Sacred Symbols, Episode 257 | Negative Vibe Merchants

Kojima made this game. It’s silly to lament his lack of involvement in a remake of his game. This game deserves no less than the same treatment that Dead Space and Resident Evil have received. If they don’t treat it with that much respect, then they aren’t respecting my dollars and I will stick with Subsistence.

Greg Hommel

Shout out to this thumbnail... I'm glad that I'm not the only one who found Jim Ryan's sudden burst of "emotion" incredibly unsettling. Shit was like the Babadook coming out of the shadows to get me.

Kevin Cooper

All hail the return of Slitterhead

Alex Landry

Boys, France has the most successful military history. Yeah, they folded in World War 2 but just fought WW1 (where they had over 6million casualties). On French fries, I read that US soldiers discovered them in the southern Francophone part of Belgium during World War 2. Don’t know if that’s actually true but it would be the most American thing ever to call them French fries then.

Zorro

I definitely disagreed with Colin saying that "Sacred Symbols predicted this outcome". The whole sentiment from the podcast going into the showcase was high expectations and how it had been so long since they had spoken.

Jordan Brown

Chris - I hold in my pee like an adult 😂. Great ep guys!

Jeffrey Rommel

What does a multiplayer only game from a studio that doesn’t use the word ‘fun’ even look like. Great episode as always guys

Mr. Plow

I am begging you guys to stop touching the actual mic when moving it. Touch the mic arm or the shock mount. The amount of mic bumps I’m getting in my headphones is going to cause me to go deaf.

YaBoyStevieJay

It’s funny how every time Colin gets interrupted prior to finishing his point, he says “I’m sorry, go ahead”.

Kid-Organic

Movie prices, at least in Texas, have stabilized since the rise 10 years ago. AMC is still a rip off buy CineMark is pretty cheap and usually nicer than AMC.

Brannon H

Haha I'm working now and dying! Poor Timmy Tolkien!

Tommy Larsen

I’m so glad you brought up Bat Boy, Colin. I had never heard of it, but after checking it out I love it! Obviously heavily inspired by Shovel Knight but it’s so good.

Josh Lucas

Gollum is this generations E.T…

Napoleon in Rags

Timothy Tolkien had me dying in the break room at work. Colin, it was probably a Freudian-slip as Chris has noted in the past that Gollum looks like Tommy from The Rugrats, and Timothy is close enough lol

Jesse V

I played ED hunter game on PC as kid when It came out.

rubber nipples 209

Bosman had an interesting critique about Fairgames(I refuse to use the dollar sign) having a confusing message. You have two groups of anarchists killing each other over a shared cause. The games mechanics mirror the greed and corruption that the game’s creators are attempting to comment on. It’s absurd.

Nikitas Gagas

Dustin "for me" Furman strikes again

Jason

Timmy fuckin Tolkien 😂between this and the tomb raider script I need more British accent from Chris.

JohnOfTheDead

If Naughty Dog thinks their game is good then I genuinely couldn't care what Bungie thinks. I don't like this obsession with live service games. I also think Colin's discussion on this topic was really great. Good episode fellas.

Brannon H

I'm about to listen to this on a flight to tokyo! Hope everyone is having a wonderful day!

Jaxon Lastiwka

I can buy a game and entertain myself for a couple weeks to a month or I could spend that in a few hours going out.

Jason Hjartarson

Still think that showcase was underwhelming. If it was titled a State of Play, it would’ve been better off.

NeO JD

We are never getting multiplayer games that most people play for 40 hours then abandon. At least not this generational cycle. The cornerstone of live service is longitudinal monetization and longevity in market. It’s practically the definition, even moreso than the multiplayer aspect. That’s the reason so many of us are leery about this new focus. If NAUGHTY DOG can’t even get their take on a service game to market, God have mercy on us when it comes to whatever the hell actually makes it through. Hard to get excited about a strategy in which you know that most games will be failures.

Jimmy G

I feel like when colin goes on these rants about others in the field i feel so lost and confused. I don’t go to any other source for news on games though, so maybe im the odd one.

Dana Anderson

God of War on PC had a great port from release.

Jason K

I have to give my thoughts on the showcase after hearing you guys talk about it in this episode. I have been Xbox centric since the 360 but I dabble here and there with other platforms and after the recent flops with Xbox I was paying more attention to this showcase than I normally would. I also don't keep up with rumors or leaks so I had no knowledge of what was expected to be shown or anything like that. I went into this show case completely blind and at the end, thought it was really good. I did not look at feedback until the end of the showcase and was shocked to see such upset takes. Looking back on it I can see how a lack of release dates or first party showings hurt, but it seems that the expectations Sony set ended up hurting them. Maybe if they had called it a "Third Party Focused" Showcase it would have done better. I am not sure. All I know is that as someone without any expectation for PlayStation, the showcase felt like a solid B to me. Thanks CDC for another great podcast!

PsychCoffee

I know y’all already mentioned this a bit but I want to emphasize for my view that I just can’t give points towards ps or Xbox for revealing 3rd party games, although I may be excited for said game I’m specifically more so looking to see ps5 or series x only next gen console exclusive games to sway me as a consumer towards why I should purchase/upgrade to one or the other console. From that perspective I can count Ff16, Spider-Man 2, sword of the sea, GT7 and maybe Phantom blade? With that being said those are solid but personally I’m not sure I’ll buy a ps5 yet based on those and previously shown exclusives. Spider-Man 2 has me pretty close though. We will see what Xbox has to show but I’m hoping they have a better showing no guarantees tho. I mostly love last of us and Bethesda games like oblivion and fallout 3/NV.

Joe Campbell

Almost spit out my drink to Timmy Tolkien

Henry Morgan

Thanks for using my write-in! I was certainly focusing more on the astronomical increases to rent and groceries that are accelerating beyond the rate of inflation as Chris discussed, rather than the games industry itself. I think $70 is fair, but hard to justify for those in the lower economic rungs currently. Sorry if that was unclear!

Zackery Parkerson

I’m not saying it’s a causal relationship. It’s just a fact, gaming is a hobby. If you are struggling to support yourself so much that you can’t afford games when they’re the cheapest they’ve ever been, you need to reprioritize. Lying to people isn’t empathy.

DeucesBruh

Thanks guy, great episode. Great points on video game pricing, I can honestly say I feel a bit silly that I didn’t connect those dots earlier but thanks for clearing things up. Appreciate all y’all do!

Gaelan K

If you truly cannot find empathy for your fellow human beings and are over 18, you need to focus more on bettering yourself and less on games.

Zackery Parkerson

Dude, what a dick comment.

Your Boi Nicky V

With how massive the HBO show is. Its just wild to think factions could be canceled.

william planas

Beep Beep Beep - So much conversation defending their opinion on this showcase. They all expected big things and got a bunch of third party multi plat games and Spider Man. - Collin wants to talk about context, the context here for people’s disappointment in Last Stands opinion on the showcase are based on the expectations they set going into this thing. For the past two years Collin has talked about how it was time for Sony to talk. They talked, and it was mostly about games coming to Xbox. This “we’re the rational ones stance is kind of bogus.”

Vanzant

I’m actually excited for the Q-Lite. Can finally play sidescrollers & RPGs in bed that I refuse to play elsewhere cuz I want the trophies.

Brandon Soto

If you truly cannot afford 70$ games and you are over 18 you need to focus more on your career and less on games.

DeucesBruh

For what it's worth, I remember Colin saying at some point in the past something like, "The next time Sony speaks, you might not like what you're going to hear." Well, that's pretty much what happened. I wasn't the least bit surprised about what we saw, which maybe made me a little more neutral than these console warriors out there hyping themselves up. Haven's game really set the tone for this showcase in hindsight.

David Portnov

Shoutout to Dustin, both in this episode and the recent sales saga, mentioning the Alan Wake 2 trailer. Control is one of my absolute favorites of all time and I've always wanted to go back and try Alan Wake but never had. The trailer/announcement coupled with the game being on sale on the PS store finally got me to dive into it. Gotta say, pretty good. It's cool to go back and see the DNA that would be in Control later. If anything, playing Alan Wake Remastered gets me reeeeeal fuckin hyped for Alan Wake 2. This IP with a more modern approach that's more horror focused really get's the blood flowin if you know what I'm sayin

Out_Of_Focus_Bigfoot

Now I’m farther into the episode. That was my write in about Prince of Persias trophies.

Trapgunner

Timothy Tolkien and the Blatant Misuse of Maybe the Most Important Fantasy IP Ever

Noah Friscopp

When I heard the talk about Tolkien I thought Colin might have returned to speaking of the Timmy family back from the kinda funny days.

Trapgunner

I thought it was a mid tier show, disappointing for how long they’d gone without a showcase, but not terrible. I had people mad at me in discussion groups for not hating it even though I said it was 2.5 to 3 out of 5 at best, lol.

TL

Factions is my favorite MP ever, it’s just unfortunate that they did not give us anything with TLOU PT2 or the PT1 remake, and now this trouble. My only real thought I can have without more info is maybe you were right about the coop focus, and Bungie felt like not having as much of a competitive focus is why it wouldn’t last.

TL

Project Q's power is going to be minimal because it's a low end SOC that just needs to handle streaming. But even if it's not, having local games means having built in storage, which in turn balloons the price. Short battery life is also likely a cost cutting measure. We'll see how many mAh it is when specs are revealed.

Ealia Staroverov

Saying that the showcase was bad does not mean you think it would hurt ps5 sales. When evaluating a console maker's showcase, people ask "does this make me excited to be on this particular platform?" They aren't asking "how does this affect ps5 sales?" We are watching commercials, not a board meeting.

I am still so surprised by the amount of discontent around the PlayStation showcase. I'm PC only nowadays so from the outside looking in I was interested to see what all the teams were working on and I was very hype to see how many of the games were coming to PC. I don't really care to "grade" these showcases or whatever they're calling them, I'm just more interested in seeing what they're working on and that's what I got

Zac Lebeau

So much angst and pain, it's so whack. =)

Colin Moriarty

"I cannot handle all the negative vibe merchants. Is that all you have in you perchance?"

Was it intentional that Habroxia 2 be given free to Xbox Live Gold or Game Pass subscribers in South Korea? Basically means you can get it free globally. I saw this post on a Canadian deals site this morning and was surprised: https://forums.redflagdeals.com/habroxia-2-free-xbox-live-gold-game-pass-subscribers-2621427/

Jake H.

Love the title

Josh Moore

Chris's favorite word has to be "Jarring".

Asique Alam

I feel like Matty is going to unintentionally take some strays from Colin during his Forsaken monologue.

Joseph Gedgaudas

4 hours 20 minutes blaze it

four24twenty

Haven’t watched the episode yet but I feel like gaming as whole focuses too much on Sci Fi. A lot of games kinda just look like Destiny

Messenger

Holy shit this is a beefy one

Eric

Another glorious Friday Praises to LSM!

Jesse spivey