One Piece is the GOAT but it's not about character development. It's about characters influencing the world around them.
Naruto has way more character development. But that don't make it better. Character Development is not the end-all-be-all.
Lycan nailed it. "Don't confuse Luffy's character development with the story of One Piece."
Steffan Mouton
2021-12-20 16:40:02 +0000 UTC
I watch yall because you guys are actual fans of the show and actually invested in the story. Love when you guys include your selfs in the crew whenever they accomplish something aswell lol.
Buffy
2021-12-15 17:05:59 +0000 UTC
Lmaoo I watch y’all cause y’all real and y’all peep stuff and and the debates are cool even when their not related to the anime lol but I like yall chemistry together it’s like Zoro and sanji
Carlos Perez
2021-12-14 04:42:46 +0000 UTC
I heard an analysis once that I tend to agree with.
One Piece is rarely about development. We see it sometimes, but often the characters are already developed so to speak. Many pivotal moments for our characters happened in the past already, and we see them through flashbacks.
Instead, One Piece is more about how your character impacts the world around you. Instead of a strong world forcing the character to develop, the strong character forces the world to develop.
Not saying it's a better way to do tell stories or anything. Just repeating an idea that I like.
Steffan Mouton
2021-12-13 18:26:57 +0000 UTC
I like Luffy as a character more than Naruto, he's in my top 3 manga protagonists. But Naruto definitely has way more development
Guts from Berserk
2021-12-13 06:15:46 +0000 UTC
I also think Naruto has greater Character development. Luffy has like 2-3 moments where he really matured. First was before Alabasta when Nami was sick and Vivi as a princess bowed her head to save her. Luffy does the same thing later on Fishman island. Second was on Water 7 when he fought Usopp and learned what it means to be a captain. And the last time when he lost his crew and his brother right after. He felt to weak to protect his friends so he promised to become stronger. You could even argue that Shanks loosing his arm or Sabo‘s death in ASL arc also count as Character development but I would still give it to Naruto. However, Luffy is still my fave main Character out of all the anime I have seen so far.
Kevko
2021-12-13 00:30:16 +0000 UTC
To summ it up, we don't know most of Luffy's development cuz we are never in his head and he doesn't talk about his feelings, he just feels them lmao. Even in the story it's weird sometimes when you see the crew interact with each other, and discovering new stuff about each other, that we, the viewers already knew ! I love Luffy but I believe his brain is mostly at a 12 years old peak aha.
Gaïa New Gate
2021-12-12 12:11:55 +0000 UTC
I watch yall cause the chemistry between you two is a good vibe with the banter etc. and one piece is my favorite story so it just works
biscuit man
2021-12-12 08:00:17 +0000 UTC
The first 24 mins is exactly why i watch yall
BioSanjiVinsmoke
2021-12-12 06:34:33 +0000 UTC
Lycan: "you gotta stop people from playing the victim when they're not"
Also Lycan: starts a 10 minute discussion about how Amenz touched his tape measure and by the end of it Amenz owes him a new one
Oh right, I watch you guys cause you've got good character and make a good team
Nick K
2021-12-12 03:31:33 +0000 UTC
I also agree I'm a big luffy and one piece fan but naruto's character development is way greaterrr. But I have hope for One Piece's future as there are many secrets we do not. But we going thru this together !! lol
2021-12-12 03:04:54 +0000 UTC
Facts about ichigo 😂
Yavvane
2021-12-12 02:59:13 +0000 UTC
Being Genuity, and yall just like me. Being so relatable like that is like I'm watching and talking to my homies and yall the homies!
2021-12-12 02:45:14 +0000 UTC
I think what differentiates the both of you with other reactors is you guys go in depth with your opinions, analysis and speculation. Other reactors usually just react to the moment and explicitly state the first thoughts that come to their mind[wow, cool, amazing, never saw that coming etc]. They usually keep it light and keep the reaction of the episode going. You guys really go all in on elaborating your thoughts about how the developments unfolding impact the story. You guys also have the benefit of having a conversation[two reactors] and have good synergy bouncing ideas off and against each other which enhances the quality of discussion and entertainment value.
2021-12-12 01:20:37 +0000 UTC
One Piece, the point of view for the audience is more like being part of the crew as a strawhat, you go with the whims of Luffy not knowing exactly what surprises and decisions he makes next.
2021-12-12 01:11:00 +0000 UTC
There is character development and character progression Naruto has more development and luffy has more progression. Luffy and naruto have both but luffy didnt need develop his ideals like naruto had to because his dream is a lot more self centered (pirate king). But naruto had a self centered dream(to become hokage so he can have respect) and through his life as he mature as a shinobi he became a man trying find peace in the world.
2021-12-12 00:42:42 +0000 UTC
Remember Sanji's code name he used to talk to Crocodile?
Token Log In
2021-12-12 00:16:14 +0000 UTC
I watch you guys because you ask the important questions like; can ducks fly? do frogs swim? and what exactly is depth perception?
Token Log In
2021-12-11 23:58:15 +0000 UTC
Bruh these character development arguments on twitter and stuff almost always boil down to who that person likes more. Not actual facts about story or character.
Kasert
2021-12-11 23:36:33 +0000 UTC
Tbh i watch you gus cuz y'all keep it real and honest with your opinions, good hype too. Also the discussions are fun lmao
2021-12-11 23:17:38 +0000 UTC
I understand what y’all are saying about character development. I think Luffy has character development but The way Oda writes him it’s mostly up to how you interpret his actions. I noticed it more when rewatching certain arcs. I do agree that Naruto has more character development but it wasn’t always good, which is why I don’t have Naruto above Luffy or Ichigo.
D4C
2021-12-11 21:51:54 +0000 UTC
I think luffy is the best mc and maybe he doesn't have the most development, but that's probably because he is such a solid character and I don't see how you can feel a stronger connection to naruto than luffy after watching one-piece You see how much he's a ride or die how much pain we've seen him go through but he still retains that playful attitude in my opinion luffy and naruto are both relatable but I like luffy better as a character
Lleon Swanston
2021-12-11 21:05:59 +0000 UTC
I like that you guys have knowledge about dragon ball and naruto. And you guys are hilarious and don’t curse.
Lovelyerica
2021-12-11 19:48:41 +0000 UTC
if i had to nail down a reason i watch it has to be the discussions you guys go into even when it is completely off topic haha
John
2021-12-11 19:43:08 +0000 UTC
So I just started watching naruto and I already notice his emotional development. He doesn’t want to stay a victim his whole life bc his parents died and that’s not easy to do.. now Luffy we mainly see how he develops as a leader and captain. When Ace died he did struggle emotional and he had ppl to help remind him about his crew. But overall Luffy is not written to show off his emotional feelings like that. He doesn’t have much inner dialogue to know how he feels inside
Lovelyerica
2021-12-11 19:03:31 +0000 UTC
Mr. Prince
Sandi
2021-12-11 18:45:03 +0000 UTC
I like rewatching things in general, but reaction for other people makes you reexperience it imo. I found you guys when you first reacted to one piece openings. I just randomly searched for one piece opening reaction and your video were one of the ones I picked. I enjoyed you guys reactions and was only going to watch the first episode with you guys. I enjoyed you guys personality and I think having 2 people react was even better. Having 2 different perspectives of things! KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK!
Mario Garcia
2021-12-11 18:14:29 +0000 UTC
I love how y’all truly rock with the story and characters, your side discussions and tangents be hilarious, and the it's not often I see real black people into one piece like I am so I support all that you guys do.(I watch lots of your other content too)
Kevin Spencer
2021-12-11 18:05:25 +0000 UTC
I forget which episode exactly but there is 1 side side side Character we met for a second that made the comment of "Those eyebrows look familiar". It was never touched on again. It was a quick comment, other Characters were talking so it was instantly brushed off. Also Amenz baits Lycan into starting debates. Amenz will bring something up and then Lycan ends up wanting to prove Amenz wrong or just understand what he said more in detail and then it just goes off the rails.
Thtjustinguy
2021-12-11 17:42:07 +0000 UTC
I like watching y’all because of your personalities your humour the debates the vibe of the reactions are always chill and funny you don’t over react or fake the reactions if you don’t like something y’all say it directly and I respect that.
Y’all just complement each other perfectly.
Cherif ÄNT¥
2021-12-11 17:35:43 +0000 UTC
Also y'all are 100% right. Luffy does not progress as a character too much lol
You're also right that a lot of people hold Luffy higher because of the story. I actually watched a video recently that mentioned this. The creator said that people do this a lot because the way One Piece is structured, the characters and story are very tightly intertwined. Most characters are designed, down to their physical appearance, based on their place in the world. In Luffy's case, his development is really the development of his crew, and his political position in the world. You guys are at a point now where Luffy has a whole fleet now. In the One Piece world, this only happens because Luffy is unchanging and unmoving. It makes him not progress on a personal level, but it allows him to drastically change/develop the world around him.
But yeah, it's dumb to equate that to Naruto's personal development. Naruto's development is top notch for personal character development
I V
2021-12-11 17:18:46 +0000 UTC
I like watching you guys cause you feel authentic, other reactors tend to seem to be TRYING to react.
Devin Osborne
2021-12-11 17:09:40 +0000 UTC
Answering the question at the beginning:
I personally watch y'all more than other reactors for a few reasons.
The main thing is that you guys pay attention to what's going on in the show, and also get in to it. Or if it's kind of a weaker part of an arc, you guys still try to give it attention until it's over and you can say for sure that it sucked. Also I think being a duo helps keep you both on your toes, especially because y'all often have different opinions or theories about things. Sometimes it leads to super long discussions, but that's a good vibe, and you guys catch more details like that. It's exactly how I'd be if I was debating a show with my friends. That's a feeling that's harder to find with a solo reaction channel.
The other reason I really enjoy your content is the consistency of releases. And when stuff comes up that breaks consistency, you're quick to communicate. The communication being way more important. I'm sure almost everyone here including me is totally okay if you miss upload days here and there. But the communication keeps us in the loop so we aren't left confused and wondering when we're getting an upload. Getting those updates through patreon is huge for me too. I'm not in the discord. I don't get this level of communication with any other reactor that I'm following right now.
There's a lot of other good things to say too, but those are the biggest things for me personally.
I V
2021-12-11 16:59:44 +0000 UTC
I started watching you guys when you were around Impel Down,I really appreciated the fact that you weren't acting weird about the whole Level 5.5 like many dude reactors tends too, that was refreshing, Then I kept watching you, because you have a great dynamic together. I joined one of Lycan streams for Bleach and I loved his energy. I am a 24 yo woman so sometimes you guys are a bit weird about women but whatever lmao, to each their own. As a whole I would say, you pay attention to the story-building, and your debates are hilarious !
Gaïa New Gate
2021-12-11 16:55:47 +0000 UTC
I like your guys' dynamic. Its like 2 sides of a coin. You guys r real with ur reactions and when theres a argument/discussion, Im never on the same side. Sometimes I agree with amenz, and sometimes with lycan. I find that rly enjoyable, especially when it comes to reactors that have more than 1 person, because usually ill just enjoy one person's reaction, not all of em. One thing I dont like about yall reaction tho is when theres a wholesome moment in onepiece that takes a minute to build up but its ruined instantly because something slightly sus happened, both yall start saying PAUSE and just ruin the mood. It happens alot, esp in some of my fav wholesome moments but thats just my own opinion and i dont expect any change. Much love boys, keep doing what yall doin
Zeerocious
2021-12-11 16:45:02 +0000 UTC
What sort of character development do you guys think Luffy needs to compete with Naruto? I think Luffy's development is really subtle and comes in his decision making, but he's definitely not a changed man or anything in the way Naruto is after he goes through some shit.
Yall just brought up Ichigo and I reckon that dude is just sad boi. That his development lol. Goes from dope cocky character to 24/7 sadboi. Tbh I think he develops more than Luffy but I don't like his development at all
SomeoneElse
2021-12-11 15:54:06 +0000 UTC
Why do I watch you guys over others? Man where do I start. You guys are real dudes. Nothing feels fake. Never overdoing it. Your friendship is dope. I think you guys bounce off each other really fucking well. I feel like I'm watching shows with da bois when I'm watching your reactions. Also you're not dumb either, and pick up on lots of stuff that others miss.
For a lot of Patreons I will cancel my subscription and return at a later date, but you guys alone I intend to stick with until the end and probably beyond.
Also your upload schedule is pretty perfect. I could always ask for more but we definitely get enough. AND yall always update us when there are delays etc
SomeoneElse
2021-12-11 15:46:18 +0000 UTC
I enjoy the heck out yall videos 😭😭
Kenan
2021-12-11 15:30:49 +0000 UTC
YALL ARE FUNNY AS FUCK!! AND I LOVE HOW YOU GUYS TALK TO EACHOTHER ABOUT STUFF YOU GUYS DONT UNDERSTAND
jose cuevas
2021-12-11 15:30:20 +0000 UTC
Lycan starts ALL DEBATES😂😂😂😂😂
Yavvane
2021-12-11 15:06:51 +0000 UTC
y'all black and fw one piece I couldn't ask for anything else😂 but also I love watching anime and I like watching people enjoy there own content, y'all don't fake nothing so I got plenty respect for it
Yavvane
2021-12-11 14:59:38 +0000 UTC
Sure naruto has better character development, but that was around the end, and you havem't seen the end of one piece yet. So naruto may have that now, but I think luffy is the best mc out of all animes
Mike
2021-12-11 14:48:37 +0000 UTC
Yea you guys are my favorite to wacth cause you have good pre and post convos after the epsiode
Mike
2021-12-11 14:47:02 +0000 UTC
For me, Luffy's resolve and willpower to protect his friend got stronger when ace died but I'm not sure if I would say he is a different man from that moment because he already had that willpower it just got stronger
Hopetro
2021-12-11 13:16:16 +0000 UTC
also at this point im 700+ episodes in. Yall wiill have to do something absolutely horrible for me to switch to another person now.
DetectiveYuki
2021-12-11 13:07:41 +0000 UTC
To answer yalls question. You two just seem pretty cool and genuine and stuff. Yall point out flaws and strong points of the show rather than endless gushing. On top of it, you guys upload consistently and are quick to update us when you don't.
DetectiveYuki
2021-12-11 13:06:52 +0000 UTC
Mr. Prince !!
Allram
2021-12-11 12:45:57 +0000 UTC
Now you know why Sanji was "Mr Prince" in Alabasta ;)
Sascha
2021-12-11 12:45:00 +0000 UTC
The Major Development for Luffy was after Ace died. However it didn't develop him in the way people watching would think. Luffy feels that because he ran away from many strong foes, that that was the wrong thing to do, and he should have faced them head on. He said it when he was fighting Fugitora at the end of Dressrossa, that he will stop running like he did in the past. Many of the Fan base sees this more as a regression of the character as apposed to development, because the reason Ace died was because of his refusal to back down from a fight. They don't see how Luffy's mindset is like that, but if you think about it, Luffy's sees it as if he fought all the strong foes head on instead of running, that he could have saved Ace.
Cheddah Slammer
2021-12-11 12:35:46 +0000 UTC
Sanji did nickname himself mr Prince back in alabastar
Daniel Turner
2021-12-11 12:32:43 +0000 UTC
At the moment Naruto has had greater character growth than luffy but luffy has greater character depth(aka more fleshed out and highlighted) personality than naruto. I think the meaning of the term ‘character development’ is open to interpretation, let me know if I’m wrong on that though(about the definition of character development, not the luffy&naruto stuff).
Marcus
2021-12-11 11:54:25 +0000 UTC
Also you guys have made me laugh my ass off a few times too lol those side eye sus looks you give each other sometimes are fucking funny as hell
Marcus
2021-12-11 11:46:37 +0000 UTC
Yeah i like how you guys are real, but more really how genuine you guys are and that you give positive vibes in the majority of all the time you’re on camera. On the one piece side which is also the second big thing I watch you guys for is how invested you are in and how much attention you pay/read in to the story. You guys make fun at one piece and oda and laugh at the goofy bits but you also really care about the story and actually recognise oda’s writing genius(at least that’s what I’ve picked up from whenever you’re talking about/focusing on the story). Keeping doing what you’re doing guys, it’s going well, as long as you still enjoy doing it anyway. 🤝
Marcus
2021-12-11 11:46:30 +0000 UTC
The thing about Luffy is that his character is almost the same since chapter 1. Most of the strawhats are the same too. They develop early and stay the same but they are changing the world around them as we follow the story. I think Oda's writing style is more focus on how the story(new characters) will interact with these developed characters rather than develop them more. If anyone have more thoughts let's here them =)
Hopetro
2021-12-11 11:43:13 +0000 UTC
I choose my content creators based on what they make and their personality. I watch a ton of reactors, but yall are one of two that I support on Pateron. The main reason is yall make me laugh more than any other, keep up the fire drops!
Tanker358
2021-12-11 11:24:58 +0000 UTC
Lycan I told you bro lol
Razgriz3
2021-12-11 11:13:43 +0000 UTC
As someone who can’t really have a night out at the moment, I really appreciate these last couple of upload times, cheers fellas 🙌
Marcus
2021-12-11 11:12:25 +0000 UTC
You right Lycan, Amenz got a good eye for them waifu’s and I was waiting for this episode just to see how you guys would react to it 😂😂😭😭, but keep up the good work loving the videos 🐐🐐💚💚