Constellation, Episode 78 | The Biden vs. Trump 2024 Presidential Debate: Reflections and More
Added 2024-07-01 16:00:22 +0000 UTCWelcome to a special, one-topic-driven episode of Constellation, Last Stand Media's conversational podcast. This week, I (Colin) am joined by Punching Up co-host Gene Park, Sacred Symbols co-host Chris Ray Gun, and storied game designer David Jaffe, and we gather for a some-four-hour chat all about the first of two scheduled presidential debates for the 2024 election cycle between Joe Biden and Donald Trump. This is obviously an exclusively, deeply political conversation, so be warned before you hit play. We touch on just about everything imaginable: The debate itself, the fallout thereafter, who we think will ultimately win, if we believe that Biden specifically will even ultimately be one of the nominees, and -- of course -- we get deep into the weeds on all of the important issues they spoke about during the debate, and more. Again, be warned: If you don't like or care about politics, or if you get upset when you hear serious, adult opinions you don't agree with, don't listen or watch. For those with open minds and a curiosity for a wide variety of opinions, however, please enjoy.
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For gods sakes I hope Biden doesn’t win. I’m sick of the woke shit and always putting the blame on Trump and republicans. Biden should be a convicted felon as well but the court deemed him “unfit to be put on trial” but sane to run a country. I used to vote democrat but this culture bullshit and high prices drives me insane. The only way Trump loses is if they fix the election and allow illegals to vote and dead people to vote again. Oh and if they do the votes still coming in at 3 am again.
Robbie Cooper
2024-07-16 01:30:41 +0000 UTCMan was this talk fantastic. Long live LSM. So engaging. And LOVED the pairing of personalities moriarty Raygun 2024!!!
Nicholas Santaro
2024-07-12 21:24:07 +0000 UTCHow can you say with a straight face that Trump is the crook smh
Jerry Huerta
2024-07-11 21:52:20 +0000 UTCI love how Chris comes down on Boomers yet Biden is so fuckin’ old he’s not even a boomer. 😂
Xstar25
2024-07-10 19:57:36 +0000 UTCAlways good to her Jaffe
Glen Yelenovic
2024-07-10 14:35:58 +0000 UTCPeople should look up schedule f. Some scary ass shit
Wayde
2024-07-10 08:56:31 +0000 UTCLook up schedule f and come back Trump wants yes men even in protected non political positions. Places like the FDA where he can do as he pleases with banning of plan b or other pills that prevent pregnancy or help with abortions/miscarriages. Doing that would circumvent the states right to decide which was the whole point why roe v wade was struck down That's extremely dangerous
Wayde
2024-07-10 08:54:10 +0000 UTCIn the scope of American history, it was a deeply shameful day, the magnitude of which will only grow as time moves on. For those of us living in contemporary times, it's just exhibit 10,572 of how stupid our politics have become.
Timothy Monnig
2024-07-10 08:02:40 +0000 UTCI hate these episodes, frankly, but they are like a car crash that I can't look away from. Chris and Gene are indifferent or under-informed to a degree that basically takes them out of the conversation. Jaffe hues tightly to longstanding liberal fears and talking points, but doesn't have the scope to press or defend them outside of the bubble, because he doesn't understand what motivates conservatives. Colin suffers similarly, yoked to the conventional wisdom of Tucker and a weird melange of the Editors podcast, but he's the most confidently informed, so he can steamroll everyone, because no one has the ability or interest to refute him (but unlike Jaffe, helped by the fact that he's spent so much of his life as conservative amongst liberals). These aren't new talking points to my ears either. As a result, a bunch of generally stupid things get said in earnest, but go unchecked. I don't know. The whole conversation made me want to walk in and flip the proverbial table. Judging by the comments, however, it seems like the audience got what it wanted which was Colin owning a lib.
Timothy Monnig
2024-07-10 07:50:38 +0000 UTC3:21:42 wow Jaffe, extreme liberal thinking. I can't believe the guy who made my favorite series GOW, filled with violence and sex and a good story is so Democrat apologist. May I say brainwashed! I'm sorry I don't mean to come off as rude but wow the things you said I can't believe. Still love you, don't hate you and all the crew it was a great discussion. Have a great day boys.
BakerShop
2024-07-10 05:42:37 +0000 UTCVoting doesn't matter when your government is run by unelected bureaucrats and big money oligarchs. If Trump wins things will nominally change and likely slow down Americas demise, if Biden wins, things will stay the same which means things will continue to get worse. Progressives in 2024 are more heavily aligned with the establishment, aka deep state bureaucrats. Conservatives had that same label back when GWB was President in the early 2000s. 99% of Jaffe's opinions are corporate establishment narratives. Therefore his opinions are all the same as what the CIA and other three letter agencies want you to believe. It's all to divide Americans against one another so the oligarchs and powerful assholes can change America to benefit their selfish interests. Again, voting really does not matter as both parties want to fuck you in their own way.
Alex
2024-07-09 20:05:28 +0000 UTCModern presidents have all been guilty of war crimes and have been immune during and after their presidency. Obama killed an American.
ludacritz
2024-07-09 18:25:48 +0000 UTCJaffe is the poster child for twitter politics. “I feel this way!” “Why do you feel that way?” “Ummmmmm…… did you know Trump is a felon?”
WoodyBlock
2024-07-09 18:22:58 +0000 UTCJaffe, I hope you wake up one day
Ahlickaloo
2024-07-09 16:05:21 +0000 UTCI love this episode. It is great to hear people with different opinions have a real conversation about them and still be friends. Hear each other’s point. Understand where they are coming from. You don’t have to agree with them on everything or anything.
Glen Yelenovic
2024-07-09 15:31:50 +0000 UTCJaffe getting absolutely outclassed by Colin in his political understanding is what made this podcast so good. Jaffe knows what he's supposed to support but doesn't know why. When any pushback is given, he devolves into name calling and character hits on Trump by calling him a rapist and pedophile.
Kyle Hall
2024-07-09 15:03:54 +0000 UTCWho had “Mary Poppins Pussy” on Jaffe BINGO? 🤣
Glen Yelenovic
2024-07-09 15:00:27 +0000 UTCConstellation not showing up in rss feeds lately for anyone else as well?
John King
2024-07-09 12:17:56 +0000 UTCKeep telling people an 80 year old famous person ran for president because he has a history as a pedophile and racist, if you yell loud enough it definitely makes sense. It is not like he walked away immensely more wealthy like every other POS politician. I can personally say I have zero issues with any of his take on major issues and I can say the same in 2020. If you want to speculate he is some sort of dictator hiding behind rational takes so he can rule the world you are a moron. Maybe if I am lucky I will be dead before globalism leads to WW3.
Lawson72
2024-07-09 07:04:07 +0000 UTCMaybe he's projecting?
Nicholai
2024-07-09 05:31:15 +0000 UTCThe Democratic Party didn’t back sanders in 2016 because they do not want to hand the party over to the socialist part of their party. They can say whatever but they know it’s better for swing votes to have a candidate as moderate as possible. They know they already have the far left voters
Dave Alvarez
2024-07-09 05:27:16 +0000 UTCIt is WILD how out of touch Jaffe is. Colin, Chris and Gene are voicing these prescient concerns about American society and Jaffe's biggest concern is Christian nationalism? This guy needs to touch grass and talk to someone outside his bubble.
Buster Crabcakes
2024-07-08 18:31:54 +0000 UTCI think it’s cuz Jaffe is the only LSM member to stand up to Colin. And Colin knows it. He has admitted “there’s something about Jaffe that scares me a little”. No other member says much after one of Colin’s rants. Jaffe will straight up interrupt them. Colin admires Jaffe and I’m pretty sure he wants him on these so they can debate more than other members are willing to.
SneakerHead24
2024-07-08 05:27:46 +0000 UTCYeah, it’s a corporate greed thing. These companies all want us to pay for the losses they had during a global pandemic and one by one they all increased the prices of their goods and we are the ones getting screwed while the dickhead CEOs still get their six figure bonuses cuz they show growth to their shareholders by screwing us.
SneakerHead24
2024-07-08 05:14:49 +0000 UTCGreat episode guys
Eric
2024-07-07 13:04:35 +0000 UTCSurely you understand that he wasn't the one paying them 4 bucks an hour right? The cost more than likely would have the been same with an all American crew making whatever is deemed acceptable. The difference is the amount of money owner of said company makes. His point is valid
DixieNormous
2024-07-07 00:51:09 +0000 UTC“These illegal immigrants should be kicked out of the country. People should pay Americans fairly to do these jobs.” “The entire crew working on my pool were all immigrants. None of them were from here.” I guess now that you got the pool built on the cheap it’s cool to throw the guys who worked on it out of the country. Hmmmmmmmm verrrrry interesting. If you TRULY believed what you’re saying about the illegal immigration, paying people fairly for the work they do and American jobs, it seems like the thing to have done at the time was fire your pool company. But it wasn’t convenient for you to do that since there weren’t so many hard working Americans installing pools in Virginia when you wanted one 🤔🤔🤔
SneakerHead24
2024-07-06 22:28:28 +0000 UTCAnother conservative voice would have been perfect…. Dave Rubin is a friend of Colin and would be a good guest to lay down some facts.
MacGyver44
2024-07-06 21:15:53 +0000 UTCJaffe is unbearable.
Chris Van Buren
2024-07-06 13:02:18 +0000 UTCFact.
Chris Van Buren
2024-07-06 12:59:50 +0000 UTCYep! And it’s only going to continue :)
Aaron
2024-07-06 04:52:52 +0000 UTCThat’s about right for percentage of conservatives.
Aaron
2024-07-06 04:49:31 +0000 UTCLook for Roy Cooper to replace Biden
Clint
2024-07-06 02:56:06 +0000 UTCBut it's always worse.
Danio
2024-07-05 20:37:03 +0000 UTCJaffe cracks me up lol. But glad to hear his…interesting opinions. Colin’s vote very important in Virginia! Love you all 💙
Spencer B
2024-07-05 19:13:25 +0000 UTCevery election ask yourself, has life gotten better or worse with the current government.
Mr Worry
2024-07-05 00:43:08 +0000 UTCStates are fucked. Yall are cooked lol
Stephen Crane
2024-07-04 17:39:26 +0000 UTCIf Joe Biden murdered a trans person in front of Jaffe. I’m convinced he would find an excuse for him
Remington Wilson
2024-07-04 15:16:49 +0000 UTCTrump Derangement Syndrome is a real thing. He seriously suffers from it.
Yiorgos
2024-07-04 01:42:43 +0000 UTCOutside of him stepping down, it’s not going to happen. He was already selected through the primary process. If the convention fails to select him it would be deeply undemocratic. The shame is that the party knew for years how declined he is and went with him anyway, gaslighting the rest of us with claims of “cheap fakes”. Now the chickens have come home to roost
Timothy Martin
2024-07-04 01:04:41 +0000 UTCJaffe was fucking GROSS during this episode. He gives his money to these people and i wont EVER buy another game he is associated with…. I wont contribute to my family being eroded out of our home
Hunter Flaherty
2024-07-04 00:55:19 +0000 UTCJust listened to this episode. Huge fan of the political episodes. However, we need another conservative to pair up with Colin. Bring in a guest if possible. Being devoutly conservative, I feel it’s always Colin vs. the rest of the panel.
Anthony A.
2024-07-03 23:34:17 +0000 UTCGood conversation gents. I appreciate the space each of you give to each other for sharing different perspectives. I’m center left I would say and definitely not voting for trump, but Biden has got to go as the candidate. That performance was seriously concerning.
Will
2024-07-03 22:13:13 +0000 UTCThe problem is that they had the chance to replace him and missed it. Replacing him now would be politically a bigger disaster to the party than him running and losing.
Timothy Martin
2024-07-03 20:50:47 +0000 UTCJaffe saying what will stop Trump from having a third term or just do what he wants and not leave…ummm the 22nd amendment?
Matt Llewellyn
2024-07-03 16:37:33 +0000 UTCIt's insanely troubling that Biden won't drop out when it's clear to everyone he isn't all there. Trump isn't all there either but at least he's better at pretending. What a shitshow, I wish the Dems had some balls and got a real candidate in and had this guy step down.
Joseph Abraham
2024-07-03 16:02:19 +0000 UTCWildly disagree with Chris’s take on Southerners that are affected by abortion laws, 10 commandments etc just needing to “get the hell out of there” as if everyone can just pick up their families and livelihood and move to New York where he was lucky enough to be born…
Henry Morgan
2024-07-03 15:43:37 +0000 UTCJust a heads up Mr.Ray Gun but in several states felons can vote thank you
Joshua Jones
2024-07-03 14:11:48 +0000 UTCJaffe said at least eight times during this podcast that Trump is going off to rape 12-year-old kids. Dude seriously stop already with this Trump derangement syndrome bullshit.
NecrumOddBoy
2024-07-03 13:48:07 +0000 UTCI consider myself mildly conservative but not a fan of either option. Biden lost my vote when he claimed that he was the only president this century to not have soldiers dying around the globe. He is the commander in chief and somehow forgot about abbey gate and the attack in Jordan. You sent them abroad. They deserve better than to be forgotten by their commander for political gains
Timothy Martin
2024-07-03 13:11:08 +0000 UTCOR the very act of making "voting day" a federal holiday would, over time, make people more informed. It's ridiclous that it isn't already. All for civic test, lets also make politicians take them as well.
Joseph Cerini
2024-07-03 12:44:45 +0000 UTCGood Converstation. Still voting for Joe for the reason Chris said. Under Trump and due to his parties actions, Women lost rights. This arguement of caring about NOW, NOW, NOW is what got us into this situation. We plan for the future, and future generations. Also this downplaying on how COVID effected everything needs to stop. We hadn't seen this type of event in 100 years. Even with the data of the past, mistakes where made everywhere accross the globe, but here in the U.S., because of political reasons. That should be enough for anyone but if you need more, we have the breaking down of Schedule F governemnt employees, disrecpect for scientific advisors, global warming and climate issues, etc. Trump is a vote to go backwards, and Biden is vote to keep the current status quo. Both candidates suck, both situations are not ideal but this is what we got.
Joseph Cerini
2024-07-03 12:17:36 +0000 UTCI wasn’t going to vote for Joe before the debate, certainly not voting for him after the debate.
Dana Anderson
2024-07-03 03:51:06 +0000 UTCLove the political Constellations. Keep em coming!
John
2024-07-03 03:14:11 +0000 UTCJan 6th was a weird day we can all admit that. Was it that big of a deal? In my opinion, no it wasn’t. It’s just the result you get in this polarized internet crazed time.
Tanner Denso
2024-07-03 01:58:35 +0000 UTCNot all blue collar workers are union bud.
Tanner Denso
2024-07-03 01:38:32 +0000 UTCImagine being a democrat since 2008 and thinking that you’re part of some kind of resistance. We have every single piece of media including the news outlets, movies, tv shows, video games, other forms of art, literally anything that is popular, all leaning to the left.
Tanner Denso
2024-07-03 00:47:41 +0000 UTCDid you bother to do any research before posting this? https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/2024/02/11/trump-biden-immigration-border-compared/ This compares illegal border crossings under both administrations. Covid aside, it is massively greater by orders of magnitude under Biden. Perhaps the one with the massively flawed arguments is you.
Timothy Martin
2024-07-03 00:46:21 +0000 UTCLots of Colins arguments are massively flawed. Trump had less immigrants because of covid. Covid is the cause of inflation not biden or trump. When everyone has money to spend due to covid relief funds that means the cost of goods goes up. For a history major it's wild to hear Colins take on some things.
Wayde
2024-07-03 00:36:06 +0000 UTCI think most agree regardless of who is elected we have 2 bad choices and I fear for our country
Wayde
2024-07-02 23:58:14 +0000 UTCGreat podcast, nice to hear people not talk in an echo chamber
Gabriel SG
2024-07-02 22:37:21 +0000 UTCThe prevention of an establishment of a state religion and state persecution based on a practiced religion are fundamental tenets of the US republican system. the””Term “separation of church and state” as it is widely understood now most certainly is not.
Timothy Martin
2024-07-02 21:16:48 +0000 UTCAs far as I can tell Patreon is mainly right wing, Youtube is mixed and their Reddit is mainly left wing
Space Tortoise
2024-07-02 21:14:17 +0000 UTCReading the comments here compared to youtube is super fascinating. It looks like Patrons tend to be more right-wing than YouTube viewers and I think that's really interesting.
Definitely Stephanie
2024-07-02 21:13:11 +0000 UTCI don't think he's talking about standard Christians though. He's specifically talking about Christian Nationalism, not the religion of Christianity.
Definitely Stephanie
2024-07-02 21:11:55 +0000 UTCColin makes an argument a little ways into the pod (with regards to the 10 commandments in schools) that he doesn't care about the separation of church and state, a founding principle of the US, because 'my groceries cost too damn much'. You'd laugh if it wasn't so tragic and typical of American political discourse.
Space Tortoise
2024-07-02 21:08:41 +0000 UTCMaking “voting day” a federal holiday would be a mistake, unless it is also coupled with a basic civics competency test. Low information/low engagement voting is one of the main destructive factors in government today. We actually need less voting, but votes from people informed on basic things… like how the government works.
Timothy Martin
2024-07-02 21:00:33 +0000 UTCthis is a fantastic episode, so many great points from Colin
Trevor Myers
2024-07-02 20:41:55 +0000 UTCWell put comment, just to add some reinforcement. Modern China has never conducted an amphibious assault and is sorely lacking in capability in general. UN peacekeeping operations with Chinese troops are illuminating to your average grunts discipline. Not saying the CCP wouldn't try and take Taiwan. Authoritarian states are not known for their logical reasoning. But man, it would be an incredibly bloody affair.
Lovat
2024-07-02 20:17:38 +0000 UTCColin, what do you think it looks like when a communist country controls 90% of the world’s semiconductors? To say Taiwan has nothing to with us is wild.
Heezy
2024-07-02 19:27:26 +0000 UTCI agree, I love Jaffee but his ultra leftism can get a bit tiring. He is clearly biased (we all are, I get it) and the “Trump lies, Biden wins on substance” stance is ridiculous…. But his overall approach was pretty even keeled.
Timothy Martin
2024-07-02 18:59:18 +0000 UTCturbonormie
Theotokos Respecter
2024-07-02 18:47:10 +0000 UTCJaffe been staying on Twitter to long
Whitewinwolf
2024-07-02 18:47:05 +0000 UTCI'll give Jaffee credit, much like Trump in the debate he wasn't as annoying as he's been in the past when it's a political topic. The last one was a fucking disaster. You guys all made good points and had a mostly respectful conversation.
KItty Crew
2024-07-02 18:44:36 +0000 UTCJaffe does this on everything he’s on. It’s just worse on serious issues because he knee caps poignant statements and cuts off thoughts from the others for crap that doesn’t contribute to the conversation. He’s a conversational bulldozer with no self discipline
Matt Llewellyn
2024-07-02 18:16:26 +0000 UTCWish for this as well, but I doubt it would ever happen. More likely, (I still doubt it though) would be Colin going on their platforms for a political chat, but I just don’t know if he’d be into that.
PluuusRyan
2024-07-02 17:22:17 +0000 UTCI mean, I understand his point. Trump is a very known quantity, not to mention the widely documented Project 2025. It’s not being closed-minded to have the opinion that voting against those basically no matter what is his decision.
PluuusRyan
2024-07-02 17:20:06 +0000 UTC"I am susceptible to drinking the Kool-Aid even though I am aware of the Kool-Aid." Jaffe is self aware enough to know the corporate media propaganda is propaganda but can't stop deluding himself with it
Zac
2024-07-02 17:10:27 +0000 UTCTo play out the Taiwan crisis, it wouldn't be a marines landing on the beach situation. It would be primarily a Naval and airforce limited engagement. China would have to overcome the significant disadvantage of the sea of Taiwan. Invading Taiwan would make D-Day look like a grade school soccer game that hands out participation trophies. And any sort of build up would be noticed by months. China's big weakness if the US got involved is their lack of natural resources and food supplies. They have pretty much no oil. And the moment a Taiwan invasion would happen the USN would not hesitate a second to show the world how well Iranian and Russian oil tankers in route to China burn. That is sorta the pro and danger with Taiwan. A US & China conflict over Taiwan would likely be a limited war. However, since it would be a limited war, the chances of it happening are significantly higher.
NinjaDC
2024-07-02 16:16:12 +0000 UTCNever a surprise that the most written in pages on LSM are always the Sacred write ins and the post political Stellys. Wish you guys would show up to the other sections. 😅
NeO JD
2024-07-02 16:00:13 +0000 UTCGreat conversation , I live in Scotland so doesn’t mean a lot to me but loved it either way ! Top work boys I’ve grown to enjoy jaffe like a fine wine . Dunno where the hate comes from here is funny and is open to other peoples opinions .
Sir Poops McGuffin
2024-07-02 15:47:33 +0000 UTCI love Jaffe, he’s like the court jester
BadHairDayCaveman
2024-07-02 15:14:59 +0000 UTCI think we will see a very low voter turnout, Trump will win in a landslide. IMO, we have all been sold out by the RNC & the DNC.
BadHairDayCaveman
2024-07-02 15:07:33 +0000 UTCI don’t mean this as any sort of a personal slight, but I wish Jaffe wasn’t on this episode. The way he cuts people off makes it difficult to parse their points and is frankly disrespectful. The way he blurts out nonsense like “What if we ran Bill Maher or Taylor Swift?” doesn’t make for better discussion and only serves to expose his own ignorance. I like Jaffe on more lighthearted conversations, I think he’s very personable and funny, but when he is out of his depth he overextends himself and ends up dragging the whole conversation down with him.
Matt H
2024-07-02 14:51:45 +0000 UTC“The good people on both sides” was fact checked as false by snopes. Just a point when that gets thrown around as fact
DeucesBruh
2024-07-02 14:10:17 +0000 UTCJaffe is not the person for a political discussion unless you just need your MSNBC level of shilled nonsense. His inability to not fall on the sword of leftism is prevalent in everything he says.
NecrumOddBoy
2024-07-02 14:06:25 +0000 UTCLove these eps
Repede
2024-07-02 14:01:07 +0000 UTCThe smallest portion of the military budget is the actual personnel. Most troops qualify for fucking food stamps. 85% of the spending is equipment and contracts. It's kinda hard listening to this, and realizing nobody talking on this panel can't name policies for either one of these guys. And hearing Colin say the Republican party is now blue collar is absolutely wild. They are fake blue collar supporters. Trump rallied against the UAW when they were negotiating contracts. Guys.... Talk about their actual policies and nit the talking points of the pundits you're listening to.
Jacob Lesperance
2024-07-02 13:25:22 +0000 UTCJaffe saying he is very open minded while also saying he is going to vote for a corpse no matter what is funny to me
Brian
2024-07-02 13:16:47 +0000 UTCGreat episode hope we get more political talks with this permutation
Lemon Pepper
2024-07-02 12:53:27 +0000 UTCNeither ine of those candidates talk about any substance. They both lie through their teeth, and are equally dog shit candidates. Also. Inflation biggest factor os corporate price couging. Which neither candidate talks about.
Jacob Lesperance
2024-07-02 12:12:05 +0000 UTCLol he doesn’t see how trumps doing the Christian rights bidding either. Colin’s head is in the sand, but at this point you have to wonder if he’s doing it on purpose. All this “old guy talk slow” rhetoric is tiring considering what’s at stake. Not like the other guys talks very well either. Voting for Biden is clearly voting for the administration, the one that’s attempting to uphold democracy. Colin’s agenda is pretty clear. My prediction is next Colin is going to say “ I think project 2025 is being overblown” haha
Caleb Peacock
2024-07-02 10:55:48 +0000 UTCI refrain from commenting disparagingly, but Jaffe appears devoid of substantive contributions to the discourse. His comprehension appears confined to a narrow sphere, lacking in original insights.
Nikky
2024-07-02 10:49:19 +0000 UTC“What if they ran Bill Maher, I’m serious” instantly followed by “That would be terrible” and “That would be the worst decision” was hilarious.
Reon Williams
2024-07-02 09:51:12 +0000 UTCI am here, once again, begging you to get someone who can really put up a defense for your next political episode. Someone like Kyle Kulinski or Vaush (jokes inbound, I know).
Colin Moriarty
2024-07-02 09:41:36 +0000 UTCAnother political episode and even more unabashedly american naivete to show for it. Colin going on and on about "We shouldn't be giving weapons to Ukraine! We need to worry about the border!" as if the US needs to send Patriot Air Defense and 155mm Artillery to the US/Mexico border to secure. I have no clue how nobody even suggested the very real possibility that the US can be both. "We can be the arsenal of democracy but not like that! Don't kill the russians!" Is insane to me. These are weapons that are meant to destroy materiel and combatants and he's surprised when they are used for just that which unfortunately to him does entail killing russians. I don't even know why anyone would want to buy american weapons if there's this mile long list of Dos & Don'ts of how and where to use them, you don't think the Taiwanese would use American weapons to strike the chinese mainland in the event of an invasion? Not even to start talking about "We shouldn't be enemies with the Russians or the Chinese" not understanding that they've chosen to be our adversaries. The russians and the chinese don't want to be friends they want clear hemispherical spheres of influence that work for them and in doing so the ability to undermine the sovereignty of others in their neck of the woods. Hell I'd be interested to see what Colin would think when Venezuela attacks Guyana and the Russians use that fleet in Cuba to deter others from intervening on the side of Guyana, wouldn't that be taking the Monroe doctrine and wiping your ass with it? One positive thing I can say is that out of all of them Gene has the most down to earth and grounded outlook on everything that while cynical is at least rooted in something real instead of outrageous ideals that will eventually bite everyone in the ass like with Colin and Jaffe.
Tomthechosen1
2024-07-02 09:22:53 +0000 UTCI’m sure that the crime and drug use that comes with them aren’t positive improvements for the lives of people living nearby.
Adam Barnes
2024-07-02 08:04:04 +0000 UTC"I feel like this idea that democracy is under siege is bullshit'' - Colin A few hours after uploading this podcast the supreme court decides the president has absolute immunity for ''official acts'' (whatever that means) Maybe American democracy is not under threat, but it's definitely fraying at the seams. Still an amazing episode though, truly enjoyed every minute of it!
Dennis
2024-07-02 08:00:07 +0000 UTCYou guys keep saying that nobody wants any of these candidates, yet tens of millions of people want trump, and tens of millions are voting against him. Nobody is voting FOR Joe Biden. You're underestimating the Trump crowd just like the media did in 2016, and look how that turned out.
ajwhite
2024-07-02 07:04:55 +0000 UTCBiden is a paedophile. Their party supports mutilating children and they are directly supporting a genocide in Gaza. But sure, whatever helps you sleep at night.
Yalingo
2024-07-02 06:40:59 +0000 UTCI think Colin's wrong about inflation. It's bad here in the UK too and in most of Europe. I don't think it's a Biden thing or here a Conservative government thing really
Murderer Kevin
2024-07-02 06:00:42 +0000 UTCI seek to be educated by someone. Outside of them being an eyesore, how have “tent cities” negatively impacted your life?
Zackery Parkerson
2024-07-02 05:42:09 +0000 UTCGents, just a comment on your occupation conversation, specifically from the perspective of a Marine who was stationed on Okinawa. As to why we are there: we pretty much neutered Japan’s imperial army after WWII. We only allowed them to establish a “Self Defense Force”, which is only to be used in defense of Japan and not for offensive purposes (for obvious reasons). However, this defense force is a fraction of the size it would need to be in order to actually defend their homeland in the event of an attack, especially with current adversaries (looking at you China). So this is a long about way of saying: the government wants and needs us there in order to augment their forces at their current manpower. The actual citizens don’t want us there at all, but they don’t understand if we left, China could swoop in and take them with little to no resistance. Also, if we weren’t in Japan, Taiwan would be taken over by China the minute we left. We are a crucial deterrent in that area, and if we weren’t there, Eastern Asia would look a lot different. Not saying it’s right at all, but just to provide some background and mindset after having worked with the Japanese Ground Self Defense force. Also my daughter was born on a base in Okinawa and she did not get dual citizenship; however I’m sure it may be different in other countries.
Nathan Johnson
2024-07-02 05:36:59 +0000 UTCDemocrats tend to blame others of the things they're guilty of
ajwhite
2024-07-02 04:52:01 +0000 UTCTo the question of citizenship after birth on American bases abroad: It depends on the country. I was born in Germany in such a manner; Germany is not on board for dual citizenship for the offspring of American armed services.
Saint947
2024-07-02 03:53:01 +0000 UTCBiden got my vote the first time and will again this election. No way I can morally vote for Trump with the shit he wants to take away/control and the way he speaks to and about people. Common decency still matters. Trump will never get my support as long as I'm in my right mind
Michael Hedrick
2024-07-02 02:53:38 +0000 UTCThe truth is neither Biden or Trump or their respective parties give a fuck about the common folk. They’ll both perpetuate the status quo and continue to cater to corporations. RFK Jr. seems to be the only one who actually gives a shit to make a real change for this country.
Adam Martinez
2024-07-02 02:32:46 +0000 UTCSame! Democrats and Republicans don’t give a shit about anything but power and greed. RFK Jr. seems to actually give a fuck about the common folk.
Adam Martinez
2024-07-02 02:29:29 +0000 UTCJaffe on Trump’s energy ‘when you fuck 12 year olds that’s how you get your energy’. Dude is so obnoxious, he constantly talks over people, constantly derides republicans by accusing their candidate of being a pedophile and then asks ‘how did we get to where we are today?’ My guy, YOU are the reason we are here.
Ryan Taylor
2024-07-02 02:25:51 +0000 UTCReally enjoying the episode so far, one thing that does concern me, is the segment of the show where Jaffe was talking about the Christian right. Saying that Christians want to usher in a dystopian handmaid’s tale type of government and culture. It’s a really gross mischaracterization of Christians. It’s similar to saying every Muslim is a terrorist. That being said I really enjoyed hearing everyone’s different opinions while keeping the show civil. Cheers to all four of you gentlemen on the podcast👍
Peter Raber
2024-07-02 02:24:25 +0000 UTCDidn't Trump create billions and billions of extra dollars by giving stimmies to people who didn't need it? Oh, it's Biden's fault because he's Democratic? Makes sense to me!
Suce Mes Orteils
2024-07-02 00:53:32 +0000 UTCI enjoy listening to Colin, but he really misses the mark when comes to making conclusions about causations and correlations with respect to the economy. Biden had a minor impact on the overall inflation issue in America let alone worldwide where inflation is worse than what America is experiencing.
Canuck in the buff
2024-07-02 00:49:16 +0000 UTCwhat?
Eric the human
2024-07-02 00:37:11 +0000 UTCNo wars under Trump, immigration was under control as his policies were working. The Biden has brought back Trumps policy and they have re instituted the border wall. Wake up bro
Yiorgos
2024-07-02 00:31:03 +0000 UTCWell there's RFK Jr and besides the b.s you hear from the media, he's got some good ideas and has taken on Big Pharma numerous times. Unfortunately his own party is corrupt and throws out a zombie in Biden instead of RFK Jr. P.s. I recently watched an episode on John Jr plane crash and unfortunately it was self inflicted. He wasn't trained to fly with instrument guidance and needed the horizon. That night, he went over the Atlantic and due to the weather suffered from spacial awareness he lost the ability to know where he was flying. That lead to his, his wife's and her sisters untimely deaths. Very sad
Yiorgos
2024-07-02 00:26:04 +0000 UTCI don’t understand how Jaffe talks so much about trumps lies but ignores Biden’s. Dude still repeats the very fine people lie, he said no troops died under his watch(despite losing 13 due to his bad leadership). It’s just hard to take him seriously when he talks about people not being engaged or informed when he clearly just watches MSM as his “engagement”
Dudley
2024-07-02 00:15:36 +0000 UTCAs an outsider who is definitely not as educated as you, I look at this country and question how the fuck people would ever consider someone who can't wipe their arse as the Proud and Strong leader of the Western world. it's a joke. The USA needs its political system torn apart and cleaned from within. Including its educations system, media system, health care system and military industry. It's all rife with corruption and bullshit that has spread and infected the entire globe. Trump is the only man on the planet at this time with the balls to dare rip it apart. Biden forgot where he was 5 minutes ago, and you all think that is the "Better Op0tion". You people are deluded.
kiNeMs
2024-07-02 00:07:08 +0000 UTCTeam Guy(n): someone who can’t take the L and admit they were wrong but instead groups both contestants together in criticism to avoid giving opposition any positive acknowledgment whatsoever. Jaffe, Ray Gun and Gene are textbook team guys.
CUMSoftware
2024-07-01 23:53:01 +0000 UTCAfter todays SCOTUS ruling, better make this election count Otherwise the US had a good run
Liamburrito
2024-07-01 23:42:35 +0000 UTCCitizens United has been an unmitigated disaster for our politics, that’s for damn sure.
Davey Cakes
2024-07-01 23:39:51 +0000 UTCI adore these “let’s educate jaffe” episodes. It’s so great!
Christopher
2024-07-01 23:37:50 +0000 UTCHoo boy… Only here for the comments. *scooches up a chair*
Brett Altmiller
2024-07-01 23:34:17 +0000 UTCI don't agree politically with Jaffe on every subject, but I can respect his opinions and thoughts I don't know if it makes any sense, but he doesn't feel "fake" like some other people in the gaming industry who share their political thoughts It feels like there's some substance to what he believes
Billyb
2024-07-01 23:24:59 +0000 UTCRespect for correcting yourself. Unfortunately Biden will never stop pushing this disgusting race baiting lie. You did great this episode overall
iain mcmanus
2024-07-01 23:18:10 +0000 UTCHonestly don’t mind Jaffy but why does he have to be on every political topic for like the past 10 months I’d like to at least get to hear what the show would sound like without him, although I disagree with a lot of his beliefs that’s not why I’d like to have a politics episode with him it’s that he can be overbearing and hijack the show. I’d ideally love to have a show with Gene, Colin, Chris and Brad/Lockmort about politics before the end of this election cycle. I still thought this was an awesome episode and think lock would make a good guest because of the recent conversation Colin and Lock had about eu politics but keep of the great shows guys! Sorry Jaffy you’re still great.
Krusher99
2024-07-01 23:15:18 +0000 UTCI don’t think either belong in a children’s classroom but if push comes to shove the 10 commandments are a lot less dangerous to young minds
DeadMail
2024-07-01 23:07:20 +0000 UTCJaffe is so Reddit it’s crazy!!
Caz
2024-07-01 23:03:42 +0000 UTCHe acknowledged the 2014 coup, I thought?
Caz
2024-07-01 23:02:53 +0000 UTCI dont see an issue with the 10 commandments being in the classroom if it's okay for schools to shove transgender ideology down children's throats. There might not be a god being worshipped but it's just another religion.
I like your Chris, I do not like your Chris-chans
2024-07-01 23:02:04 +0000 UTCPlease let others on the panel finish sentences/thoughts. The constant interruptions are very jarring and lead to a lot being lost. I often want to hear what they had to say! You'll get your turn I promise, Colin is a good moderator & passes the baton well if you let him
Josh Daniel
2024-07-01 22:49:33 +0000 UTCThis episode will probably be bad for my blood pressure, but I can’t help but listen!
PluuusRyan
2024-07-01 22:39:42 +0000 UTCImpossible to be an isolationist nation when the US has the world’s largest economy in the age of globalization.
Matt Llewellyn
2024-07-01 22:39:14 +0000 UTCSo reading the comments, I saw a number of posts saying the whole 'good people on both sides' quote was a lie. And my first response was ,'What?!? I've heard him say it!' But in the interest of always doing what I can to live by facts, I looked it up and I was wrong. I mean, he DID say it- and I DO still think the guy is a piece of shit and most likely is racist, anti-semetic, anti-ANYTHING that is not what at the moment is best for HIM- BUT I will admit: it seems clear that while he said the quote, the sentences around it make it very, very clear he was NOT talking about Nazis and white supremacists/ nationalists/etc. And I was wrong on that, and I appreciate the push back. Which makes the lack of fact checking during debates even worse. I get it should be our responsibility to check the sources and what not (and btw, I got this from NBC so it's hard to get more left leaning than that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmaZR8E12bs) but it would be nice if the news media (on all sides) put the focus on facts and not drama (altho I get it's the business which is a real shame). I will proudly always be progressive; I will always push for programs to help people who need help and protection; I will always stand up to bullies and elite fuckers who want to stay rich at the cost of others. But I won't do it by lying and refusing to admit when I'm wrong. And in this case, I was wrong and- again- I appreciate the pushback. And shame on Biden. BUT that said, triple shame on Trump for the lies he told (way more than Biden did). Jaffe
David Jaffe
2024-07-01 22:38:24 +0000 UTCI have to admit that I went in to this episode a little on edge, but holy shit was I surprised at how good this was. And mad props to Jaffe for asking if he was just buying into Democratic talking points. I think it takes a lot of courage in this day and age to take a step back and ask the question, maybe I'm wrong? Just awesome stuff.
Cory Knudsen
2024-07-01 22:25:13 +0000 UTCThe "rigged" system produced insurgent nominees like Obama and Trump. And Bill Clinton, and Ronald Reagan. The election illiteracy here is staggering.
ByWatterson
2024-07-01 21:49:11 +0000 UTCJaffe read Twitter and has thoughts.
ByWatterson
2024-07-01 21:46:11 +0000 UTCHe’s “very open minded and willing to change his beliefs” meanwhile he’s repeating long debunked bullshit from 7 years ago.
Brandon V
2024-07-01 21:39:13 +0000 UTCGene Hillary won the first debate against trump and then lost the last 2
iain mcmanus
2024-07-01 21:26:07 +0000 UTCJaffe since you read all the comments, I just wanted to say I appreciate your voice and love when you’re on. I think you’re bat shit crazy sometimes but I think you bring a lot to the show when you’re on. Wouldn’t be the same without you.
Bogey
2024-07-01 21:21:49 +0000 UTCI think he thinks he comes off like Gene(a rational leftist) but he just comes off like a hysterical, wine drunk twitter cat lady who hasn’t had sex in 25 years. It’s a very specific vibe that only a person who has been propagandized to the point of no return puts off
Brandon V
2024-07-01 21:14:41 +0000 UTC“Good people on both sides” is a hoax jaffe it’s been years and you still have no idea what the actual statement says. Anyone that spreads this lie to say trump is a racist nazi or whatever is completely disingenuous. You are over half a century old learn to do some research.
iain mcmanus
2024-07-01 21:13:22 +0000 UTCWhat lies did he tell? Give me your top 3 and I’ll go look into them. Genuinely interested. Let me know.
Adam Barnes
2024-07-01 21:10:28 +0000 UTCCentre leftist - Biden is an abysmal candidate and should retire. He’s absolutely lost it. Trump is truly awful for the country and its social stability. He’s a liar and a shill. Truly terrible choice to make but would 100% vote Biden because of the party he represents and because I truly believe Trump is bad news.
Michael Robinson
2024-07-01 21:05:35 +0000 UTCJaffe is the worst kind of human being....
Kevin Miller
2024-07-01 20:59:12 +0000 UTCBiden called them predators and said he didn’t want his children living in an urban jungle referring to blacks people.
iain mcmanus
2024-07-01 20:39:27 +0000 UTCAll timer episode
Shawn Kelvey Jr
2024-07-01 20:37:47 +0000 UTCReally? Biden was tired from working hard all day? He spent over a week "practicing" to stand and talk. CNN was even fact checking Biden on his lies (that's how egregious they were.) Anytime I hear anything about racism, but that person doesn't call out Biden's numerous n-word speeches, I just know you're being disingenuous.
Ryan Wargo
2024-07-01 20:34:45 +0000 UTCMost people on both sides will believe that their candidate won a presidential debate based on content, regardless of delivery, because they agree with the message conveyed. However, the likely truth is that right-wing policies regarding the economy, immigration, and taxes will resonate with more voters during this election cycle. If a majority of the country can’t afford to support policies that reduce their purchasing power and income after taxes, then only a minority can. A minority of voters is a lost election.
GameSimp
2024-07-01 20:25:04 +0000 UTCWill take the rotting corpse of Biden over Trump any day
Max Davis
2024-07-01 20:17:08 +0000 UTCA correction: Hillary was the one who said the "super predator" thing. And why did nobody mention Biden introduced a immigration reform bill that was shot down by republicans specifically so Trump could keep it as a solid campaign issue
Dennis
2024-07-01 20:16:38 +0000 UTCI really don’t think isolationist America is a win at this time We are in a period where Russia and China are emboldened and are acting aggressively on the world stage. The U.S. receding from that stage would be detrimental to themselves and the western world And as an Australian, I know full well how much this benefits my country, but this is not a good time for isolationism.
Mitchell Hogan
2024-07-01 20:15:23 +0000 UTCIt’s so difficult to listen to these episodes when someone is making a point and Jaffee has to literally interrupt everyone, he’s so self centered that his opinions are better that he has to interrupt everyone.
Whiskeywhiskey
2024-07-01 20:06:50 +0000 UTCMany such cases
Brandon V
2024-07-01 20:04:33 +0000 UTCJaffe doesn't believe in God and yet hates God so much.
Shadi Haddad
2024-07-01 19:40:06 +0000 UTCColins voting trump LETS GO
iain mcmanus
2024-07-01 19:36:27 +0000 UTCLeftists (including the three on this episode) are consuming so much copium when it comes to comparing trump to Biden. Trump had a great debate. He stuck to his points and he won on the substance when specifically on abortion, immigration and foreign policy. It’s not even close. Biden should have bodied him on abortion and he completely caved his head in.
iain mcmanus
2024-07-01 19:32:28 +0000 UTCI definitely agree that corporations are naturally greedy but corporations are certainly not more greedy than they were 10 years ago. Yet inflation is higher than it was then. The impact of government spending and policy is hard to quantify but it seems like it’s one of the major contributors to inflation right now.
Matthew Hopkins
2024-07-01 19:22:06 +0000 UTCDamn…Poor Chris getting trampled over by everyone else.
Bogey
2024-07-01 19:12:08 +0000 UTCIt is a shame that JFK Jr died in '99...this would have been the perfect time for him to step up in this national moment of crisis.
Sam Strajack
2024-07-01 18:48:34 +0000 UTCMy intention was to vote for Trump even before the debate. After the debate, it just solidified how out of it Biden is. A walking corpse. No thank you. MAGA 2024
Yiorgos
2024-07-01 18:40:52 +0000 UTCDems stuck with Biden since he is the incumbent but he shouldn't be running. That said, I would still vote for Biden over Trump even if Biden is in the middle of being cremated
Suce Mes Orteils
2024-07-01 18:37:57 +0000 UTC"If you don't vote for me, you ain't black". It wasn't Trump who said that
Yiorgos
2024-07-01 18:36:46 +0000 UTCColin. If you dont think the USA had a major hand in provoking the Ukraine war, then I have some WMDs to sell you my friend
Phil Walker
2024-07-01 18:33:22 +0000 UTCHow are we still using fact-checkers as a criticism against Trump? The "both people on both sides" quote has been false since day 1. Snopes recently revised it after SEVEN YEARS. I do not trust anything that the media has to say and it shows a lot when two sides talk about an issue and they don't agree on the most basic sources of information.
Jose
2024-07-01 18:25:07 +0000 UTCIf Trump wins it will be more a failure of the Democrats not being able to engage with the people who would win them the election, minorities and young people. Trump is the ideal candidate for rural voters and the less educated masses because he speaks into words what they are all thinking. Both candidates are terrible and social media is ruining our society anyway. Where's a John McCain when you need him.
Kiryu-Chan
2024-07-01 18:24:24 +0000 UTCThe UK is boring overall so that adds up
Christian Longo
2024-07-01 18:12:21 +0000 UTCJaffe is still calling Trump a racist 🤣🤣🤣
Christian Longo
2024-07-01 18:09:06 +0000 UTCTrump 2024 has been a no brainer since day one
Chris King
2024-07-01 18:02:51 +0000 UTCInflation has more to do with corporate greed than anything else. If anything the government should be not involved because the corporations have proven they can not regulate themselves
StabieMcStabStab
2024-07-01 17:59:44 +0000 UTCI agree 100% w/ Colin in the same sense I hate Orange man Trump and I don't give a fuck about all these other social problems. But I don't give a fuck LGBTQ at all and I voted for Biden in Georgia to just get Trump out. I don't have trans kids and the rest of the country is more important than, oh no do not let feelings get hurt or tell ppl the reality.
Otacon_Ocelot
2024-07-01 17:52:22 +0000 UTCI’m in my 40s and I didn’t vote for the first time in my life this past March. I probably won’t vote this November, either. I had always despised people who say they don’t vote because the candidates are so repugnant, but here I am. I get it now.
Jimmy G
2024-07-01 17:48:27 +0000 UTCFrom the UK this shit is insane. How is it possible that from 300 million people a criminal and a senile man are your choices?... We've got an election this week between a boring lawyer and a boring banker, it's 100x better than this yikes !
Murderer Kevin
2024-07-01 17:41:39 +0000 UTCSeriously can’t wait to listen to this. I miss Colin’s take on politics. Good shit guys!
Brad Fabre
2024-07-01 17:38:01 +0000 UTCLooking forward to the listen!
Geoff
2024-07-01 17:34:24 +0000 UTCDork
Brandon V
2024-07-01 17:20:51 +0000 UTCGotta be honest, it's kinda annoying whenever someone starts to make a valid point about how Biden isn't fit for office, Jaffe feels the need to interject YEA BUT TRUMP IS MEAN!
Meatball
2024-07-01 17:20:19 +0000 UTCCan't wait for all the fascist defending Trumptards to flock to this comment section. He doesn't care about you, the economy, or even democracy. I'm sure you all are excited for his insane tariffs but you're all too economically illiterate to know how bad it is for you.
Tom Cullen
2024-07-01 16:56:23 +0000 UTCI'm getting big 2016 election vibes. Both candidates shouldn't be the nominees but 2024 Biden isn't as bad as Clinton and 2024 Trump is way worse than 2016/2020 Trump. Biden is just too old. Trump is more senile than Biden plus he's a fucking fruit loop. Trump would rather meat munch Putin and Kim than fix immigration or inflation
Suce Mes Orteils
2024-07-01 16:54:16 +0000 UTCI watched the RFK Jr. version….. yeaaa im definitely voting for him.
Bebo513
2024-07-01 16:54:04 +0000 UTCTrump can lie a bunch in a debate, but at the end of the day people have experienced life under both these presidents. I’ve seen this rodeo before I’ll take the alive person
DeucesBruh
2024-07-01 16:46:45 +0000 UTCI also work with merchants in the Dairy category, the egg prices were driven from culling flocks due to bird flu.
BadHairDayCaveman
2024-07-01 16:46:25 +0000 UTCInflation is world wide, not on Joe Biden…. And i fucking can’t stand Joe Biden. I shop multiple grocery stores, some stores charge close to double for the same at another, for example Vital Farms 1 dozen Eggs range 5.99 to 9.99. 1lb of organic strawberries, 2.99 to 7.99 same brand.
BadHairDayCaveman
2024-07-01 16:44:12 +0000 UTCChris here im listening
Pediatrician Disrespect
2024-07-01 16:41:29 +0000 UTCThis episode is the perfect permutation of talent for this topic. Stoked for my day of programming while listening to this.
Anthony Palerino
2024-07-01 16:29:35 +0000 UTCWow holy fuck finally, Chris is on a political episode! 👍🏻👍🏻. This is gonna be a goat episode
Diddy’s Dong Quest
2024-07-01 16:12:59 +0000 UTCI couldn't believe Biden speaking as badly as he was and he still thinks he's fit to be president so terrible.
Josef Barker
2024-07-01 16:10:53 +0000 UTCTruly the best lineup
Joe B
2024-07-01 16:09:07 +0000 UTCCalypso would probably beat both candidates
Conor Wilson
2024-07-01 16:09:01 +0000 UTCWe sure did Joe, we sure did
plzsendpie
2024-07-01 16:07:20 +0000 UTCthis is hype but after this the Dagster better be back
Eric the human
2024-07-01 16:07:03 +0000 UTCGetting the popcorn ready for this one
Seth Zentner
2024-07-01 16:06:54 +0000 UTCFinally Chris and Jaffe!!!!!
Crangis McBasketball
2024-07-01 16:06:08 +0000 UTCI always did the raw dog thing on a flight since I was a child. Can’t sleep on planes and can’t concentrate properly on any media I bring with me. So just sit there
John Carroll
2024-07-01 16:05:05 +0000 UTCAppreciate you always putting Jaffe on the political episodes Colin! Love that we typically get both sides and it’s not just a left or right circlejerk
Mattveego
2024-07-01 16:04:36 +0000 UTCLFG
A Hind D
2024-07-01 16:04:15 +0000 UTC4 hours?! Yes please!
Moomoo
2024-07-01 16:03:53 +0000 UTCWe beat Medicare. Also, we finally got Chris and Jaffe together, LFG! Pumped for this one.
Colin Moriarty
2024-07-01 16:00:39 +0000 UTC
