aliciaxlife - Gravity Falls 2x17

"They don't give a fuck about the education you learned" welp, glad I ended up unusual in that regard, then. Though honestly I don't think that's as rare an occurrence as you make it out to be.

jahschwa

2024-10-08 04:27:20 +0000 UTC

jesus christ i love adventure time but that show is LONG and also its 3 shows now actually now that i think about it oh well, peak is peak

Ellerian

2024-09-05 00:47:47 +0000 UTC

It's on her channel, second post on the community tab. Looks like Adventure Time is the winner.

Tristan Arron Smith

2024-09-04 19:18:05 +0000 UTC

Where is this community tab poll for the next series that she watches. I searched YouTube. I searched on here. I can’t find it.

Daisy Azuras

2024-09-03 20:45:32 +0000 UTC

I think the running theory for the parents was that they were going through relationship issues and were considering divorce so they sent Mable and dipper away so they wouldn’t have see it happen

James Fernandez

2024-09-03 19:05:11 +0000 UTC

There was this girl I was friends with since kindergarten but as soon as we go into the 6th grade she started hanging out with these popular girls. One day during P.E. they all came up to me and called me a pest and that I should stop hanging out with her. We stopped being friends that day and I have never heard from her again.

DBZfangirl318

2024-09-03 03:36:02 +0000 UTC

also "trusted friend" is a stretch for a guy who they trapped in time prison "time" being the key word here, Blendin could've spent millions of years in prison before the episode he was released for all we know, and lost his job who then wanted to erase their entire existence and got simply a job and a mustache on his scalp from them

Vegvisir92

2024-09-02 23:57:50 +0000 UTC

yeh trapping a whole town in a constant time loop without any of the townspeoples consent is not exactly a good thing to do.....and thats what she agreed to before she knew she was tricked...when i was 12 i definitely knew doing something against someones consent was a very bad thing to do, and thats just normal real world stuff, Mabel already knew of supernatural/weird stuff and yet she still decides that holding the whole town in a time loop without their knowledge is a good idea for her.....doesn't compute

Vegvisir92

2024-09-02 23:54:55 +0000 UTC

The expanded lore in the Book of Bill explains so much about Mabel's reaction

MarakamiSG

2024-09-02 16:17:12 +0000 UTC

Yeah... this is understandable given everything that happened today.... it's that this is just the latest in a long series of Mabel doing selfish things that makes it feel so bad.

Seraphem

2024-09-02 15:36:41 +0000 UTC

So about the glass door thing i recommend being extremely careful if you have small children. I almost lost half my face as a child because of a glass door because i ran straight through the door. And I've also met multiple people who as child had some injury related to glass doors. It's an absolute safety hazard. Injuries caused by glass doors are really common among children. I mentioned this because Alicia repeatedly mentioned that she wants children, and better safe then sorry.

Lektro

2024-09-02 04:39:43 +0000 UTC

god forbid an emotional 12 year old that feels alone and like her whole life is falling apart has a moment of weakness of giving away a fancy snow globe that's not hers to a trusted friend that's promising it will solve all her issues

Nopoleon Y

2024-09-02 01:36:45 +0000 UTC

I hate the “12 year old” argument… ANY person who had an emotionally bad day can be taken advantage of while in a bad state and make a bad decision. It doesn’t just have to be a 12 year old girl. (like how I flipped it)

Robert

2024-09-01 23:04:50 +0000 UTC

I couldn't have said it better myself. Mabel was always selfish, so is Dipper. Everyone forgets Dipper in the first season was just as selfish about things as Mabel. Hell the first episode of season 2 he almost starts the zombie uprising because he wanted validation from the government agents. Every character in this show has flaws and Bill feeds on them. He's always watching so he always knows what to say to get them to do what he wants. You don't blame the manipulated you blame the manipulator.

Alicia Barkley

2024-09-01 19:07:54 +0000 UTC

Yes it is selfish to give away your sibling's things...HOWEVER, it is not unforgivable like Alicia was saying. She didn't intentionally doom humanity.

Alicia Barkley

2024-09-01 18:44:25 +0000 UTC

I think in general it's selfish to give away your sibling's things without their consent for your own gain, no? Bill tricked her because he knew he could play on her understandable but selfish desires in the moment.

Trey Turner

2024-09-01 15:09:50 +0000 UTC

i cant not wait until weirdmageddon

HeavenlyNoomba

2024-09-01 11:20:43 +0000 UTC

I feel like Ford's plan for Dipper is more than a little flawed... Dipper is smart, and sure, he would probably learn a LOT from his gruncle Ford... things that he could learn later, like in college. The things he struggles the most with, such as social aspects of life, are NOT what Ford seems good at, and missing high school would not help matters. Plus, as Alicia mentioned, Ford does not really work as credentials, and for all his PHD's, I doubt he would make for a great teacher, there's more to being a teacher than knowing the subject. I'm sure he would be a good person to contact if something in school stumps Dipper though, like, asking him to explain something math-related or such.

Fejk Namn

2024-09-01 09:58:09 +0000 UTC

As someone who grew up in a toxic family environment I one thousand percent disagree with you Alicia. Some time you just gotta say “Fuck what they want” and do your own thing. Just because they are family doesn’t mean there are some manipulative ass people out there that don’t give a shit if your family they will use your ass for all your worth and then be pissy when you tell them you can’t help them anymore. Sometimes family sucks and just cause you share blood with them does not mean you owe them anything, at the end of the day your own mental health and own wellbeing are more important than making everyone happy, even if they are family.

ELS_Art

2024-09-01 06:05:49 +0000 UTC

She's a child, specifically one that doesn't think things through. Sometimes, a little self reflection is genuinely the perfect thing to stop you from doing something, unless you're ignorant and unwilling to change. The important part is that she didn't give it away. It's still wrong that she nearly did, ofc. Yes, she's selfish. I don't think anyone will seriously deny that. But, for fuck's sake, she didn't know what the globe did and what it was. If she did, I genuinely don't think she would've handed it over because despite her selfishness because of how MUCH more important it is. She's currently hurting a lot, and hurt people do selfish actions a lot easier.

Marideth McVey

2024-09-01 05:30:27 +0000 UTC

Be prepared to find out why the most common joke at the time for the last three episodes was that Alex Hirsch finally managed to kill the censors.

Oni1992

2024-09-01 02:20:30 +0000 UTC

Here we go... Only 3 episodes left

Jackal Sniper

2024-09-01 01:58:15 +0000 UTC

I'm not saying Mabel isn't at fault, but Ford has to share some of the blame too for not informing the Mabel and Stan how dire the situation was.

DBZfangirl318

2024-09-01 00:17:10 +0000 UTC

Yeah, like I said, she's not completely blameless. It was wrong of her to give away something that wasn't hers. I just think other people share some blame in it as well, and not to mention, she's a kid who just hit her lowest point. It's not that I don't think she did anything wrong. I just think the level of hate some people seem to have for her is way overblown.

Malcolm Ferguson

2024-09-01 00:11:14 +0000 UTC

Welcome to Weirdmageddon. There are no seatbelts and you are free to have your arms outside the car to flail about in helplessness, madness and horror. Enjoy!

BakaSama

2024-08-31 23:52:07 +0000 UTC

The Book of Bill gave us the lil' tidbit that one of Dipper's recurring nightmares is reliving an argument he accidentally overheard his parents having before sending them off for the summer, so yeah, these kids come from a broken home if that wasn't already obvious enough. They're likely ending the summer by coming home to a "Hey kiddos, we need to talk about your mom and I..."

Lynn

2024-08-31 23:46:54 +0000 UTC

First off Mabel's 12. Second Maybel had no clue about the rift nor how dangerous it was. Third Maybel's parents are most likely getting a divorce according to the Book of Bill. Fourth Ford should not have asked a 12 year old to leave the education system without asking permission from his parents and without considering how it could effect his emotional development. Five Ford, an adult genius, was tricked by Bill almost destroyed the world and it's fine, but the same happens to Maybel and it's not okay???

Alicia Barkley

2024-08-31 23:11:12 +0000 UTC

NO ONE TOLD MABLE ABOUT THE RIFT HOW THE HELL WAS SHE SUPPOSED TO HAVE KNOWN!? The same thing happened with Ford! He was tricked into almost destroying the world! Yet it's not okay for Maybel who doesn't have any clue of the gravity of the situation???

Alicia Barkley

2024-08-31 22:58:19 +0000 UTC

its literally Mabel's fault tho. yes she didn't know what it was, but why does that excuse her from giving away someone else's stuff? ESPECIALLY to someone they already had issues with before...

Travis

2024-08-31 22:37:17 +0000 UTC

Yeah. All of the characters are flawed, but for some reason, when it comes to Mabel, the flaws are all some people seem to focus on...

Malcolm Ferguson

2024-08-31 22:18:06 +0000 UTC

thats actually really cool i never heard about that

Ellerian

2024-08-31 21:53:45 +0000 UTC

When you talked about Mabel and Dipper's parents about all that, I was thinking that Mabel is talking about the only thing that she gets to bring home from Gravity Falls is Dipper, he is the only thing from the summer that is going home with her.

Tigerguy

2024-08-31 21:49:00 +0000 UTC

Ford shares blame definetly but like. She still know it doesn’t belong to her and isn’t hers to give away and she also still knows she’s doing it to get something she wants that the others don’t want. She’s categorically in the wrong here no matter how ignorant or manipulated she is.

Mortis

2024-08-31 21:31:18 +0000 UTC

Every character has been selfish in some capacity Dipper, Stan, Ford, heck even Wendy and Soos that doesn’t make them inherently selfish people and besides Mabel had changed ever since the sock opera episode she’s been consistently selfless so to say she hadn’t is just wrong.

Dark Persona

2024-08-31 21:30:49 +0000 UTC

It shouldn’t need to be literally the key to world safety for her to know not to give away stuff that isn’t hers to get something only she wants.

Mortis

2024-08-31 21:29:50 +0000 UTC

This is literally her established character. She’s been selfish since episode 1

Mortis

2024-08-31 21:28:42 +0000 UTC

If she was only selfish in this moment you’d have a point. But this is her most consistent character trait

Mortis

2024-08-31 21:28:15 +0000 UTC

I’m really tired of all these people coming out of the woodwork to bash a 12 year old girl for making a mistake at her lowest point. No one else in this show gets nearly as much flack for their mistakes it’s honestly insane

Clumsy

2024-08-31 21:26:57 +0000 UTC

But it wasn’t hers to hand over. But she still did to get what she wanted regardless of what anyone else wanted. This is a consistent pattern for Mabel and literally the only time she’s broken the pattern is when bill basically literally told her to her face what a selfish bad person she was. And even then what she gave up was only a sock puppet show to impress a guy she’d just met and what she almost gave away for it was her brothers most important possession, the safety of the world, and her brothers life.

Mortis

2024-08-31 21:26:13 +0000 UTC

Mabel is still the best character yall are tripping

Clumsy

2024-08-31 21:18:14 +0000 UTC

Not to mention everything Ford knew about Bill he only told Dipper. It wasn't just the rift that only Dipper and Ford knew about, it was also Bill's nature. Up to that point Bill was just a quirky little bastard who kept popping up but was ultimately beaten by two kids, Mabel had no idea the sheer danger Bill possessed and how far he'd go to achieve his aims. She had no idea Bill might be hiding among other people, or that he was aiming for something specific. Yeah Mabel made a bad call, but she's a little kid who was at her most emotional low, realizing that not only were her hopes and dreams lies, but the one person who could help her through the next few years of her life was planning on staying where SHE wants to stay and leaving her to weather the storm alone. It's not like the kids are alien to stealing stuff and using other people's things to get through some hijinks for that day, I mean look at everything they've been through. Mabel had no reason to think that handing over the funny glowing globe would spell the end of the world.

MaskedRider

2024-08-31 21:04:48 +0000 UTC

Unfortunately when you’re feeling alone and scared, being selfish is a pretty normal thing… especially as a kid. I do think Mabel was doing better, but this experience made her regress a lot. Only one person can talk her out of it now…

Chelly

2024-08-31 20:55:30 +0000 UTC

Plus, she immediately regretted it as soon as it was broken. It was a moment of weakness, but a moment was all Bill needed.

tellurium_allure

2024-08-31 20:50:44 +0000 UTC

The intro thing is just b/c they played a shortened version for some of the final episodes. Also considering Dipper's parents left him with (who they thought was) Stanford for the entire summer with no contact, maybe they would be thrilled to leave his education up to him.

Munir

2024-08-31 20:00:31 +0000 UTC

Mabel didn't really know that handing the thing would be the end of the world

ً

2024-08-31 19:47:49 +0000 UTC

Fun fact... after Ford mentions studying the alien language with McGucket, and Dipper takes a picture in front of some of it, it's actually a cipher that can be (and was!) solved by fans. It makes mention of an "Improbability Device", which while also being a reference to Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, may give an answer to Ford's question about whether the UFO caused Gravity Falls' weirdness or if its weirdness caused the UFO to crash there.

AbsurdToastling

2024-08-31 19:47:09 +0000 UTC

I'm not saying Mabel is COMPLETELY blameless. I just think there's a lot of blame to go around, and to put it all on Mabel, like some fans do, is really unfair.

Malcolm Ferguson

2024-08-31 19:43:13 +0000 UTC

So, here’s my take: In my opinion, Ford shouldn't have been so secretive about the Rift. To be clear, I think Ford was right to want to keep the Rift a secret, as anyone could be possessed by Bill, however I think he was wrong to not let Mabel and Stan in on it. If Mabel had known what the Rift was, she never would have given it to “Blendin”. On top of that… I feel like Ford’s reasons for telling Dipper not to tell Mabel, as well as taking him on as an apprentice, are as personal as they are pragmatic. Ford clearly has unresolved issues with Stan, and I think he’s subconsciously projecting those issues onto Dipper. That's why he says it must be "suffocating" to always live with one's twin. Ultimately Ford means well, but I think he’s letting his personal feelings about Stan cloud his judgement, and it’s poisoning the relationship between Dipper & Mabel.

Malcolm Ferguson

2024-08-31 19:36:02 +0000 UTC

They did not develop her character from that. The one time she gave up something, it turned out the dude was a creep anyway. She has never put others before herself yet

Cream_That_Corn

2024-08-31 19:14:30 +0000 UTC

When this episode came out a lot of the fandom were upset with Mabel for giving the rift to Bill, but I just want to point out that this was in no way her fault. Dipper and Ford kept the truth about the rift from her, so she had no idea how important it was (as far as she knew, it was just an extravagant snow globe). She never would have given it over if she had been informed of its significance. Not to mention she was in a highly fragile emotional state that made her easy prey for a skilled manipulator like Bill.

Sam Marsh

2024-08-31 19:00:31 +0000 UTC

I can’t blame Mable. She had hit a low emotionally and knew Blendin could be trusted. She was in the dark about the rift because of ford and she didn’t know what it did.

Prince of the Saiyans

2024-08-31 18:42:47 +0000 UTC

Happy birthday, Dipper and Mabel :)

SpookeaBea 🍂

2024-08-31 18:09:02 +0000 UTC

Was this reaction dropping on their birthday planned?

Sketchy0w0

2024-08-31 18:06:16 +0000 UTC

Your talk about siblings being dependant on each other when the parents are going through some stuff hit hard for me. Having my parents divorced at a young age sucked and being the oldest meant I had to look after my sisters (because after me, it was just 4 consecutive sisters until my 2 little brothers were born) a lot. Miiight explain why I'm so close with all of them, especially my youngest sister. But yeah, really made me realize that we became dependant on each other and why we're all so close.

Mitch Gates

2024-08-31 17:54:45 +0000 UTC

I suppose you’re right. I may have jumped the gun a tad on that one.

Dark Persona

2024-08-31 17:44:29 +0000 UTC

26:40 that is so true. My best friend in high-school was such a happy and sweet girl and I watched as she was broken down during that 4 years. I hated seeing it but I wasn't really emotionally intelligent enough to help the way she needed. Ugh if I could go back I wouldn't care about consequences and I'd give the girl that bullied her the carry treatment!

Sam Smith

2024-08-31 17:27:45 +0000 UTC

It's okay to call her selfish for this. In the graphic novel she very directly admits that she was in the wrong here and apologizes for it. (What is not okay is to hate her for it since she is just 12).

Loro

2024-08-31 17:27:07 +0000 UTC

She's been watching them pretty regularly for the last few eps, I think we're safe.

Bologna Amputation

2024-08-31 16:35:15 +0000 UTC

No here is where fans are split about Mabel. How she was being selfish, how she should have been more supportive about Dipper leaving. And how she shouldn't have have Blendin/Bill the rift. Now in my opinion Ford is just as responsible as Mabel. Ford told Dipper to not tell Mabel about the rift. Had she known how important it was she never would have given it to Bill.

DBZfangirl318

2024-08-31 16:33:31 +0000 UTC

And they literally developed her character from that, lol. Flawed characters are not bad. They are flawed, and, realistic. Don't spoil what comes up, but that is the right decision later, and Mabel literally learns in Sock Opera, too, lol.

WhopsInc.

2024-08-31 16:29:39 +0000 UTC

no I thought she was the worst character before that I get the manipulation and don't blame her for that it's the other stuff like everyone else giving up what they want for her to get her way

major charmander

2024-08-31 16:22:18 +0000 UTC

Also, Mabel had no idea that she was selling out humanity, because Ford and Dipper kept her in complete darkness.

Matilda

2024-08-31 16:08:45 +0000 UTC

I completely understand Mabel here - with her home life issues, I would’ve stayed too.

Matilda

2024-08-31 16:06:57 +0000 UTC

12 Year old girl does something out of character while going through the worst day of her life, getting actively manipulated, and will have to go back to, a possibly broken, home without their only support. A lot of the fans: "WORST CHARACTER"

WhopsInc.

2024-08-31 15:55:44 +0000 UTC

lol yall hating on a 12 year old with parental issues at home

WhopsInc.

2024-08-31 15:52:25 +0000 UTC

So crazy haha!

M

2024-08-31 15:29:40 +0000 UTC

No no, that's the second to last episode. This is just the start lol

M

2024-08-31 15:29:24 +0000 UTC

So it's heavily implied that their parents are going through a divorce based on some details written in the real journals and the new Bill's Book, which is the real reason they were sent away for the summer. So the parents could work out what they're going to do.

M

2024-08-31 15:25:40 +0000 UTC

Someone tell Alicia she needs to watch the opening for the next few episodes.

Gildarts1#fan

2024-08-31 15:01:07 +0000 UTC

mate you neeed to add way more lines than that

Klaytor

2024-08-31 14:52:13 +0000 UTC

Okay I feel like I need to say this but remember that Mabel is 12, in a current state of distress, and being actively manipulated when she made that decision so I don’t believe it’s fair to call her selfish here.

Dark Persona

2024-08-31 14:44:24 +0000 UTC

(｡´･д･) me as a twin listening to Alicia the non-twin speaking about twins

Easy Mode - A.I

2024-08-31 14:31:51 +0000 UTC

the episode where mabel becomes worst girl

Easy Mode - A.I

2024-08-31 14:19:40 +0000 UTC

Fitting, alicias timing is truly on point

teatus

2024-08-31 14:18:25 +0000 UTC

Like someone else mentioned here, the answers to your questions about Dipper and Mabel's parents can be found in the recently released "Book of Bill". I literally have a copy myself. Still saving up for a Blacklight Edition of Journal 3 on eBay, where it's revealed that Bill planned to throw Dipper's body off the top of the watertower in the sock puppet episode after destroying the Journal and ruining Mabel's play.

Marion Ette

2024-08-31 14:14:11 +0000 UTC

I recently saw a comparison between She-Ra and adult Ben Tennison and now I can't unsee She-Ra being Ben cosplaying/crossdressing :|

Blooocki :3

2024-08-31 13:40:18 +0000 UTC

SPOILERS FOR BOOK OF BILL: —————————— —————————— —————————— —————————— Since you keep asking about Dipper and Mabel’s parents and their situation, it should be said that in a recent book written by Alex Hirsch, it’s heavily implied that their parents are getting a divorce, hence why they sent them away for the summer with no contact. This would explain why the kids aren’t close with their parents and probably why they never call. It would also make Mabel’s situation far worse, as she would be losing her friends, her brother, and dealing with split parents while going through high school.

PineapplesAreGross2006

2024-08-31 13:18:26 +0000 UTC

oh hey its dipper and mabels birthday today

Klaytor

2024-08-31 13:12:43 +0000 UTC

Yeah Ford was pushing his own feelings onto Dipper. His trust issues, his issues with his own twin and so on. I also think he was trying to fill that void that Stan has left fot the last 30 years with Dipper, which isn't fair to anyone involved

Curtis Murphy

2024-08-31 13:00:46 +0000 UTC

I do also like the juxtapositoon between Mabel and Dipper. Mabel, not wanting to grow up and Dipper wanting to grow up to fast.

Curtis Murphy

2024-08-31 12:58:10 +0000 UTC

To think, if Dipper had just trusted Mabel like he had all summer and told her about the rift, this wouldn't have happened. Not blaming Dipper btw. Ford pushed his own problems with trust onto Dipper casuing him not to tell Mabel important information.

Curtis Murphy

2024-08-31 12:57:33 +0000 UTC

This was probably the lowest point in Mabel's life so her going back to old negative traits is fair enough. Plus, if she had known what it was she would never give it away. Personally, I think the blame lies on Ford since it was his paranoia that led him to not telling anyone besides Dipper what it was and it is kinda f-ed up for him to take on a child as his assistant which is what led to said low point. No matter how smart Dipper is he's still a twelve year old and it's wrong to take him away from his family, friends and the experience of growing up.

TheMaskedOne

2024-08-31 12:55:48 +0000 UTC

Let WEIRDMAGEDDON commence!!

Sam Marsh

2024-08-31 12:19:25 +0000 UTC

Gravity Falls 2x17

Comments

"They don't give a fuck about the education you learned" welp, glad I ended up unusual in that regard, then. Though honestly I don't think that's as rare an occurrence as you make it out to be.

jesus christ i love adventure time but that show is LONG and also its 3 shows now actually now that i think about it oh well, peak is peak

It's on her channel, second post on the community tab. Looks like Adventure Time is the winner.

Where is this community tab poll for the next series that she watches. I searched YouTube. I searched on here. I can’t find it.

I think the running theory for the parents was that they were going through relationship issues and were considering divorce so they sent Mable and dipper away so they wouldn’t have see it happen

The expanded lore in the Book of Bill explains so much about Mabel's reaction

Yeah... this is understandable given everything that happened today.... it's that this is just the latest in a long series of Mabel doing selfish things that makes it feel so bad.

god forbid an emotional 12 year old that feels alone and like her whole life is falling apart has a moment of weakness of giving away a fancy snow globe that's not hers to a trusted friend that's promising it will solve all her issues

I hate the “12 year old” argument… ANY person who had an emotionally bad day can be taken advantage of while in a bad state and make a bad decision. It doesn’t just have to be a 12 year old girl. (like how I flipped it)

Yes it is selfish to give away your sibling's things...HOWEVER, it is not unforgivable like Alicia was saying. She didn't intentionally doom humanity.

I think in general it's selfish to give away your sibling's things without their consent for your own gain, no? Bill tricked her because he knew he could play on her understandable but selfish desires in the moment.

i cant not wait until weirdmageddon

Be prepared to find out why the most common joke at the time for the last three episodes was that Alex Hirsch finally managed to kill the censors.

Here we go... Only 3 episodes left

I'm not saying Mabel isn't at fault, but Ford has to share some of the blame too for not informing the Mabel and Stan how dire the situation was.

Welcome to Weirdmageddon. There are no seatbelts and you are free to have your arms outside the car to flail about in helplessness, madness and horror. Enjoy!

NO ONE TOLD MABLE ABOUT THE RIFT HOW THE HELL WAS SHE SUPPOSED TO HAVE KNOWN!? The same thing happened with Ford! He was tricked into almost destroying the world! Yet it's not okay for Maybel who doesn't have any clue of the gravity of the situation???

its literally Mabel's fault tho. yes she didn't know what it was, but why does that excuse her from giving away someone else's stuff? ESPECIALLY to someone they already had issues with before...

Yeah. All of the characters are flawed, but for some reason, when it comes to Mabel, the flaws are all some people seem to focus on...

thats actually really cool i never heard about that

When you talked about Mabel and Dipper's parents about all that, I was thinking that Mabel is talking about the only thing that she gets to bring home from Gravity Falls is Dipper, he is the only thing from the summer that is going home with her.

Ford shares blame definetly but like. She still know it doesn’t belong to her and isn’t hers to give away and she also still knows she’s doing it to get something she wants that the others don’t want. She’s categorically in the wrong here no matter how ignorant or manipulated she is.

Every character has been selfish in some capacity Dipper, Stan, Ford, heck even Wendy and Soos that doesn’t make them inherently selfish people and besides Mabel had changed ever since the sock opera episode she’s been consistently selfless so to say she hadn’t is just wrong.

It shouldn’t need to be literally the key to world safety for her to know not to give away stuff that isn’t hers to get something only she wants.

This is literally her established character. She’s been selfish since episode 1

If she was only selfish in this moment you’d have a point. But this is her most consistent character trait

I’m really tired of all these people coming out of the woodwork to bash a 12 year old girl for making a mistake at her lowest point. No one else in this show gets nearly as much flack for their mistakes it’s honestly insane

Mabel is still the best character yall are tripping

Unfortunately when you’re feeling alone and scared, being selfish is a pretty normal thing… especially as a kid. I do think Mabel was doing better, but this experience made her regress a lot. Only one person can talk her out of it now…

Plus, she immediately regretted it as soon as it was broken. It was a moment of weakness, but a moment was all Bill needed.

The intro thing is just b/c they played a shortened version for some of the final episodes. Also considering Dipper's parents left him with (who they thought was) Stanford for the entire summer with no contact, maybe they would be thrilled to leave his education up to him.

Mabel didn't really know that handing the thing would be the end of the world

I'm not saying Mabel is COMPLETELY blameless. I just think there's a lot of blame to go around, and to put it all on Mabel, like some fans do, is really unfair.

They did not develop her character from that. The one time she gave up something, it turned out the dude was a creep anyway. She has never put others before herself yet

I can’t blame Mable. She had hit a low emotionally and knew Blendin could be trusted. She was in the dark about the rift because of ford and she didn’t know what it did.

Happy birthday, Dipper and Mabel :)

Was this reaction dropping on their birthday planned?

I suppose you’re right. I may have jumped the gun a tad on that one.

It's okay to call her selfish for this. In the graphic novel she very directly admits that she was in the wrong here and apologizes for it. (What is not okay is to hate her for it since she is just 12).

She's been watching them pretty regularly for the last few eps, I think we're safe.

And they literally developed her character from that, lol. Flawed characters are not bad. They are flawed, and, realistic. Don't spoil what comes up, but that is the right decision later, and Mabel literally learns in Sock Opera, too, lol.

no I thought she was the worst character before that I get the manipulation and don't blame her for that it's the other stuff like everyone else giving up what they want for her to get her way

Also, Mabel had no idea that she was selling out humanity, because Ford and Dipper kept her in complete darkness.

I completely understand Mabel here - with her home life issues, I would’ve stayed too.

12 Year old girl does something out of character while going through the worst day of her life, getting actively manipulated, and will have to go back to, a possibly broken, home without their only support. A lot of the fans: "WORST CHARACTER"

lol yall hating on a 12 year old with parental issues at home

So crazy haha!

No no, that's the second to last episode. This is just the start lol

So it's heavily implied that their parents are going through a divorce based on some details written in the real journals and the new Bill's Book, which is the real reason they were sent away for the summer. So the parents could work out what they're going to do.

Someone tell Alicia she needs to watch the opening for the next few episodes.

mate you neeed to add way more lines than that

Okay I feel like I need to say this but remember that Mabel is 12, in a current state of distress, and being actively manipulated when she made that decision so I don’t believe it’s fair to call her selfish here.

(｡´･д･) me as a twin listening to Alicia the non-twin speaking about twins

the episode where mabel becomes worst girl

Fitting, alicias timing is truly on point

I recently saw a comparison between She-Ra and adult Ben Tennison and now I can't unsee She-Ra being Ben cosplaying/crossdressing :|

oh hey its dipper and mabels birthday today

Yeah Ford was pushing his own feelings onto Dipper. His trust issues, his issues with his own twin and so on. I also think he was trying to fill that void that Stan has left fot the last 30 years with Dipper, which isn't fair to anyone involved

I do also like the juxtapositoon between Mabel and Dipper. Mabel, not wanting to grow up and Dipper wanting to grow up to fast.

To think, if Dipper had just trusted Mabel like he had all summer and told her about the rift, this wouldn't have happened. Not blaming Dipper btw. Ford pushed his own problems with trust onto Dipper casuing him not to tell Mabel important information.

Let WEIRDMAGEDDON commence!!

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