Something important
Added 2023-06-14 00:56:04 +0000 UTCHi! I'm not sure if you saw it on Twitter, so I will be posting it here.
I fucked up. Shouldn't done it, it was stupid and lazy of me.
As you probably notice there few stuff going around about me tracing art and animations. And it's true, I traced several animation.
Why? No good reason, really. Felt lazy, felt like I could get away with it. Wanted to cut corners with it, didn't wanna do anything. It doesn't matter, there's no excuse for what I've done.
I want to apologize to everyone who got effected by that. I apologize for people who trusted me and supported me. I'm sorry for lying and being disappointment to you. I'm disappointed in myself as well. It was dishonest, bad and stupid. And I'm sorry.
I've already reached out to most of the artists who I stole from to apologize personally. I will be deleting all traced animations.
I haven't traced all of the animations I've made, but I traced a lot. And it has to stop.
Thank you for people who actually discovered it (I mean it). Shouldn't have done any of it at the first place and won't do it again.
Patreon page will be working as usual (minus the tracing), and the rewards will be posted every month.
Comments
Same wtf
Funk Phunkerton
2023-11-12 07:30:04 +0000 UTCI’m just waiting to see the work haven’t gotten any messages even though I’ve been a member for more than 48 hours
BUILD A WALL OF REVEALING LIGHT
2023-08-23 02:04:03 +0000 UTCTo be honest I don’t really care I still choose to support and enjoy your work
Ricky smith
2023-07-05 03:44:14 +0000 UTCGood on you owning up :) I’ll still b supporting you !
Jus10
2023-06-18 00:19:22 +0000 UTCHaving been a supporter since 2021, this saddens me. I heard rumors of you tracing art in the past, but I dismissed them, giving you the benefit of the doubt. You coming out and confessing is admirable, whether of your own accord or not, but to lie to your patrons and to steal from other artists is unforgivable, and I'm afraid I can no longer continue to support someone that does that. I don't condone your actions in any capacity, and it hurts both us and those artists. We all make mistakes, and I understand the art-world is extremely competitive, but there are always other options. I do sincerely wish you luck, and hope that you make better decisions in the future.
JJ1997
2023-06-16 19:16:31 +0000 UTCOk that makes sense to me now.
Expression
2023-06-16 14:41:24 +0000 UTC-This is a translated sentence- The tracing list that used to be 9->12 is now cleared. The list someone is creating currently has 25 tracing lists created. I understand the feeling of being embarrassed and wanting to hide it, but the more you do, the deeper your suspicions are. The problem with tracing is that there is absolutely no benefit to the original artist. Solving this problem is simple. Disclose the artists you traced and promote them to your fans. If you let them benefit too, it can get out of unilateral theft. Build a symbiotic relationship. There are people who get angry because you have a one-sided and unfair relationship. Building a symbiotic relationship removes any reason to be angry. I hope you make a wise decision
ppa
2023-06-16 08:49:51 +0000 UTC-This is a translated sentence- The biggest difference between tracing is that it does not benefit the original artist. derivative works artists, game YouTubers, etc. can be active because they have a symbiotic relationship. It increases the lifespan of content and creates an influx of population. However, tracing does not benefit the original artist at all. It only steals unilaterally. In this respect, it is worse than illegal sharing sites.
ppa
2023-06-16 08:17:38 +0000 UTCi try to stay off twitter for my own sanity but congrats on to you for owning up to it and not hiding from it or denying it. Edit: ok i went to twitter for the other side and in typical twitter fashion i don't agree with them I agree that what you did was wrong but the amount of unaffected people telling you you should delete all of your stuff and restart which is extremely ridiculous. I looked at the document where they compiled they evidence and i can definitely see that tracing was done but I can also see that to me a non artist it just looks like drew your own art and put them in the same position or animation loop as the traced animation. To me the non artist it looks to me like you did everything yourself but just copied the positions and frames for the animation loop so i don't really know what the super issue is aside from it being morally wrong. I get that its technically taking frames someone else did and passing it off as your own but its your own art just in that animation position. can you or someone else in the comments explain to me how this is different from using lets say a Nintendo character in an animation? Its the same principal of the original not being yours but you use your own artstyle to recreate it. Are people mostly upset because you make alot from patreon comparative to the people who were traced or is there a deeper reasoning I'm missing beyond its technically plagiarism?
Expression
2023-06-16 02:05:40 +0000 UTC🩵
CHEETRA VIEW
2023-06-15 22:06:17 +0000 UTCSo that’s why everything disappeared…
chong punnavit
2023-06-14 20:53:57 +0000 UTCDon't delete anything, you're overreacting. Stop acting like tracing is illegal, it isn't. I know that tracing is frowned upon by artists but that doesn't take away from the fact animation is a lot of work, traced or not. I don't blame you for wanting to cut corners and make the process easier. There is no need to apologise to artists either because you didn't 'steal' their work. A general apology to fans is fine, it doesn't even need to be public, something like: "I'm sorry I traced, it won't happen again." You can leave it at that and nothing more, you have already done enough. Time to move on and continue as normal. Twitter has built a culture of the 'shame mob' as soon as they realise somebody has made a mistake they become an 'other' and no apology will ever be good enough. So stop beating yourself up over something blown into a bigger problem than it needs to be. Sending virtual hugs your way.🤗
SoddingGit
2023-06-14 06:07:23 +0000 UTCWont say its just alright, its not okay to trace art but hopefully itll be a learning point. I really like your art but hearing the truth get told is kind of disappointing, maybe a little more. I wanna see you make art you wanna make without bothering yourself with quotas, especially if it means its the real good stuff. But until then i hope you truly make the amends and improvements you need to. Definitely only ever a lurker but just thought itd be worth to say something considering my choice to pick a higher tier. Whichever way it goes, i wish you the best of luck
Ruka Ruka
2023-06-14 04:00:14 +0000 UTCI know you can do better and learn from your mistakes. Im looking forward to future animations
GungleJym
2023-06-14 02:51:18 +0000 UTCPlebs cry about tracing without understanding how much more work and skill is required on top of it. Trying to defend yourself is pointless, but know you have at least one person here who doesn't think less of you in the slightest.
Dandere
2023-06-14 02:44:09 +0000 UTCDid that!
maenchu
2023-06-14 02:31:24 +0000 UTCYeah it sucks but this will be a good learning experience.
The Judge
2023-06-14 02:21:41 +0000 UTCJust to add to stuff already said on here and discord, you 100% need to make sure this posts public, post a full list of works traced and original source (this ones most important cause if you don’t or omit traced works you risk being called disingenuous). I have faith you can win back trust
Mack Harris
2023-06-14 02:21:38 +0000 UTCI would say that you can be proud that you did own up to it at the end of it when others choose otherwise. So despite clearly being in the wrong, I would say I forgive you, focus on making more original parts for the content and take this as a lesson to learn from.
Forestisaname
2023-06-14 02:11:09 +0000 UTCThank you for responding to this! Hope everything goes well forward!!
Hori
2023-06-14 02:08:27 +0000 UTCTotally understand you and thank you.
maenchu
2023-06-14 02:02:50 +0000 UTCOnly gets better from here mae
bakaslayer
2023-06-14 01:39:20 +0000 UTCNot condoning what was done in any way, but it is admirable that you owned up to it. Most of the time, it seems to get swept under the rug while they continue to do whatever they want. But you personally reached out to followers every way imaginable to tell them about what you did. Your apology sounds like this wasn't something you did confidently, but out of weakness. I won't berate you, (there are plenty enough voices doing that already) nor will I puppy-dog turn a blind eye to what happened and say it's okay. But the steps you're taking show you're recognizing the wrongs and taking steps to fix them. Those are good first steps.
Phoe
2023-06-14 01:36:08 +0000 UTCI was sad when I saw this on twitter because you’re the first person I ever subscribed here on patreon… Well, I guess everyone makes mistakes, it’s really bad, I’m pretty sure my opinion doesn’t have any impact, but if you honestly and from your heart promise this won’t happen again, I’m ready to give you a second chance. Everyone deserves it, and if you promise, Im more than happy to move on from this
Daniel Cônsolo
2023-06-14 01:20:06 +0000 UTCokay cool! your art is still amazing traced or not. I enjoy it. don’t get discouraged by all this happening. this is a learning experience and you’ll only get better from here on out !! your fans love you.
tropical frosty
2023-06-14 01:13:07 +0000 UTCSuper disappointed dude. You have amazing talent, too, but used it to trace. The very least you could do is credit is credit people you traced (lots from @MurPraxis on Twitter). Good luck weathering the storm you manifested.
Allister
2023-06-14 01:12:16 +0000 UTCNo-no, Patreon will be running as usual. I will be continuing making animation (AND not trace anything anymore).
maenchu
2023-06-14 01:11:21 +0000 UTCTo be honest I don't give a shit if you did . Like its good you own up to it, but as a non artist pov I don't care. I still like your art.
SSJ3CORVO
2023-06-14 01:09:07 +0000 UTCGlad you owned up! but what does this mean for me. This is my first time buying your patreon is it gonna be shut down for awhile? Did I just waste money for it to be closed?
tropical frosty
2023-06-14 01:03:15 +0000 UTCIt's all good. Tbh I don't really roam twitter. Very rarely do I go in there. Anything animation that comes out of you I watch. I don't really nitpick on stuff. But I do get what you mean. Sorry bout it all
Alex J Rios
2023-06-14 01:02:09 +0000 UTC
