, very well deserved!

PapaFlow

Congrats Dustin!!!

If gamepass is the best deal in gaming then LSM is the best deal in games media!

Michael Buffill

Congrats Dustin!!! ❤❤❤

Marcus Brown

Congratulations Dustin. Love having you on. 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

D'Ante Almo

Dustin has been a great addition to the show. Very happy to hear he'll now be an official full-time member!

Jon Cordeiro

You should play more guitar hero Metallica. That game was amazing.

Dennis Parker

Haven’t listened yet, but Dustin will be full time. Very good choice indeed!

Quintin Propes

Congrats Dustin!

GameSimp

I like Dustin. I like 3 hour long episodes. I like more content for the same great price. Keep it up, boys.

Matthew Two T's

Lets go I love me a long episode 👏🏻

Jack Doheny

Dustin has survived and persevered through all the hard work. We love you Dustin!!

Caolan Lennon

Happy Friday everyone

Nick La Creta


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