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man, i have seen this backstory more times than i can count now, and it STILL has me sobbing. Aren't feelings supposed to go numb at some point?
Rinthewolf
2025-02-12 11:27:14 +0000 UTCOf the Donquixote Pirates, I probably was annoyed by Senor Pink the least, despite his quirks. After learning why the quirks exist - damn. My boy truly is hard-boiled.
jdoggivjc
2024-11-16 07:15:44 +0000 UTCso they do meet again and have that drink but as a non-canon manga cover for a later chapter, seinor pink is telling his story while franky and the bar tender are crying from his story :(
PhantomOak
2024-11-12 23:00:50 +0000 UTCWould add that Monet sometimes had those thick geek spiral glasses.
ChaosSepher
2024-11-12 22:14:07 +0000 UTCSorry. I didn't mean that *you* were half-baking it. I meant the show was half-baking Senõr Pink's depth. And I don't disagree with what you are saying. But I feel like the show *is* spoonfeeding us how we should feel about Senõr (sadness, respect, etc.), and I just think what the show is *telling* us to feel very poorly matches the facts of his characters. That's all.
DocteurNS
2024-11-11 18:26:56 +0000 UTCHello! I think you misunderstand the point Oda is making. Its not about a reason, we all make mistakes in life, we all act selfish or untruthfully, and it hurts those around us; our loved ones, and its up to us to live with the consequences of our actions, and how we do that. It doesnt matter the reason, because there are many in life, he could had been threatened by Doflamingo, maybe he loved them as family too, maybe he was a psycho that enjoyed killing and robbing. It doesnt matter, that would defeat the point. You want the story, the narrative and ultimately the author, Oda, to spoonfeed you HOW you have to feel about the character, why did he lie to Russian, was it only because he feared the love of his life disliking him? Wasnt their love worthy enough to be deserving of truthfulness? Was there some other reason? I think its obvious from what we see, that doesnt matter, we all make mistakes in life independent of our circumstances, he was horrible and selfish. I think you misunderstand what Oda is saying here, what is "good" is not lying to your loved one, is not being a pirate and robbing and stealing, its not being part of Doffy's fascist, slaver government or something. It's honoring and respecting your past loved one, that you hurt, its living with the consequences of your actions and sticking to it. Even if that means dressing up as a baby to make your wife smile. I think you are too fixated on trying to be told if the character is good or bad, or torn about a percieved bad character recieving respect and cool scenes. So I'm here to tell you... Thats how One Piece is, morality is often very gray, and we see here that even an evil, selfish and lying villain can have a noble, loving side to him. That doesnt make him good ;) Also sorry about half baking it before, I imagined you'd understand quicker than that, hope its to your liking now <3
Xori
2024-11-11 16:50:20 +0000 UTCThis is the last time one piece really got me. Oda's tragic backstory speed run. From now on, we shed a single hard boiled tear for Senor Pink
Pockets
2024-11-11 08:44:08 +0000 UTCAgain, not my point. He made a "mistake" and lost people he loved for it, and then proceeded to keep doing that same "mistake" over and over again. He's a terrible person But that's not how the show presents it. Here, we have the sad music. Franky gives him a respectful send off. Everything tells us this is a tragic character you should respect and feel sad for. Except he's really not. But if we knew why he stayed with Doffy after his family's death, be it by duty, by apathy, by fear, out of misguided revenge against the world that took his family... anything... then he'd be a much more compelling character. If you're going to add depth to the goofy baby man, don't do it halfway.
DocteurNS
2024-11-11 02:19:07 +0000 UTCNot at all, its the end of volume 77 (chapter 775) its really good!
Xori
2024-11-10 22:38:23 +0000 UTCThe whole backstory of senior pink only one song is popping through my head it's the whole scenario For Your Love by Stevie Wonder
Jmb723
2024-11-10 22:37:31 +0000 UTCThere is no need for a reason because that would defeat the thematic point of the story. If we knew why Señor did what he did, we would either excuse him or not, depending on what Oda would show us. We dont need to know because its not about reasons, but about commiting a mistake and losing the love of your life because of it :)
Xori
2024-11-10 22:23:09 +0000 UTCThere's something very subtle going on in this arc with the Don Quixote family and glasses/eyes. Eyes are a humanizing element and multiple bad guys have covered up eyes. Doffy, Trebol, Pink, Vergo, Machvise have opaque glasses, Giolla and Gladius have colored glasses, Sugar has her monocle and Loa G's eyes are always closed. Even Pica's whole gimmick is he's left the rock when his eyes are gone. While most of the ones with glasses have them dramatically broken after they are defeated we only see Senior Pink's eyes clearly and only after we learn his backstory deepening our connection to him. And Viola has truth seeing eye powers.
Doctor Geagle
2024-11-10 20:26:47 +0000 UTCyeah, Senor Pink's story is a tragedy; Sure he may be a murderer, but at the end of the day, he's still only human. I respect the man for his dedication to his wife.
Chris White
2024-11-10 19:54:58 +0000 UTCI "just don't like how Oda presented his reason for still sticking with Doffy"? That reason being...? Still waiting on that one. Also, "since when does one need a reason for being in the Doffy family?" Since Pink's the only one the show tries to pretend cares for others. That's absolutely a writing issue. Just because you like a character, don't treat any criticism of them like a brain fart. Oda doesn't shit gold, ya know?
DocteurNS
2024-11-10 19:28:49 +0000 UTCThank you
Aaro Tiljander
2024-11-10 18:12:56 +0000 UTCLMAO you don't need one, like others said, since when does he need a bloody solid reason to be with doffy family? LOL you just don't like how oda presented his reason for still sticking with doofy, that's a 100% you issue not a writing issue
Raven Shadow
2024-11-10 17:55:14 +0000 UTCI dont think Señor needs a reason, thats not the point of the story. The point is that he shouldnt had stayed with Doflamingo if he wanted an honest life with Russian, but he didnt, he made a mistake and is in penance because of it, the reason I think, its not relevant to the theme and point Oda is making! Señor WAS selfish and horrible, he made a mistake and lost the love of his life, thats the tragic part of it, and he regrets it so much, he does what he does. Is he a better person? does he redeem himself? Oda doesnt answer, just shows it as hard-boiled :)
Xori
2024-11-10 16:21:55 +0000 UTCHe was already a pirate. He joined before he met his wife. In this world being a pirate isn't evil in of itself, and even working for Doffy isn't pure evil. What he does in the modern day is simply protect his allies, the places his boss told him to help, and people he thinks need help, like the fake old lady Franky tricks him into going to help. Unlike the others in his family he doesn't go after anyone except Franky and that's only because he sees a commonality between them. It could be said that he seems to be just going with the flow ever since the death of his family and is just there now because he feels like he has no other place to be. After all, Doflamingo Family is now the only family he has.
Infernal Disdain
2024-11-10 15:43:04 +0000 UTCI mean he wasn't a douche to them, he consistently both protected them and told them to leave him alone since he didn't need them around them. His way of being hard boiled is to be hard and a dick on face value but to help people as he likes and help those out he feels need help.
Infernal Disdain
2024-11-10 15:32:56 +0000 UTCThe reason why he's part of the family doesn't matter. The issue, to me, is that there is none explicitely. Why he joined. Why he stayed. His mental struggles. I don't care. Just throw me a bone to justify the dissonance and why I should feel sorry for him. Like... if you gave me Chopper's backstory, but instead of wanting to become a doctor, he chose to work for Cesar Clown and experiment on children, I'd have questions.
DocteurNS
2024-11-10 14:58:47 +0000 UTCSeñor Pink was allready part of the Doflamingo family way before meeting Russian. He's a pirate after all. Yes, he loved Russian, but he also loved his family and wanted to keep working for them. He's not a good person, but he at least has a code of some sort, something others in his family don't. To me this backstory was very good not because the baby ourfit (witch it's cool and all but it's not like OP characters need a reason to wear extrange clothing) but because his actitude. He seemed cold and distant with all the chicks surrounding him and mistreating them, witch made me think like he was a douche to have them there just to be a prick. After the backstory that changes, he actualy don't care about them and they just probably get close to him willingly when he only loved one woman
Eric
2024-11-10 14:53:00 +0000 UTCsame, just another Franky
Draconic
2024-11-10 14:30:55 +0000 UTCI think it's for the same reason the others joined, the main members of the crew were people who generally didn't have anywhere to go but they heard about this guy who was causing chaos to a degree that they were infatuated with, as for people like Dellinger, Baby 5, and Buffalo, one we know was abandoned and most likely found and taken in by Doflamingo and its probably the same for the other two.
Draconic
2024-11-10 14:30:23 +0000 UTCI just realized another part of the tragedy that is Senõr Pink. Russian was caught in a mud slide, you know, liquid dirt. If Pink was there, he could have saved her with his powers. Smart choice.
Jimmy H Lam
2024-11-10 14:28:33 +0000 UTCI don't need to know why he joined (there are so many possible reasons even for a man that cares) but I would have liked to seem him struggle with being in the organisation after he met Russian. Because if you really think about it there isn't any way to leave Doflamingo's organisation without heavy consequences. Even if Doflamingo doesn't kill you you very likely get a high bounty as soon as you leave the protection of a warlord.
F. Carasind
2024-11-10 12:43:46 +0000 UTCYeah. I feel like the backstory opens more questions about his character than it answers, and without satisfying answers to those, the character comes out less enjoyable. In my opinion, at least.
DocteurNS
2024-11-10 11:27:45 +0000 UTCPink's backstory really pisses me off for one simple reason. We never learn why he works for Doflamingo. You don't really need a reason. All the others in the family are just jerks and psychos, and Baby 5 is just a gullible idiot with trauma. And I was fine with Senor Pink being a goofy manly man with hidden depth until they shoved a sad backstory down our throat. But if you're going to explicitely develop Senor Pink, show him capable of love, empathy and grief... then have him keep working with the others to make the world miserable for everyone, then you better give me a good damn reason. As it is, to me, he just comes off as a selfish, horrible person, who dresses up like a baby to make *himself* feel better for seeing his wife smile. If he *really* cared about Russian and not just his own pity party, why would he keep doing things he knows she would absolutely hate? Give me a reason, One Piece. So, yeah. I know I'm well in the minority here, but I was fine with Senor Pink before, and his backstory completely ruined the character for me. I kind of made my peace with it. I don't mind him as much as I once did. But his backstory fails to resonate with me on such an astounding level that it really messes with my enjoyment of what was, altogether, a pretty badass ending to the fight. Just give me a reason, dammit.
DocteurNS
2024-11-10 11:25:17 +0000 UTCFunny thing is. I liked him well enough until seeing his backstory.
DocteurNS
2024-11-10 10:50:21 +0000 UTCI think I'd prefer a Senor Pink with no context, actually.
Johnathon
2024-11-10 09:29:33 +0000 UTCYou've now seen the most over-rated backstory in One Piece. Imo Oda was right to originally leave it for SBS (manga q&a) material.
Johnathon
2024-11-10 09:28:03 +0000 UTChe the manliest man that ever man'ned
Kevin Spencer
2024-11-10 08:26:53 +0000 UTCfranke . exe has stopped working
Lance Ivy
2024-11-10 06:51:57 +0000 UTCConsidering "modern" Oda, he'd probably put it in an SBS
Unsaidrumble
2024-11-10 06:41:46 +0000 UTCWhat's crazy about Senor Pinks backstory is Oda almost did NOT include it. There is a world where Senor Pink exists with no explanation.
Cole Savoie
2024-11-10 05:02:40 +0000 UTCMy thoughts upon seeing senior Pink's backstory was, "Damn you Oda for making me like him!"
Dragmire
2024-11-10 03:52:47 +0000 UTCAND ANOTHER THING. Stardust mentioned and you don’t make a JoJos reference!? Alicia really fell off with this one.
growupjeff !!
2024-11-10 03:19:50 +0000 UTCI love the story purely based on the fact that Oda’s like “Yeah you thought he was just weirdo, but it turns out he’s a weirdo with trauma”
growupjeff !!
2024-11-10 02:57:51 +0000 UTCYeah, I was waiting for Alicia to see Senor's backstory. I knew it would break her in half.
Wil DeYoung
2024-11-10 02:57:44 +0000 UTCOda was thinking about not including Senior's backstory, but the editors said it was too good to not include.
Gurth-Quake
2024-11-10 02:35:12 +0000 UTCFor how short it was Señors backstory is extremely sad, and a very effective way to get us to appreciate him for the manly king he is. A hard boiled fight to be sure!
Iamir
2024-11-10 02:30:15 +0000 UTCThats the Crazy thing about one piece. A fight between a Gian cyborb self proclaimed pervert. And a Fat middle aged man dressed as a baby with a pacifyer. Is one of the most manly hard boiled fights. With some of the most heart breaking past in all of not just One Piece. But anime. This interaction and backstory could have been ripped out of Cowboy Beebop. And the Crazy and insane character designs just ADD to it. THAT is the genius of one piece. Its not always good. paceing is crap. And can really tick you off. But when it hits. It is Anime Gold.
Nunya Biz
2024-11-10 01:48:48 +0000 UTCIts always the people you dont expect to have the sad backstories. T_T
Lord morokei
2024-11-10 01:39:32 +0000 UTCI wish I could go back in time and stop my younger self from ever thinking less of Senor Pink for his attire and odd behaviour at the beginning of the arc, but this flashback is a fine example that there is more then one way to be hardboiled.
Sam Marsh
2024-11-10 00:39:40 +0000 UTCEveryone talks shit about Senor Pink until these two episodes because no one is gonna talk shit about a real man.
Draconic
2024-11-10 00:06:21 +0000 UTCOne of my favorite quotes from SuperEyepatchWolf about One Piece "Senior Pink is just one singular, inconsequential character in the world of One Piece, yet Oda was able to fill him with a level of grounding and depth that many manga/anime fail to give even their main protagonist"
ParappaTheNappa
2024-11-09 23:45:34 +0000 UTCAlicia you really do not need to apologize for not talking, especially when it comes to scenes and stories like this that make you emotional. You are a reaction content creator, and that kind of emotional silence is the most valid and genuine kind of Reaction that we could ask for.
ChaosSepher
2024-11-09 23:32:32 +0000 UTCOda will drive a spear through your heart with the most unexpected characters.
Captain-Kerfuffle
2024-11-09 23:23:02 +0000 UTCStory I have heard is Oda told his editor Senior Pink's backstory and the Editor then asked Oda to include it in the manga.
ChaosSepher
2024-11-09 23:07:11 +0000 UTCI freaking love Franky with his damaged Terminator Eye here.
ChaosSepher
2024-11-09 23:06:15 +0000 UTCOda was FLEXING with Senor Pink.
Nikolaus Trixner
2024-11-09 22:50:34 +0000 UTCIn todays episode of One Piece ROMANTIC Vision, two hardboiled men continue to pound each others, as the fangirls squee. Things switches between all muddy and rock hard they climb to ever higher heights before it all comes crashing down in an grand emotional moment involving one of the mens Russian wife and the promise of a date. How will this Love Triangle end? What manner of bar can hold two men as hard as this? Will the fangirls get what they want? And is the reality of what happened truly stranger than the fiction? All these questions, and more, will be answered in the next episode of One PIece ROMANTIC Vision! That aside, Senior Pinks backstory is on the list of moments I have been waiting for ever since Alicia started this series, and it is nice to see that the anime does it justice. The fact that one of the most absurd fights between and characters of the whole series, leads to one of the most emotional moments is a testament to how fucking odd One Piece is. And damn they went hard on the Diamante fight.
Ebofa
2024-11-09 22:46:20 +0000 UTCLove how Senor pink starts as just a weirdo nobody cares about, then back story comes and crushes you. And elevates this battle of perverts to unexpected heights.
GeeksFTW
2024-11-09 22:44:34 +0000 UTCGotta say, Pink is one of my favorite characters of all time. When he first showed up I ridiculed him. Of course I would, he looks ridiculous. And then the flashback hit. The slow process of putting pieces together as to why he is who he is, is such an engaging series of moments. Then the townsfolk make fun of him. "What asshats" crosses my mind, and then a realization. That's me earlier. When I didn't know him. And the shame. I've never felt outright ashamed because of a fictional character, but Oda managed that with Pink. What a way to write one of the most tired lessons in society.
Hynkka
2024-11-09 22:44:25 +0000 UTCDamn Franky went terminator on senor pink.
GeeksFTW
2024-11-09 22:31:56 +0000 UTCso one of the things that toei specifically does here that is making it so much worse is that they keep cutting back to shit. For example the bit with luffy and bellamy was basically initiated, then cut to once to develop and then cut to a third time to finish it in the manga. In the anime? Literally like 10 cuts to it over and over
Nopoleon Y
2024-11-09 22:26:51 +0000 UTCI already know this episode and thanks to the thumbnail, all I have to say is. WELCOME BACK TOOOOOO.... SOME MORE PAIN PIECE!!!!! 😂🤣 Alicia, I thought you would be on the princess's side not Leo's. 🤣😂 And now you understand why señor pink is the manliest of men. HE'S SO HARD BOILED!! 😂🤣 I waited for this day for you to see his pain piece and you reacted exactly how I knew you would. This is why I like your reactions, your real with them and you don't care what people think.
UndeadNovaKing 0
2024-11-09 22:06:57 +0000 UTC20 until
Icy
2024-11-09 21:28:47 +0000 UTCAlicia as a request in chapter 1021 for the cover page he drew Senor Pink and Franky drinking at a bar ran by a leopard bartender, and it is INCREDIBLY hard-boiled.
Robert Collard
2024-11-09 21:22:03 +0000 UTCthis made the suffering....at least, maybe a little bit tolerable, to put it generously
Yagi di Hoshi
2024-11-09 21:17:36 +0000 UTCI knew his backstory would get to her.
Icy
2024-11-09 20:40:04 +0000 UTCOh my god i see the hard boiled man himself in the preview pic. Can't wait to catch up
Denaze
2024-11-09 20:34:50 +0000 UTChe's so hardboiled
Paradox
2024-11-09 20:32:28 +0000 UTCBeen waiting for these 😭
Shaide
2024-11-09 20:05:49 +0000 UTC
