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Daredevil 1x9

THE REVEAL AND FIGHT

Daredevil 1x9

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I looked it up and two thirds of all capital trials contained serious errors. When the cases were retried, over 80% of the defendants were not sentenced to death and 7% were completely acquitted. Unfortunately I could not find if these people survived or if they were executed before being retried but I'm guessing it wasn't enough. That is a horrifying percentage of innocent and needless death.

Gamer Kane

I think I might have the same ad blocker, it honestly feels like Wikipedia asking for money. It only happens about once a month but you can still use it without paying for it.

EthanEverhart

she always said in this and in Avatar showing the blind newspaper or poster or etc is so rude, dont you know they are blind. but in my opinion these scenes shows that they dont treat the blind person as just a blind person. they are so comfortable around the person that they forget that they are blind at times. I think that is the farthest thing from rude

Sage of All knowing

Foggy deserves all of the pussy, the fact a woman hasn’t locked him down yet is criminal

Ben Gross

18:18 "You were supposed to destroy the ads not join them!"

Austin

The idea of a system of justice that has some responsibility towards ensuring justice, true justice, is a nice thought. I look forward to theday someone makes an honest attempt at it. Until that impossible day, capital punishment will be used to kill the innocent and the deviant at the will of the state as much or more than it will be used to mete out some form of 'justice'. And the innocent and the deviant will wonder why they died for crimes they did not commit and things that are not crimes, and the answer will be the same today as it was 10,000 years ago: "Because we preferred feeling safe to being safe, and someone said killing them would make us safe."

Tank3875

The system can't be fixed to that extent. Anyone saying it can be is a liar.

Tank3875

The fact that you see something "far more cruel" as justice is also problematic imo. The point of justice shouldn't be to punish anyone; it should be to keep the public safe. I see no good reason for us to make life in prison worse than life on the outside, other than the minimum security necessary to keep people inside.

NerdyGothKitty

It is trivially easy to re-enable it though. Seriously just google a tutorial.

NerdyGothKitty

Exactly this. Causing suffering is the opposite of justice. The goal should be to keep people safe while respecting the human dignity of every person, including the worst kinds of criminals that didn't show that respect to any of their victims. We need to be better than they were, not respond to them in kind.

NerdyGothKitty

You acknowledge the system can be corrupt and or inhuman (and often enough proved itself to be this way) but you still support capital punishment? Truly wild take. And the "necessary sacrifices" sounds convincing only as long as it doesn't affect people you know care about.

ZackdasBohne

I'm one of those person whom got no decoration at home, to me it's useless and not practical. I don't stay long in the same place, hell, I don't stay long in the same city so I don't care much about stuff that have no real usefullness and are just thing you look at the first week and then forgot about it.

Matthias

The system is broken, so to have death as a punishment when it has been proven that with enough resources the system can be manipulated, is absolutely irresponsible. Who’s stopping someone with enough resources from using the broken system to settle their own issues.

Hugo Andres Lozano

Exactly! We are essentially setting a number of innocent lives that we are willing to trade in the pursuit of revenge. And the fact that we can set any sort of number on that pursuit is saddening to see.

Hugo Andres Lozano

Being no better is debatable, I mean if you slap me and I slap you back, you're still worse, because you did it first, I only did it in retaliation. However, I do agree that retributive 'justice' is kinda dumb. Like, sure, we all feel like we just want someone else to suffer when they do something horrible, we all get that feeling, but who the F is their suffering helping? Nobody. Deriving joy out of someone else's suffering is the mentality of a psycopath, we as a society should be better than that. We should be past public executions meant to entertain crowds, watching heads roll and nooses tighten is not something we should derive joy out of. Put them in prison, let them live out their life somewhere they cannot ever hurt anybody, doing anything more would just be for one's on perverse satisfaction of watching someone suffer, and that's not a good thing.

David Bodor

That’s always been my way of thinking, why give someone swift release of death when rotting in prison is more of a punishment. By giving capital punishment you are taking away a persons ability to be proven innocent if they are indeed innocent and if they are not they get an easy out.

Hugo Andres Lozano

Not only that but, in pursuing capital punishment you become no better than a murderer who kills out of revenge because that’s what it is, the person won’t be getting out of prison so there’s no way to argue that it’s so they don’t commit more crimes, it is simply a way for people to legally kill someone who committed a crime, in pursuing the capital punishment you become someone who wants to kill someone that doesn’t need to die rather than someone who doesn’t want to kill someone who needs to die because it is the only way to preserve human life

Hugo Andres Lozano

I got a poster of kakyoin doing the lelolelo for the memes, a displate of the hollow knight map and various paintings i've done in my place. Couldn't imagine it bare that's just boring.

Kieren

Him just leaving isnt suspicious considering they are working against eachother in court and like he said they shouldnt really be talking

Immeasurably Me

Adblock... you were supposed to destroy the Sith, not join them!

Malkalypse

Thing is vigilantism does breed chaos but at least it's chaos of our own making and not by a corrupt goverment

jimmy fallonsdad

The two big problems with capital punishment are: 1 - You can never really 100% prove a person is guilty. We've had hundreds of cases where new evidence showed the person that was executed was actually innocent. This was especially notable with DNA testing and you can never know when new tech will come around that will exonerate even more people. 2 - The system can abuse these powers to kill people they don't like. There's been cases of this all throughout history, and death is not something that can be undone later if mistakes or intentional abuse is found.

David Bodor

When u talked about capital punishment it reminded me of a story I saw recently where this man is given the death penalty he's proven innocent and they just refuse to take him off the death row and people are trying to petition to take him off and the government just refuses to thliksomething recent to its insane I just believe even if u are guilty death is more of a way out then punishment

VonZale Carson

I can't trust the state to be flawless. Death can't be reversed, there is no way to make amends with the dead. An unjustly imprisoned person can be compensated to an extend for the injustice done to them. The death penalty is to final given our flawed performance within the systems.

Jobbe Smit

I completely understand the view on capital punishment being used for the truly and objectively irredeemable. But like you pointed out, there's always the issue of "who decides who or what is irredeemable?". I'm a pretty vengeful person myself, but even I realise there would need to be a lot of checks and processes and due diligence before resorting to that. That being said though, I think one reason a lot of people are comfortable without capital punishment is that life in a lot of prisons can often be much worse than death. I've heard some pretty messed up things about even just California prisons, so I can't fathom what life is like in some other places. To be fair, I think a big part of the problem here is in fact how harsh prisons can be, and how they often aren't really designed for rehabilitation or just don't put much effort into it. In a lot of places they're still run like a business like any other, so it's often not in their best interests to put effort into rehabilitating even their minor inmates, resulting in a sort of "revolving door" effect where a lot of even petty criminals just end up right back in prison even when released. If prisons were actually used as centers for rehabilitation where minor offenders had a chance to set their lives straight, maybe there could be more of an argument for capital punishment in place of true life-sentences. I'm no expert in criminal justice ofc so I could be missing more nuance or complications here.

Convergeman

On capital punishment, I'm the opposite. As I grew older I realized more and more how barbaric an unhelpful a practice it is. It solves nothing, and it risks murdering the innocent. All it is, is institutionalized blind revenge. Every person put behind bars has a chance of either reforming, or being altogether innocent. Just because there are some truly evil people who can't change, does not mean none of them will, and it is impossible for the justice system to be flawless. (Lord knows it has issues right now.) You can't make executing someone better if you were wrong. But you can try if you 'merely' robbed them of time. Capital punishment is also societally bad, because we don't want to live in a society where ending people is seen as normal. Because that can very easily be twisted by evil people to justify permanently removing innocent people whom they have simply labeled as bad. *Gestures at everything being said about Trans people and immigrants right now*

Blackbaldrik

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bvsfang

ooooh good point, now I'm excited

Starchaser

i love this show

Gildarts1#fan

This. So many innocent people have been given the death penalty already, it's not worth having it. There's still to this day, cases where new evidence exonorates people who were either executed or are on death's row. Not to mention executions in the past, that were done intentionally by corrupt government officials. There was one case in the UK decades ago, where a policeman was also a serial killer, and his neighbour was executed for his crimes, because nobody thought a policeman could be a serial killer...how naive, but that just came with the times I guess.

David Bodor

I have four fantasy maps on my walls, the known world of Westros and Essos from A Song of Ice and Fire (it hangs over my lil library), two Elder Scrolls maps in a single frame, another just under my collectables on dual shelves, and a old Fallout 3 map. In addition I have a poster from Stupendium's Outer Worlds video, and one _haunting_ King in Yellow picture, two banners from ESO (Cult of Hircine and the Ebonheart Pact), a Fallout NCR flag over my window, a old school clockwork wall clock above my mini fridge, and lastly two bronze colored comedy and tragedy masks above my light switch by the door. I h a t e bare walls.

Afell Tale

Seeing Alicia's moral view I wonder what her reaction to our friend in the skull shirt will be?

brody benton-haskins

I don't think there's any system of any kind that is flawless. Sure, we can fix it to near flawless state if we are really good but it will eventually make mistakes again. So we have to ask again... How many innocent people are we ok with dying for the sake of keeping capital punishment. I'm not here to moralize, or to draw some specific line, I keep that on reddit lol, I just wanted to point out that specific point of view.

hb.beny

I am putting up the poster from a Welcome to Night Vale live show I almost went to as soon as I can

largo778 .

I can't stop thinking about how funny it would look if mat actually fell down a manhole by accident.

TSP247

If the system works the way it's suppose to then there is a very minimal risk of that. That said, we should hold of on capital punishment until we fix the system. And remember: capital punishment doesn't reduce crime in general, but it will reduce crime in the spacific

largo778 .

this show has so much more to give. It's soo good.

Julio 🤔

With capital punishment the thing is, yes, there are people who just did so many awful things and no amount of rehabilitation will redeem them, but are you fine with the risk of someone innocent dying as well? Do you think that it's ok to kill sometimes an innocent person who got wrong verdict, as long as the 'evil' people die too when they could have 'just' been sentenced to life long imprisonment? Oh well... Just a thought.

hb.beny

I don't even wear shirts without art on them, you better believe my walls are plastered in it. Gotta have those pretty images

AbsurdToastling

This series is soooo good

Andrew birds

always liked the phrase "those who kill should be prepared to be killed"

AonixGhostlyQ

The library..? THAT WAS A REFERENCE THIS WHOLE TIME?!

Pockets

The thing is with the Netflix shows is that they're more loosely connected to the MCU. Besides a few references to other heroes here and there they exist as their own stories. So I wouldn't worry for spoilers as far as Daredevil goes.

Cody

Fisk is no joke in hand to hand combat. In the comics he’s like a black belt in karate and is trained in Sumo fighting. He’s gotten into a number of fisticuff contests with both Spider-Man and Daredevil and come out on top.

BakaSama

AHHHHHHHHHH!!! Even a cliff hanger of you reacting to this is crazy, can't wait till you react to the next episode

Pawoof_

NGL the way fisk tries to erase his past reminds me of Diabolo from part 5 of jojo

Jaffar Black Fang

May still be my favorite Marvel Television episode ever produced, and that is saying something

Robert Collard

Nelson v. Murdock here we go!!!!!

Vidolin

I've seen that adblock ad too. It's the most tone deaf and ironic ad I think I've ever seen. "Here's an ad about all those ads we blocked! You're welcome, please more money!"

Smiling_Jack

Still works perfectly on Opera GX

Flastyy

All of the Netflix Marvel shows ended before Infinity War was even announced, she could binge all of them before watching Endgame if she wanted to and not get a single spoiler

Flastyy

Hey so this is my first time watching Daredevil with Alica or any of the Netflix marvel. But as someone whose watched all of disney+ MCU. Do we need a stopping point before we get to spoiler town? The other marvel shows like loki, wanda vision. Moon knight. And a certain series that won't spoil this or vice versa? I guess I'm asking for myself and Alica what's a proper timeline of shows/movies to watch starting from endgame? Cuz I know we kinda need to watch xmen and other fox marvel movies before a certain point for sure

Hexx Gear

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Magikltrevr

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rainyfriday

Yeah, same. I'm of two minds where I believe in things like rehab and the like and know at least our legal system is unreliable to the extent that it's really not worth the risk. On the other hand, if I actually gave stock to the angry/malicious mind then I still wouldn't believe in capital punishment since I think we're plenty capable of bringing Hell to Earth whereas I don't know that Hell exists after death.

Mariner 二

57:50 POV: You're Peter Parker in Spiderverse 1

Sam Brown

For Ad-Blockers, use uBlock Origin, Alicia.

Kalean

Thanks for the accidental adblock recommendation Alicia I was actually looking for a new adblocker since the old one I used got pulled from chrome extensions

Karatsuki

Fair point. I am a little concerned that the 5-10 percent innocent will end up getting the mental torture tho XD But i get what you mean

Cabo Boose

Between 5 to 10 percent of Death Row victims are innocent, which is why I can't stand behind the death penalty. Too big a risk. I also think death is far too easy. I'd rather lock someone up in a hole forever. Far more satisfying and crueler to force someone to live as long as possible and find creative ways to mentally torture them than simply killing them.

Patrick Waldeck

i literally just refreshed lol

Yagi di Hoshi


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