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Straw Hat Episode 418+419

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Straw Hat Episode 418+419

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Its true Alicia, when I turned 30, pussy justed started dropping from the sky... The only problem is I'm kinda asexual, so it doesn't really change much xD. Also I didn't use a spell so maybe it was just raining pussy

Luka Aleksijevic

Ding ding ding, there's the whole point of their characters. Being able to accept themselves and feel confident and free, despite the fact they obviously don't pull the looks off very well, and despite the fact they have free access to basically a cheat code level reversible instant surgery. It's not about being the butt of a joke, it's about telling people that they shouldn't abandon who they are inside or rely on body modification just because they feel too ugly or misshapen to pull off the looks they want. It's about expressing themselves, not the way they are perceived by other people like Sanji. This point was especially important to make before later introducing YMT, one I am personally fumingly jealous of, lookswise, as someone who hates their own masculinity and wishes I could have/could be like them.

Jonathan Jones

I definitely agree it was a bad choice to make the Okama (which is no more a slur than the word queer) so pushy to shove their lifestyle onto Sanji and create that kind of conflict, but if you're remarking on the Okama looking ugly or unlike women, taking it in a way that they are being the butt of a joke, you're entirely missing the point of their whole society, and the message Oda was trying to send with them. So many trans people and crossdressers never accept themselves because they believe they are ugly, or couldn't pass as what they want to be. Those characters have a beautiful message that being like that doesn't make you invalid, that there is a place for you in the world, and that it's okay to be who you are, even if you don't pull it off that well. I understand the kneejerk reaction to cringe at them and the way it's done, especially with Sanji's whole situation, but Sanji is meant to be an insert for Japanese people who feel the way Sanji does, and that, alongside the main storyline, was created in a way that could potentially make bigoted people begin to accept people like that in real life, or at least be more tolerant after seeing them help the main characters. As you said, One Piece is obviously an inclusive and progressive work, I feel like Oda was doing his best while keeping his target audience and culture in mind when framing the points he wanted to make. Perhaps, in classic One Piece absurdism and exaggeration, it tips the scale a bit from empowerment and freedom towards goofiness, but that's just the cartoonish setting of the world doing the thing it does in pretty much every facet of One Piece, in my opinion.

Jonathan Jones

New Kama Island, and by extension the people associated with it, is related to the concept of "Okama" which is essentially the Japanese word for queer. More specifically, it includes gay men, trans women, and straight men who are feminine, crossdress, or exhibit stereotypical traits associated with being gay, like a high pitched and/or overly expressive voice. Essentially, New Kama Island is a place for men and trans women who didn't fit into the regular One Piece societies. But yes, some of them, like a certain two big names, would be considered genderfluid, male and female. And though not confirmed, some are certainly nonbinary or otherwise nonconforming.

Jonathan Jones

Due to facts that have yet to be mentioned in the story, I believe there is an argument that the inhabitants of Peachy Island consider themselves to be both AND neither a man or woman. I could be wrong though.

Rosinante

aww this is when they started makign choppers body smaller and cuter

Adam Griffiths

Yee, yee. None of them ever seem unhappy with how they look. They all see themselves as beautiful and fuckin good for them. I'm jealous of that kind of positivity.

Cheeeeeeeeeeeeeeer

Absolutely! I think it comes off as making fun of at first, but when you're introduced to a certain character, I took it as "ehh they're probably happy with their looks, considering the existence of said character." Plus this series has one of the only gender fluid characters I've seen in anime or manga so far. Which is amazing and crazy, especially for the time.

Jonathan

I get that. Like, their looks being the butt of the joke is ew. But usually one piece treats characters like them surprisingly well for the time it was written. Including, of course, the ones you're referring to.

Cheeeeeeeeeeeeeeer

Yeah the Sanji stuff is a little rough to watch for me personally. That being said, while the representation is iffy, I can appreciate the message. Especially later in the series with some unnamed peoples.

Jonathan

Other than Nami cringing at his legs in Movie 8, I agree. But I am specifically mentioning characters that don't resemble stereotypes & are from before 2009

Yagi di Hoshi

Yeah....but to be fair at least Boa isn't like Sanji or Brook and want to sniff Luffy's underwear or something. And Luffy doesn't even care about her like that. So at the very least it's a little bit better than a Sanji situation. Could've been weirder.

Beefz

Yeah, I understand, I mean I'm not trans but... even though the okama are shown to be empowering individuals who choose to be free to be who-or whatever they want to be and that One Piece often exaggerates for the gag (a gag I did enjoy tbh), these represantations are way to over the top to the point that it sometimes even diminishes that empowering part about them. It took until wano we saw a trans character that wasn't an ridiculously overexaggerated archetype. Btw, sorry if I'm wrong about any of these things, I just like sharing my opinion and like hearing other people's thoughts on it too :)

Theo

Y'know what I say to that age gap? You tell Luffy he can't have that, if he wanted it and come back to me and tell me how that goes. He's a pirate, against the world government and his brother has a death sentence. We're passed the age thing at this point, mates. xD

Cody Berman

bon clay and another character are goated though

Memento Forever

Lot of people gonna hate me for this but... just to put it in perspective... Hancock is 29 at this point in time and Luffy is 17. . . You guys have fun with that information XD

Gurth-Quake

That’s the magic activating.

unknown organism

ngl, as a trans girl the Sanji side story is a hard watch for me, even knowing the history of the word okama and how it's used in Japan today (note, many still consider it a slur). But on the whole, I consider One Piece a pretty LGBTQIA+ positive work, so I can overlook it.

Lexi

You can also right click and copy the url for a new tab with the full player, which has a speed setting very obviously. Helpful for when binging content

Logan Baxter

Okama Way! Mr 2 is also an okama, or someone who's trans/in drag. Kamabaka gets its name from that.

KingofYokai

episode 419 is terrible chopper suddenly forgot he can talk to other animals, and then J.K. joanne Rowling took over directorial duties for the Sanji bit. Anyway, Araki & Togashi do a much better job with this related representation with characters like Neferpitou (non-binary, which i think counts for the rest of the Ants) & the transmasc person at the start of Stone Ocean's manga, or heck, maybe even Anasui. Both cases being 6-10 years before this One Piece arc.

Yagi di Hoshi

Brook X Panties is my all-time favorite ship!

Blue Berry

Sounds about right

Josh Newerth

the only magic i acquired at 31 is more cramps than usual

Yagi di Hoshi

that term might be a bit dated considering they took it out of jojo for that one bit, but i myself don't know

Yagi di Hoshi

one-guy'd in this stream. luffy's still a minor btw, soooo...back off, hammock. not a virgin since like 26. 31 now, and i don't feel much different before or after. at 31 the only wizardry i feel is...extra muscle cramping?

Yagi di Hoshi

cannon ship

Yagi di Hoshi

The people on Sanjis island isnt necessarily "Trans women" but Okama. Japanese has a pretty big crossdressing culture so, Okamas are generally Gay men that crossdress (some can be okama and not cross dress). So it can be people in the beginning of transition or just people that do enjoy the act of crossdressing or feminine gay men. Thats is why they are portraid the way they are. Its not to poke fun at trans women, but rather charicaturing the culture of japanese crossdressing.

seb

And Thousand X Sunny

Mordecryser

Remember: The only Canon Ships we have are: Zoro X Swords Luffy X Meat Nami X Money

FlaschenJoe11

Cmon guys I love the series too but it's crazy to deny that using caricatures of trans people and also all the times that sanji says you are not women, when Iva returns and he's horny for her female side but says no he's a man and then his return when he's too horny because he's finally seeing "real" women. Oda definitely has positive trans representation later but the sanji stuff definitely is tone deaf

Danny

The only part of One Piece I skip as a trans woman, its so awful to watch.

Sina

If motherfuckers with jawlines the shape of entire boxes were chasing me trying to put me in a dress, i'd be whateverthefuck-phobic they are too

Lewd Angel

If you right click directly on the video you should be able to change the speed, at least on my end you can.

Nimbus

You indeed have Alicia. Kamabaka kingdom was first mention by Bon Clay, aka Mr. 2, back in Alabaster. we are gonna learn more about it later on this arc. Also, PLEASE binge this ark this weekend. You’re gonna LOVE IT!

Chris White

Does streamable have an option for adding a "speed" setting for the video's? Curious as I like to listen/watch these while gaming or working and sometimes 2x speed just works best

Jakob Connell

Hey, if trans people were chasing me day and night to put me in a dress, I'd be transphobic too. NOTE: Trans people are NOT chasing me, therefore I am not transphobic

HappyDoodads

to be fair they are mostly reprresented as queer or drag than trans they are pretty vague

Fenronin (Dorian Dubourg)

For him it is literally a "phobia" in the truest sense

Baratect

Oh no the transphobic Sanji episodes are coming lol

Danny

True

Unsaidrumble

NEVER EVER BEATING PREWATCH ALLEGATIONS

Pirate King Buggy D. Clown

To be fair, Sanji kinda put himself in this position. He could have just as easily asked for a ride and they might have given him a lift.

DrewSB

Say it with me now……OKAMA WAY!

DrewSB

He literally never even considers fighting them. So at least Sanji isn’t a transphobe.

unknown organism

everyone watching tenor.com/view/usopp-one-piece-anime-long-nose-attack-gif-17145025

Easy Mode - A.I

5:28 - srs face - "that's a joke :

Easy Mode - A.I

11:05 Ah, he clearly is man of great mind. I wonder if he sells them around like my country did. However, considering stories it might not be good idea. Consumers always release last knot to sail faster and cause storm to happen that consumes their boats and/or their lives...

Kampela

Btw the best sneeze in anime belongs to Gintama. They say "Michael Jackson"

Ramizis

Them censorship clouds remind me of the Kaguya-sama ova

Ramizis

It's hilariously convienent this is happening during pride month.

sammy

They purposely overblow the 'horror' aspect for Sanjis perspective but in reality these are some truly based people. On the representation side i can see it being hurtful but given how Magnificient Bon Clay was in Alabasta it cant be anything more then laugh with them rather than at them. And like Alicia said, some people do look like this, these people exist, are you going to shun their representation? I hope not!

Randomocity732

When is comes to kama I will just say this, the undeniably amazing Bon Clay... That is all.

Gamer Kane

Id like to point out that Sanjis Chivalry does not allow him to kick Women, and he kicks no one on this island, just runs away...

Randomocity732

Oda has positive and negative representation as as writing style, which has the effect of making the story and characters pop. If you experience the low you can really feel the high using hot and cold storytelling. It is this that has lead to Oda having some of the best Representation even fifteen years later when the market was devoid of positive representation his characters can still stand shoulder to shoulder with modern characters.

William Bridges

Nami is so abusive towards him even though he shows nothing but kindness.

GaimeGuy

If you were to wake up paralyzed, no idea where you are, and a pair of colossal birds are rolling and tossing you around like a tennis ball, would the first thing that comes to mind would be to try and strike up a conversation?

ChaosSepher

I'd argue that sanji only cares about actually being female or not.

VisV

You also have to remember the Okama in OP are not exactly the same as trans people. You see some trans characters later on who arent okama and are well represented. The Okama of Kamabakka are a political group with a distinct culture and attitude towards life. They espouse a philosophy that was outlined by bon clay in arabasta “even if one can stray from the path of a man or the path of a woman, one can never stray from their essential humanity”, which is why they crossdress in the first place. Remember the Okama in OP have a country, a cuisine, a form of martial arts and clearly a visual style that may appear ugly and insensitive, but you should understand them within the worldbuilding and not with an external lens.

Iamir

Alicia almost killed me with the most batshit crazy line with the most (IMHO) dissonant tone of voice. "My Baby's Hallucinating!" In a crying sad voice is just so funny.

Jimmy H Lam

Yeah the Sanji island makes me really uncomfortable so thanks a lot for the message at the end <3 happy pride

Ember Rose

Just gonna say it now, Kuma is the goat. I can't wait for you to see more.

YukoValis

I feel like Oda created them this way to show his fans that Sanji only cares about appearance lol.

Joshua Wadcock

Second pair of jeans shorts, seems legit XD

Jakub Fabian

yeah... as a trans person, the stuff in this arc can be a bit hurtful. That being said, I think most, not all, of the stuff from the manga is at least trying to be fun and funny not hateful or hurtful. I think the anime only filler stuff is worse. It's also important to know that this episode aired 15 years ago, the world has changed. there's much better trans rep later on in the show. Sometimes with long running thigns an interesting look back is to see how the creator's feeling on things change over time

bloodyshadow1

I mean at least almost everyone of them is generally either a full an ally or friendly towards the strawhat crew or part of spoiler which I always find awesome.

Speed1247

Let's pretend they were under the other shirt :D. I mean, it's possible.

leviathan_13

its sad cause Oda is pretty progressive, this was more of a misrepresentation of two separate groups (drag and trans) merged poorly together.

Speed1247

pure peak arcs incoming, but we talking all time peak

Froze

The representation physically is bad in most of one piece till way later on but they are represented as good, loving, strong, reliable, skilled people and allies.

Eli Morris

Hitting 30 this year and soon will be turning into a wizard. Looking forward to my magic abilities.

Josh Newerth

With pride month underway, this is the perfect time to get back into One Piece, for this is the month of the okama.

Sam Marsh

Pride month is probably the best time to binge one piece tbh W coincidence. Cannot wait til you meet more representative characters they are the realest ones.

Kieren

You are right.

Pcdruid

Hahahaha yess she has seen sanji in hell part 1 of 3 😁

Hypnogc xxx martian

The video itself seems quiet

Icy

yeah the "ugly trans woman stereotype" island just makes me feel crazy uncomfortable.

KuroOberon

Who changed Nami clothes? Btw. "Kamabakka Kingdom" can be translate as "Kingdom of only transvestites "

Jakub Fabian

Same I love them

Icy

Its nothing against anyone, Oda is pretty progressive, I can't say more without referencing stuff

Icy

Yeah its nothing against them especially with this arc and what happened in recent arcs

Icy

Bon-chan did mention Kamabakka yes.

Cody Dennings

in japanese Kamabakka means trans

vork88

Beauty in one piece is completely dependent on that person and their dreams. if you're pursuing or have achieved your dreams you'll be attractive. while if you give up on you dreams or fail to achieve it then you'll end up looking ugly. So the Queens we see have either given up on their dreams or couldn't achieve them. either way they are living their best lives and we love them for it.

Narrok

Boa is 29 years old here btw, i dont think they ever say it in the anime but shes almost 30

Spicy Noodles

As a virgin whom is 25 I was not offended so anyone else can stfu

SleepySnorlax

I don't think you have to worry too much about the representation part. Firstly, I believe this is a stereotypical Japanese gay man representation, although I'm not so sure if its more updated to trans women these days, or more likely, a mix of both transwomen and gay men. But the more important part, is that somewhere in the story (won't say where) characters that share this stereotype will play a story role, including one who is one of the best characters in all of One Piece, and I will ****ing fight anyone who disagrees with that ;)

Iain McDonald

This is an upload I needed after my depressive episode today.

Chamoun101

more one piece ahhhhh! so hype and happy to see you're back! I hope the surgery went well :)

Jasaniel

Gently Super~

DrewSB

Omg yes!

Scrubthulhu

Suuuuuuuuper! The old weather wizard guy is so wholesome he's great!

BewearKing64


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