Black Widow

but i loved it and thats what matters :3

Tilly Trickthot

because its fucking garbage i wanted to bash my head against a wall when i had to watch this because my girlfriend wanted too

random gamer

I can't wait for her to get to thundebolts*, its soooo much better than this

Loki

Sooo, love your commentaries, but you're kind of miserable during this one just saying

5Tom51

I had real high hopes for this one, since I really like Black Widow and Captain Marvel beat my expectations. But once Taskmaster showed up, one of my top 10 Marvel characters (formerly top 5 even), I just knew I was going to be let down. Now either this movie actually was a 5/10 for me in its entirety, or the first half was so forgettable that I can only remember the nice enough second half :/

CeCactus13

50:00 the issue with Disney and Hollywood is that they despise Femme Fatale character type.. they hate the point that a woman uses her strength in her beauty to sway the outcome her way, instead they want her to be all muscles and flat in their personality like terminators, not showing any femininity at all except for being toxic and snarky thoward men

Zolfried

volume of the movie was very low, i pretty much watch this with reading the subs the entire time cause i cant hear what they are saying :(

Zolfried

I feel like this movie could have been saved with good editing.

Malkalypse

big disagree on the talk about "powerful women" a character can be a b*tch if it's written well, Cpatain marvel and all the characters in the movie were awfuly boring, I watched the movie 3 times rewatching the mcu and don't remember a single scene. I'd rate Black widow a 6/10 it's still a good action movie introducing some cool characters even tho there are a few issues in the scenario. Captain marvel is a 1/10 sicne watching grass grow would be more entertaining.

Fenronin (Dorian Dubourg)

I give it a 2. I felt like they forgot who Black Widow was, if this was before she met Iron Man I would forgive it more. It like they didn't do their homework on her.

Crawlingchaos03

If that nerve needed to be severed so Black Widow couldn’t be controlled, WHY DIDN’T THEY SURGICALLY SEVER IT BEFOREHAND?!!!

YeCrustModifier

woah really. You think no way home is just straight up average? And you don't like ANY of the movies? Even the general public agrees that there are a few good movies in there such as Gotg vol 3, shang chi, and maybe even deadpool and wolverine.

Joe Shmoe

I mean, I feel like she’ll enjoy pretty much everything that came out in 2021 except for a certain animated series, 2022 and early 2023 was where the real problems were but there were still many bright spots

C Tuley

Not gonna lie, validating as hell to hear your criticisms of post endgame marvel. The defenders really make you feel like the last sane person on earth sometimes.

Rowdeemunkee

It’s really regrettable that they kill all of the hero’s at one point or another, and mostly like this. There’s a couple of outliers I’d say are totally great movies, but 85% of Marvel after Endgame just… sucks.

Tachyon Fast

Oof. If you didn’t like this one, there’s NO WAY you’re going to enjoy some of the ones coming up.

ZachBrickowski

I was so disappointed with taskmaster. An amazing villain for any hero reduced to absolute garbage. Widow deserved so much better than this as her memorial.

Noahthehoneyboy

Alicia you need ot have babies as soon as possible. because its so unfair that so many people can just have a baby then be such a shitty parent to them, but I know when you finally have your kid, I know they are gonna be the most well looked after, strongest, most decent person you could possibly raise.

zLaurence2000

I’ve watched most of the MCU stuff, and this is the worst I’ve seen. Natasha deserved better.

Hotaru Tomoe

sorry but the hate it gets is very much warranted. saying its on the same level as the other origin movies is bananas

Santi

I disagree with this. A series like Game of Thrones would not work if all the characters were written to be either gender. Having a society with gender roles and biases lends a certain verisimilitude to a world. But maybe I’m misunderstanding your comment.

Rakoon Shampoo

The screenplay for this one was done by a man who also wrote for thor: ragnorok. Apparently he also has uncredited writing for spiderman homecoming, and antman, which shows that hes more of a comedic and innocent type of writer, but then also has worked in infinity war and endgame😭😭😭. Hes got good credits so idk what went wrong here

Klaus

Mj, captain marvel, wanda, natasha, maria hill, peggy, ant mans ex wife, ant mans new girlfriend, aunt may, the wakandan women, the valkarie, lady sif, pepper potts, gamora and nebula and many more women have been written well by marvel, so i dont think its fair to say the way yelena was written in this movie is marvels attempt at writing a strong modernised female character. I think they was literally going for a bitchy younger sibling who lives in spite because of the way she was raised. Therefore i dont really have an issue with her dialogue and overall character. However, there are some characters in the future that raise question marks

Klaus

You're in the Marvel decline now. I've of the opinion that the only thing of any quality to come out after Endgame is No Way Home and that's a 5/10. It has 10/10 highs but 1/10 lows.

Trevor Wingard

On re-watching this over and over again I kind of enjoy it more but it’s still a bad movie compared to the other Marvel movies. Disney did Scarlett Johansson dirty. She should’ve had her own movie before her character died on the plus side all these characters they introduced go on to do much better Stories, including one coming out this May which I’m very excited for you should probably watch the Hawkeye series because it’s actually a really good series and it continues the storyline that we’re on.

Daisy Azuras

I wasn't as familiar with Taskmaster until playing him in Marvel Heroes - was a super fun amalgam of iconic moves

Rhodair

Yeah, and even "skilled assassin with photographic memory" undersells his skill - it's like "photographic reflexes" where he can perfectly mimic any action after seeing it once. He may not exactly have super powers, but someone being at the fighting skill level of the world's greatest. What always urks me is they should just make a unique villain if the character's going to be entirely different! It always sucks when they tease the name and imagery, but then character gets completely cast aside.

Rhodair

Yeah, i did not like this movie, but nothing makes me mad more than the fact that they wasted taskmaster on this, in the comics, he is a badass mercenary with a photographic memory and a top-level threat and they could have used him for the latest captain america movie, but just wasted opportunity making it a part of this movie. I would have loved if this movie had been about hawkeye and black widow in budapest, cause i feel like they should have had a joint movie like that for both of their origin films but wishful thinking i guess.

Draconic

i really dont like how much hate this movie gets. like sure its not perfect by any means but i actually really enjoyed this movie. like i cant mention i enjoyed it without people shitting on it, and yeah i agree it has issues but its frustrating trying to engage with it now. it shouldnt have taken this long for a standalone black widow movie, and i agree that the quality isnt on par with like. endgame. but compared to literally any other og origin movie? like compare it to thor, to cap 1, to iron man. its certainly nothing special but its a pretty normal origin movie, which is really what it shouldve been treated as. people are just way too critical of every single scene when they watch it and its hard to enjoy when every moment gets made fun of instead of just. watching a movie

blorbothefrog

that end credit scene continues in the Disney+ show hawkeye

Steve Cushman

i know people hated that they changed taskmaster so much. from male skilled assassin with photographic memory, to female science experiment

Steve Cushman

Its almost impossible for me to hear the dialog and still have you at a volume where my eardrums dont rupture

Urganot

dont forget about loki! best one imo

FieryMoto

Honestly yea... 3/10 is a valid one for this movie. It was definitely rushed and all over the place since this came out during quarantine, but valid points. I will say this is around the point where I think watching the Disney+ shows alongside the films becomes MUCH more necessary, since I think WandaVision and Falcon & The Winter Soldier came out before this but u don't need to see them until you get to the next movie or so. Proud of you for pushing through this release tho Alicia, its a tough one for new watchers XD

Jessica Carsons

Here begins the bad part you'll have to see the TV series if you want to know what's happening

Report_pyke

It really isn't.

Hellguin

Yelena herself isn't a new creation, she's been around for decades but the only people who knew who she was were the people who think of her as Black Widow's (subtextual) girlfriend. In the source material she's no more Natasha's sister than Sin Mal, Bronya, and Seele are, she's someone who in the grand Toxic Yuri tradition, idolized Black Widow, grew to hate her, became obsessed with her and was sent to kill her, and became her ally, and THEN when she gets mind-controlled, it becomes Doomed Yuri that packs a punch Spy vs spy stuff has such a strong history of romantic undertones that it looks like Disney wanted so desperately to avoid them being shipped together that it wrote these versions as siblings

Verdigree

Normally, I agree with you, but she’s supposed to be a bitch because she’s angry at her sister. She blames her sister for everything that happened to her afterward being sucked into the red room having all that torture done or losing her family even though it was a fake family. It was still her family. She grew up with them as a small child And then when the black widow leaves and joins up with the avengers, switching sides, she’s left alone with all of her abusive Russian people and so of course she’s being a snarky bitch because she thinks her sister is a coward.

Daisy Azuras

and now we begin the falloff (imo) of Marvel, lol

SolidFiction

Yelena didn't show up for Endgame because she didn't exist for it. The same with all the other Widows, Melina and Red Chunk. In a way this is kind of why I don't like a lot of flashback movies. Fight choreography was pretty good, the 'present day' family moments were usually fun, and there was enough subterfuge that showed the writing of Winter Soldier wasn't a lost technique. While there was a fair bit of backlash over Taskmaster being a girl (he's a man in the comics, also one that around the same age as Nat) I didn't mind it for the MCU, I was a bit annoyed that they finally 'explained' Budapest in this... half-assed manner. However, I think what ultimately doomed this movie, was that it was both done too late, and poorly handled for Natasha's final appearance in the franchise. Though aside Black Widow, I'm now curious how you are going to handle phase 4 proper. Guess I'll have to wait until Monday.

Arashi

the only reason I liked this movie is because it introduces Taskmaster and the Red Guardian into the MCU for future movies.

TSP247

I feel like this movie gets unnecessary hate. Its not the top-tier but its a decent spy movie. I think the movie struggled between the light hearted sister banter and the really dark subject matter. They bicker so much and I love it, but it clashes with the dark trauma story at times. And Natasha is pushing away the sister/family dynamic because this is RIGHT after Civil War, when her new found family just tore itself apart. She is very much in a bad space. Recall with her buddy that got her the ID she is pushing him away too.

Benjamin Keppel

Mind control is just so lazy.

Okoga

Pleeeeeeeeease don't skip the shows! Wandavision and Falcon & Winter Soldier should come before Black Widow. A lot of the shows are great, like Wandavision is amazing and Falcon&WS is really good too. Plus lots of movies assume you've seen the shows that come before them, like the woman in the post-credits scene of this movie is someone you should have already met. Of course, seeing the shows wouldn't have saved this god awful dumpster fire of a movie. But still.

Gyrospin

Slop Movie No. 1 of 5 is in the books! Hopefully she loves Shang-Chi. This was the first time I really felt like Marvel had lost some of its magic after Endgame. It was weird—after spending six years hearing a friend complain about Marvel movies, I suddenly found myself feeling the same way for the first time. Sadly, I’ve had that feeling with quite a few of the movies and about half the shows since then. Here’s hoping Marvel can keep the momentum going with solid content like Daredevil: Born Again and (fingers crossed) Thunderbolts! Also Florence Pugh is gem and i cant wait for her to take on more a role in future movies!

Purported74

to write a good male/female character. write a story with a genderless hero. no male bravado, no feminist agenda

Steve Cushman

Taskmaster was one of the biggest shits of the mcu

Az256

Nah, there's plenty of weaker MCU stuff pre-Endgame, and plenty of great stuff post. The whole "everything before Endgame was perfect, everything after is shit" narrative is overblown.

Kieron Hayes

18:00 that would have been cool but you are in the post end game now, you dont get cool things anymore. Except deadpool and spiderman

Sage of All knowing

For me this is one of the worst movies ever and it is because of personal reason ofcourse. I hate what they did with task master. He is such cool villain, having photographic memory. Copying moves of the person he fights but they made him just throwaway villain, when he was such cunning and smart villain. Ahh downfall is real. Only movie I hate more is Dr strange 2. That is probably the worst Mcu movie for me.

Sage of All knowing

I started watching and was like "Wow I forgot how good this movie was." Then we got past the 1995 flashback and realised I was just forgetting they blew the whole budget on the first 10 minutes then remembered they need to make the rest of the film. I can't bring myself to finish watching the whole thing either lol

Pablonius

Wow, I forgot how rough the introduction of Yelena was.

Kinky

Was it just me who heard Alicia saying laid instead of blade?? LMFAO

Joyo Boy

also Shang-chi is a really good movie (except the final fight)

Dragonfire

a movie I suggest is jojo rabbit a good movie to watch and has better writing with scarlet Johanssen in it. Would probably help forgetting this movie.

Darian Hawkins

I think Black Widow is pretty representative of the post end game marvel movies as a whole. Theres a lot of opportunity for good story telling but it just never takes advantage of that. I think the only well received marvel films of this phase were Spiderman and the second Black Panther

stijn Arts

She sucks at the start of this movie tbh. Grew on me a bit over time

stijn Arts

Welcome to the end game

Bera

Honestly I think this movie is fine but I hate what they did with taskmaster in this one he was a cool villain with some good lore but in this the villain feels more like a throwaway villain

James Fernandez

Looking at the timeline I felt both this movie and Captain Marvel could have been done immediately after Civil War and that both being where they were hurt them greatly, though COVID obviously hurt Black Widow more. To me the only good thing about this movie is bringing Florence Pugh into the MCU, as I think her and Iman Vellani of Miss Marvel are far and away the two actors who fit their roles perfectly post Endgame.

Robert Collard

After watching this reaction .. the SNL skit with Colin Jost, and Micheal che swapping jokes even better in way.

Mmidnight Mistake

this movie should have come out years before endgame, like in phase 2. sad that hawkeye and widow didn't get an introductory movie like the other avengers. and the reason yelena was so angry and bitchy at the beginning is because she thought her whole family betrayed her. she didn't know it was a cover, like she said, she thought they were really her family.

Greywalker

Yeah I did tell you earlier that after the MCU peaked at Endgame, it's all downhill from there... If you thought this movie was disappointing, oh lord just you wait, it's only going to get so much worse from here! Black Widow is nowhere near the worst MCU film, and further entries just keep degrading/reducing in overall quality and become more and more painful to watch as the series de-evolves overtime... Sure there is occasionally a decent film here and there (I'd say let us pick which ones you should watch next, it will save you so much suffering), but for the most part the MCU has consistently gotten gradually worse overtime... If you still want to continue watching the MCU, then prepare yourself for the absolute worst going forward, as Marvel slowly goes all the way downhill until it hits rock bottom, and then goes even further below that as MCU digs its own grave deeper and deeper to no conceivable end, much like Disney itself!

Arian Khalil

“I struggled” is the most valid response to this movie lol

MarakamiSG

can you just watch spider-man no way home next because that movie is actually amazing

Lists Lido

I didn't hate this... didn't like it either... kinda 5/10 for me. Also I love your singing voice.

DeathHawk31

Yeah... this is where we start to go down in quality of these movies because Disney wanted this stuff out as quick as possible. Still a lot of really good movies and the most of the TV shows are fantastic and definitely need to be watched for some of the movies to make sense.

Chris Garcia Yanez

True

Vendacator

Still think this is better than captain marvel.

Bowman C.

I really hope Loki and Wandavision are coming up. Enjoyed the reaction!

MrZamnes

I think what made this movie so rough was that the skeleton of a good movie was there. The writing wasn't the skeleton, obviously, but instead of fleshing out the skeleton properly, it's like they slapped horse meat on a giraffe skeleton. I feel like at least half of the writers were at least mostly trying. (Unlike Dr. Strange 2, where the skeleton was in pieces and the writing team was doing the screenplay equivalent of jerking off in the audience's faces)

Bologna Amputation

The start of Disney + was the beginning of The end of The quality from some Marvel movies. The writer ve got Not enough Money but also have to make a larger fanbase Happy. This movie for example was Just a month in The theatre and was very fast released on Disney +. The next bs ist Kevin Feige said you dont have to watch The TV Shows they produce in disney + to understand The movies . Yeah The Clash between Yelena and Hawkey Happens in a TV Show. You have to watch The TV Shows to understand The movies. The next movies you will watch are good but bs with No Kontext.

JansWichtig

I skipped to the end of this reaction to see the rating because I didn't want to sit through the movie. The 3/10 rating reaffirmed my decision.

PerfectYarn

Yelena is the best part of this and every marvel thing shes shown up in. I love her.

Maddie the witch

yeah I don't know what happened. For the first 30 minutes Alicia seemed to enjoy this. There was nothing wrong at all. There was a good family dynamic, good fight scenes.. Then I guess she took a break and came back upset at something?

YukoValis

From this point on, I started skipping movies and watching only those people said were good. I cannot keep up with trading quality for quantity

Cusi707

welcome to the beginning of the new quality standard...

Randomocity732

55:50 so this movie is not one of my favorites, but i do like Elena a lot, and Alexei banter was fun sometimes, and the dry humor of the mom "we are going into a vertical uncontrollable dive" etc. but for this i do believe that the movie was made during COVID times so maybe they were limited on logistics and bringing characters like Barton etc? i dont know.. i definitely feel like this movie could have been much better if it was before infinity war and if they cut the BS on the "female movement" thing.. no offense but i used to say i was a feminist but now i say i'm an equalitarian i guess... because the feminist movement has been contradicting in what they want to be seen as vs what they do or say, so i believe that it's even affected writing and plot points because of that unrealistic garbage and agendas

Cyber

Oof. Having seen this movie before, and seeing the title here, and watching Alicia's intro... already wincing cause I know what's about to happen >_<

Shatol Darmelo

I'm just a smooth brained consumer.

Taka

I really loved the fair and patient critique of the movie. I mostly just see lots of rage bait about this movie. I still don't think it's good, but I want to personally acknowledge that it has good parts that I genuinely enjoyed. That said, if you want a badass spy movie with a woman protagonist, I'd recommend SALT.

Gabrielle Martinez

Honestly 3/10 is way to harsh, i like this movie a lot and honestly like it a lot more than some of the other marvel movies. It came out at awkward time, but that doesn't affect the film quality.

Lektro

Ooo, this is where the shows come in, cant wait for some of those reactions

Kyle Emery

there's some banger movies/shows in phase 4/5... but yea most of it is mid to bad lol

Cardboard

I legit almost clicked off to watch it on patreon, forgetting I was already there. I'm dum.

Seroili

Also we NEED Blade deadpool wondavision reactions :)

Miguel Luna

Pretty sure this is where they start to hurt

eratrue

Spiderman/Gardians cry fest comming soon

Miguel Luna

I think that this movie suffered from it's time in Development Hell. It kept getting changed and pushed back and it really messed with the flow and it came out at a really bad time. While this is definitely not one of Marvel's best movies, I don't think its actually BAD, I think its just a 6/10. What the movie does well is the Family scenes, they feel like an actual family. Yes Yelena was a bit pissy with Natasha, but I think her feelings towards Natasha were 100% Valid, as she thought her sister completely abandoned her, and Natasha did completely cut all investigation into the Red Room by doing what she did and not following it up with proper investigation. While I know the writing in this movie could have been better, I think it is Accurate writing in A LOT of scenes. People don't talk perfectly, they are sloppy creatures who often say things they don't mean or say the wrong thing entirely out of Anger or out of Misunderstanding, and they have had a ton of misunderstandings and been told a lot of lies their entire lives. Every time the family was on screen together I loved, it felt so damn real. I love Red Guardian and I like Yelena more then I like Natasha. I can't wait till you start watching the shows, I think you will like Yelena a lot more once she isn't being hampered like she was in this movie. Also, the Widows aren't super soldiers, they are just very good assassins thanks to their programming. While some of them would still be good soldiers, I doubt most of them ever want to fight again. Its not like they would have been of use against Thanos either, Natasha really wasn't either, the Widows are mostly Street Level characters, they are good at fighting other humans, but they aren't even as strong as Cap physically. Their programming made them ignore pain and human emotions, and made them into good fighters, but that programming is gone now, they would have the same motivation to fight as anybody else would. If you saw Thanos coming towards you, would you rush in to try and use Judo on him?

Switchchris27

Will Alicia watch the series? Honestly I don't remember what cames next.

Felix Rojas V.

And so begins the downward spiral, at least you still have Spider-man no way home to look forward to.

Morris and his code

This!!! The one good thing to come out of this movie was Yelena.

Bj Howe

I am surprised you said you hated the first hour, considering you also liked the first 10 mins a lot. The middle definitely slugs and the end has some bad visuals, but not the worst Marvel movie imo, definitely better than Hulk 2008 for me. I know the production of this one was pretty fraught.

David Bodor

Natasha deserved a movie sooner. I didn't watch this movie till now because when it came out I was thinking "You just killed her!! You should have made this before endgame!" It is partly why i don't like the Captain Marvel movie, they made a movie introducing a new character, but don't do Natasha's until after she's dead.

JosephBob

shang-chi is actually a GEM i went into it expecting like a 6/10 and i got a solid 8.5/10 honestly one of the better ones from the best phase for sure.

marlanes

I think lile 60% of thos movie was good, but the other 40% kinda leaves a bad taste. Character wise I think they were good, Yelena was fantastic here and in Hawkeye and I liked Red Guardian too and I am really excited to see them both in Thunderbolts. World building wise having a bunch of widows out on the world is cool, of they do something with it in the future. The biggest issue was Dreykov and the dumb mind control mcguffin and the constant exposition dumps

David Bodor

This isn’t my favorite wreck movie, but I mostly enjoyed it. I like alexei and yelena

Andrew birds

Next on - Shang-Chi I think - should be more fun...

DanielTheHamster

This movie really marked the fall of the mcu. There are still great movies up ahead, but more mid or straight-up awful ones than good ones. I do think a couple of the upcoming movies won't be so bad though! Shang-chi is an underrated gem imo. Another movie she will react to very soon is also really good (You should know which one I'm talking about)

Joe Shmoe

I mean it's slightly better than Captain Marvel movie. I mean both of them had a lot of flaws, like a lot

Jeff The Killer

I hope Alicia will stay open about how she feels. I was a little surprised at the cut about how she was feeling. Also i think everything with the character Black Widow is cursed. On paper she sounds amazing but in practice her stories seem to flop often

Cole Savoie

yeah, taskmaster is such a cool character and they made him into a brainwashed servant and genderswapped him for some reason. Man, I love Taskmaster, I'm sad just thinking about the wasted potential.

Joe Shmoe

47:01 Her sister didn't have a door to protect her arm from the street as the car slid on the passenger side towards the subway entrance

Trevor Appel

Wait wait Pearlmutter did what this time? I mean I thought this was well after the Inhumans push in comics that was his idea failed massively why did anyone listen

Ballad Snowfox

Taskmaster is the only MCU adaptation that reaches the lows of stuff like Deadpool in Wolverine Origins. I definitely blame Pearlmutter and his idiotic ideas on female led superhero movies. That guy is the main reason there wasn’t a Black Widow movie at a time when it would make sense.

Ranginald Vagel

After rewatchting this I'm very excited for you to see where that end credit scene goes. Yelena is great and this movie doesn't do her justice.

BigNotori

Yeah this movie isn't great and a lot of movies from here on aren't super great. But Shang-Chi is pretty enjoyable and that's next week!

Sniper Delta

"Anyone in that writing room, don't touch anything. Walk away." Oh boy.

The Force

Aw, looks like you didn't like this one very much D: That's alright, they can't all be winners in your eyes! I agree, this movie coming out AFTER Endgame was...certainly a choice. A choice mostly influenced by the real life stuff going on around it, but a choice nonetheless. It really should've been ABOUT the Budapest mission with her and Hawkeye, that would've been an awesome movie! I still liked it and had fun, and enjoyed your reaction all the same!

Joey245

The end credit scene for this leads into the Hawkeye series which would be good to react to. Its decent enough and leads into a couple other things

Michael Blacklock

Watched this only once, when it became available online after release. Enjoyed it on the first watch as much as you can enjoy a bad film and that was it. Definitely not the greatest film, but David Harbour definitely makes it more watchable, considering evything in the movie..... (for sure was not enjoyable the second time but at least it was watching it with Alicia)

Ali

Good luck going forward, not a lot of greats for a while from here

Kyle Necker

..i think i spoke too soon, the film tarted off a bit weak, got better, then just nosedived off a cliff my god.

Aethergoggles

I kinda skipped to the end after reading the comments and reading the caption, I personally have never seen this movie but I heard the complaints over the years, knowing how much she disliked it. (Second only to Fantasticf 4 2015.) I am scared to watch her reaction, like if she hates it that much I kind of don't want to see through it either, but GOOD THING SHE UPLOADED SERVERANCE SEASON 2 AND CLONE WARS, LETS GO!

Memento Forever

In the first avenger a serum is developed in the 40s that turned an 150 lb skeleton into a huge buff Chris Evans with super strength. I don’t think a little red smoke erasing brainwashing is that absurd in the MCU. 😂😂

Samuel Skillman

I forgot how bad this movie was to a female brainwashed task master to bad green screen nothing was good except the father's humor in my opinion

Tim Smith

This movie was made during covid and when disney was going through a change in leadership, just bad timing all around. I just feel like it got rushed and was pushed into disney +. I agree with others saying that the disney+ shows become part of the story at this point.

Jonathan Morello

I struggled so hard not to leave the theatre when I went to watch this movie. It was painful. Also the Disney+ Shows are kinda important cause they setup a lot of plot points for the movies. Especially Loki & WandaVision they are both basically must watch shows as they setup the new phase.

Vishal Karan

He could have been a secondary antagonist that just showed up in different movies because he was hired by the main antagonist, it would have been so cool.

ACVIFOR

First of, Shang-chi is great, and what's with everyone telling her to skip movies? Let her watch them and decide for herself

Shank Mugen

funny you should mention scar joe and contracts in this movie

Lance Ivy

Yeah this movie sucks big time. The biggest sin this movie commits is butchering Taskmaster as a character. Honestly Alicia, you're probably better off skipping Shang-Chi and Eternals because they're not much better IMO. Just skip to Spider-Man No Way Home and maybe Deadpool and Wolverine once you're finished with the Fox Marvel movies. It's all downhill from here.

Imperial Guard

Since I'm seeing it on multiple independent comments now I'll add in: Movie audio is much quieter than Alicia, I dunno how audio mixing/recording is handled just thought it's worth mentioning. Especially since we (my friend who I edit for and I) noticed recently that the preview on her audio meters aren't wholly accurate with a recent OBS update (they appear to be a good balance with her audio but are super quiet specifically when getting audio from browsers/video players.)

The Force

It's not, this has been a noticeable issue for me as well in recent movie stuff where the movie is just... weirdly quiet? I haven't mentioned it myself cause I've seen em all and know what's happening, I just need her reactions

The Force

I have a hard time suspending my disbelief that a puff of red smoke would be enough to simply erase a lifetime of training and mental brainwashing and immediately switch sides. Strong opening, God damn, ruined in an instant because "here get a small whiff of this powder" I'm told the movie will stretch the suspended belief much more than this and I'm already not looking forward to it.

Lunafan1k

Marvel Monday? But it’s Tuesday.

Genital WarThunder

is like 2 dnd players who just keep remembering a dnd oneshot that nobody else in their actual groups get, and they are just like "yeah, like the X incident" and they just go "its too long to tell, you had to be there to understand the reference"

Faroth

David Harbour is one of my favourite actors, (slightly biased as he's a distant relative) especially in stranger things and Violent night. Though this was my first time seeing this, has made me more excited for thunderbolts too.

Aethergoggles

I assume she'll watch the entire Daredevil Netflix series first.

KatoBen

Ooooh nononono Alexei didn't send the sisters to the red room! They got sent back to the red room after the mission, Ohio was part of their training. Alexei couldn't even have done anything about it, since he got sent to prison after the mission. And if he wasn't sent to prison, his options would have been to rebel, alone, against Soviet Russia or defect to America to be killed on the spot to hide the fact that Soviets had a super solider and to get rid of the damage he had caused. Dancing on the edge of a blade, death on both sides and the edge being prison for life. He never had any say in what happened to the girls. Agreed about the movie though. It's not great, but it does have bits that I enjoyed. The family dynamic is great and I love their personalities, even though the mom is a bit dull. Her personality fits, but that doesn't really help me like her. The movie suffered a lot of production... "set backs" to say it as kindly as possible. Basically Marvel execs didn't want to make it for the classic movie exec reasons, Covid lockdowns, it was generally a mess from what I've heard. I'm assuming the horrible green screen scene was added to make it so that Natasha didn't kill people this movie, which I get, but my god is that stupid writing and the scene rushed as hell. No joke, they might have forgotten to finish that scene.

I'm following way too many nsfw accounts to use a name here

There is no reason imo to believe Alicia is being bad faith or performatively mean to any movie. She’s given no reason for me to think she would do that. Occasionally she may or may not fuck with a movie to a degree that might confuse me, but as long as she’s being good faith in her reactions, I don’t care.

nervouspirate

I don’t get why they changed so much about task master. Putting aside the gender bending, task master had the mental ability to memorize and replicate people he fought to a T. In doing so however, he sacrificed his memory. This often leads to unwitting betrayals, and pieces of his past he forgot catching up to him tragically. To me this is WAY more interesting than what the movie gave us.

Ghost

I'm glad you watched this one on Twitch, dunno if I woulda made it through otherwise.

Rainet

I do feel like you were being overly harsh to this one. You seemed to enjoy most of it. You made a very long point in saying Yelena was being a bitch, but like she just got done being in a car wreck and was bleeding out. It seemed like she was just agitated. You also talked about them telling and not showing. I understand that I really do. The movie was doing a misdirect since Nat left out key details. They made up for it later with an actual showing. I know you are doing this whole Queen persona thing now, but please don't stop being just you. There was a lot of meanness in here that I don't remember seeing before. It concerns me.

YukoValis

No Loki and Wanda are on her radar. She’s probably tackling the big stuff (movies) before going after the mini series.

Connor Clemmons

i promise natasha sister actully gets a good script later and is very cool this movie is just awefull

Lance Ivy

i personaly never wanted to know what happened in budipest i liked it as a fun little nod to the audence we dont need to know everything

Lance Ivy

The only post-endgame movie i disliked was wakanda forever due to unbelievable character motives where it made no sense for them to make the choices they did. Everything else was good or mid but still enjoyable on the one time i watched them.

Immeasurably Me

"I thought black widow was an orphan" there isnt an age limit on your family dying. That couldve been her real family before they died and she would still be an orphan. They werent but your logic was off there

Immeasurably Me

Disagree, What If is a great show to watch just for the fun of it, its just not a priority

Goobert

Wait, Alicia is jumping the order for the MCU content, now? Wanda-Vision and Loki both came out before Blackwidow. I'm now a little worried she may not know about the MCU-mini series (I really need to see her react to Loki.)

KatoBen

Anyone know when she is going to start daredevil again

Sebastian Akosa

I liked this movie in spite of that. One bad representation of a character doesnt ruin a film for me if its not a main character.

Immeasurably Me

"drop off point" like iron man 2 and thor 2 were worth watching. Marvel has always had its mid to bad movies in the mcu dont pretend it was perfect up til now.

Immeasurably Me

I’m only speculating that there’s pick up shots in this movie because some of them reek so heavily of “Covid Production,” but the movie was only a month or 2 from coming out when full lockdown started so idk. Marvel’s been known from the start for shooting some shots really late for various reasons, but they’re such random shots here.

nervouspirate

This is the point Marvel truly Jumped the Shark™. Which ticks me off, because I honestly really like a lot of the characters we got, here. I really hate it when great characters are stuck in bad franchises. *cough* venom trilogy *cough*

A

this was a solid mid movie, I personally put it on the same level as captian marvel where I get bored trying to rewatch it, that tends to be the case for most of the movies from here on, but I absolutely love Red Guardian and Yelena, iconic

Archie Curlz

Cinematography wise, I am gonna warn you that you are entering Covid era Marvel. i think there was a couple pick up shots in this one, but later on you’re gonna be able to tell that no one was in the same room and Hollywood was hanging on by a thread. There’s some bangers imo, but the vaccine didn’t come out until Wakanda Forever & Ant-man 3 were in production and even then there’s some major actors in those movies that were anti-vax.

nervouspirate

This movie's so cool! Loved seeing it in theaters, it's still one of my favorites. Although the movie audio feels a bit quiet compared to Alicia's audio in this video, anyone else have this issue? Or is that just me and my autism sensory issues acting up again? lol

Joey245

Personally, I *strongly* disagree. I liked it when I first watched it and I liked it more as I watched it twice more. I personally don't understand the hate it got, but that's my thoughts.

The Seven Deadly Sins

Yeah, Far from Home marked the drop off point for Marvel. Shang-chi, Spider-Man 3, Guardians 3, and to a lesser degree Dr. Strange 2 are the only ones worth watching when it comes to the movies. Idk what your plan is for the shows but there’s quite a few you should probably skip. It’s upsetting to think that it’s possible for you to get sick of Marvel due to trudging through the bad shows and movies. Oh and Deadpool 3. Thank god for Deadpool and Wolverine.

Gai Valentine

And soon the eternals I will pray for you when you watch that. Cause dear God, that movie is complete trash. It's a** it's garbage. That movie was so bad. I walked out of the theater after 45 minutes of watching it. And then after it came out and they were allowed to air it on TV I watched it on TV and it was even worse than I remembered. And I watched the whole thing this time. I will never get that time back. Maybe you'll like it cause you're kind of a Normie You're not into the whole Marvel, comics you only watch the movies which isn't a bad thing but I guess a lot of the people who were just kind of normal non Marvel comics fans, they enjoyed it but as a marvel fan and the Marvel fanbase itself. We hated this movie. Well at least most of us did not all of us obviously. so I will be praying for you. When you watch that movie. Hopefully you'll enjoy it more than I did.

Iron_claw

I thought the TV shows were next?

Myles

From here on out, please just leave your brain switched off, it’s the best way to enjoy the MCU

Lukundra

Tbh one of the only two movies in the MCU that I would watch in parts 'cause damn, the pacing is like flowing tar

Oatmeal

why do you sing with a southern accent . now i wanna here you sing fancy

Lance Ivy

This was pretty much what a lot of people were saying about the mcu projects post phase 3. The movies after phase 3 are still decent but the filmmaking is lazy and it eventually becomes an obvious cash grab relying on the marvel reputation to keep fans coming. For me the only projects i really really like are shang chi, across the spiderverse (i count it as mcu) and no way home. No way home was still lazy but its still top tier idc😂

Klaus

Like saying rotten eggs are technically better to eat than broken glass.

Lukundra

Benji

Honestly, when it comes to the MCU Disney+ shows, you could probably still do them as a weekly monday thing, just do them as like, 3-6 episodes a week depending on the length of the series and the length of the episodes. For instance, Wandavision has 9 episodes, mostly half-hour with a few longer ones. 3 a week, or 5 and then 4 a week would be roughly equivalent to a movie per week. They really are important for the movies. Not only does the followup to the end credits scene happen in the shows, but you need Wandavision to have context for Dr Strange 2, you need Wandavision *and* Ms Marvel for The Marvels, you need Falcon and Winter Soldier for the most recent Captain America movie, You'll need Loki for Deadpool and Wolverine... Once they folded the tv shows into the same creative division as the movies, they started actually caring about what happens in them.

daverboy

Definitely make sure to watch the Disney+ shows, excluding maybe “What If…?” which IS GOOD, but is basically just alternate continuities.

Rakoon Shampoo

I thought the movie was fun. Definitely one of the more emotional openings which is a highlight imo. And it introduced us to some fun characters

Curtis Murphy

Really?

Curtis Murphy

Wait did she say she's skipping the shows?

Game Dragon

"I struggled" SAMEEE I legit fell asleep in the movie theater watching the black widow movie, no joke. It's the second movie I have ever fallen asleep to in the theater 😭 (the other was some artsy French movie without dialogue, was forced to watch it for school project wayyyy back)

WillGlacier

What about Wandavision? Falcon and Winter Soldier?

TwojaStaraIFrytki .

Blame Perlmutter and contracts. Dude didn't think woman (or black people) would sell toys so he wouldn't clear a Black Widow film (or a Black Panther film or a Captain Marvel film) and by the time he was gone, Scarlett's contract was set up to Endgame. Had to wait for it to end before they could re-negotiate for this film. And then Covid hit, fucking up the production and release.

CrimsonWarrior55

I would've liked this movie if they didn't ruin Taskmaster

Enchiladas

Agreed. Would much rather see her go through these with fresh eyes, but sadly, that just isn't as viable for a content creator. I may pop back in depending. But if the person reacting isn't enjoying the product, it kind of makes me sad. And I'm here for fun.

CrimsonWarrior55

Release order is messy from this point! Thankfully this one happens in the past, but if you continue watching the movies without the TV-shows, some of them movies will feel like it's missing pieces, like if it was cut up with a blade!

I'm following way too many nsfw accounts to use a name here

I very much enjoyed this film. Yeah, it's sloppy, but Covid was a bitch for everyone, so I don't mind giving it some leeway. Naturally, it's also very late, but that's Perlmutter's fault. Fuck that guy.

CrimsonWarrior55

I think Alicia can get away with watching this movie before anything else. It was actually scheduled to release before Wandavision but then the pandemic kinda screwed up those plans. But at one point, this was intended to be the start of Phase 4.

Joe Jennings

Would rather get a OP binge😂😂 this movie is wack and so out of place

Jack Collins

You are miserable

PhillyJ

This is certainly a movie

James Rhed

my concern about us skipping the shows aside, i quite like this movie, parts of it at least. honestly, just red guardian and yelena really, but i really like them so they make up for a lot of the rest

KuroOberon

So just gonna put it out there. Phase 1,2,3 leading up to Endgame was something insane that Marvel pulled off and pulled off well. Yeah there are a few movies that aren't my favorite but they did an overall awesome job. Problem is now they are trying to chase that and definitely not finding the same success. There are some good movies and shows but there are also a ton of mid to very bad ones this time.

Bj Howe

ALICIA WAIT!!! the disney+ shows start after the last movie and are equally as important as the movies, so you need to make sure to watch them in order mixed in with the movies, otherwise you'll be missing story elements going forward. Really hope you or Azu or someone sees this asap so you can course correct for next week!

KuroOberon

Welp, I personally love marvel from here on so since i see people poisoning your experience in the comments with chronically online group-think, this is where i get off. It was fun.

PhillyJ

Damn, she's about catch up to the films and then watch the shows after isn't she? Throwing the release order completely out the window 🤦🏾‍♂️

Logan McLeod

This was a fine 5/10 movie, but they really should have released it earlier

ACVIFOR

It is no exaggeration that I’ve been craving that weekly marvel drop, heck yeah!!! New Alicia marvel drop!!

Devlin Draconis

Ahhh... this one 😅

Vendacator

If the next movie is what I think it is then is watching the iron man 3 one shot a good idea? Or a spoiler?

Ok

The movie itself isn't bad, it's watchable with some good actors. i'd say 5/10

Gildarts1#fan

Well I'm gonna watch this at work if I get fired for falling asleep I'm using my severance pay to lock twitch chat in the dudgeon for a month.

Jacob

Blade

Nym

Falcon and Winter Soldier and Shang Chi were good too. Hell the Eternals was fun.

Lee Aguera

OMG I WATCHED THIS 4 YEARS AGO ON A SCHOOL TRIP WHEN IT RELEASED 😭😭

Johnny Joestar ✰ ྀིྀི

God the hope in the first 30 seconds.

Fei Ashtear

Start of the Mid-CU. You can look forward to Wanda Vision, Loki, Daredevil, GotG 3 Spider-Man 3, Deadpool 1-3, F&WS, Shang Chi, Eternals and Agents of Shield though.

N00B

Darn was really hoping for No Way Home. It would be out of release order but takes place immediately following Far From Home

Immeasurably Me

At least we got two new cool characters from this. ⚡️🔩

Ok

We've arrived. The beginning of the end.

Michael

I am so sorry for what you've been through

Fei Ashtear

It was neat But not my favorite would watch again if I’m doing a marvel binge

Julian Raygoza

Watched the second half with ya

Julian Raygoza