Constellation, Episode 58 | Gina Carano's Lawsuit, Peer Pressure, Epstein's Fictional Guestlist, Wishing Things Into Existence
Added 2024-02-12 17:09:27 +0000 UTC
It's time for another episode of Constellation, Last Stand Media's conversational podcast. This week, the Brothers Moriarty welcome Defining Duke co-host Lord Cognito and Sacred Symbols co-host Chris Ray Gun to the program. Chris has been sitting on a topic for a while, now, and it's a doozy: Which fictional characters would be on Epstein's vaunted 'list' of clients? Our answers may surprise you. Cog's curious about our ability -- or lack thereof -- to manifest positive outcomes in our lives. Do we think anything is possible, so long as we truly believe? Dagan wants to know in which ways we've succumbed to peer pressure in our lives (with a natural inclination towards old stories from our youth). And finally, Colin brings up Gina Carano's lawsuit against Disney, funded by Elon Musk, that seeks to get her reinstated on The Mandalorian. Naturally, this chat gets political, which is why we buried the topic towards the end. Be aware!
Birdo didn’t kill himself 😂
JohnOfTheDead
2024-02-22 13:24:31 +0000 UTC
Calorie counting is an outdated way of dieting. You need to to look at ingredients Colin, Chris is on point with that.
Tanner Denso
2024-02-20 13:18:29 +0000 UTC
They could literally do it as topic 1, 2, 3 and 4 not to spoil the order
PortugalTheMark
2024-02-19 15:21:40 +0000 UTC
Nailed it. I wish they'd have brought up some more of this stuff, found it strange that no one did. It's pretty obvious reading into it that she wasn't fired simply for being conservative as was suggested.
Madsines
2024-02-15 13:47:32 +0000 UTC
The Carano lawsuit is clearly BS. Look at the timing - it's just Musk trying to stoke the culture war fire in election year to suit his own ends.
Whilst there was a great and fair discussion on this episode around the issue, I think Colin oversimplified it a little with his own argument. She first made the pronouns gag which offended relatively few people. She was pulled up on it though, apologised, deleted and all was fine as she went quiet on social media. Then she came back with the Nazi stuff. And the face mask stuff. And the voter fraud stuff. And the insurrection stuff.
This was a case of an employee who'd been repeatedly warned and educated, refusing to adjust their behaviour in the way required by their employer. Adhering to social media conduct policies is an important part of working for a large corporation, but it seemed like she just didn't care.
Crucially, though, they didn't terminate her contract. It expired. And they chose not to give her a new one. I can't see how the lawsuit stands any chance whatsoever, and therefore can only conclude it's a publicity stunt by Musk.
She claims that others with different opinions have been treated differently, but to equate the subjects she was posting on with actors who simply express their preference for the other side of the political spectrum is disingenuous. Pedro Pascal WAS pulled up on his social media usage, and it's telling that ever since this whole incident he's been a lot less abrasive on there to my mind. So her lawsuit will fail on that level too.
Adrian Chorley (@the_mancalorian)
2024-02-14 18:12:36 +0000 UTC
Any chance we can time stamp constellation? 😂 I know it’s only 4 topics but would be nice 🙏🏼
Joel Holcomb
2024-02-14 03:03:23 +0000 UTC
Great episode guys. Excellent topics. I’ve no idea how you can go from the immature insanity of discussion for Chris’s topic to the insightful and mature discussion for Colin’s topic. But somehow you pulled it off 🤣🤣
Ross Stoddart
2024-02-13 23:25:34 +0000 UTC
This. I think as he grows older it will slowly change. As it did for me.
kiNeMs
2024-02-13 20:54:45 +0000 UTC
I’m pretty sure Dagan grew up with timothy mcveigh
Corey Adams
2024-02-13 19:16:39 +0000 UTC
The Progressive Bully. The Casual Terrorist. The way Dagan says Mario is a creep. What a legendary episode. 😄
NeO JD
2024-02-13 17:14:04 +0000 UTC
lol man Colin drives me crazy with the calorie obsession. Calories in and calories out is an over simplification of the weight loss/weight management process. It’s somewhat true, but the quality of the calories plays a big part too.
Raymond keys
2024-02-13 16:32:16 +0000 UTC
I have no issue with Gina being fired from Disney. An employer has the right to fire you if they believe you are hurting their reputation\business as long as it doesn't discriminate a protected category. Just like I have ZERO issues with Melissa Barrera being fired from the Scream 7 movie for posting what they viewed as antisemitic posts.
If you are going to be one of these types then I prefer you keep hustling and die on your sword like Chris' example of Shane Gillis. That's true winning. They get rid of you and you become so successful that they have no choice, but to bring you back. That's GOAT behavior right there.
Zach
2024-02-13 15:35:20 +0000 UTC
As soon as Trump goes away political discourse will improve. Unfortunately that will be awhile.
JR
2024-02-13 14:56:45 +0000 UTC
“Real harm”. What harm? Not letting them play in women’s sports? Not letting them give kids irreversible drugs?
It’s trans people saying not dating them is transphobia, which is outright nonsense. We can clearly see they aren’t women, and we have no interest in dicks or whatever bullshit bottom surgery is.
Stonehorn
2024-02-13 13:33:46 +0000 UTC
Musk fired people because they were vastly overstaffed, not because they said something he didn’t like. Pretending the two are the same is ridiculous
Stonehorn
2024-02-13 13:25:55 +0000 UTC
I’ve seen trans people arguing that not dating them is transphobia. Jesse Gender has like an hour long video about it. So is not agreeing that trans women should be in women’s sports. The idea that this should be fine is absurd at best.
Stonehorn
2024-02-13 13:24:38 +0000 UTC
Because Hamas was elected by its people and they will not stop killing Israelis until every man woman and child is dead.
Michael Thew
2024-02-13 11:06:51 +0000 UTC
While I agree with Colin’s sentiments, I feel like the scenarios he puts forward with trans people, while I’m sure have happened, isn’t really what most trans people/allies are arguing for. I think there’s real debate on things like bathrooms, but I haven’t really seen anybody call someone a transphobe for not wanting to personally date a trans person. Same thing with the neo-pronouns. That seems fringe even within the trans community.
Jared R
2024-02-13 10:40:42 +0000 UTC
Excellent episode!
Stewy108
2024-02-13 09:02:47 +0000 UTC
That seems like an idiotic thing to do lol why?!
Adam Barnes
2024-02-13 01:23:49 +0000 UTC
Awesome ep, guys.
Colin Moriarty
2024-02-12 23:54:11 +0000 UTC
So Elon Musk firing employees from Twitter and Tesla for nonsense is ok but when Disney does it it’s bad. Would be funny if Disney started bank rolling those lawsuits.
Pretendo
2024-02-12 23:20:26 +0000 UTC
COG was spitting facts this episode . I’m also a CRUSHED niner fan so this helped lmao
A Hind D
2024-02-12 23:17:00 +0000 UTC
It’s perfectly fine for one side to air their laundry but when their argument is easily questioned and disproved that’s when censorship comes in.
Michael Thew
2024-02-12 22:30:37 +0000 UTC
But the left saying it’s ok that children mutilate themselves, as just one of the many examples, unchecked is just fine with you. The double standards some people live in is astonishing
Michael Thew
2024-02-12 22:22:00 +0000 UTC
When a dude thinks he should be in sports and bathrooms with women and girls, and children being preyed upon by social point counting parents by allowing the child to go through life changing medications and surgeries to score those points is the line for me. They have a mental disease and should get mental help, instead of indulging these people fantasies
Michael Thew
2024-02-12 22:20:10 +0000 UTC
Can always count on Chris to downplay the complete batshit insanity of the left and go unchecked on it.
Brandon V
2024-02-12 21:45:13 +0000 UTC
So much of objecting to trans people seems so contradictory and circular to me.
“Live and let live” but, “don’t group yourself with all women without explicitly stating you’re a trans woman”
“I only care about the individual” but, “we need to have proper categories for people.”
“You’re telling me this cis woman and trans woman are the fundamentally the same? I can clearly see that there not!” but, “I need to others to make these categories even more explicit for me so that I…. know which person I should be sexually attracted to?”
It’s just… the relative impact on cis people versus the personal indignance many have around these societal shifts is hugely imbalanced compared to the stigmatization and real harm that trans people tend to experience. I absolutely take Cog’s point that some grace should be given (especially among close relations) about someone’s best intent as well, but mostly it seems to me that most of us cis people need to chill out.
PluuusRyan
2024-02-12 21:39:18 +0000 UTC
Speaking from a trans experience, I think a big fundamental divide and misunderstanding between people is the discrepancy on the definition of "gender" and whether or not you think it's different from "sex." That's not something you're really going to be able to talk to someone about if they see the issue fundamentally differently than you do.
Clara Martin
2024-02-12 21:16:12 +0000 UTC
Gina Carano was fired because she was tweeting shit and causing controversy, and when the heads of Disney asked her to stop she ignored them and continued to tweet controversial tweets.
I’m sorry I do not feel bad for someone who brings heat onto their employer, and their employer asks them to stop and they ignore it and continue doing what they’re doing.
Bogey
2024-02-12 20:46:33 +0000 UTC
To Chris’s point of it being gayer to sleep with buck angel. Well yes that’s true because you would be actively trying to have sex with a woman that has a fake penis. No straight man would have sex with buck angel and no straight man would have sex with Blair white. It does not matter how much you say you are not gay. Banging a dude that cut his penis off and fashioned it into a sex hole makes you entirely gay.
iain mcmanus
2024-02-12 20:46:11 +0000 UTC
She understands why she was let go and that’s why she’s suing. You may not like it but they objectively defamed her and said she was being antisemitic. I completely agree that they can’t be forced to rehire her that sounds crazy. If she wins a compensation for the ruination of her career should do
iain mcmanus
2024-02-12 20:39:54 +0000 UTC
They take the natural fat out of jiffy.
Frederico Garbino
2024-02-12 20:36:27 +0000 UTC
The reality of the entire situation with Gina Carrano is she was a shitty actress on a show made specifically for Children who apparently thought everyone wanted her opinions on matters nobody asked about. She isnt entitled to the Mandalorian job. She never was. She also was given tons of chances to shut up while being a representative of the Disney Brand and she couldnt help herself. The fact she is suing them about it shows how stupid she really is that even years after the fact, she still cannot understand why she was let go.
I also despise cancel culture, but there is cancel culture, and then there is never reading the room and finally being ousted by the group.
Joe B
2024-02-12 20:21:54 +0000 UTC
Curious how Musk and conservatives are silent on Melissa Barrera. Logan Roy is 100% on the fictional Epstein List. It's tough hearing Cog talk about the 49ers knowing the outcome of the Super Bowl.
Brannon H
2024-02-12 20:17:23 +0000 UTC
The “Disney doesn’t play around and she should’ve known she couldn’t speak on politics” falls apart when you look up Pedro Pascal’s tweets at the same time. Not just him either. Other people working under the Disney umbrella had HEINOUS tweets that were ignored. If anything sinks Disney in this lawsuit, it’ll be that. She was targeted for mild opinions while colleagues were allowed to go way harder in the paint.
Beau
2024-02-12 20:15:52 +0000 UTC
I had been wondering what this secret topic of Chris’ was going to be… I am not disappointed at all lmfao fucking comedy. Cog’s laughs are killing me
Alec Rock
2024-02-12 20:14:16 +0000 UTC
Freddy Krueger in the originals was just a child murderer.
It was the remake that came out in the 00s that finally came out and just said he was a pedophile.
Bogey
2024-02-12 20:11:10 +0000 UTC
To this day, someone in the Bronx genuinely believes they saw Mario throw a fireball out a window
GameSimp
2024-02-12 19:39:03 +0000 UTC
Doesn’t this comment just kind of prove his point?
OnkiDonkGinkGonk
2024-02-12 19:32:26 +0000 UTC
Ate steak at 9:30 pm last night and went to sleep around 11:00 pm. Had horrible dream that my loved ones were preventing me from getting to a big meeting (that I’m actually having today) and I was having to scream at them which I never do. Fuck dreams man
Anthony Palerino
2024-02-12 19:22:46 +0000 UTC
colin acting like he’s “live and let live” and then being obsessed about trans people and making up scenarios in his head where someone might call him a bigot. everyone already thinks you are a bigot, let it go
Ryan
2024-02-12 19:12:38 +0000 UTC
Jabba is the Epstein of Star Wars
Noah Friscopp
2024-02-12 19:08:16 +0000 UTC
Should be some interesting discussions about these topics!
Kelzilla
2024-02-12 17:31:28 +0000 UTC
What a fantastic assortment of topics. Looking forward to this!
Gaelan K
2024-02-12 17:30:28 +0000 UTC
Is this the topic Chris almost used last time? Looking forward to it!
Joey B
2024-02-12 17:12:56 +0000 UTC