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No tierlist for this patch guys.

No real point in patch tierlist this patch since so much new things and hard to say exactly what you should play, instead ill just say what ive tried and what i think is good / worth trying.

Vladimir Chogath with AP HP items, demonic embrace sounds very good.
Twisted fate with everfrost changes is very good, very cheap build now. ,maybe even glacial.

Crown item seems strong vs champs that cant procc it easily ( VERY BAD VS MAGES )

first strike karthus good, on other champs seems not so good.

Cassiopeia with riftmaker, archangel staff demonic cosmic drive etc seems strong.

In general mages seem more tanky now.

Syndra ( and champs similar ) should jujst buy ludens/everfrost/liandry voidstaff rabadons, no more archangels imo.

Fimbulwinter ryze maybeeee , not sure yet.

what u guys think?

Comments

Which build is better on Akshan, Crit or On-hit?

Taylor Sparkman

How do you feel about Fiddlesticks right now? Also do you think predator would be best, or dark harvest?

i think its really good on ori imo

Semiba

i have been seeing some players stopped building dorans ring as start item and prefers saphires crystal for a lost chapter fast recall, should we start doing this on mages? also works on sylas, lissandra, malz, etc..? or should we keep buying dorans ring as start item?

Moises Domínguez

glacial rell ive seen a bit, doesnt seem weak atleast. azir not sure

Veigar v2

heca noct seems strong, kindred good answer into those, not sure if theres anything really OP in jg that isnt those 2 or something else thats known tbh.

Veigar v2

Do you think Azir with lethal tempo and Rell with glacial could work? How do you feel about engage supports going glacial in general actually?

Any jungle picks that you recommend? Not sure what's strong right now. Hecarim seems even stronger now with winter's approach. full clear back, get boots + tear and ideally you just scale for free, any thoughts?

havent played veigar yet, i didnt finish archangels before anyways, build should still be mythic > void / raba > raba/void into whatever the fuck, should still buy tear early for lane.

Veigar v2

depends on gold on my bases, if i base and have exact for tear and lane is very afk like for example galio, tryndamere etc i think tear is good, but in a contested lane like zoe i think every bit of AP helps

Veigar v2

Would you still just sit on a tear on champs like Syndra for the extra mana, even if you would just sell it later instead of upgrading?

What build are you going atm ?

Is it worth buying Seraphs on Veigar now that it gives AH / Healing / some HP?

vlad unlosable lategame but still suffers same problems like gg at 15m

Taric with Winter's is kinda poggers solo lane.

Stellarr

What do you think about Yone/Yasuo bot with Lethal Tempo?


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