KnockBack, Episode 174 | The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers (film)
Added 2021-06-07 16:01:03 +0000 UTCDuring episode #167 of KnockBack, we spent nearly three hours gushing about Peter Jackson's 2001 rendition of The Lord of the Rings' first book, Fellowship of the Ring. Naturally, we couldn't merely stop there. The following year -- in 2002 -- the second of three Lord of the Rings movies came out. It's called The Two Towers, and this is the flick and book alike that many people consider the best in Tolkein's Trilogy. But does the film hold up, particularly with a heavy mix of special and practical effects? How about the performances and the story? We've much to discuss, of course. So join us as we delve back into Middle-earth, where things are just starting to heat up...
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Great podcast! But I think it should’ve been mentioned how Two Towers, in the book, is in two disjointed parts—beginning with Aragorn/Helm’s Deep storyline in the first half and then Frodo’s & Sam’s journey in the back half. It’s weird, and arguably better, pacing with the film. Colin also mentions there are big moments from the book that were omitted from the film, maybe referring to the spider confrontation.? Where in the book, that conflict finds resolution, but the film leaves it as a cliffhanger. And again, I’d argue it’s better placing in the film to leave the viewers at the edge of their seats.
Kid-Organic
2021-08-28 20:20:06 +0000 UTCGlad to be here for you. <3
Colin Moriarty
2021-06-14 21:37:21 +0000 UTCGood stuff!
Colin Moriarty
2021-06-14 21:37:14 +0000 UTCIt doesn't look good, IMO.
Colin Moriarty
2021-06-14 21:37:07 +0000 UTCOh man what a treat. I really needed this today.
Cooper Bibaud
2021-06-14 03:22:21 +0000 UTCThis.
Michael Size
2021-06-13 15:46:53 +0000 UTCI can see how that might be an interpretation. When he stated that though it was in reference to Jews and Gentiles. To the Jews of that day, the idea of a prophet or savior helping anyone who wasn’t a Jew wasn’t really in anyone’s mind. Jesus (the good shepherd) was stating that not only would he herd his fold (the Jews) but those of another fold (the Gentiles). I hope that helps!
Dick McFarmhouse
2021-06-12 18:42:07 +0000 UTCJesus even says "I have sheep in other pastures" when he leaves Earth. Which to me is definitely talking about life on other planets.
Jeremy Seal
2021-06-12 18:27:37 +0000 UTCThe Bible does not state that we are alone in the universe. It does however state that we are unique and made in image of God and for his purpose for his glory. It does warn against contacting spirits in other realms/dimensions stating that it leads to demonic presences and to confuse and mislead humans. If you look up alien contact experiences some of the most popular are people discussing contacting other dimensions and speaking to aliens via DMT, meditation, etc. The belief we are alone in universe from some Christians is because of nature of the redemption story of Gods people through Christ and the nature of sin. Also for some additional perspective, Angels and Demons are extraterrestrial beings. Sorry for the knowledge dump but I hope that help the religion question.
Dick McFarmhouse
2021-06-11 21:49:46 +0000 UTCFailing in my search for that quote, I did find the interview with Jackson on his process for remastering the movie in 4K. So I must be misremembering something. I want to se the 4K version to judge the quality for myself.
Stefan Catinella
2021-06-11 19:00:13 +0000 UTCSo before the 4k version of the movie was released I read somewhere that Peter Jackson did not want the movie released in 4k because they did not render the CGI to look good at that quality. I was surprised when the 4K blue-rays were released despite reading this. I will try and find the quote and post it here. I haven't purchased the 4k version yet myself, but I plan to watch it on my PS5 and see for myself.
Stefan Catinella
2021-06-11 18:50:46 +0000 UTCIf you're an alien race that's paying attention to shit in your galactic neighborhood and you suddenly pick up spectra indicating nuclear bombs were detonated, you'd be very intrigued!
Colin Moriarty
2021-06-10 14:36:22 +0000 UTCThey definitely do, to me.
Colin Moriarty
2021-06-10 14:35:41 +0000 UTCHeh heh.
Colin Moriarty
2021-06-10 14:35:36 +0000 UTCThe star wars prequels look better? That's a take
Phil Walker
2021-06-10 14:14:01 +0000 UTC“Shadowfax…yeahhhh” lol. Leave that horse alone. Legolas on the shield is super random but I enjoy it. I’m just like there’s Legolas being all cool again. 😅
NeO JD
2021-06-10 01:25:45 +0000 UTCI specifically liked when Colin mentioned aliens arriving after we started playing with nuclear power. It made me think of the Star Trek movie First Contact where the catalyst for Vulcans reaching out to humanity because of hyperdrive technology.
Omar
2021-06-09 23:41:29 +0000 UTCWas wondering this myself. I haven't seen the latest 4k transfer of the trilogy yet though, so maybe the cg effects stand out more than they did in lower resolution versions?
Greg Ohlenforst
2021-06-09 02:04:55 +0000 UTCColin is it possible that you had the smoothing setting on your tv turned on when you watched the movie? I've watched the Two Towers recently and true some of CG doesn't hold up I don't remember it being that bad.
jamill payne
2021-06-09 00:11:50 +0000 UTCNice quote. =)
Colin Moriarty
2021-06-08 20:29:42 +0000 UTCListening to this right now, and I gotta say that each time you guys mention allegory it reminds me of an excerpt from the foreword in LOTR that Tolkien wrote: "I cordially dislike allegory in all its manifestations, and always have done so since I grew old and wary enough to detect its presence. I much prefer history – true or feigned– with its varied applicability to the thought and experience of readers. I think that many confuse applicability with allegory, but the one resides in the freedom of the reader, and the other in the purposed domination of the author." J.R.R. Tolkien, The Fellowship of the Ring (The Lord of the Rings, #1)
Dustin Shaneyfelt
2021-06-08 16:38:46 +0000 UTCThank you. Maybe one day!
Colin Moriarty
2021-06-08 16:29:34 +0000 UTCThey're very cool.
Colin Moriarty
2021-06-08 16:29:27 +0000 UTCWhat?!
Colin Moriarty
2021-06-08 16:29:18 +0000 UTCHeh heh.
Colin Moriarty
2021-06-08 16:29:14 +0000 UTC=)
Colin Moriarty
2021-06-08 16:29:08 +0000 UTCWould be fun.
Colin Moriarty
2021-06-08 16:29:04 +0000 UTCHey, whatever you say, Greg!
Colin Moriarty
2021-06-08 16:28:59 +0000 UTCHope you enjoy(ed) our discussion.
Colin Moriarty
2021-06-08 16:28:49 +0000 UTCWe touched on this movie in a very early episode, but it will be fun to do it proper.
Colin Moriarty
2021-06-08 16:28:42 +0000 UTCThat would be fun, though we'd have to structure it a certain way.
Colin Moriarty
2021-06-08 16:28:28 +0000 UTC=)
Colin Moriarty
2021-06-08 16:28:09 +0000 UTCAbsolutely love the conversation about Aliens, the impact of discovering them would be massive. Fascinating topic. If that report is remotely interesting I'd love to have an episode about it 😊
Michael Robinson
2021-06-08 12:13:05 +0000 UTCI'm with you guys - I love the Ents and their last march. I typically am drawn to those world-building elements that are briefly touched upon and leave so much for the imagination to fill in. It also helps that I am also a lover of forests and the woods. Great episode!
Justin Matkowski
2021-06-08 00:56:53 +0000 UTCDwarf on golf, great movie lol
Michael Thew
2021-06-07 21:36:10 +0000 UTCYou’re right. I have a bad memory haha
Madshibs
2021-06-07 21:34:10 +0000 UTCThey kinda talked about it in an earlier episode. "Movies we watched too young" or something like that
Jar_Farters_inc
2021-06-07 20:39:40 +0000 UTCLiterally forgot this was a Two Towers podcast I was that enthralled by the UFO conversation.
Quinn
2021-06-07 19:15:25 +0000 UTCguys guys guys, don’t worry about aliens! Dan Aykroyd got drunk off his vodka with Larry King and confirmed aliens have no interest in us because terrorism!
Jacob
2021-06-07 18:11:59 +0000 UTCLove the UFO/ Alien talk. I always say it when it comes up, but you two need to do a whole episode on this subject I think.
Aurang
2021-06-07 17:41:42 +0000 UTCTwo towers is my fav after a few times through the trilogy as well. There’s something magical about the cream in the lotr Oreo
Greg Mocha
2021-06-07 17:28:20 +0000 UTCCan’t wait to listen. The two towers is probably my favorite film of all time and my favorite of my favorite trilogy.
Will Ellis
2021-06-07 17:04:42 +0000 UTCBoys, after hearing your discussion on UAPs, UFOs, aliens and communists, I’d LOVE to hear a Knockback about Fire in the Sky, the 1993 movie about the alleged alien abduction of Travis Walton and a movie that had me absolutely petrified of the idea of extraterrestrial encounters. Colin mentioned how terrifying it was and I think it’s be interesting to see how the conversation jumps around between the movie, it’s concepts, and the real-world events happening now around the military and the mysterious encounters we’re hearing about. Thanks dudes.
Madshibs
2021-06-07 16:56:17 +0000 UTCWe need a UFO episode now
Brian Comstock
2021-06-07 16:52:54 +0000 UTCSweet!
Brett the Illustrator
2021-06-07 16:04:17 +0000 UTC
