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Sacred Symbols, Episode 154: All's Not Quiet

It's E3! While PlayStation has gone largely incognito -- frustrating our ability to pore over new first and second party announcements -- there's still a whole lot to talk about when it comes to its third party partners. Heck, our run-time proves it! Let's chat about a new Final Fantasy game, the official reveal of Guardians of the Galaxy, the reemergence of Elden Ring, the confirmation of a new Battlefield, and more. Let's also digest a very strange Death Stranding PS5 trailer that seems to say a whole lot more than people are giving it credit for, a new PlayStation second party relationship that makes no sense, Platinum Games' play for games-as-a-service with Babylon's Fall, new statements from PlayStation CEO Jim Ryan, an indication from Naughty Dog that its new multiplayer project is a whole lot bigger than we thought, Yuji Naka's surprise retirement, and so much more. Like we said: Jam-packed!

Note: Video is coming.

Timestamps:

0:00:16 - Intro

0:10:25 - Would we rather fight 1 horse sized duck or 100 duck sized horses?

0:15:26 - What have we been playing?

1:07:52 - Stranger of Paradise Final Fantasy Origin has been revealed and is coming in 2022.

1:23:03 - Square Enix has revealed their Guardians of the Galaxy title.

1:31:20 - Elden Ring has been re-revealed and will be released January 21st, 2022.

1:46:25 - Battlefield 2042 has been revealed and will be multiplayer only.

1:57:52 - Sony has partnered with newly formed Deviation Games for a new IP.

2:07:06 - Death Stranding is getting a PS5 port under the title of Death Stranding Director’s Cut.

2:18:37 - Avatar: Frontiers of Pandora has been revealed and is slated for release in 2022.

2:26:42 - Ubisoft has re-revealed Rainbow Six: Extraction.

2:33:43 - Some Xbox conference announcements that are relevant to the PlayStation ecosystem.

2:39:37 - Babylon’s Fall has re-emerged and will come to PS4 as well as PS5.

2:50:01 - Ubisoft is reviving Rocksmith with Rocksmith+

2:53:22 - Riders Republic will release on September 2nd, 2021.

2:54:24 - Jim Ryan is defending his previous comments about old games.

2:57:49 - Sony is working to build their mobile gaming platform.

3:03:32 - Naughty Dog is hiring for a multiplayer project.

3:14:43 - Koch Media has revealed Prime Matter.

3:20:51 - A leaked ESRB rating suggests The Medium is coming to PlayStation.

3:22:00 - Yugi Naka is no longer at Square Enix.

3:29:43 - The third title in The Dark Pictures Anthology, House of Ashes, will launch on October 22nd.

3:35:20 - Back 4 Blood is a Day One Game Pass game and will be available on other platforms.

3:39:15 - Axiom Verge 2 will be released on PS4 & PS5.

3:42:25 - EA and CD Projekt Red have been hacked.

3:47:06 - Sony has revealed the top downloaded games for May.

3:48:56 - Netflix is working on more video game adaptations.

3:56:30 - News Wrap-Up

4:02:38 - Are you using walkthroughs wrong?

4:07:43 - Is there a lack of motivation to do “clean-up” after we finish the story of an open-world game?

4:10:10 - What does it mean for a game to be political?

4:16:32 - Is Sony overcorrecting by putting PS5 games on PS4?
4:23:26 - Why doesn’t Sony allow rentals of digital games?

4:27:15 - Is there a desire for PlayStation All-Stars Battle Royale 2?

Sacred Symbols, Episode 154: All's Not Quiet

Comments

I'd like to see it. I'm surely gonna play the game; I like Massive a lot.

Colin Moriarty

For sure.

Colin Moriarty

Avatar is an incredible film and I'm sure it will make a great game too. Yes, the basic plot of the film is derivative, but it's well told and the world, visuals, action and music are all amazing. The incoming sequels will expand upon the world/lore and I would imagine the game will tie into this somehow. Never bet against James Cameron! FYI, Unobtanium is an engineering term/in-joke that's existed way longer than Avatar has. It's a placeholder name for a hypothetical, perfect material that will help solve a particular problem. Which is pretty apt for the McGuffin as seen in the film. Thinking about it, McGuffin would also have worked actually. Maybe they'll be fighting over the Pandora McGuffin Mines in the sequels.

Chris Deadman

Chris the Splinter Celibate

Jason Cartwright

*shrugs* It's hard to tell what's what, honestly.

Colin Moriarty

I'm glad.

Colin Moriarty

It's not going to happen. LOL.

Colin Moriarty

=D

Colin Moriarty

Sounds like the Tanker music to me, but I've not done a forensic examination.

Colin Moriarty

I'm glad! <3

Colin Moriarty

Love these girthy THICC episodes

If Chris, Leon, Claire or Jill were cast black, there also would’ve been outrage, so I don’t agree with your whole “Internet people just being angry” approach.

Brandon Soto

I liked man of medan.

lazer_josh

I think Jim Ryan can be free of that comment when they implement backwards compatibility. They have vaulted off tons of games for no good reason and Ryan’s comments explain why.

Oliver Johnson

I love how Chris’ immediate thought on the duck/horse question was food. 😄 “Whoa. A lil spanky.” Oh Dustin. lol I agree with Chris on GotG. The game looks like it’ll be delayed. Visuals and combat don’t seem up to par. I’d say this doesn’t even look better than Telltale’s version of GotG. “I have enough abuse in my life, like I need to abuse myself.” 😄 I think ND can get away with TLOU2’s mp being full price. Millions of gamers just means their reach, especially after all the GOTY awards they just won.

NeO JD

Not sure if someone already said this, but the music in the Death Stranding trailer wasn’t actual music from Metal Gear. It sounds VERY close to the music from MGS2. Plus, the oranges, the rat in the air duct, the lighting of the warehouse… oh yeah, something’s in the works.

Forrest Hunter

Gross. =\

Colin Moriarty

Thanks! It was an interesting experience.

Colin Moriarty

Rainbow Six 3 on Xbox was like... a life-changing experience for me.

Colin Moriarty

Indeed.

Colin Moriarty

I wish they could expand upon Terrorist Hunt and add more enemies and remove the time limit on harder difficulties as additional option. As well as why can’t we use all operators for terrorist hunt? R6 Siege is and has always been a half ass made game that they doubled down on.

Samuel Zamora

As a R6 fan I want the grounded nature again and would love for the series to go back to the original games. Also I want my SC Chaos Theory remake! Of all the games shown so far (6/15/2021 @ 6:36am), I am excited for Sifu and could care less for what else was shown.

Samuel Zamora

Ben is the MVP with these long edits.

Michael Welter

Colin, I am happy to see you push through with Returnal. I had a very similar experience to you and also with my experience (or rather frustration) with Souls games. As with you, I progressed slowly over a couple of weeks (I know you were longer), and did feel that existential angst over the game. I found myself going to my basement to boot up the game and turning my back on everything else for a while, only to surface when I pulled through. If I hadn’t pushed through, the game would have ruined everyone else for me…crazy experience.

The Eclectic Gamer

Regarding the horse meat talk - there was a scandal in the UK where it was found that a lot of the meat sold at one of the biggest supermarkets in the country contained horse meat. It’s an iconic British news story

Dan Morgan

Rainbow Six Siege is a 5v5, and there is a PVE mode called Training Grounds that can be played solo or co-op. Also interesting fact, back in the winter of 2018, there was a LTM event called Outbreak in RB6 which was basically similar to RB6 Extraction. So I’m guessing it was a testing ground for what would become that game. Also don’t forget that Sam Fisher was added as an attacking RB6 operator last year. Which means he could make an appearance in Extraction to further rub salt in Chris’ Splinter Cell wounds.

Pablo Herrera

I think we will slowly start to see more and more PS5/XSX exclusives next year, and less crossover games. It's just a temporary transitional time right now I believe. I'm in between you and Chris. I do believe times are changing a bit with their strategies and the gaming world (they're definitely taking some notes from Steam) and that there is a big market with PS4 for right now, especially during COVID, whether we like to admit it or not (PS2 and PS3 are less comparable than 4 to 5; PS2 isn't even HD). I also believe games definitely will take advantage of next gen in ways that are impossible on last gen, but usually early gen games don't look or perform as good as they could anyways since devs need time to acquaint with the new hardware, right? Thus, the opportunity to do more crossover for now. Think Uncharted 1 vs TLOU. As you said, that DualSense is too good to not take advantage of too.

Dylan Neves

Yes. =)

Colin Moriarty

That is an insane catch. Props to the little man.

Giovanni D'Amico

Really enjoying how speculative these conversations became. Imagining and trying to forecast the future can be a lot of fun!

James McGivern

So, my very observant son made a discovery when I watching the Death Stranding Director's Cut trailer. He said he saw a persons breath. Right after Sam gets out of the box, you see someones breath from the left side of the screen. I swear, it sounds exactly like a Solid Snake grunt. Check it out, guys.

Jeremy Seal

Gotta say, I would totally get down with PS all stars 2. It was highly underrated by people who didn't play it

Paul Andrew

It's so bullshit that if Nomura's name is ANYWHERE on a game, he gets the blame for whatever's wrong with it. He is credited as creating the concept, designing the main characters, assumedly in their street clothes designs, and is "creative producer". Nojima wrote the story, Daisuke Inoue directed the game, Jin Fukjiware produced it. Maybe let's learn to direct criticism at someone else, not just you guys I see a lot of people pointing fingers, as Nomura has directed a single game outside of Kingdom Hearts and that was FF7R which you all liked. Rant over. Much love.

Kaleb

Don't knock cannibalism until you try it.

TROTMAC96

I will play them one day. Like I said, I already own 'em.

Colin Moriarty

I see. That's a fair critique.

Colin Moriarty

I realize I've been slow-playing it because I'm going too fast. I feel like I got 35% through the game in a blink.

Colin Moriarty

Be strong.

Colin Moriarty

Ah, I misread.

Colin Moriarty

<3

Colin Moriarty

Glad it got sorted.

Colin Moriarty

They do a great job!

Colin Moriarty

I don't get the reference.

Colin Moriarty

Thanks for submitting it!

Colin Moriarty

Embrace your inner animal.

Colin Moriarty

Something's up, no doubt.

Colin Moriarty

You're welcome!

Colin Moriarty

Yes.

Colin Moriarty

<3

Colin Moriarty

I'll do it in the next couple of days.

Colin Moriarty

!!!

Colin Moriarty

Thank you!

Colin Moriarty

Please stay strong.

Colin Moriarty

It's been a ride!

Colin Moriarty

It's hot as hades here in the south as well. <3

Colin Moriarty

Heh heh.

Colin Moriarty

DM me if you're still having issues.

Colin Moriarty

Maybe.

Colin Moriarty

DM if you're still having problems.

Colin Moriarty

E3 is different than it's ever been... and for that, I think it's fine.

Colin Moriarty

I need pounds, I can't do the kilograms thing. I have no reference.

Colin Moriarty

=)

Colin Moriarty

No, thank YOU!

Colin Moriarty

!!!

Colin Moriarty

My first job was at a horse stable. I have no idea why I failed to bring that up.

Colin Moriarty

Maybe one day.

Colin Moriarty

Rewind when necessary.

Colin Moriarty

It's really not a great idea.

Colin Moriarty

Yes.

Colin Moriarty

You're welcome. Thank you for your support!

Colin Moriarty

Please enjoy!

Colin Moriarty

Oh man. Hahaha.

Colin Moriarty

Indeed.

Colin Moriarty

You're welcome.

Colin Moriarty

We told you it'd be late, and when we'd publish it!

Colin Moriarty

That's right.

Colin Moriarty

You're very welcome.

Colin Moriarty

Our pleasure. Many thanks for your support.

Colin Moriarty

It'll be here for you in the morning. =)

Colin Moriarty

Welcome.

Colin Moriarty

It's up!

Colin Moriarty

Correct.

Colin Moriarty

That's what she said.

Colin Moriarty

Yes.

Colin Moriarty

It is.

Colin Moriarty

=)

Colin Moriarty

!!!

Colin Moriarty

Idk what Dustin’s talking about with Dark Pictures. I got all the achievements for both games: they’re good. He says they’re not good, but they’re just not >as good< as Until Dawn. Which makes sense, the games didn’t have the same budgets nor intended scale. You should play them, Colin, and see what you think. It’s also very fun co-op, so you and Micah could play together.

Caleb Greer

The reason why people get upset about Wesker being black is because it is a tokenization where if they made up a whole new character who was inherently black I think that pays more respect to the black community. There are a few outspoken people of color who inherently do not like when they make white characters black because of this tokenization

Travis B

Avatar is way better than Dances With Wolves

Jake Z

I would pay an obscene amount for a remastered/remake FF6.

Allen Crenshaw

Love how much you guys are loving Ratchet and Clank 🙏

Jake Z

Trying to resist the urge to listen to this before my 7 hour car ride is very difficult.

Anthony Palerino

Avatar is just a rip-off of Dances With Wolves

The final fantasy demo came out the same day it was announced but the demo is corrupted and cannot be played. But Colin I agree with you this is nomura at his worst. It’s clear the game is supposed to be an isekai and that these characters are summoned from the modern world but it looks bad. The dialogue is bad. They released the character bios to famitsu and the bios read like someone wrote it in five minutes. Also how many times do they have to mention chaos?

Kenneth Oms

😍

Bono Silva

Will the video edition go up today for each tier as it’s not popping up on my feed but is up no your YouTube channel. Maybe the video upload is faster on YouTube than Patreon 🤷🏻‍♂️ ( edit comment the video popped up on my feed about 25min after it popped up on YouTube lol)

Wayne Moss

huuuuuuuuuge props to Dustin and Ben for the editing in this. despite being filmed separately in multiple days, the transitions to each segment are so seamless you'd think that this was all in one sitting. a great episode too, keep up the good work guys!

Mike Childs

Colin is the CM Punk of the gaming industry. I have no idea why it took me this long to make that ironic connection.

Max Stahl

Thanks for taking time during the show to answer my question!

Jack Palumbo

A nearly 5 hour podcast? Time to gorge like an animal of prey

GameSimp

I’ve literally been waiting a decade to play Final Fantasy VI with trophies.

Nicholas Perfect

Hmm yea I know the MGS OST pretty well and I don't think the Death Stranding trailer has an actual MGS track, it's definitely trying to sound like it though. Also the Bluepoint tweet referencing MGS could refer to them working on the HD Collection for PS3 / 360. Something's definitely up though 😁

Your Boi Nicky V

No, it's the editing lol, idk wtf happened but it's fucked up around the 17 minute mark for sure with Chris and Colin talking at the same time and there's a long pause sometime before that.

Brandon Breeland

This is the only E3 podcast I need. Thanks guys.

Andreas Lennartsson

4 hours and 37 minute, I'll be sleeping late tonight.

Boots!

Holy cow 4 1/2 hours of your beautiful voices. Can’t wait!

Quintin Propes

I platinumed ratchet and clank rift apart game in under 10 hours. Just like others in this series the game is not long

Wayde

Right? This fucked me up haha

Adam Barnes

Holy shit almost 5 hrs. Yesss

brody_low

Was this edited really badly or is my phone fucking around on me? Lol

Adam Barnes

Also I would like to compliment the cast you have put together here. You have put together people who have different tastes and that avoids an echo chamber which I like. I almost never agree with chris or Dustin and that's my favorite part of yall show.

Big titty drinker

My RSS feed is getting a 404 error and the download direct from Patreon also fails. It also won't stream the audio either.

GroovyBaby

Hey colin I beat returnal in 72 hours with 7 deaths total. That's game is not hard you just need to play strategically. Your integrity level should dictate your decisions at all times

Big titty drinker

Download isn't working for me. Anybody else having this issue?

GroovyBaby

I can't in good conscience continue to listen to the audio version without knowing how Chris looks in his red hat and red pants, barely a minute in. I gave it my best but I need to see your beautiful faces.

Tristen Wilbers

Really enjoyed Colin's spiel on Returnal at the beginning. I share a lot of the same sentiments! Can't wait for the spoilercast

Jeremy Tan

My godamn kids are still awake and I refuse to listen in intervals. 😧🥵 plus it was hot as fuck in LA today things just chilled out and thank you for this treat. 4 fucking hrs let's go.

Frank G.

Starting the episode. About 20 minutes in. There’s a long Pregnant Pause which seems unnatural, almost like something is cut out. Also, during the initial Returnal talk, about 17 minutes in, there’s a super awkward portion where Colin is talking and all of a sudden Chris talks, and it’s like nobody hears Chris. Just a little heads up. I know there was a super quick turn around time on this episode.

Adrian Pinter

I've been waiting all weekend to hear Chris's thought on Eldin Ring being real

Anthony J Sanchez

Also unable to download/play

But like I've been saying sony is the heart and soul of e3.

Big titty drinker

Cant download, says that it's not found... anyone else having issues or is this just another "dean" issue in life?

Dean Redinbaugh

E3 was kinda ass as a whole , xbox did okay I give them a 6.5/10 ( a 5 personally) they just dont make games that appeal to me that much. A few gems tho replaced and atomic heart look fire.

Big titty drinker

A horse sized duck would only weigh about 200kgs as opposed to a regular 2 ton horse. Go with the large duck. Each of those little horses weighs about 10kg

Ayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyye!! Hell yeah mothafuckas!

Big titty drinker

Havnt watched yet but man, let's all appreciate how much dedication these merry men give. 4.5 hours?? The value per dollar is ever growing with LSM. Thank you!

Zack Apuzzo

4.5 hours... holy moly. Worth the wait!

Reuben Barrett

Horses pretty common in places like Florida in the United States it's not horrible but it's extremely tough

Wayde

Waiting for video so not sure what was mentioned, but I would love a new playstation all stars. So many cool new characters to use. Aloy, astrobot, Jin (ghost of tsushima), bloodborne dude, nioh, etc.

Sean P

I’ll hit the beginning then disappear into the void that is sleep.

TL

PS All stars 2 is a great idea, what kush is Chris smoking

Real Radec

4.5hrs glorious

Wayde

The Snyder Cut of Sacred Symbols episodes. Thanks for the wonderful content guys!

Ready to go the whole stretch!

Jason K

Chris may be a splinter cell fan but i’m a beyond good and evil fan. it can always be worse

Jacob

A 4 hour extravaganza!

Luis N.

Holy shit the runtime. Thank you boys!

Ian Spencer

Wow! Was wondering why it was so late. Guess now I know. Now to wait a small eternity for PocketCasts to acknowledge it...

Paul R.

Big boy episode

Jacob Alexander Irvine

Yesss! Thank you!

Kendrick Luckenbach

Awesome for you guys to put this out the same day! Thanks for the awesome timing as always! Looking forward to listening to this one at work in the morning 👍

Cody Richter

looks like i wont be going to bed tonight...

Timothy Bryant

Sweet mother of god, I'm in

Jordan Avery

*Waits impatiently for video*

Liam Mcnulty

4 hours. Martin Scorsese would say “ this is cinema”

Andrew

So long. Nice.

Raymond Aludino

Nice

Hose A Contra Razz

It's...it's here?... LFG!!!!!!!

Marcus Brown

4 and a half hours! LFG.

Antonio Pereira

Let’s GOOOOOOOOO

Spencer F.


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