Ant-Man and the Wasp

I always think his character in Justified

Ryan Bradley

Baba Yaga (granny Yaga) is just a scary old witch in a weird house that cooks children in a soup. I'm really sick of Hollywood movies turning her into a combo of Slenderman and Cthulhu. There are much more cool and scary characters in Russian folklore than her.

Starchaser

Man everytime I see and hear Walton Goggins now all I hear is Cecil from Invincible

Hexx Gear

Yeah that's fair. With my original reasoning you could argue that guardians 2 was centred on starlord so it's flawed for sure. Thanks for pointing that out.

Thomas Wilkins

The reason why they skipped is because they didnt rights for making the stand alone hulk movie. Atleast that is what I heard but that doesn't makes it less sucky with how it was set up in infinity war and it just happenes in end game. Really unsatisfying.

Sage of All knowing

I can’t talk for the other movies cause I haven’t seen them. But the context of that quote is Amy loudly proclaiming (something like) “I, a woman, can play soccer just like the men!” When yeah, that undermines the message, where if she just ya know, played soccer there’d be nothing wrong. In the context of this movie Hope is literally just a woman doing things, she didn’t do anything stupid like “take that men, I can do stuff too!” she’s just. A woman doing things for the plot. (I know you said it’s not bad in this movie but I’m going off of the only example I have, I guess I’ll see how I feel after watching the next few movies)

Mantis

The thing is that the "truth" is kinda subjective. If a person sees something and misinterprets it, then what they're saying may not be correct, but they aren't lying either.

N00B

Additional additional note: "Tardigrade" is not a single species. There are actually countless different species of Tardigrades that specialize in different conditions. Additionally^3 : They, along with all organisms that can survive conditions otherwise considered inhospitable are referred to as "extremophiles".

N00B

I think its more of a missed potential thing with him. Where he ended up is great imo, but his developement would have been really interesting to see, especially if they analysed his split psyche as well as they did in Moon Knight.

N00B

Guardians 3 doesn't count. James Gunn was always interested in Rocket as a focus and built up his story in unintrusive but effective ways in the first two movies. And even if he didn't, the movies are called "Guardians of the Galaxy". They're all the protagonists.

N00B

I think the Knuckles quote comes to mind. Focusing on the women like this undermines equality and diversity by not only treating them as an exception, but going out of their way to compare them to the make counterparts. I think its not a big deal here since Scott's story is done anyway and he still gets some moments to shine, but it is far more egregious in later movies.

N00B

He punches ghost girl in the face as a giant lol. For the most part Scotts character is built up. So giving other people a chance to shine stops movies from treading the same ground. Be it male, female, black, white etc.

YukoValis

You are welcome. : ) I mean with all respect, if you are going to share your viewpoint on an open forum it kind of invites conversation.

YukoValis

Youre free to disagree, but this, in my opinion, is around the time that marvel starts to over-write their female characters and sort of push aside some of their male characters, I agree, Scott is less experienced than Hope in combat but still experienced enough that he should be having some screen time fighting people in this movie. also sometimes they just flat out make bad movies and a tv show or two because of it.

Draconic

I remember thinking of this film as ok when I saw it in theaters but I actually had a really good time with this rewatch! Still not amazing but really good, like gone from a 6.5 to a 7.5 for me.

Alexander Holsinger

They're two different characters, and mainline Marvel Pym hit her one time in an edgy comic that bad writers have been dragging out for decades. Ultimate universe Pym is a different story. That guy deserves hate, but then almost everyone on that team was an awful person.

Hugh Mungus

The way I see it, Scott’s story is basically done. He is complete as a character. He has been reduced to comedic sidekick because there is nothing to develop from him

Bowman C.

I wouldn't go so far as to say they used Scott as a stair for Hope, both characters were exactly as was established in the first movie, Hope just has a super suit now. Just because Scott had less action scenes (which I do think they could have done more of) doesn't mean he was "shelved." He had a LOT of screen time and character development, they just weren't as badass moments as Hope. Sure maybe if you only care about action scenes you'd say Scott was pushed aside, but I bet you if you timed each of their screen times Scott would be WAY more. While the movie isn't amazing, I just don't see this as "girl power" pandering. That's just my thoughts on it though

Mantis

He does have a massive ego that gets him in trouble a lot but he always tries to make up for it granted in very weird ways I remember his biggest hate moment came when he beat his wife shocked everyone but it turned out ultron drugged him and gaslighted him into thinking his wife was cheating on him which then caused him to have a mental breakdown to where he basically institutionalized himself

James Fernandez

Every time I see the school scene, with Scott running around at half-size, and Hope flying after him, my brain can only think of one thing: Hey! Listen!

SweetCandle

How does Michelle Pfeiffer look better in her 60s than she did in her 30s?

SweetCandle

I really like the Antman movies... but everyone treats him like an idiot, he has masters degree, is he Banner/Stark/Pym smart? No, but he's not a freaking moron either.

Porpoise Power

i mean isnt he even a villain in some comics.

Silverr

in simpler terms the movie when bad when instead of being a cooprotagonist the wasp and ant man, it uses ant man as a stair for the wasp to be in the spot light... worst thing is that you can tell thats their goal, and instead of doing it right they just do it enought so people can say "look they are inclusive", but in reallity they dont even care, if they did they would make a good female lead WITH a godd male lead as it was expected of this movie

carlos sebastian paredes infante

I deleted my initial comment so hopefully my phone can stop pinging me every time someone gives me shit for not sharing their viewpoint. Thank you.

Vikkiloo/ExoticUnic0rn

Ok, then I guess I’m confused on what you mean by “focusing your plot on women and minorities just doesn’t make good stories.” Because I don’t agree with that. I guess you meant ONLY women and minorities, but still I think a really good writer could make a good story out of that. Anyway sorry I misunderstood, I thought you were making an argument against my points instead of adding to it

Mantis

You’re literally agreeing with me. Were saying the same things. I’m not saying that a female lead or the entire cast being minorities instantly makes the movie bad marvel just ONLY does that and doesn’t actually write these characters well

Ben Yokes

Honestly after reading some of the comics, I am ALL FOR shitting on Hank Pym. He is an unhinged, egotistical, self righteous, domestic abusive piece of shit. (Janet isn't great either. Hank and Janet's marriage in general is toxic) (And Hank being bipolar or schizophrenic or psychotic explains some of his actions but it does not excuse them.)

Lachlan Watson

Like, hear me out, but I think Marvel movies with women lead roles aren’t bad BECAUSE the lead is a women, but because Marvel is bad at writing lead women. If they do their job and write women like actual humans, like how they wrote black people like actual humans in Black Panther, we would have a well written and good women lead movie. It’s really weird to suggest the very existence of a female lead makes the movie bad

Mantis

Why do you think movies that lead a woman/minority HAVE to push a narrative? What makes a movie bad if it simply has good women characters in the lead role? Why do you think if a woman is in a lead role it HAS to be written badly? Can you tell me why Black Panther is good despite having a black lead and many women supporting roles?

Mantis

The problem is that focusing your plot on women and minorities and haha funny jokes just doesn’t make good stories. The Marvels, Black Widow, What If, Captain Marvel, and if I had to guess next I’d say IronHeart; all are just not good because they want to push a narrative instead of just telling a good story. Take the “girl power” scene in certain marvel movid for example. That scene was just weird because none of these characters had even interacted before so it didn’t even make sense but marvel said: Oh the women are going to love this one. But they don’t because you can only make a good product when your focused on making the product effective and not just: “This product is good because it’s a product”

Ben Yokes

I really don’t think they messed up his character in endgame. I just think the explanation for what happened being completely off screen made ppl not like him

Ben Yokes

Black Panther has some of the strongest female AND black characters I’ve ever seen in a movie. Why isn’t that movie “when they started focusing on women and minorities”? Because Infinity War is after? Endgame is after Captain Marvel so that idea doesnt track. Because it’s written well? Well by golly gee, that would mean the WRITING is the problem not that they focus on women and minorities! What a concept!

Mantis

Look I wont doubt that the possible reason that the upcoming movies are not as good is because Marvel doesn’t know how to write lead women well. Or maybe the writing is just lazy, whether they aren’t as interested in the premise or they feel that including minorities will give them enough numbers so they don’t have to work as hard. I don’t know the reason, but it doesn’t matter. “This is when they focus more on women. Which is only bad because the writing is bad.” THEN JUST SAY THIS IS WHEN THE WRITING STARTS TO GET BAD why start with the irrelevant part! I’m honestly so confused about this trend

Mantis

“This is where the trend of focusing on women heroes starts” why does everyone word it like that’s a bad thing? 😭 “There’s nothing wrong with that unless the writings bad” then the bad writing is the problem, not focusing on women. That’s like saying there’s nothing wrong with heist movies unless the writings bad. There’s nothing wrong with overpowered super heroes unless the writings bad. There’s nothing wrong with silly marvel movies unless the writing is bad. Like yes? Why is everyone talking as if the first part is the problem not the obvious second part?

Mantis

I do get where you are coming from. Where the side character overshadows the main character. In my mind it feels like that is because if the movie was just about the main character again it would get boring. We have seen antman do his thing. The Wasp is the "new" so they get more of a showing. Male or female black or white they all get a chance to show what they can do.

YukoValis

A woman is badass in a movie partly named after her after it was established in the previous movie that she’s been training all her life for this and people dog pile on it starting a negative trend. I haven’t seen Captain Marvel yet (so tbh my thoughts might change) but god forbid a WOMAN is overpowered. You ever go to a Superman movie and say his power is forced?

Mantis

This reminds me that one of my personal gripes with the first one was that it had the trope “newbie man perfects technique that woman trained all her life for” (I did still love the first movie) If you watch the first movie right before this one it makes total sense why Hope is flying circles around Scott lol. That being said I do agree with Alicia, Antman having a faulty suit the ENTIRE movie was pretty lame

Mantis

Honestly, the fact that Scott is stuck with a malfunctioning suit the whole movie and STILL kicked ass, just showcases his talent as Ant-Man/Giant-Man. No matter what size he is, he always makes it work. And yes, sometimes he needs help from Wasp, like getting Cassie's bag, but that could have easily been solved with a desk or chair. There's nothing 'woke' or 'forced diversity' about this. The only time Scott genuinely needed help was when it came to the electronics of the suit, something he has no idea about. And that's totally fair. That's just how people work.

CrimsonWarrior55

Dr strange 2, Thor love and thunder, guardians 3 is basically just rocket movie (still goated tho), lots of the phase four series like Hawkeye and Wanda vision. Probably very simple counterarguments to these examples, but it's just my opinion

Thomas Wilkins

Really? Who else? I haven't noticed that. Usually whoever has the title is the one the film is about.

CrimsonWarrior55

If your biggest gripe with the movie is you wanted to see more Scott, fair enough, but you can just say that without pointing out that Scott is a white man and Hope is a woman. Hope got the wasp armor at the end of last movie. They wanted to show it off. It’s not some conspiracy to put the white man down and get women to watch the movie or whatever. Just say you didn’t like how they directed it like a normal person, you seem like a nice person I trust you can do that

Mantis

Yeah you’re not winning any debate using the word “woke” (even when prefacing that you hate the word, maybe don’t use it then?) I might agree with you if there were several badass women characters and several bumbling white men. But you came from the first movie already knowing Hope is badass and Scott is a bit of a funny guy. We love them both for that. I personally think you’ve got your head too far into anti-minority propaganda and I think you can find ways to describe why this movie isn’t the best without pulling the “woman is lead, man is not” crap

Mantis

Sorry, that was my bad! I was also trying to reply to the other comment. Patreon comment system is... flawed, to say the least.

I'm following way too many nsfw accounts to use a name here

You can always tell what type of propaganda someone's gobbling up by how they use the word "woke". Most people rarely even say the word and simply know it as someone having more awareness of modern prejudices. But others refer to "wokeness" as their brainrot way of saying "not enough white men" or "needs hotter women". They can justify it however they like, but it always comes back to those insecurities.

Rhodair

Wait... you've never seen The Matrix, Alicia?!

Kinji

This film was the first in line of weird things where marvel used main title films as a way to sneakily make it the sidecharacters film. They do it frequently after endgame and its why a lot of people fell off of marvel movies

Thomas Wilkins

Sorry, I think I was trying to reply to the one above me lol, I agree with your statement!

Kayden

Yeah def agree. Good popcorn flick but not something I'd be like yeah I need to see that again.

Bj Howe

I don't think that has anything to do with gender or minority though. The Wasp is the new aspect of the movie so they were going to show that off no matter what. Especially since she has been built up in the first movie as the one who has trained to wear the suit. I don't feel they did antman a disservice to be honest, let alone for it being a "because she is female" thing.

YukoValis

I’ve seen all the Marvel films, and while I like some more than others, there’s none that I hate. I did enjoy this one in theater- you could feel the gasps at the after credits when realization hit the audience.

Hotaru Tomoe

Goliath was a marvel super hero in the old comics similar to ant-man but with different morals he played a big role in the civil war comics where he and Hank pym fought nearly to the death what makes him special is that there were always rumors that he could one day surpass ant-man

James Fernandez

I think you're just not a very good person dude to be honest, and you should work on that a bit.

Matty C

That's kinda a really grim ending. Nobody knows where he went, and he's stuck utterly alone...

Noodle

At least they didn’t say the “W” word in a negative connotation.

GavinGamePad3DS

I think, as far as we know, truth serums were never any better than just getting someone drunk. Though I could be wrong. Classified stuff is released occasionally. A bit like a lie detector test. It was never actually scientifically shown to work. It was just used by cops to coerce confessions.

DrCatspaw

“Minority empowerment” what a turd statement.

Nicholas Ruff

That is not what I am saying. I dont wanna say more as it involves spoilers for Endgame probably I reply after she have seen end game

Sage of All knowing

I think she’ll like him for who he is

Emperor Belos

While I agree with you conceptually as Scott is generally a doofus in his actions, there is (I believe) a difference between what you are describing and what they did in this movie specifically. I think my best approach to explain what I mean is with "action screen time" per character, the repeated intentional shut down of Ant-Man to make more space for "girl bossing", and I don't personally think it's a far stretch seeing how Disney has treated their other IP's. But again, I agree with your point, I just don't think we're aiming at the same target.

Vikkiloo/ExoticUnic0rn

man I feel so bad for alicia knowing how much she like Bruce and they fucked his charater development is soo sad.

Sage of All knowing

I don't think you were paying attention to the first movie. Ant-man bumbles about and makes things work a lot of times through luck. Wasp is the serious always business badass type. That is how it worked in previous movies because that was their characters. All this movie did was showcase that more compared to the first movie where she didn't have much to do. Because the first movie was Antman. This movie is Antman and the Wasp.

YukoValis

Additional note: those weird animals that Hank saw when he got stuck halfway to the Quantum Realm whiich look kinda like eight-legged gummy bears with suction-cup mouths are actually a real thing called Tardigrades, AKA "water bears" or "moss pigs." They're a real species of microscopic arthropods that mainly live on mosses & lichens, but they're only really active when exposed to water. Whenever conditions in their environment start to get unfavorable to them (too hot, too cold, too dry, etc), they enter a form of stasis known as "cryptobiosis" (think like cryogenic freezing, except they remove nearly all the water in their own bodies). What makes tardigrades even more remarkable is that they can potentially remain in stasis for hundreds of years and, while in stasis, are nearly indestructible & able to survive all manner of instantly fatal hazardous conditions completely unharmed, including extremely fatal levels of radiation (like the Elephant's Foot at Chernobyl level of bad) or even the freezing cold vacuum of Outer Space! Pretty impressive for an animal smaller than a grain of sand that you can probably find on any old tree or boulder.

Serpentking789

The relative accuracy of this compared to anyone else I've seen trying to explain her made me so happy...

Lackey2

Vikkiloo/ExoticUnic0rn

Nah. Nah, I had to take a minute after she went off about dishwashers. I've never felt so attacked without being targeted

Flip SkeeMalker

Baba Yaga is a real witch from Slavic & Russian folklore, she's basically the horrifying badass grandma of the archetypical fairytale witch who lives in the dark spooky woods & eats children. Instead of a gingerbread house, Baba Yaga lives in a magical hut that's bigger on the inside and walks on giant chicken legs, and her property is surrounded by a fence made of human bones with lanterns made of human skulls. Instead of broomstick, she flies through the air in a giant mortar and pestle (those things used to grind stuff into a paste or powder by hand). Baba Yaga has sharp metal teeth and a hooked iron nose, and like any evil fairytale witch or boogeyman, she likes to eat human flesh (but especially children). However, if you manage to play your cards right & complete any tasks she gives you to her satisfaction, there's a slim chance that Baba Yaga might help you with your problems like she did for Vasilisa the Beautiful (who is basically Russian Cinderella).

Serpentking789

The damsel in distress thing was always kinda Scott's deal. Hank pym was the serious ant man.

Emeradis

We in the endgame now boiz

Az256

Haha! It was the extra cheesy ones!

Sorai

I love the fact they named their company X-con seeing they are all ex convicts, small thing like that just makes me appreciate movies like this more

Niels Vermaas

@yukovalis ha ha funny joke you like the captain Marvel movie that's a good one you got me on the floor laughing nobody likes that movie it's horrible almost unwatchable

Iron_claw

I think when people criticise marvel for being too jokey, it kind of added up over time. The movies always had a bit of humour in them, but after the big success of Ragnarok and Guardians of the Galaxy (also Deadpool being a massive hit), they started to copy that level of humour into everything, making it all feel a little bit samey and taking away from a lot of the seriousness. It just gets a bit old after the 10th movie/show, with yet another quirky superhero cracking the same old jokes every 5 seconds. Also I feel like it's a similar situation to what you were saying about it not feeling like an antman movie. It kind of started to feel like they wanted to phase out the old superheroes for new ones, which I don't think is an issue in its self, but the way they went about it was basically like this, where it felt like they were pushing out the old ones and trying to ride off their success rather than letting the new ones stand by their own merit. Still a few more decent movies and shows ahead imo, but I'll be curious to see what you think, as to me, after endgame, it started to feel a bit like they were just throwing stuff at the wall to see what stuck, and the shows especially became very hit/miss. I always felt that they should have taken a couple of years out to let people get over the superhero movie burnout after Endgame, but they just kept going with show after movie after show.

Eddy

Never really got the "girl power" feeling from this movie till Alicia started pointing it out but to be fair Hope trained her whole life for it while Scott is still new and less skilled so it makes sense.

Alex

Poorly written, poorly directed and sub-par acting makes it one of the worse marvel movies, within what is currently considered the "peak" of the mcu. I don't know why people like to bring in gender, when captain marvel is a beloved and a top 10 marvel character in the comics, she is literally goated in the comics. Captain marvel had the potential of being one of the best marvel movies and they failed in so many aspects it's sad and frustrating as a comic/marvel fan.

burntbean20

No

Ben Yokes

Because that’s literally what it was. It was either that or an ad for Air Force or just a badly wrote story and jokes where they don’t belong. Captain Marvel is a disgrace of a movie

Ben Yokes

Okoga honestly shut your Mouth. You’ve been nothing but a negative Nancy in this comment section. And you resort to vulgar language and insulting people over not liking certain movies? Grow up or go home

Ben Yokes

How long before somebody clips her "plates on the top rack" rant into a YouTube short?

Bret Sheeley

Endgame gives a *lot* more context to his actions. The films are both incredible

PrivateXimmy

Truth serum does kind of exist. You were right about it messing with your head, I think. Its not magic and still takes an expert in interrogation to use it. Though in a court I feel like saying "they admitted it when we pumped them full of drugs" is not a good look.

bismuthalienated

Scott the Rogue, Hope the Fighter, and Hank the Artificer

NickAsNickName

More reasons for her to watch them, that's the whole fucking point of doing react content. I hate those movies, but watching her watch them? That could be entertaining, that's the whole point.

Okoga

Hopes mother: Oh man, it sure is good to be back in the normal world. Hope we can live happily ever af- *gets disintegrated along her family after 20 years*

Eric

It's also important to note that in the comics Antman and Wasp we a duo, they were both the MCs of their comics and to me because Antman got to shine in the first movie it makes sense for Wasp to shine more in this one, it balances it out to me.

Nugo520

80% of people don't like captain Marvel or eternals I am far from the only one who thinks those movies should be wipe off the face of the earth and forgotten about never to be spoken about or watched again

Iron_claw

Yes, that was what my original comment said, not this movie in particular(though it does to an extent) but the trend that started around this period.

Azel !!

I love her reaction cause of her rants. They r so fun and they happen cause she connects with a part of the movie she is watching.

Gotamoona

LOL, i didnt know that! now he looks like a younger cecil to me

Yagi di Hoshi

You hit the nail on the head with the last theory, this movie was meant to be a breather after Infinity War's heaviness and before the finale, obviously important things happened but it's light-hearted and fun before getting all serious again in the build-up to Endgame.

Ellerian

I do agree that the suit malfunctioning plot-point was overdone, but everything else you listed has nothing to do with Ant-Man and sounds more like you're trying to use future knowledge to justify your stance on this movie in particular. Even if the suit malfunctioning was repetitive, it doesn't change the fact that Hope being the point of emphasis for this movie made sense from a narrative perspective. She wasn't shoe-horned into the story for a cheap pop from a minority in the Marvel audience, this movie was written *for her*.

Richard Sinclair

And now you know why Ant-Man wasn't in Infinity War.

Kaz

The 'plot' of scott having issues with the suit the whole movie? The next one being "Captain Marvel" (I think everyone knows the issue with that one), and the infamous "she's not alone" scene. A bit too in the face don't you think? And I don't even think of black widow as weak due to the existence of Hawkeye.

Azel !!

that's my whole thing with this! they're trying to be funny with the suit malfunctions in this, but there's also no Edgar Wright-like cinematography-humor in sight!! like, it's cute sure, but doesnt quite work for me either. i did a whole-ass Edgar Wright film marathon with my mom before this movie had come out, and i was pretty 'meh' about this one as a result, lol

Yagi di Hoshi

And Bologna what are you talking about? This is my first mention of it be quiet

Ben Yokes

Why? Because the movie is horrible. I’ll doubt she’ll enjoy it

Ben Yokes

I don't understand why people think that. We've had strong female characters all the way back to iron man 2 with Nat in disguise. There is no leaning on strong female characters. There is strong female characters having equal footing with everyone else.

YukoValis

The wasp: featuring antman is a very good descriptor of this movie. Honestly though I'm not complaining because Hope is a badass. We have Scott for the more emotional or funny parts.

YukoValis

this one doesnt seem as meh as i remember, that "world's greatest grandma" foreshadowing is real funny. but i do wish Edgar Wright was on this in some form XD but eh he probably didnt want that

Yagi di Hoshi

1:19:51 Alicia you are so real for that.

Kieren

Even in the first movie, Ant-Man wasn't really a fighter. Hope was the fighter trying to teach him. They even imply that Luis is a better fighter than him (he's the only one to have knocked out the guy at the prison, he gets to knock out a guard in the finale). Scott's all about being clever, and really the only person we see him fight successfully in any of the movies so far is Cross/Yellowjacket, who is... a self-important business exec, not exactly a soldier.

Kyle Bryant

Every time Paul Rudd plays the Mac and Me clip on Conan O’Brien’s show he signs a contract with the devil to not age for five years.

Robert Collard

Depends if Alicia had ever seen Batman Returns and her role as Catwoman

Robert Collard

No matter what I see Goggins in he will always be Shane Vendrell from The Shield for a second before the character he plays takes over

Robert Collard

Sounds like you just listed reasons for her TO watch it, that's kinda the whole point of react content right?

Okoga

Plus the entire first movie was all about Hank holding back Hope because of his fear of losing her like he did his wife. He even states with no sarcasm or malice to Hope that he chose Scott as a way to protect Hope from her going against Cross so they can both claim plausible deniability if Scott messes up. Hank knows Hope can do any task put in front of her, he just does not pull the trigger until after the events of Ant-Man

Robert Collard

Oh damn, I was in bed eating Bacon&Cheddar cheezits for this, what was your poison?

Okoga

She isn't going to just fucking skip one because you don't like it. That is such a moronic take. Just shut up and enjoy the content, or don't watch her react to it.

Okoga

What a dumb and useless comment. Of course she is going to watch it.

Okoga

I loved this movie! Your reaction is so great. Loved your rant about the dishwasher, that is ICONIC

Joey245

No, that's just people projecting their future knowledge trying to find where it started. The truth is that in the original source The Wasp has always been the more combat oriented of the pair while Ant-man has been the scientist who makes all their gadgets and plans (because it was Hank Pym). Scott succeeded Pym and is more combat oriented than him, but The Wasp was still the combat specialist.

Yurei Okami

I don't think it was forced in this movie at all. When Scott came back from the Quantum Realm in the first movie, it practically set up the plot for this movie. Hope having increased significance made complete sense. It may not have been what people wanted to see, but that's a different discussion entirely.

Richard Sinclair

I'm sitting here at 2:03:00 with Alicia going "I thought this movie would have been f&%ed up, but I guess the snap doesn't even happen in this movie". And then there's me looking at the screen thinking "Oh boy..." On a side note, Hope being the main combatant is actually pretty faithful to the source material. The few things I watched/read The Wasp was in she was the one doing most of the fighting. Ant-man would take more of a scientist role, figuring out plans and making gadgets (because it was Hank Pym). Scott's Ant-man is not a scientist, but he's more of a master thief than a combatant. So yeah, in this movie, it's absolutely valid and faithful to the source that The Wasp does the most and the best when it comes to fighting. Sadly, it's not always that fair in the MCU. We have some infamous ones in the horizon. But we are not there yet :D

Yurei Okami

I really like this movie and think it's better than the first one, honestly. I know it feels like Ant-Man is a side character, but this isn't really *his* movie. It's the Wasp's movie. I've seen some comments saying this movie is a casualty of Marvel leaning into the "strong female character" trope, but I don't buy it. Hope having increased significance in this film felt entirely organic. The impossibility of the Quantum Realm was a major plot-point from the first movie, and when Scott went in and came back, it opened up the possibility that Janet was still alive. Of course the next step would be for Hank and Hope to save her.

Richard Sinclair

I think people just think that movie is boring as it follows the marvel formula to a T

Loro

Yes Watch all the Marvel movies. Even the ones that make you want to Shove pencils into both your eyes I'm telling you, it'd be better just to skip captain Marvel. I went to the theaters and watched captain Marvel when it first came out and I almost walked out. now she should just not watch eternals. I walked out of the movie theater 40 minutes into that movie it was God awful it was terrible it was complete garbage.

Iron_claw

It also fits his character in general, both movies and comics. Hank is the scientist turned soldier, Scott is a thief trying to do right by his people. (Also great username lmfao)

Billy Green

I think the reason this feels more like The wasp ft. Antman is because at this point, marvel started leaning into...."strong female" tropes a bit too heavily. It wouldn't be bad but it feels too forced.

Azel !!

Yeah, after all you need to watch something to tell if it's good or not. If she wanted to pick and choose she would've already done so looong ago instead of watching the whole MCU.

leviathan_13

I loved this movie. Thought it was super fun and feel good. And in theaters, when the end credit played, everyone was like “AHHHHHHHHHHHH”

Jack Collins

I think the consensus is that this was a fun family movie. Some Marvel fans just skipped on this one since ant-man isn't very popular.

Julio 🤔

man after watching invincible all i can think about is Cecil every time Walton Goggins talks

Nick

WHERE IS THE AMAZING SPIDER-MAN 2?!?

IshowPot

She's not skipping it Ben. You've been on about this for at least a month, and it's just getting cringeworthy.

Bologna Amputation

1:19:17 Ok who put a dime in the vtuber jukebox?

Trevor Appel

This movie is mostly disposable, but I like the mid credits scenes and I like how cute Ant-man is with his family.

nervouspirate

To be fair at what point did hank actually have the time to fix the suit? They were on a tight schedule the entire time

brody benton-haskins

It's honestly disturbing how zelous they are for their hatred of it.

NERD!

Yeah she wants to experience the good with the bad, the whole 9 yards. You gotta respect that! But fuck man even then . . . secret invasion’s a tough time.

PrivateXimmy

I didn't say he can't fight, but that he'd rather not.

I'm following way too many nsfw accounts to use a name here

Honestly I've seen those comments for everything besides the Avenger movies. I never got it because almost all the marvel movies have some good in them to enjoy.

YukoValis

why? I really like that one.

YukoValis

True, but I don’t think he was training his fighting skills while under house arrest for almost 2 years right?

Kayden

I mean Hope did teach him how to fight.

The Lazy Gamer

Y'all need to stop sitting in here acting like quality control when you've actually got no control. She's not going to skip a movie or a show just because some of you don't like it

The Lazy Gamer

Marvel tends to side-line male characters starting/escalating around this era of Marvel, but I think it's fine that Ant-man specifically doesn't fight much. Scott Lang is a cat burglar. Comics characterize everyone a bit different, but I think this version of Scott just fits as someone who'd rather avoid the fight, while Hope has been training to fight most of her life so it makes sense that she'd focus on fighting. EDIT: I guess I should have quoted Scott. "I hate violence, I burgled them. I’m a cat burglar." Just because he can fight, doesn't mean he wants to. Him taking non-violent actions over violent ones makes the most sense.

I'm following way too many nsfw accounts to use a name here

I occasionally also have issues with my eyes, sometimes i get headaches or i might feel pressure behind my eyes. if its the headache I take a break from tech. if you get pressure behind your eyes you can do what I do, I sometimes use the corner of my palm to press my eyes inward to relieve some pressure or I will stick my eyes under the sink and run water over them, usually a combo of both works best for me.

TSP247

I hope azu only leaves in "I forget how to blink" and cuts out all other context lol

Craig

INSERT SPONGEBOB "MY EYES" MEME

DanielTheHamster

I hope your eyeballs feel better today

Jacob

imma pull a Sam L. Jackson on you: DO YOU KNOW HOW TO BLINK?! BLINK MOTHERFUCKER!

Cashryn Sins

Wow, I have NEVER considered that angle, but it kinda makes a scary amount of sense... O.o

Carus Lumen

It's Michelle Pfeifer, of course.

The Lazy Gamer

Pls skip captain marvel watch a quick recap and that’s it im not tryna wait a week for it

Ben Yokes

Welp, we get to meet plank again after this... yay.

Vendacator

I thought this was a fun break after infinity war. it's quite fun

Gildarts1#fan

Love the reaction/commentary, first time watching this movie was better than what I expected, my expectations were low but this movie a solid 6.5/10, i agree a little more ant-man would be nice, but the wasp is an important part of ant-man, so technically this is her movie. Endgame makes more sense now, so does the third movie. Now time to watch captain marvel, like this one i will go with a more open mind, even though I already know what im in for. We just have to focus on the final goal

burntbean20

If you're gonna watch Marvel, watch them all

Thomas Malone

Please just skip captain Marvel. A lot of that movie just felt like an ad for Air Force. Everything about it was just awful. The story was terrible. The character development was terrible And the acting, oh my God, the acting was so bad. Bree Larson Should never have been cast in that movie. She was so stiff as a character and the interviews that she did for the movie were just unwatchable. She made everyone else around her feel uncomfortable. You can see it on their faces. You could tell they were Crawling on eggshells around her not even walking but crawling.

Iron_claw

To be fair to Jasmin here, even Alicia noticed the shift. Its definitely worse in later entries. The main issue is the one Knuckles pointed out. "Whenever someone calls attention to the breaking of gender-roles, it ultimately undermines the concept of gender equality by implying that this is an exception and not the status quo." The girl-power moments kinda highlight the lack thereof in the rest of the MCU and some of the films end up tripping over themselves trying to fix the issue in hindsight instead of making good movies/shows with great women.

N00B

Oh 100% this movie is not bad at all. Was more just what is to come compared to this movie ^^

Jasmin Jakobsen

So we really not gonna talk about how hot the mom is?

Ben Gross

For me, Ant Man and the Wasp was a pallet cleanser after Infinity War. Cause god damn Infinity War's ending was a lot. And just a bit of fun facts to think on for you Alicia: Despite Dr. Strange ultimately giving the Time Stone to Thanos because he told Tony that it was the only way, Dr. Strange STILL fought with Thanos. Almost as if Strange was......stalling.......

Kien Kicho

A fact that always trips me up cause that man LITTERALLY doesn't age. He's like a damn vampire, stuck in his late 20's, I swear to god.

Justin Scott

Fixed to more general time

Sniper Delta

This was before covid

Morris and his code

I am so excited for the next movie. Captain Marvel is in my top 3 favourites of anything Marvel during phases 1 - 3.

Lucifer Moon

Yeah. Both are played by Walton Goggins

Hylian Pottery

wait whatttttt

Ja’Maine Lee

Nah, this was 2018 summer, way before covid. The first movie after covid was BW (july 2021) and the WV tv show (january 2021 ) But yeah, you can start to feel the post-Endgame quality and "The Message" with this and especially Captain Marvel.

GyufaMC

Damn her mom fine as hell even with the pure white hair.

GrimPitbull

We will need a compilation of everything of the mcu so far in 5th person of alicia imitating luis

Faroth

The actor for Sunny Burch is my favourite because he plays as the ghoul in the fallout TV show

MarakamiSG

For some reason i never watched this one Here i go

Faroth

1:19:00 I keep extra large things such as pots and pans out of the dishwasher and wash them by hand while the dishwasher is handling the smaller stuff.

N00B

Without spoilers, anybody remember Brie Larson kicking out male interviewers in an interview prior to the movie?

N00B

Now Alicia has to survive cpt marvel and we're in the Endgame

TwojaStaraIFrytki .

I have the same eye strain problem but only in certain games, mainly hardcore RTS stuff, where I have to concentrate and focus and I just focus so hard my eyes are killing me if I play for more than a few horus

David Bodor

2 more weeks until Endgame. I'm so excited!

KatoBen

I was just thinking that, like, what if we was recapping with Thanos mimicing his way of articulation

Xeitenketsu

Yeah this is where the Marvel movie quality started to dip in a few projects. This is also the time where they started to focus super heavily on identity politics in their movies in a meta way. Essentially how Disney/Marvel views all of the movies that came before this is that they view them as sexist and misogynistic because they were very heavily male focused. So from here on they try to uplift the women of the MCU a lot more. Wouldn't be an issue but, like you pointed out, they have problems with knocking down the men or making them less prominent in order to prop up the women and make them more important or make them look cooler than the men that came before them.

Sniper Delta

Sonny Burch is Cecil!!!!!! (I know it isn't big, but it's big to me)

Hylian Pottery

Fun fact: the Federal agent Woo is based on a character from 1956 who predates Ant Man and even Marvel being called Marvel. Jack Kirby did the writing and arc starting with the second issue.

Ranginald Vagel

There are some super likeable characters in the TV series too! They're interspersed with the movies in terms of release dates

dc

Big same on that dishes convo

The BFG 37

Yeah I just wiped that movie from my brain

Big Fuze

Yeah, he put on the stone mask at sometime and became a vampire. No other way to explain it

Colin Darcas

Agreed Kato - it's not, like, great, but the way people talk about it, you'd think it was 2 hours of Brie Larson personally insulting the genitals of every man in the audience.

Bologna Amputation

I mean, my reply to you was deleted so that should tell you everything about this place.

donald johnson

Paul Rudd is in his 50s. Unbelievably. So if Scott is the same age as Paul, or a few years younger, he's mid 40s at the youngest.

AbsurdToastling

My guess is that people think i am some right leaning or something? nothing wrong about being right leaning love to debate people in real life from all sides of the line. But just because i stated a fact about the future movies people get mad? So much for tolerance and all that stuff i guess.

Jasmin Jakobsen

Oof (also i'm pretty positive that movie was actual Air Force propaganda)

Kino

Did not know Alicia's community was this nasty. How sad.

Jasmin Jakobsen

Captain Marvel . . . I would say is not the worst, but it is near the bottom of the MCU movies. The issue I have with Captain Marvel is that it feels like a pre-MCU hero movie.

KatoBen

Great reaction thank you, but girl, you need to take some time of and relax BUT let us know first so no one freaks out because you'll definitely be missed by a lot of your community out here. Also, it's kind of sad that our boy Scott gets more done under house arrest on an average day that I do being perfectly free to leave the house anytime i want.

Arcane.Joe

Captain Marvel IIRC

Technical_Analysis

Oddly, this is the only phase 3 movie I never saw. I got the major plot beats from other sources, but never actually saw this. Don't blink enough? Okay, remind me to never challenge you to a staring contest. I already suck at those so you'd just embarrass me. :p This and the next movie are mostly 'flashback' movies. Events that happened before Infinity War. IIRC it's the end credit scenes for both that are following the Snap. I'm a pretty heavy social introvert, I already know I can run three months with next to no in-person contact and only start to get antsy toward the end of three months. Others I know... not so much they said. :p That said, those three months are going to be nearly totally in front of the computer or in bed so... 'healthy' is debatable. Yes he is stuck in the quantum realm until the next bit. Though... yeah. Stuck. The problem that has been growing in Ant-Man's movies have been seeming that they don't really include Ant-Man.

Arashi

is end game next?

PostageBread

Agree. Do I think Ant Man and Ant Man and the Wasp are the best Marvel movies? No, but damn it they are probably two of the Marvel movies I have rewatched the most due to the perfect mix of action, comedy and most importantly the cast (which is why I am not a big fan of the third due to certain cast members not being in the movie)

Robert Collard

What?

Jasmin Jakobsen

"Wouldn't you guys just rot in bed?" Me, laying in bed eating cheezits and watching Alicia react to the movie. "Preach."

Sorai

How'd that bleach taste during Covid?

Adam

21:09 As Scott loved to remind everyone in the first movie, he didn't rob them, because robbery involves threat. He burgled them. He was very hung up on this fact that he's a burglar not a robber.

bandi138138

Dear God, no, she should just skipped that abomination of a marvel movie captain Marvel is garbage it sucks the story sucks the character development sucks the acting sucks.

Iron_claw

You would have been tripping balls if you where high watching the quantum realm part🤣

Demonsabath67

Somewhere, out there, there exists Luis giving a recap of everything up to Endgame

largo778 .

Dont remind me of such filth, for my own mental state, after endgame any movie besides GOTG 3 and the two spiderman movies. Is and will be blocked out of my brain, that way they can't hurt me any more.

burntbean20

I've seennthe third ant-man, so I know my personal (luis) goat makes his last appearance here, the character luis, shares my name but also his actor Micheal pena, is a great actor. He was one of the main characters in one of my favorite shows (narcos mexico). So him having my name made me fan girl, I pray for the day Alicia watches the narcos series, sadly I know it will never happen but a man can dream.

burntbean20

"Objectively worst" when Eternals exists, pfff.

Bologna Amputation

This is the first taste of the MsheU there is to come. It is not that bad yet in this movie but it can be felt.

Jasmin Jakobsen

I'm not gonna rant about the dishes. 3 seconds later:

Scarecrow443

Pre-watch comment: never seen this movie, multiple friends and family told me this movie wasn't that good, I know it leads up for endgame. Truthfully I seen endgame without this movie and it made sense, still happy to see Alicia watching all the movies. That also mean that objectively the worst marvel movie (in the mcu) is next "captain marvel". I will take forth that venture watching Alicia as well.

burntbean20

As an average Marvel fan, I love this film. Clearly a Marvel film in so many ways, but the smaller and more personal scope make it such a welcome difference after all the "major consequences" movies.

Tyler Jones

Captain Marvel first

Noxar Boi

Endgame is next right? Can’t wait for her to see that one.

Avro

https://streamable.com/tquqm2?t=646 I mean....yes, but in a good, endearing way. Remember, we love Michael Pena

Eric

Not to brag Alicia, but going into your blinking rant at the start of the video, I've never had a problem staring. I've been able to stare at screen for minutes on end (with a fan blowing) without any issue. How do I know this? My middle school science class held a little staring contest in relation to eyes one day. I won second place and that was only because I intentionally blinked. The total time was about 8 to 9 minutes and meanwhile the other contestant had his eyes feel like they were burning, I didn't feel a damn thing other than boredom so I blinked just to get it over with. For extra context, apparently the record my science teacher has had in the past doing this contest was somewhere between 10 to 15 minutes, where he actually had end the contest personally to move on with teaching.

Connor Clemmons

30:46 Hey I know this guy, he is Cooper Howard from Fallout Tv Series

Memento Forever

This video reminded me how similar alicia is to luis and I love it

Marco Cheng

Paul Rudd was 48 when this movie came out, he's 55 now

Verdigree

Not even 5 minutes in and I hard relate. Like, when I'm REALLY into a game (MH:Wilds, looking at you) I just get so involved that I even forget to eat. Luckily when I find the random time to relax and just go "I wonder if there's any videos on YouTube I can watch" and then BAM! I just realize I have to eat.

Mitch Gates

Or it could also be that people rightly have high standards for big budget films and marvels writing tanked after infinity war. Does not mean you can't enjoy a movie, even if it's sub-par or terrible. I just think too many folks watch a film when it comes out, have a good time without thinking about it too hard, then get personally offended when said film is scrutinized thoroughly and believing it makes them a bad person for having enjoyed it.

Rokkettdog

Completely agree. I think a lot of Marvel movies in the vicinity of Infinity War got judged by the extremely high bar that movie set, PLUS dealing with the start of people getting very tired of just how many Marvel films there were starting to be. Is it one of the best Marvel films? Not by a long shot. Is it still a really fun watch with some good humor and special effects? Definitely.

Rainet

Oh, I love this movie. I think I first watched it when going through a hard time, and I never giggled so much as an old man.

LazyArtist

Before I rewatch and change my opinion on this (which has happened for a lot) I’ll say that I’ve always thought the internet was a little too hard on this movie. It’s definitely not the best film, nor the best marvel movie, but it’s pretty fun. All the ant shenanigans that happen is fun, and Hope as wasp is pretty cool. Also the fbi guy is entertaining

mykanike

Whoop amazing video as always

Demon king meliodas

ANT-MAN AND THE WASP WOOOO!!!

Randomguy65

You put the coin in this marvel jukebox. Looking forward to seeing the whole record play.

YukoValis

the after credits scene gives ya a little vibe check don’t it?

HellhoundDex

Hope you enjoy after last week's heartbreak, 'cause I know I'll enjoy watching with ya! (^u^)d

Carus Lumen

FIRST! WOOHOO!

Brandon J.M.L Burrows

Baba ya ga

Ok

yayyyyyy

Andhy thomas

Instantly clicked off my YouTube video to watch this

Karma