Sacred Symbols, Episode 158: Hunting the Hunter
Added 2021-07-09 16:00:09 +0000 UTCSony's newest State of Play presentation gave us a glimpse at some third-party games of varying quality, Death Stranding's PS5 port, a sequel to one of PSVR's most notable adventures, and so on. We also got a deep dive into Arkane's upcoming PS5 console-exclusive Deathloop, and it looks amazing. With its Dishonored roots shining through, Deathloop is like Returnal meets Hitman. Let's chat about that, the rest of the State of Play slate, and all of the week's other news, too. Speaking of Returnal, Housemarque apparently had other suitors before Sony secured the team, Ubisoft is making some major, series-altering changes to Assassin's Creed, Electronic Arts' DICE LA has a new name, RoboCop and Dan Houser are both making video game comebacks, and much more. Plus: Should "influencers" be hiding their Trophies and Achievements? Is it high time for Persona 4 to come to PlayStation 4? Where in God's name are PS5's external hard drives? What's with Chris' enormous water bottle?
Timestamps:
0:00:16 - Intro
0:04:00 - Corrections and Comments.
0:11:03 - What’s our take on influencers hiding their trophies and achievements?
0:18:56 - June 8th’s State of Play
1:11:04 - Nintendo is making an OLED Switch.
1:19:34 - A few smaller news items.
1:26:38 - What is a bad game we’ve played that should get a remake?
1:31:05 - What video game character’s name should I give my child?
1:34:08 - What have we been playing?
1:42:26 - New information about PlayStation’s purchase of Housemarque has emerged.
1:49:16 - The next Assassin’s Creed game will be a little different.
2:04:35 - DICE LA is now called Ripple Effect Studios.
2:10:04 - Robocop is getting a new game.
2:20:01 - Dan Houser is returning to video games.
2:27:55 - The PSP store closure is not what we thought it would be.
2:31:45 - Guilty Gear Strive has some changes in certain regions. (POLITICAL TOPIC)
2:45:00 - Test Drive is being revived.
2:50:43 - Atari appears to be returning to console gaming.
2:59:43 - Mortal Kombat 11 will no longer be supported or receive DLC.
3:02:50 - Could PlayStation Now start doing things a little differently?
3:12:59 - News Wrap-Up
3:14:42 - Why do we use the word “mechanic” when referring to functions in video games?
3:19:56 - Should Persona 4 get ported to console?
3:23:44 - What qualifies as a skilled gamer?
3:33:49 - When will we hear more about the SSD expansion slot?
3:39:36 - Have we tried going back to the DualShock 4 after using a DualSense?
Comments
Viva la Vita
FluffyNeko
2021-07-20 06:51:10 +0000 UTCThanks for speaking freely and speaking out for oppressed and bullied people in Asia cause they can't do so. When such topic comes up in other gaming podcasts owned by corporations it is just met with awkward silence.
Your name
2021-07-15 18:27:36 +0000 UTCOn using the DualShock 4 or any other favourite PS4 controller to play PS5 games on PS5, you can try using USB devices like ConsoleTuner Titan Two or Cronus Zen. Both works great. I can use back my ASTRO C40 TR to play all my PS5 games 👍
Your name
2021-07-15 17:50:31 +0000 UTCI am starting to realize it seems less based on your internet speed and more on your physical location. My internet at my condo is not very good but I have almost no lag problems whatsoever even with using wifi and 4G LTE, same with many of my local friends i have talked to about it. But it other areas, even with gigabit and 5g ultrawide it is basically unplayable.
David Taylor
2021-07-14 13:56:45 +0000 UTCI just said "big mommy milkers"
Evan Bederman
2021-07-14 00:49:18 +0000 UTCI don't know what you just said, little kid.
Colin Moriarty
2021-07-13 23:23:09 +0000 UTCThanks! After the late news about Crytek, I'll be right back into it.
Colin Moriarty
2021-07-13 23:22:50 +0000 UTCThere's good news: Another company will fill the void. =)
Colin Moriarty
2021-07-13 23:22:38 +0000 UTCYes.
Colin Moriarty
2021-07-13 23:22:27 +0000 UTC<3
Colin Moriarty
2021-07-13 23:22:23 +0000 UTCSmall grammar note: the way you're using the term "mechanic" is still using it as a noun. When you say "X is a gameplay mechanic of Returnal", the word "mechanic" is still a noun. It's the object of the sentence, the word "gameplay" is the adjective because it describes the mechanic. "Returnal" is another noun, and is the object of the prepositional phrase "of Returnal". The dictionary entry you read is probably misleading -- if you look at the example sentences provided on Merriam Webster, it gives "The company's mechanic shop...", where "mechanic" is describing "shop". It can be used as an adjective, but the noun/adjective difference has nothing to do with the definition difference you guys were discussing between the occupation and gameplay element, which are both examples of the noun version of the word. Thanks for coming to my TED Talk.
Evan Bederman
2021-07-13 19:30:12 +0000 UTCKeep fighting the good fight on the political front! I knew you weren't a squish.
Max Stahl
2021-07-13 17:10:21 +0000 UTCTotally disappointed with the new direction of Assassins Creed. I love just getting these games and having a great 40+ hour single player experience every 2 to 3 years then never touching it again. Who are these maniacs who play these games perpetually? Very disappointed. I don't want some GTA online shit in my single player games.
Luke Silletta
2021-07-13 00:06:57 +0000 UTCJaguar
Paul Andrew
2021-07-12 22:44:00 +0000 UTCOops
BlindRiot
2021-07-12 22:05:55 +0000 UTCWe've not heard this problem, no. People sometimes have spotty audio on various podcast services, but as it's not something everyone is experiencing with the product as a whole or just with a particular episode, it's almost certainly on the user's end, or that of the particular service.
Colin Moriarty
2021-07-12 22:04:56 +0000 UTCLOL.
Colin Moriarty
2021-07-12 22:04:09 +0000 UTCI don't know that he said.
Colin Moriarty
2021-07-12 22:04:01 +0000 UTCThat would be fun, albeit unlikely.
Colin Moriarty
2021-07-12 22:03:54 +0000 UTCYou would.
Colin Moriarty
2021-07-12 22:03:47 +0000 UTCNo need to cross-post.
Colin Moriarty
2021-07-12 22:03:40 +0000 UTCYou'll have to adjust.
Colin Moriarty
2021-07-12 22:03:34 +0000 UTCIt's just not how it's said. Weirdos.
Colin Moriarty
2021-07-12 22:03:27 +0000 UTCThank you... although when people say this, I sometimes wonder if the episodes have been bad recently or something. =D
Colin Moriarty
2021-07-12 22:03:16 +0000 UTCOtherwise, it's literally just Miami.
Colin Moriarty
2021-07-12 22:03:00 +0000 UTCOof.
Colin Moriarty
2021-07-12 22:02:50 +0000 UTCWhy Not Both? =)
Colin Moriarty
2021-07-12 22:02:45 +0000 UTCIt's absurd. LOL.
Colin Moriarty
2021-07-12 22:02:37 +0000 UTCSeems like they've got something for everyone.
Colin Moriarty
2021-07-12 22:02:32 +0000 UTCIt's a shame.
Colin Moriarty
2021-07-12 22:02:24 +0000 UTCI would completely disagree.
Colin Moriarty
2021-07-12 22:02:20 +0000 UTCAnyone else notice issues listening to some recent SS episodes on Spotify? The audio skips around for me a lot starting around the 57:00 mark, and it's totally unlistenable. Haven't had this issue with any other podcast/music on Spotify.
clumpychicken
2021-07-12 21:48:00 +0000 UTCConcerning the discussion on influencers’ trophies/gamer score, it seems everyone gets push back on lighthearted critiques of Chris’ trophy list for exclusives lol he plays all exclusives in two bursts…at launch, and then right before the spoilercast is to air lol
The Eclectic Gamer
2021-07-12 18:48:40 +0000 UTCI forget or I missed it, did Dustin ever give the speeds on which he was playing XCloud?
BlindRiot
2021-07-12 17:30:31 +0000 UTCGreat episode as always! I was thinking it would be amazing if you guys have the Houser brothers on for an episode. Would love to hear what they think of Rockstar (if possible) or what their experience was in writing GTA and Red Dead, and what a GTA would look like if it came out with today’s political climate. Keep it up! Love y’all!
Jeff Caseres
2021-07-12 16:10:20 +0000 UTCPersonally, outside of Ryu, Ken, and Chung-Li, I much prefer the MK cast of characters. Also, I still prefer the DualShock 4 over the DualSense. The only parts of the DualSense I prefer are the bumpers, the sticks, and the rumble. It’s interesting that Chris said he likes that they went the Xbox route by making it bigger when Xbox actually made their controller smaller for the Series edition, which I’d argue is now my favorite game controller of all-time.
NeO JD
2021-07-12 15:43:45 +0000 UTCNot to minimize Dustins XCloud experience, however I’ve gotta say that mine has been quite the opposite. Whether iPhone, iPad or laptop, XCloud is a very nice bonus.
BlindRiot
2021-07-12 12:25:04 +0000 UTCAlso I much prefer the DualShock 4, and always use it when I can for backwards compatible games, or on PC (and even on Xbox with an adapter). I only use the dualsense when I have to, and it also tires out my thumbs more.
Josh Lucas
2021-07-12 04:02:07 +0000 UTCLmao I’ve gotta come to Dustin’s defense and say everyone I know pronounces it jag-wire; I’m from the Chicago suburbs idk if it’s a regional thing. I feel like when I hear sportscasters talk about the Jaguars they pronounce it like that too.
Josh Lucas
2021-07-12 02:42:37 +0000 UTCBest Episode in a LONG LONG time. Good work. Humour, insight, intrigue.
Robbie Agnew
2021-07-11 23:14:20 +0000 UTCDustin is right. If they make GTA 6 in Vice City it needs to have some part set in the 1980s. It would be baffling if they ignored that time period.
Brent
2021-07-11 17:38:10 +0000 UTCHaha I say Jagwire instead of Jaguar.
Derek Alcott
2021-07-11 12:19:44 +0000 UTCNo offense to RoboCop, but I'd much prefer a Judge Dredd game. Had one on Gamecube I really liked.
Carlos Quintanilla
2021-07-11 02:31:49 +0000 UTCDustin is not the first person to say “Jagwire”. Some nfl announcers do it…. Bizarre
Travis B
2021-07-11 02:25:53 +0000 UTCI hadn't purchased Legos either but then they made a Lego Voltron and you bet your sweet bippy I jumped on that. So cool.
TheJoe-senOne
2021-07-10 21:57:50 +0000 UTCStill can’t believe Sony’s just gift-wrapping the handheld market to Switch & now xCloud. And they’ll make every excuse for why they won’t make another one.
Brandon Soto
2021-07-10 19:48:34 +0000 UTCBoth China and Israel can be racist ethnic cleansing authoritarian states. In fact, I would say the Uighur situation and that of the Palestinian people are not too unlike one another.
Robert Graham
2021-07-10 17:33:52 +0000 UTCYeah, it seems like Stadia is lingering because it actually does seem to work.
Colin Moriarty
2021-07-10 16:33:55 +0000 UTCWe are definitely very fortunate to be here.
Colin Moriarty
2021-07-10 16:33:42 +0000 UTCEvery time I Listen to this podcast I realize more and more how lucky I am to be living in the United States of America.
Anthony J Sanchez
2021-07-10 14:20:29 +0000 UTCI wanna say that I agree with Dustin’s take on Xcloud. I dived into it on my phone, I have a really fast WiFi and it ran really bad. It started out ok then just lagged so bad. I also dived into Stadia to compare and it ran extremely well. Stadia’s technology is there, I think their problem is their ecosystem. Game versions are all over the place and the U.I. Is really bad.
Joseph Flores
2021-07-10 09:21:43 +0000 UTCYeah, certainly not my thing.
Colin Moriarty
2021-07-10 03:27:09 +0000 UTCI suppose.
Colin Moriarty
2021-07-10 03:26:58 +0000 UTCChris is really missing out on Tetris in VR
Travis B
2021-07-10 01:35:15 +0000 UTCI concur, it was quite egregious..
Matthew Cooper
2021-07-10 01:12:05 +0000 UTCI was so happy to hear Chris mention that "And you can fight with a Rubber Duck" being totally ruined by their lack of respect for the art and design. The second I heard the voice over said that, I tuned out entirely.
Tom Hawkins
2021-07-10 00:36:59 +0000 UTCIt hurts my soul to hear y’all shitting on Mortal Kombat. To say that street fighter (whose two main characters are guys in karate suits) has better characters is bad enough, but to talk down on mk characters for being too 90s while at the same time ignoring that injustice is just a game full of lame ass super heroes in tights is unacceptable.
Samuel Ashley
2021-07-09 23:31:51 +0000 UTC<3
Colin Moriarty
2021-07-09 21:49:17 +0000 UTCThat's Chris' jam.
Colin Moriarty
2021-07-09 21:49:12 +0000 UTCShe will appear on shows as it makes sense! She plays a lot of games.
Colin Moriarty
2021-07-09 21:49:03 +0000 UTCIt'll be a little while, prolly.
Colin Moriarty
2021-07-09 21:48:52 +0000 UTCDeathloop looks awesome, imo!
Colin Moriarty
2021-07-09 21:48:46 +0000 UTCPeople love Arc! We're just reporting what's happening. =)
Colin Moriarty
2021-07-09 21:48:28 +0000 UTCThat would be cool.
Colin Moriarty
2021-07-09 21:48:18 +0000 UTCLike hell it will be.
Colin Moriarty
2021-07-09 21:48:05 +0000 UTCIt's crazy how this is still a persistent issue (DDoS, that is).
Colin Moriarty
2021-07-09 21:47:59 +0000 UTCAwesome. I haven't gotten the Plat, either. =\
Colin Moriarty
2021-07-09 21:47:34 +0000 UTC=)
Colin Moriarty
2021-07-09 21:47:25 +0000 UTCI see.
Colin Moriarty
2021-07-09 21:47:21 +0000 UTCOh? Nice!
Colin Moriarty
2021-07-09 21:47:16 +0000 UTCAt this rate, it won't be long now.
Colin Moriarty
2021-07-09 21:47:11 +0000 UTCIndeed.
Colin Moriarty
2021-07-09 21:47:03 +0000 UTCThank you.
Colin Moriarty
2021-07-09 21:45:36 +0000 UTCColin it’s time to buy the cow don’t waste the good thing you have going right now
Hose A Contra Razz
2021-07-09 21:27:00 +0000 UTCCan’t tell you how excited I am to hear Splinter Cell: Conviction get any kind of shoutout at all.
Zackery Parkerson
2021-07-09 21:26:01 +0000 UTCWas kinda thinking Micah would get her own show, but hope she enjoys her new role, thanks for all you do!
David Kramme
2021-07-09 21:12:48 +0000 UTCI can't wait for Neatherrealm's next game. I love MK and Injustice so I'm eager to see what's next. I'm also hoping that Capcom nails it at launch with Street Fighter 6.
Real Radec
2021-07-09 20:06:15 +0000 UTCDeathloop looked alright but I'm not really that hyped to play it. Best part was the bantering of the characters. The gameplay kinda looks like it could get a little boring and repetitive. Honestly FIST looked WAY better. Also are we gonna make fun of Microsoft the way we did sony when MLB the show went to gamepass? That game seemed so irrelevant , but people really leaned into a sony studio being on xbox. Are we gonna do the same when a better game from a Microsoft studio is now EXCLUSIVE to ps5 lol. Its actually pretty hilarious Microsoft spends 7.5 billion for bethesda and the first thing that bears any significant fruit is exclusive to sony while xbox still currently has no 1st party exclusives out.
Big titty drinker
2021-07-09 20:05:09 +0000 UTCthe dualsense 3 feels like a happy meal toy its so flimsy haha
Jacob
2021-07-09 19:52:29 +0000 UTCShame to hear about that with Guilty Gear. I will say, it's a really fuckin good videogame though.
Alan Hardee
2021-07-09 19:49:20 +0000 UTCNetherrealm is rumored to be working on a Marvel game.
There’s No I in LLC
2021-07-09 19:29:55 +0000 UTCColin, I know you went back to your PS3 for knockabout a few times; how did you find the Dualshock 3 after half a decade with the Dualshock 4? I think thats a much more uncomfortable controller
Cameron Box
2021-07-09 18:43:23 +0000 UTCMy studio will be called Donkey Punch.
Jeremy Seal
2021-07-09 18:29:13 +0000 UTCTo add clarification/ a correction for the Titanfall Message in Apex event. TF1 was released on steam in an unplayable state because of internal server hacks and DDoS attacks. TF1 is an online only game, so to release it when it is already broken, while knowing it is broken, is horrible. The DDoS attacks are now occuring in TF2 as well and this has been for months. Respawn/EA have the resources to the fix the issue. It is complicated and will be costly, because it is essentially a security vulnerability within the servers but then why are the games still for sale? The hacker/s can target specific players based of their IP address which no external actor should be able to see/do, period. It is ridiculous.
Joseph Cerini
2021-07-09 18:00:46 +0000 UTCThanks for answering! I did go to Symphony of the Night first and loved it (making me realize I'm a metroidvania fan), I just really want that plat. Will keep trying!
Hidari Shotaro
2021-07-09 17:38:07 +0000 UTCGot my Seinfeld Lego question read on Sacred Symbols. That’s one less thing on the bucket list!
MarkGrouch
2021-07-09 17:34:38 +0000 UTCI’ve been saying mommy milkers since I decided I was done with them. Have a good day.
Red Head Redemption
2021-07-09 17:11:19 +0000 UTCLove the lego talk boys. VIP is free.
JT
2021-07-09 16:26:13 +0000 UTCi believe in my heart of hearts that we will one day get an episode that is 5 hours long. that excites me but also terrifies me
Jacob
2021-07-09 16:05:08 +0000 UTCChonk ep for real
Nick La Creta
2021-07-09 16:05:04 +0000 UTCReturnal meets**
Dylan Manuszak
2021-07-09 16:02:37 +0000 UTC
