Dr. Who Series 3 - The sound of the drums
Added 2022-06-04 14:01:01 +0000 UTCThis is Part 2 of the great finally. I wish you much fun watching it. :)
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Oh cool, thank you for that link. There it is. And all of you knew when I was watching it. Only I had no idea :D :D
Nicologik
2022-06-08 13:43:43 +0000 UTCHere's an example of the Saxon seeding - the scene where Martha is invited onboard the TARDIS (BTW The video link starts at 0:53 because I love "Martha's Theme" music.) But look behind Martha starting from about 1:24 in the video. https://youtu.be/E_IKhQt73DM?t=53
Andrew Vignaux
2022-06-07 20:49:36 +0000 UTCI didn´t know that catchphrase yet, but it makes sense. I have never noticed that before in tv shows, I don´t know why it caught my attention in Dr. Who. But now that I noticed it, i do also notice it in other shows. Maybe reacting to it, made the difference, because I´m analyzing an episode more than I do when I watch it in private. :) The one scene that comes to my head when thinking about this quick resolutions in Dr. Who, is the Cybermen twoparter. In which they are surrounded by Cybermen in the end, and you have no idea, how they could escape. And in the next episode it just takes a couple of seconds. :) Phone call: Oh you´re right. I forgot about that monitoring lady. :D That´s so true. And now it makes also sense :D Thank you :) I didn´t even notice the Torchwood theme, damnit.... I will have to pay attention to this during my Youtube edit. Thanks for pointing it out. I totally missed that. Oh you mean Saxon was as present in other episode, than Bad Wolf? And I missed it again. This show :D :D
Nicologik
2022-06-07 13:02:33 +0000 UTC"With one bound Dick was free" That was a catchphrase referring to a 1940s British radio series which had a cliffhanger structure where the hero was left in an seemingly impossible situation each time which was then resolved quickly at the start of the next episode. Classic Who stories were structured in this cliffhanger style as you've seen in the Kinda episodes. And we've seen a similar thing in the New multi-part cliffhanger stories. But this "Utopia"/"The Sound of Drums" crisis resolution is way quicker than normal. Oh, yeah. Remember Jack's broken vortex manipulator on his wrist? Well the Doctor fixes it and "with a ZAP they were free". Is there a quicker cliffhanger resolution that we've seen? The Kinda Jack-in-the-Box perhaps. "The Age of Steel" when the Doctor blasts the Cybermen with the TARDIS thing. But time it is so quick that we see the team after the ZAP and only see the resolution in flashback. Now into the episode. The way I understood it, the phone call to Martha's parents was being monitored by the "Sinister Woman" (yep, that is what she is called in the credits) so Martha's "Say Yes" code to her father wasn't going to work anyway. I like the way the "Torchwood" theme plays as Jack talks about what he has been doing on Earth recently. And the line from Harold Saxon about sending Jack's team away - needed otherwise viewers of both shows would wonder why we're not seeing Gwen and company helping. Vivien Rook (the one who died after the interview with the Master's wife) was a journalist working for a newspaper who had found out about Saxon's history - and had arranged to have the information passed to Torchwood posthumously if the interview went badly. Harold Saxon's presence on Earth has been seeded throughout the series - there have been small mentions of his name, we've seen the election posters on walls, etc. But a viewer would only be expected to notice them later as a bonus for rewatching the series.
Andrew Vignaux
2022-06-06 02:52:44 +0000 UTCTo be fair, Chan Tho was killed by Derek Jacobi's version of the Master, it's a little bit of a disconnect when he regenerates. It looks like a different person doing it. Yeah the Doctor's morality can seem alien at times, but the show gives us the companions so we can get a more human point of view. The Doctor wanted to save the Master, but Jack wanted to 'snap his neck'. I think they did a very good job with the look of Gallifrey. This was 2007 TV CGI, so the fact it looks so nice is a good accomplishment! That's a compliment to the costume design! If it just blends in, feels natural, then the costumer designer has done her job. She's a really friendly person! It's really nice to have memorabilia from a show, definitely! I own a Sonic Screwdriver that acts as a TV remote, it's cool. They stopped making them a while ago now though, and they sell for way too much on Ebay.
Matt Lives
2022-06-05 14:32:15 +0000 UTCOhh that´s true. I totally forgot about Chan Tho. Thanks for reminding me, so yeah I guess you´re right. This ship has sailed even before this episode.... And I can understand why the doctor wanted to save him so badly. I really do. I guess the perspectives between the doctor and the viewer are very different when it comes to that decision. Oh thanks for explaining the phone scene, I really didn´t understand it. But it makes so much sense now :D Yes Galifrey looks so beautiful :) Thank you for pointing out the work that went into the costume design. I gotta be honest here. I didn´t pay too much attention to it on this first watch. But I will definately make up for it when I edit the episode for Youtube :) Wow, it´s really cool, that you spoke to the costume designer of Dr. Who :) :) I would loooove to have some replicas and posters and stuff from the show in general...I can´t wait to get to the later series, so that I will be able to visit Dr. Who stores online, without having the fear of beeing spoiled. :)
Nicologik
2022-06-05 09:38:05 +0000 UTCDon´t worry, I´ll watch every minisode if there is one in between series. Andrew always tells me when there is something that I should watch in addition to the "normal" episodes. :) Well in general I do not want to know anything about episodes that I haven´t seen yet. New Who or Classics. Although I tend to not be too strict on that rule for the Classics, I would rather not know, if it´s ok for you? I mean it´s hard for me to say, wether certain infos would ruin my experience, if I don´t know them. Maybe you could write a reply starting with "Possible Spoilers" and I could ask Andrew to read it first. So he can tell me wether the info is too much for me to know, or not :) Thank you for the info about the president issue. I understand that decision now. It makes sense :) Haha I can´t wait for your comments on the next episode either. It´s always so mcuh fun to read them :)
Nicologik
2022-06-05 09:28:46 +0000 UTCHaha thanks for the quick warning :D Thank you for telling me that there will be stuff to recognize in the Classics. I don´t think I´ll recognize certain dialogues right away, but I can always go back to this episode and refresh my memory :) Oh thanks for the info about the president elect. I had no idea what that means, so I guess I had something in common with RTD :D :D Oh, sad to hear that the actor commited suicide. :/
Nicologik
2022-06-05 09:22:07 +0000 UTCI'm going to get very geeky: in the Gallifrey flashback scene,the costumes worn by the Time Lords (the cloaks and the head-dresses) were exact copies of the ones worn by Time Lords in the Classic series - a lovely piece of visual continuity. There are many easter eggs for Classic fans - really too many to mention; but many of the visual details (and even dialogue) is lifted from the old series. You'll undoubtedly recognise them when you come to see them yourself,in due time. The 'President-elect' title was used incorrectly,as RTD has since admitted. He was under the impression that it merely meant that the President had been elected into Office - when it actually means that he hasn't yet been sworn in;and so isn't the President at this moment in time - so there's no reason he should actually be there! You'd think the Script Editor ought to have picked up on that one! A sad piece of trivia - the young lad who played the Master as a child (looking into the untempered schism) would commit suicide a few years later :(
Ian Smith
2022-06-04 17:41:45 +0000 UTCI just wondered if you are intending to watch (or have you already watched) a mini episode of the programme called Time Crash. It was made for a British charity fund-raising show and takes place in between this season's finale and the following Christmas special. I did want to say a couple of things about Classic Who but I can't remember whether you said that would count as a spoiler or not. Especially now you are watching the old stories but not in order. Anyway. to answer your question about "why not be USA president? Doctor Who, being a British programme, is notorious for assuming that all aliens will land in the UK, usually in London but sometimes in Cardiff where the modern series is filmed. So having The Master choosing to take over our country first fits in with the general UK bias. Which us Brits really love. I can't wait for next week when you post the final episode and I can talk about the two shock moments near the end!
Stephen Males
2022-06-04 16:10:17 +0000 UTCThe Master killed Chan Tho in the previous episode, to be fair. He's already crossed the murderer line! I understand why the Doctor wants to save him though. If you were the last human alive, and but then you found another human, even if they were a murderer, I think some sort of instinct inside you would want to 'save' them or keep them safe. The Master had access to every phone, and was talking to Martha over speaker-phone, basically. But when the Doctor spoke, the Master wanted it to be more private, personal. So he picked up the phone. When they recorded the scenes, John Simm and David Tennant were actually talking to each other over the phone, so it was more for the practicality of the scene too. Gallifrey is beautiful in this, definitely. The orange colours and the big glass dome just looks really cool. I really like the Master's suit. The black is very cool. His jacket actually has a purple lining inside, which is really nice. I've spoken via email with the costume designer, Louise Page. She's really nice, the thought she puts in to the costumes in the show is really neat. And finally, the Master's Laser Screwdriver. Such a cool gadget. I'd definitely buy a prop replica of it, the toy I got as a kid is good, but not enough! :P
Matt Lives
2022-06-04 14:46:01 +0000 UTC
