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Straw Hat Episode 560+561

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"Let the ugly mfkers thrive too!" says Alicia, forgetting her rather tumultuous bias towards hot/sexy evildoers and general disdain for any ugly bad guy. See: Hordy.

Xanis

"Mihawk, take away one of my eyes." Literally Sanageyama from Kill la Kill.

Supermew

I think it's because Decken's fruit relies at least partially on his Will power. otherwise anything he touches would fly at his target rather than something he specifically throws.

PerfectYarn

I think I heard somewhere that zoro has a bigger chest than tsunade from naruto.

Nathaniel Richter

Alicia deckens devil fruit can be dodged you just can’t run away from it and when hordy dodged and it hit decken it stopped his powers so the axe didn’t rotate back to go at hordy

CQC Greed

TBH the consciousness thing just depends on what's best for the story/plot

Giddo

Canonically, Zoro has the biggest bust on the crew

Hobojoedogbro 64

zoro got the biggest tits on the crew

Pirate King Buggy D. Clown

a fruit is only as good as its user

Pirate King Buggy D. Clown

easy usually correct explanation Logia=always on Paramecia=needs to be activated Zoan=needs to be activated but transformations stays until users chooses to change

Baltierrian22

Yea yknow i wasn't gonna bring this up but i see others are doing it as well so fuck, fam that was not a cameltoe lmao. The fact that a man has to tell a woman thats not in any way what a cameltoe looks like is...kinda insane, those are just crumpled pants.

Lewd Angel

the animators thirsty this episode!

Gildarts1#fan

that didnt happen lol

Brian

Zoro lost his eye due to idiocy, he was playing with Mihawks cross knife, threw it up in the air the same way he did for Kitestus 3, and cut his eye, twas funny.

Draconic

If that was cameltoe, her pussy sideways, dafuq?

Gurth-Quake

the boa turning people to stone point has been addressed by the story... I won't say anything more than that for spoilers sake.

Jasaniel

In the manga it shows the axe coming from the other way so it looks like hordy threw Decken in front of the axe, while in the anime it looks like he just dodged🙃it was toei

Joe Vocaire

Zoro is the real fanservice 🤌

Annabore

Right, there's activated and there's passive fruits. Luffy has a passive fruit, the *only* thing it does is change his body, and it's always a thing, it's altered his very being. Same with Chopper being a zoan, but zoan *also* have an activated ability in the form changes. Meanwhile, Decken only has an activated portion to his paramecia(unless you count his hands marking things automatically as a change in his body). He doesn't have to concentrate on it, but he does have to actually throw a thing, and then it keeps running off of that original intent of hitting the target. This is generally how it works if a fruit affects something else than the owner's body, unless it's specified that they need to concentrate. Logias are activated as well, you can touch an unconscious logia.

Shatol Darmelo

more like Zoro

Fenronin (Dorian Dubourg)

As for consciousness being important, the simplified rule is if it's an emitted/controlled then consciousness is key, if it's static/constant its not too important. Since his is an applied ability, it's like unplugging a wifi router.

noneyabiss

devil fruit powers are operated by the user's imagination and subconcious. i believe so when one passes out their control over that power will cease. Their consciousness is essentially what powers their devil fruit work and do its thing

Emperor Moist

The headbutt your fot bit reminds me so much of Kung pow's "my face to your foot style"

noneyabiss

True true!

Okoga

im pretty sure the reason the axe hit Vander Pedo is because hordy essentially bit decken and held him in the way of the axe so that it would hit him since whatever he throws most of the time is a straight shot to the target once its gained speed

Emperor Moist

In Mr. 3's case he creates the wax, he doesn't just manifest it. Same with Magellan's poison, like the poison wall or just globs of poison on the ground, they would stay.

Koga Wolfe

Also, both Luffy and Franky have their shirts constantly open.

Anzac-A1

As soon as you said, "There's a boat." I immediately had the same thought. I also have a niece, so my brain also tends to go towards some of those songs.

Koga Wolfe

Talking about no fanservice for men but are you just ignoring Wadatsumi and Pink Hat Bitch being shirtless all the time? I mean, you pause all the time when they are on screen so....

Okoga

Y'know what I wrote that and then I looked back up at the video and someone pointed out Mr. 3 and yeah his wax house where Sanji beat the fuck outta them animals sure was still there after Luffy punched his shit out on pure instinct so like the fuck do I know LMAO Devil Fruits stay wildin

Koirby

I think the best way to like, consider the effects of conscious versus unconscious on Devil Fruit abilities is to think of, like, Brooke(or Luffy or Chopper) Vs Robin. If a Devil Fruit affects like, a person's entire body, it's going to still work regardless, I.E. Brooke is still dead AF. Robin on the other hand has to manifest her ability on command, so it's not like she can just, spout limbs in her sleep, y'know? So in Decken's case, because it's an ability that requires like, manifestation, it makes sense that it wouldn't work if homeboy got zonk'd. Now, as there are mANY more Devil Fruit abilities, probably some I'm not even thinking of canon or otherwise, there's probably exceptions to the rule (I can think of one but anyone reading shhh don't say shit), but I think this is a pretty like, good standard to draw a line on when it comes to abilities.

Koirby

Speaking of Zoro's Chesticles, I think he canonically has the largest bust measurements (at least proportionally)

Logan Baxter

I don't know if it's been pointed out to Alicia but... Oda met his wife (Chiaki Inaba) when she was acting as Nami in a musical adaptation. so... i'm sure in a way... Oda drew Nami in a way he saw his wife.

Dreakas

I don't think you're "super wrong" to question how devil fruits work regarding the user passing out, but there are definitely some powers that work that way. Like, presumably if Enel is knocked out, his body isn't made of electricity (edit: people in the chat are saying it would be. I could be wrong, but I seem to remember Oda saying that logia users aren't fully solid or fully their element by default, whatever that means). And when a Zoan type is knocked out, they always return to their human form (except for Chopper, who oddly doesn't turn back into a reindeer, but into his small hybrid form instead). I suppose you could argue that those require thought/effort to activate though, whereas Deckens thrown objects are on auto-pilot, so... Yeah, questioning it is valid, by I can accept that it works the way Decken says it does. I wonder if knocking Hancock out would revert people she's turned to stone? Maybe not because it's a physical change that has completed, whereas Decken's power is actively (whether he has to think about it or not) proving his thrown objects with thrust and the ability to turn? Hopefully this isn't a spoiler (I don't think it's ever plot relevant, but I could be wrong ), but there may also be a difference between falling asleep and being knocked out. If Decken threw something, then went to take a nap, the power would probably stay active.

Lexi

zoro's bust size is 110cm

Elkmon974

I can only think that there are passive and active abilities for DFs. Like, you're right, Luffy's body is Rubber, but it takes a force of some kind to actively stretch him. There are also varying levels of similar DF abilities as well. Look no further than Ace and Akinu, both with very powerful Fire type powers, but with a very clear edge for one. The Mark-Mark Fruit could potentially be the weakest of a subtype of DFs focused on hitting a target of some sort, with the Passive Ability of "Hold the Target that Made Hand Contact" and an Active Ability of "Thrown Weapons at Target of Thought Will Hit". Knocking him out only ends the ACTIVE ability in this case

Kamvex

in the words of my partner post time skip everyone is "Tits out" in honor of ace

TabledNaCl

While I do agree with you about the equality of sexualized characters, the anime community is over 60-70% male so... They're probably afraid doing so would hurt sales. Video games are different they're more 50/50 so can't say much there. But I can definitely see why anime is so waifu heavy

Jorden Powell

Ah yes, the episode where Alicia finally notices Zoro's BIG. FAT. BOOBIES [Obligatory MelonTeee Reference, One Piece Lore/Thematic Youtuber]

UndeaditeJesse

Yes, because there is a big difference between sleeping and getting concussed/fainting.

ChaosSepher

Yes, because there is a big difference between sleeping and getting concussed/fainting.

ChaosSepher

Devil Fruit effects stay if the user is unconscious, like Deckens Mark still existing. Devil Fruit ABILITIES disappear when they're knocked unconscious, like any object Decken throws, he even states verbally usually that it should hit his target. Its not so much a constant thought thing as it is an active vs a passive effect. Similarly, Morias shadows and Peronas ghosts disappeared, but their bodies themselves still maintained their respective fruits effects

Lewd Angel

19:30 like luffy in amazon lily! They really focused on his family jewels? Lol. And 20:25 like in balurs gate they got dick Physics! 😆 I'm sorry for commenting alot

NixTWD

I suppose if you want some "everyone" fanservice, you'd need to read Rosen Garten Saga. It's... something else.

Dragmire

14:40 I'll continue the bit... where you lefted off.. no to ugly Rugs. Yes to big Jugs. But no to tugs. But yes to cute pugs. But no to my friend Doug. But yes he's a lug.

NixTWD

I forgot Luffy gave that man Hoady a purple nurple lmao.

Rabao

That's small visual errors usually Oda's pretty good at placement. Very rarely will you find him slipping on that.

Alicia Barkley

58:53 Vanderdeken's ability is basically attaching an invisible mental bungie chord to different objects/people

Trevor Appel

Robin as well, even boa only has 1cm over him

Jake stephens

About the unconscious thing for devil fruit users, my theory is that it is referring to being knocked unconscious and only stops the effects that are outside of the user's body. So if a user were to go to sleep naturally, the effects of there power would still be around.

Tigerguy

Devil fruits Like Decken's can be negated if the user is KO'd, cause every object thrown it's in a state of activation. The power is activated fully, their are passive that'll be active forever like the marks. But the throwing motion the user needs to be consciousness until the target is hit. At least that's how I view his power working.

NandoTNT

When i was watching fishmen weekly i didnt enjoy fishmen as much as i did watching you react.

Billy Lo

Nami's fanservicey shots is largely dependent not on Toei, but on the animator for that scene with her. I know for a fact there is one animator that's infamous in the OP fandom for always animating the more fanservicey shots with Nami and the other ladies.

UltramanUltimo

Little known fact, at Toei Animation all animators who draw scenes with Nami are contractually obligated to celibacy and are kept in isolation for weeks at a time, to ensure that they go the extra mile in the fanservice department.

Sam Marsh

One op that lets you hold hearts and presumably all the power that let you make things except an animal pen

Lightinger

Zoro actually has a larger chest size than Nami.

Badgersan

That said, Oda has of course been seen making small mistakes as well, like that one time a masked character was drawn maskless in one panel, or that time Shanks was missing his scar.

Hynkka

I got caught on this as well and indeed, after double checking it is as you stated. Hody took advantage of the fact Decken doesn't keep track of his projectiles particularly well and placed him in the way while he was still skewered.

Hynkka

Is there any power (other than those that change your own body like Luffy's) that was shown to remain active when the user is knocked out? Cause I don't think we ever seen that.

rando

Yeah. It's actually fairly consistent. I'm confused as to why she thinks Moria's power should be different from Deken's. Moria's shadows are also independent, and Moria definitely doesn't need to think about it to maintain them. But knocking him out still returns the shadows to the originals owners.

rando

Also for the unconsciousness stuff, remember his DF is described as placing a "mark" on who he touches. When he throws something intended for his target, just think of the mark as activating, and when he loses consciousness or dies, the mark deactivates or disappears altogether (never is specified which)

Santi

momentum still exists alicia. if the axe is dodged it will continue to arc around and track until it hits or is stopped. when vander decken said "no matter how fast you are", he was speaking in the context of outrunning it, no matter how fast you are it will continue to chase you.

Santi

LMAO alicia, what do you think video games are? They aren’t porn XD if you wanna dick physics you have to play any other game that allows for nudity and they are tag as +18, otherwise that ain’t real! Men shlong doesn’t go anywhere in proper underwear! And ain’t like men don’t look jacked in games LOL or are half naked

Raven Shadow

Fun fact. Now that you are post time skip, Zoro has the second largest chest of the human sized characters. He is second only to Boa Hancock

Lenny_has_arived

Zoro got the biggest tiddies in one piece, ngl

Simulacrae

Alicia on her fanservice rant... My mind: *can we get much higher?*

Miroslav Radev

What powers and abilities are and are not affected by consciousness does vary on plot. People dont die in one piece so some abilities have to disapear with a KO

Lightinger

There seems to be a rule with devil fruits that if the user is effecting something outside of their body, if they pass out the effect goes away. Not sleep, they have to specifically be knocked out or die.

Alicia Barkley

Fun fact, Luffy is the only human that could fight outside the bubble, The pressure from the water would have crushed anyone else to death, but Luffy is rubber and is unaffected by water pressure.

Alicia Barkley

In the manga Hordy used Vander Decken as a meat shield to block the axe flying at him. He DID NOT dodge the axe. That was anime only.

Alicia Barkley

Fun fact! Gomu Gomu no Snake Shot is a nod to how Luffy's training was in close proximity to Amazon Lily, as Luffy is always coming up with new attacks based on his surroundings, and a huge thing about Amazon Lily is the whole thing with snakes and stuff-- Boa is even referred to as "hebihime-sama" (hebi: snake, hime: princess), and also, like... named "Boa." As in boa constrictor, or the like. Pretty neat stuff, and it's always cool to see how Luffy draws such inspiration from the places and people he meets on his adventures-- like how Gear 2 was inspired by the sea train, and Gear 3 by the giants. Or like how Fireworks was something he came up on sky island, because of literally being in the *sky*, or how he came up with Storm as a finishing attack against Crocodile. Even for his less creatively named attacks, he's generally picturing weapons or such to try and picture how they'll work; it's always pretty neat to connect some of those dots and get a sense for how Luffy's imagination works. ^^

Lyn

You can dodge things thrown but they will come back again. They only lose momentum when they hit something and if they hit something hard enough they stop. The axe would have still come back for hordy if decken hadent fallen and the ability itself dissapeared.

Lightinger

16:19 Oh sweet mother of god. Anyone who's underneath him... DO NOT! look up.

RedRam-Ipsen

My adoration for her is immeasurable and my day is saved!

Chamoun101


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