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Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King P1

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Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King P1

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play DnD if you want fireball every 2 seconds

Vegvisir92

TBF the only other possessors have been Sauron & Men until that point, not Hobbits...

Skebaba

Magic casting has always been lame as hell in this series, ngl

Karl Wikman

I feel the need to point out that as quickly as the ring seemed to corrupt him in the movie, Smeagol never became truly enslaved by it. Others who had it as long as Smeagol did would have long since become servants of Sauron or be manipulated into bringing the ring to him. Instead Smeagol kept the Ring away from the world for generations.

Joel Sasmad

When she's talking generally I assume it's to Twitch chat, not Patreon comments, but I understand links on the internet a sketchy at the best of times, which is why I used a watch code instead, since the worst you can get from that is a rickroll.

David Bodor

We don't post links, links are cringe -AliciaxDeath before every reaction video

EthanEverhart

this kind of thing is part of the good side of having the general trivia section on the left side on prime video stuff, with the trivia thing saying (approximate quote) "Christopher Lee assured Peter Jackson that he knew what a man sounded like when stabbed in the back"

NickAsNickName

Additional little fact, he ate tomatoes on said plates which definitely caused issues. People used to think tomatoes were poisonous for a long time, because their acid was just enough to dissolve lead from pewter dishware and give diners an extra large dose.

Jason Ramey

21:20 - Okay but now Alicia has to react to the Saruman Trololo version of this scene, it's like ancient meme culture. I don't know if we're allowed to post links, but it is this placed after the usual youtube URL. watch?v=KaqC5FnvAEc

David Bodor

Of all the changes from book to screen, that one is undoubtedly the worst. They get split up anyway during the chaos in the tunnel, they didn't have to pull fake drama from nowhere!

David Schaefer

Pulling the "I'll just make the sound I heard in person" is quite badass

Rhodair

Yeah I can understand cutting content for time, but that is one sequence I cannot comprehend why they left out entirely.

ChaosSepher

I largely think the Theatrical release is a more economical, better paced version of the movies. But the scene with Saruman really is indispensable. His absence was very distracting, when I first saw the movie.

Sawnderz

the witch king in the books has no chance against gandalf, especially an upgraded version of him from eru iluvitar. That's maybe the one thing that kills me about any of the movies but I understand the tension and drama peter jackson was using with him.

Jason Levi Doner

I'm so excited, I've been waiting : 👏

Cameron Jones

i wouldn't mind forgetting them.

shattermelon

It's funny saying Orlando Bloom has more speaking lines, because most of them were cut from the theatrical version

Mike Green

In the books the Palantiri or "Seeing Stones" are basically one part magical telescope/spy satellite, one part zoom call. They allowed for instant communication between the towers where they were kept during the height of the earlier kingdoms of men, but in the latter age they've mostly been lost and most importantly Sauron has control of one and because of his immense magical power he can look through the one HE has and see anything (and thus influence ANYONE) within view of any of the OTHER Palantiri. This backfires in the books though because they're the only form of instant communication, and so when he sees Pippin staring through Saruman's Palantir, he assumes Saruman captured Pippin and made him look through to torment the hobbit and show him off to Sauron. So he sends out Nazgul to retrieve his prize from Isengard...and in the process is thoroughly distracted from the hobbit he REALLY wants to find, now looking far afield instead of right under his nose in Mordor. Having Pippin get a vision of Minas Tirith works well enough as a way to move things along in the movie while keeping things simpler and more condensed.

Linnaeus

Little fact, Denethor eats on Pewter plates which probably severly contributed to his mental decline.

FellwindXCII

So its pretty funny but of our group of hobbits Sam is the only one who isn't actual family to everyone else Merry and Pippin are Frodos younger cousins and they're also cousins to each other I'm pretty sure they also had a 5th friend who helped them out in leaving the shire that was left out of the films

Daniel Gonzalez

I can't believe Alicai height checked our boy Billy Butcher

Levi Price

Someone's probably said it but fun fact, during the scene when Saruman got stabbed peter jackson wrote the he should shriek in pain but Christopher Lee, having fought in WWII had seen men die from being back stabbed and told Jackson that we stabbed in the back men don't yell out but rather the breath leaves them in shock. Needless to say Jackson went with that instead.

Shadowsofpain

to be fair his death is different in the books

Ramba_Ya

YES! The legendary conclusion is finally here!

Arian Khalil

it was annoying, seeing the theatrical cut of this film - just for saruman's fate to remain unseen in that lol. had to wait a few months after already experiencing this finale to watch the extended edition at home on dvd

Yagi di Hoshi

it was weird waiting like a few months into 2004 to find out what happened to saruman after all that build up, lol

Yagi di Hoshi

what REALLY fucks me up, is that sam had said before in earnest that he was rationing their food. And then because Frodo asked. Explained it was for the journey home.

Able

She's having problem with names now... wait till she meets Thorin's company. -my sister.

Jimify

Don't forget the Hobbit movies Alicia!

MajestNick

Finishing off the year with a banger

Grumbledor .

The "You need moisturizer" Orc was supposed to be modeled after noted hollywood shitbag Harvey Weinstein as a "fuck you"

Simulacrae

share the LOAD.......

Yagi di Hoshi

*and prayer's, but only as many as I have living sons.

Speed1247

Cause it is a one of movie and shorter, way easier to digest and sit through than another trilogy right after

Craig

0:55:00 I’m with you there, “steward” said it like it was a slur didn’t he? 😂

Ben Gross

I'm also surprised because no one seems to care it's even out. I don't think a lot of people are clamoring for a reaction to it.

Kevin Bell

"The beacon are lit. Gondor calls for aid." "And Rohan will answer." Sends a Note to Gondor: "My thoughts are with you."

Simon

Aragorn is in his eighties. Much of what Gandalf has done in life had already faded from memory before Aragorn's grandfather's grandfather was born. The fact that he calls him "Young Master Gandalf" puts Treebeard's perception of time in an interesting light.

SweetCandle

I will never see a better trilogy in my lifetime.

Loken

to be fair to Denethor, his family the Stewards of Gondor have been ruling Gondor for nearly 2000 years. So to him whose family has been keeping the realm safe for all that time to hear about what to him might seem like a homeless drifter with no real established background is the true king and he should just give up the reins of power to this drifter would seem kinda absurd.

Random3x

Still better father than Sanji's father

Jakub Fabian

Bit about the Palantir the orb Saruman liked to ponder (literally where that meme comes from btw), Pipin screwing around with it and being saved by Aragon is actually a major point in the books. Because Sauron knew the ring was with a hobbit, and what does he see through the Palantir but a hobbit being escorted by the true heir of Gondor. Sauron never in his wildest dreams could ever imagine a man ever letting the ring out of his grasp let alone a future king. So him seeing Pippin through the Palantir laser focused his attention on Pippin and Gondor. Which ironically opened the way more for Frodo and Sam the true bearers.

Random3x

His experience in ww2 was also as part of the SAS, the British unit of airborne commandos, who'd be dropped behind enemy lines for raids on German supply hubs and assassinations of high-ranking officers and the like, before racing back to friendly lines in jeeps before the enemy could regroup to catch them. It's not been disclosed what missions Sir Christopher Lee has partaken in, but undoubtedly he has been in situations where he had to put a knife in some poor bloke's or not-so-poor officer's back

Yuul B Alwright

I'm surprised war of rohirm is next and not the hobbit

Artemis

by the way the hobbit movies is the prequel

musky and moist Mike

this movie has one of the greatest OSTs and cinematic sequences in the history of cinema. easy top 5 favs of all time for me

Jacob Vogelsang

According to an interview with the director, Jackson was blocking a scene in which Wormtongue (Brad Dourif) stabs Saruman (Lee) in the back. Jackson goes into a long explanation about how he wants the Actor Christopher Lee to react and Lee says, "Have you any idea what kind of noise happens when somebody’s stabbed in the back? Because I do.” Lee was a veteran of World War II, then, after the war, he was a spy who hunted naz1s all 9ver the world and then it was knighted as a lord. The man surely stabbed a lot of people like that in his life. Rip sir Christopher Lee

Faroth

Afaik the term "Weed" for a certain other thing you smoke specifically comes from Tolkien coming up with the term "Pipe weed" for tobacco for LotR. he didn't want to use Tobacco, since it wouldn't be appropriate for the mythological/Saga inspired Middle-Earth (which is, similar to conan, for example, a "before our time" mythical earth), so he called it "pipe weed". LotR became popular with (ironically, and to Tolkien's bewilderment, since he was a conservative catholic) the anti-establishment, rebellious left, and they then started to use the term for, well, "weed". He specifically calls it "tobacco" twice in the LotR Books.

The Silent One

Regarding Theoden's speech to Saruman, where he mentiones the men that got chopped before the doors of the Hornburg... in the novel, he specicially mentions that that's what happened to Hama (the gatekeeper to Meduseld, the Great Hall) who, in the movie, gets killed during the warg attack.

The Silent One

Everytime I see Karl Urban in something, I just have this brain tic that hears him talking as Billy Butcher. "Oi, Gandalf. Sarumon done mind controlled me uncle, and tried to nick me kingdom. Now I say, we head down to that tower, and give that **** a right bollocking. You in?" Edit: Uncle, not dad.

Technical_Analysis

21:20 it's also poetic that he died by the hands of someone he manipulated and ON THE WHEELS of machinery they taughted as their greatest boon

Silver Blade

Soo happy it's back! I have always seen the ring as a great metaphor for addiction. It can destroy relationships, physical heath and mental stability. Pippin wasn't corrupted, he's just being his curious self that can't help it. lol Pipe weed is meant as tobacco as Tolkien was a pipe smoker. You can almost understand Elrond not wanting Arwen staying more when you know that he has lost a lot of people that he cared about in his life. Parents, brother, and his wife left long ago. His sons stay in Rivendell when he leaves.

Zip The Turtle

I'm gonna squee bro. Omfg

Seroili

I’ve been waiting for you to finish LoTR, Thanks Alicia!

Jack

Been waiting so long for this reaction.

Kap

Wow young dumb me didn't get the symbolism. Sam points out the statue has a been crowned. And it is a crown of flowers like the ones that are said to bloom when a king is crowned in gondor. And we know aragorn is the next in line

Craig

Just to clarify, Gandalf DID die, but he’s what’s known as Maiar. The Maiar are like celestial servants to the Valar, and by extension Eru Illuvatar (God). The Maiar are basically angels. When Gandalf died, he was sent back to Middle Earth to finish his task there, tho this time he went back as the new White Wizard since Saruman technically gave up that title when he chose to ally with Sauron the Deceiver. Eru Illuvatar is God, the Valar are like his children and the Maiar are their servants. Sauron is also of the Maiar and served the Valar known as Aulë the Smith, which is how he came to be so good at crafting and forging rings.

nelson pederson

Quick comment early on in the recording: The wizards are 5 angelic spirits that have been hosued in the appearances of old men and sent from the undying lands to middle earth early on in the 3rd age to provide counsel and leadership to the free peoples in their battle against Sauron. Gandalf DID sacrifice himself in movie 1. He died. He was sent back by Eru Iluvatar (God) to continue his mission.

GaimeGuy

The ring is a great allegory for drugs, Andy Circus the actor who played gollum even said that Smegol is like a ring junkie he’d do anything for another hit

Leonheart009

Every time I watch the lighting of the beacons, I wonder what poor soul pissed off Denethor enough to get sent in the middle of nowhere in the EXTREMELY off-chance that the beacon MIGHT have to be lit. Also, Smeagol would be fantastic at Among Us. He won that 50-50 so hard.

Some Guy on the Internet

And he actually made plans for the defense of Minas Tirith. Having already called the banners and lit the beacons before Gandalf arrived. Only truly breaking, IIRC, when he sees the black ships are on their way. I still remember the moment he cast his robes aside and shows that he is constantly wearing chainmail, and is ready for war. Like, Denethor in the books is a dick, but I get his point of view on the matter of Gandalf and Aragorn, and I think his fall is incredibly tragic, because he is someone who has been fighting this war his entire life, and now stand at the precipice of losing everything.

Ebofa

I've never heard anyone call Boromir "B-dawg" before. I love it

Crescent Method

So just for reference, Saruman’s death was skipped in the cut version, he and Grima had no screen time in that one and they cut to pippin finding the seeing stone. The extended version is so good it is hard to believe it wasn’t in theaters.

Yaboi7117

11 oscars, btw :D.

leviathan_13

I just want to say for the record, they are smoking tobacco, not weed.

Daniel Morgan

49:50 pokemon gym got me good 😂😂

Taka

I swear to god, every time I watch this movie myself I have to skip the scene on the stair. It hurts me viscerally to watch. ;_;

dz1jgmeyer

YYYEEESSSSS!!!!!

Zip The Turtle

Just the serotonin boost I needed💕 So freaking excited for this!

NekoSoophie!

AHHHHHHHH FINALLY THE RETURN OF LOTR!!!!

Craig

It's Tobacco, not weed.

Captain-Kerfuffle

Thanks for the making the year more bearable!! You’re energy and passion you put into your content does not go unnoticed or unappreciated🙏

issho!

Certainly didn't help that Denethor literally went mad from grief over Boromir.

Captain-Kerfuffle

He also had a palantir, like the one Saruman used, and he was using it to "spy" on the enemy, only for the enemy to purposely show him visions of hopelessness and despair, constantly withering his mind down until he broke.

SouthHill

The only consolation I can give in regard to Faramir’s treatment is that the people of Gondor hold him in the highest regard. It’s too bad his father is such a shit he can’t see it.

JRWins

For clarity, whether or not Merry wanted to go, they had no choice. Gandalf needed to get to Minas Tirith ASAP, so they couldn't be slowed.

dz1jgmeyer

Not just the trenches, he was a literal spy and spec ops operative!

dz1jgmeyer

When Denethor said "Yes. I wish that." in the theater when this first premiered in 2003, my dad blurted out "What an asshole!" and I was trying so hard not to laugh and heard someone else yell "Yeah!" xD

SNESgirl

While this is a good explanation for Denethor's madness, there's are other reasons given by the books. Despair and Loss: Denethor faced overwhelming despair as Gondor was besieged by Sauron's forces. He lost his son Boromir, which deeply affected him. His other son, Faramir, was gravely wounded, further compounding his sense of hopelessness. The Palantír: Denethor used a seeing-stone, or Palantír, which allowed him to perceive events in distant lands. However, this also exposed him to Sauron's influence. Sauron manipulated what Denethor saw, leading him to believe that Gondor was doomed. Pride and Isolation: As a proud ruler, Denethor became increasingly isolated, refusing to seek help or listen to counsel. This pride, coupled with his despair, led him to a fatalistic view of the world, causing him to abandon hope in the face of dire circumstances. Fear of Power Loss: Denethor feared losing his power and legacy, especially in light of Aragorn's return and claim to the throne. This fear contributed to his mental decline, as he felt threatened by the possibility of change.

Niravathu

sam mentioning bilbos book there and back again is such a nice callback and a reference

teatus

I waited her comment about Butcher on the second movie already, but she didn't so I was disappointed 😅

V_VMat

Alicia, you should check out the "Christopher Lee corrects Peter Jackson on set" very short video on youtube

Joker33

Gandalf actually did die against the Balrog, but the creator of the world sent him back to finish his task.

Mariusale

*spongebob screams* YES!!!

Mister Taffy

id Denethor has no haters, i am dead. what a shit father

mld-Drake

1:32:52 Pewter plates and cups commonly used by the rich. Acid from tomatoes, grapes, and wine leaching the lead from them with each bite and sip. Symptoms high concentration lead poisoning are as follows; irritability, headaches, mental dullness and attention difficulty, memory loss, tremors, and hallucinations.

Trevor Appel

Fun facts! Deagol and Smeagol are cousins. The murder of a cousin is called sobrinicide if it's a maternal cousin (which I believe in this case it was, because the river folk lived in a matriarchy) or patruelicide if it's a paternal cousin.

Nikolaus Trixner

I guess I'll be watching this all day tomorrow it's a double xp weekend right now.

Myrddin Wylit

There's shifts and reliefs involved.

Mechamage

ty i had no idea

Pixel King

I thought Alicia clicked on Karl Urban's character profile cause she recognised him from The Boys as Billy Butcher, but she did not comment on that at all, so I am not sure if she knows lol EDIT: NVM, she mentions it immediately after

Shank Mugen

Well I was gonna be productive today

Rowdeemunkee

YES 🎉🎉🎉🎉

Scrubthulhu

Denethor is one of my favorite characters in the books. There is just so much nuance to him. And while I understand why they had to make some changes to make the story flow and not make it be a 10 hour long movie, I do miss it. Firstly, while he still favors Boromir, he isn´t as insanely hostile to Faramir as he is here. But he also someone who loved his people. Who fought for Gondor with everything he got until he was driven mad with despair and grief.

Ebofa

Going to be making a commentary while I watch and edit this whenever there's something I want to say: 8:32 You think this is a happy story? Hah... 24:00 I thought you paused because you recognized the actor from somewhere else 😅 (That elsewhere being The Boys) 24:41 nevermind, you knew him 😂 48:10 It's just smiths remaking a sword and yet it's a very powerful scene! 54:00 Just like Theoden said in the 2nd movie, "No parent should have to bury their child" 1:16:50 "Dammit, I'm not crying" (you are) [One of the epic scenes in this film] 1:39:43 Damn right he is! 1:40:00 Well ain't this first part just sunshine and rainbows, nothing bad happening at all... /s

V_VMat

Bad news the enemy knows everything Pippin knows, Good news Pippin doesn't know shit

MenacingScone

It's a late Christmas gift!! Thank you Alicia!

Wildstar

btw the whole exchange with Saruman and his death was just skipped in the original theatrical release of film and only added for the extended version. and Sir Christopher Lee boycotted the premiere in protest, because he had been the main villain the the whole Rohan story arc and they just went "eh he's not an important character for the third movie lets just have Gandalf say 'he has no power anymore' and be done with it"

Nick

I imagine they have shifts and take turns.

Starchaser

Can we talk about it what a bad job it is to sit on a mountain and wait so many years, so that you can make a fire at the right moment? How much pay them for this job?

Sabo

It’s like a Pokémon stadium 😂 I can’t unsee that now 😂😂😂

Uncle Urdnot

Personally i would like to nominate myself for a history lesson on Middle Earth, Free of Charge. Maybe

Bradley Canning

Let’s goooooo! Been waiting for this one!!

John Playstation

Worst dad ever

Moviejunkie

I think she said she was going to watch the Hobbit as well in the intro for Fellowship of the Ring

Alex Welford

Christopher Lee, Saruman, was such a real one in his death scene. Peter Jackson, the director, talked about how he was talking to Lee about how he would scream out when he got stabbed in the back. Sir Lee said something like “have you ever seen someone get stabbed in the back? Because I have. You don’t scream, it’s more of a gasp as the air is driven from your lungs” My man fought in the trenches so he had to educate his silly young director.

PotterBrony

Yes, great movie, and btw that anime movie was great aswell, too bad that the marketing was poor, if more people knew it was coming out I feel like it would have better reviews. But it still great movie/anime, with quality comparable to the Hobbit movies.

Filip

This film has so many parts that make me tear up. Not always sad cry, not always happy cry.

Jonathan Canfield

how old is gandalf again? 3000 years? 6000 years? something along those lines .. and boromirs father has the audacity to question gandalfs wisdom? and treebeard calls him "young gandalf"? xD

Cyrill Attakpah

LFG!

Austin

John Noble, the guy who played the asshole daddy, is SUCH a good actor. He was absolutely amazing in the TV show Fringe where he had to play both the extremes of morality for good and evil.

Kinji

So about Hobbits dying, studio wanted one of them, Merry or Pippin, to die to rise the stakes. They didn't see reason for all four Hobbits to survive. Boromir and Faramirs father, Steward guy, in books he used Palandir to see what Sauron was planning for years. He held his mind against Saurons where Saruman succumbed. Yet all these deeds left his mind more broken each time, he might not been front lines but his mind got scarred and became worn out until he is man spending his time in shadows. This is something that i learned recently: Sam is servant of Baggins, a Gardener. It has been so that they have relationship of employer and employee, as well as old caste system. Frodo still has that lingering line of friendship and a master towards Sam during this adventure. Sam serves as a servant and as a friend no matter what!

Kampela

20:25 Originally they were going to have him Scream out as he was stabbed and thrown off the tower, But due to... Certain reasons, The actor playing Saruman questioned them about how much they knew about the sounds people make when stabbed in the back... They decided not to press the issue with the man who'd literally done it before and settled for the choked-gasp and silent fall.

Chibi Potate

Let's goooooo my favorite movie !

WillGlacier

This might be the first time I see the whole movie. I've tried twice. Each time I always did it with a GF and as the movie plays on we end up finding something better to do.. if you catch my meaning.

YukoValis

Yes woman! Finally

Robert Traeger

Denethor had a Palantir from which Sauron was slowly corrupting him and driving him mad with visions... Add to that the guild he felt for basically sending Boromir to his death. And Denethors wife's health started to deteriorate after she gave birth to Faramir and she died 5 years after his birth at the young age of 38. She was of Númenórean blood like Aragon so she could have had a long life.

RedRam-Ipsen

hurray!! this is gonna be so great :D

KuroOberon

/shorts/1hd9Pfc2oN4

Cyrill Attakpah

there is this one youtube short where the actors of merry an pippin have a podcast an one says to the other "did you know that LOTR is pg 13? that means in every movie wie could have said exactly one swear word..... where would you put it?" - "when sean bean says that they have a cave troll" "THEY HAVE A FUCKING CAVE TROLL" xDDDD or "i am really fucking sorry gandalf" when he touches the bucket that falls in the pit xD

Cyrill Attakpah

The entire scene with Saruman was cut for the theatrical btw, Cristo0her Lee was very unhappy when he found out during the premier of the movie

Randomocity732

I wake up to pee and see this, can't go back to bed

Northern Indiana

Fun fact: Peter Jackson actually wanted Saruman to have a dramatic death scream. But Christopher Lee convinced him that this was unrealistic because of his experience as an essentially life James Bond. And another fun fact: Christopher Lee is the only one in the cast of Lord of the Rings who met Tolkin.

Fewur

LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Billy Green

when i first watched the trilogy, i was like there is no way each next movie will top the last and i was proven wrong. 3 is my all time favorite movie

DankusMemes

My favorite VTuber reacting to my favorite film of my favorite film trilogy!!! I really hope your going to react to the Hobbit trilogy as well!!

masteroftheassassins

Let's gooo!!

Bob

Alicia, why are you posting it at this time of night?!

TheBigFinish

Yeesss! On my night offfff!!

Kriscerosaurus

its 4 am and im about to watch this instead of sleepin lets gooo

William Smith

Ohhhh yhhhhhhhhh!!!! Wooooo hoooooo

jason remy

Yeah lets gooooo... After I wake up

Chanfyr

Oh yeeeeeah, baby! Back to da KING!

Sanric

OH MY GOD! Everybody calm dowm! ITS HAPPENING!

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