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Added 2024-09-14 03:57:35 +0000 UTCcoughing and thriving
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Source on the "Oda wanted it", thing? Haki has been around since the beginning, from Shanks and The Lord of the Coast, to Dory and Brogy's visible auras as they sent the Straw Hats off, to Enel's Mantra. Oda is the type of man to plan things out, and this is exactly the type of thing that he would have accounted for. Without a direct source confirming that it's a retcon, that's just as much of a theory as the idea that the black armor is just there for the viewers, not something that's visible in-universe. Even then, the second theory honestly makes a lot more sense for continuity than the former does.
Moku
2024-10-09 04:04:22 +0000 UTCNot just "at this point" been like that since Alabasta.
Okoga
2024-09-27 18:08:23 +0000 UTCI remember when Smoker and Law VS Vergo was in like every "Top 10 anime fights" video that came out around this time.
PerfectYarn
2024-09-20 17:12:45 +0000 UTCbandana on xD i totally agree but the bandana argument always makes me crack up lol
Gingerrr
2024-09-19 22:00:02 +0000 UTCCan't wait for the call back to this episode later on lol
Sprocket
2024-09-16 14:38:37 +0000 UTCThe black is just a visual for us so that we can see the haki, the characters don't see the color change.
Gurth-Quake
2024-09-15 22:28:44 +0000 UTCGuinea pigs in the pants? Please.. I watch WTFIWWY, Nash wishes guinea pigs were the worst things people have put in their pants.
Seraphem
2024-09-15 18:37:14 +0000 UTCPSA to Alicia to quit the powerscale dickriding, this is one of the most common and the most obnoxious anime fan traits thats ever come into being and its way too stupid for someone like Alicia who is usually hyper perceptive. People see a character that they percieve to be so much weaker than one of the protagonists that literally ANY amount of back and forth between them they see as bad writing or padding and will shit on it like the protag was beaten within a inch of their life. For one thing Monet isn't that weak, and shes clearly decently skilled even beyond her DF which being a Logia is strong by default. Secondly and most importantly, Zoro didn't even come close to struggling, bro was using two swords instead of three, didn't pull off a single attack and didn't even bother putting the bandana on. Even if not for the actual explanation in the anime, sometimes a fight is just a fight, its not indicative that Zoro is weaker just because he doesn't decapitate his opponent within 2 seconds, its just how he fights.
Lewd Angel
2024-09-15 12:53:28 +0000 UTCi personally think basic armament is invisible which is what is used to be able to interact with logias, and armament: hardening is a condensed armor technique used.
Santi
2024-09-15 02:15:36 +0000 UTCI guess Haki's visibility isn't that consistent. I kind of assumed it was like Nen or Stands, where only certain people can see it, and we as the audience only become able to see it when the point of view character can. Maybe this is contradicted at another time, but even Rayleigh said armament haki was like "an invisible suit of armor" when he explained it to Luffy. But you're right, there are times where you can only tell it's there because a person is grabbing a Logia user. Maybe because it just looks cool when someone grabs smoke for seemingly no reason, like we're seeing it through the eyes of the common bystanders who are standing around going, "He grabbed smoke?! How?!"
Lexi
2024-09-14 22:46:49 +0000 UTCHardening is a technique of Armament Haki. Base Armament is invisible
Memento Forever
2024-09-14 22:12:26 +0000 UTCIt was explained in the manga (ch 1067), but I'm not saying it for spoilers. However, be careful about sharing "theories" about something we literally just saw, since you could unintentionally give hints or spoilers.
leviathan_13
2024-09-14 20:32:47 +0000 UTCYeah, but I don't think that's a "fact". That's how readers interpreted it. The internet is full of "Oda said" or "Oda wanted" myths. If I'm wrong, you are welcome to share the source.
leviathan_13
2024-09-14 20:24:19 +0000 UTCThe thing about armament haki, was that Oda wanted it originally to be inviseable, but it was hard for readers to know when haki was used, so he retconned it, and made it visible sometimes. example when Luffy punched the Kraken the crew commented on his hand being black.
The_real_illya_enjoyer
2024-09-14 17:27:09 +0000 UTCKinda crazy how you accepted that Tashigi had haki because Smoker said it, but when luffy confirmed him, sanji, and zoro had it you didn't. Not a big deal just interesting how it was the same in both situations.
SpartanManJDOGG
2024-09-14 17:14:14 +0000 UTCat this point in the story the manga is WAY faster. single panels become several minutes in the anime. Also Toei zooms in on any women even if they were in the background further stretching out the run time
Cole Savoie
2024-09-14 15:54:13 +0000 UTC11:25 It isn't explained yet in the manga or anime why it was considered a failure but personally I think it was a failure because it doesn't give the user a hybrid form and it likely won't reincarnate into another fruit after death
Trevor Appel
2024-09-14 14:47:57 +0000 UTCI do love Monet and her aesthetic is great how she is a harpy regularly but a Yuki-Onna when she is made of snow
Icy
2024-09-14 14:41:29 +0000 UTCWell the whole thing with armemenr is the black coating is the basic but you can just put haki in your hands to touch a Logia. The black is when you are using it more intently.
Icy
2024-09-14 14:31:43 +0000 UTC48:40 That's just how Zoro is, he rarely starts a fight at full strength. He usually starts off in defense mode to observe
Cvillain626
2024-09-14 13:42:49 +0000 UTCNo way she didn't read the subtitles throughout that entire Monet v Zorro rant 😭
King of flames
2024-09-14 13:13:39 +0000 UTCIm sorry that you're sick and I hope you feel better...but sick hysterical chaos Alicia is pretty great too xD
Cvillain626
2024-09-14 12:52:50 +0000 UTCThe Gas-Gas man would be a pro at GASlighting lol
Ryan Searle
2024-09-14 11:50:27 +0000 UTCLuffy has no idea how wrong he is.
Sam Marsh
2024-09-14 10:56:06 +0000 UTCpeople spoiling there
Fenronin (Dorian Dubourg)
2024-09-14 09:43:10 +0000 UTCheadasscannon, the only reason Zoro isn't 1shotting Monet here is because she basically turned into one of those bird enemies from Elden Ring and we all know those are a pain in the ass to deal with
nick
2024-09-14 09:41:51 +0000 UTCMonet was using ice picks, not kebab skewers. Some skewers can have similar handles, but ice picks generally have them more. It also makes sense with her having the Snow-Snow Fruit.
Koga Wolfe
2024-09-14 09:02:57 +0000 UTCCatching the cold shoulder and feet was just spot on. But how could you miss the frostbite, it was so obvious.
GeeksFTW
2024-09-14 08:02:58 +0000 UTCi can't wait for her to find out why that man made devil fruit is a failure
Royce
2024-09-14 07:24:59 +0000 UTCI always imagined that the darkening aspect of armament is demonstrating advanced useage, and something only other haki users can see. That is why pre-time skip Luffy, and viewers, can't see anything.
GeeksFTW
2024-09-14 07:20:56 +0000 UTCI think Alicia's underestimating how strong and skilled Monet is. I mean, she was sent to protect Caeser, and she's a Logia user.
Anzac-A1
2024-09-14 06:18:56 +0000 UTCMonet: Literally on screen pointing out that Zoro is only being defensive against her. Alicia: "Why da fuck he not win yet?" (I'm not complaining, just found it funny Alicia interrupted the answer by asking the question.)
Johnathon
2024-09-14 05:55:54 +0000 UTC"Black haki really is black. It's not all black. Some of it is." Uh... I don't know how to tell you this, but what you're describing is a visual inconsistency which is exactly what I said/agreed with Alicia on, so how about you "stop confusing people" lmao. Also, it's not that deep. Even if I did, it's not like getting the explanation for how Haki is shown slightly wrong is going to ruin the plot of the show for her, so relax.
Erica Wilder Boulter
2024-09-14 05:50:02 +0000 UTCArmament Haki only started being black after we learned it existed. Because before that, none of our protagonists knew about it.
Anzac-A1
2024-09-14 05:45:38 +0000 UTCIt's not just visualization. Black haki really is black. It's not all black. Some of it is. I could bring up examples from later on that make it super obvious. Though really the fact that it's also black in the manga should be enough. They never indicated it was "visualization". Stop confusing people.
rando
2024-09-14 05:34:19 +0000 UTCYou're right about the visual indicators of Armament Haki being kind of inconsistent, but I guess it's basically the animators way of trying to make a scene look more dynamic and cool. Conqueror's Haki will also get a new visual indicator too (outside of that typical "gust of powerful wind" effect) and it's just as inconsistent lol.
Erica Wilder Boulter
2024-09-14 04:49:46 +0000 UTC
