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Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers P2

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idk if that is how the houses of the city of Rohan on the hill is made, but in terms of structural integrity I know a village on the mountain, NONE of the houses have foundations, or at least very little, they are all connected to each other and they simply hold by heavily sitting on the mountainside. At least that's what I was told.

Minidiamant

When Gandalf is advising Theodin to ride out to meet Saruman's armies, he puts his hand on the arm of his throne. Grimma does the same thing in other scenes. Theodin, after being manipulated for so long is probably terrified that he'll be manipulated again, and Gandalf's actions probably triggered that fear. It's a really good detail, and you can see Theodin look at Gandalf

Gabe

Hmmm... Yeah I always thought that too. Shouldn't be surprised people stretched the truth.

DrCatspaw

1:08:00 fun fact, they used an actual crowd for the sound effect here, they went to a football game I believe and had the crowd make these noises

Ben Gross

Sad thing iirc the ent wives were confirmed to have been killed by Sauron in the appendices or taken away so far any attempt to rejoin the two would never work out. So it wasn't the ent wives ghosting their husbands.

Random3x

Sad Fact: Earlier this year (2024), Bernard Hill, the actor who played King Theoden, passed away at the age of 79.

DeadlyDangerRanger

you've made a very good decision :3

Yagi di Hoshi

A very noble cause. LOL. I'm new too, but love seeing the unedited cuts.

WarCriminal 127

The scene with the king talking about his son's death... my brother died at age 40 and I'll never forget my mother's words as she grieved, saying it isn't right, a mother shouldn't have to bury her son.

Kinji

First time subscriber here. Excited to watch Alicia in full here. This is the first video I watch. Starts out with her making weird noises at a horn in Lord of the rings. What have I given money to?

MajestNick

"Where is Mama?" "Shh." and with that, the Lord of the Rings passes the Bechdel test.

SweetCandle

tbh there're so many "serendipity" stories in LOTR I'm a little suspect that some might be projection? I joked, as a kid, about Aragorn breaking a bone kicking that helmet, years before that factoid became commonplace. Makes me unsure if someone else imagined the same thing and spread it around.

Sawnderz

I tear up, rewatching the scene where the brother and sister leave their pillaged home, knowing the brother collapses the moment they reach salvation. Could be me projecting, but it tells me he, terrified of what they left behind, focused on his big brother responsibility, and only let himself collapse as soon as she was safe. That's some One Piece shit.

Sawnderz

He does have that...ill-favoured look.

hemahemahema

Aragorn has some elf ancestors, which is the reason for his long lifespan.

Malkalypse

Trivia: At 14m25s in this video, when the flag rips off the pole in the wind; it's been widely reported that this was a complete coincidence, but the commentary track reveals that the flag was rigged to tear away; however, (IIRC) the *way* the flag was blown by the wind and fluttered down to land on the ground next to Aragorn *was* a purely random bit of serendipitous luck.

Silvia Dragoness

Fun fact the flag of Rohan ripping wasn't on purpose it just happened naturally and the cameraman realized it was amazing symbolism so he kept filming

Shawn Stetson

"No parent should have to bury their child" always gets me...

Drewtendo

“He’s not dead I’m in denial” me okay Cleopatra

Leonheart009

chuky wormtung is desuting

Amber Stone

If I had a nickel for every time John Noble has played a father with a streak of being shitty, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but now I want to rewatch Fringe

Chaxinitus

27:00 This is not One Piece 😂

V_VMat

how did I know you'd lose it at Smeagol saying "raw and wriggling" lmao

Michael Mangskau

Arwen thinks she's Kamina, being all. "Don't trust in yourself. Trust in me that trust in you."

DocteurNS

You think them letting Grima go seemed like a bad idea here, you should have seen the book. Not only do they not kill him but keep him in service to the king there. They give him a battlement to lead to which he just runs away.

YukoValis

I thought the same thing about their age gaps and then I realized that Arwen is nearly 3k and Gandalf 55k. They cast them very well for the times. Even the Rings of Power series has a great many good looking cast members.

Yaboi7117

I think the reason he said not to kill him was not because he thought he didn't deserve to die, but because his actions would set the expectations of what his renewed rule would look like. If the king comes back to himself after being senile, and his first act is killing some people publicly in the streets, well you're not gonna feel safe. Even if his crimes are explained, a lot of people may see it more as covering up. Where as if he's banished with his deeds revealed, people are more likely to take comfort as the rule of law still took place even for the worst, and are also less likely to think it's a coverup as you don't leave alive the guy who can contradict your story if its a coverup. Also the first action of a kings rule is said to be an omen to what that kings rule will look like, which is why most kings upon coronation pardon some people and give gifts. A king who kills as his first action is a king whose rule will be dominated by bloodshed, whether other peoples or his own

Trent Cannon

Theoden may very well be my favorite character outside of the main group

Salem

Legolas' goofy looking CGI horse mount was something that was added by necessity. Orlando Bloom had fallen off his horse and broken a rib, so he couldn't do the catch and mount stunt that was originally intended. Their fix was to have the horse just run by him, have him sort of give a hop, and then in post they replaced him with a digital double. A similar bit, remember that scene where they find the slaughtered Uruk-Hai and Aragorn kicks the helmet and screams, thinking Pippin and Merry are dead? Peter Jackson kept asking for more takes because he noticed that Viggo was kicking the helmet harder each time and it was getting closer to the camera, and he wanted it to come flying past the camera and off-screen. Well, the last take, that's in the movie? That scream is so heartfelt because Viggo broke toes on that kick. Him going to his knees wasn't in the script, he's just actually in pain and trying not to break character and channel it into the scene.

Linnaeus

So it's never explicitly spelled out in the text, but what happened to the Entwives is pretty tragic. They didn't just dip and get divorced. See, they're lost in the same way that the Ents didn't know what had happened to the forests around Isengard. They didn't see what happened or find bodies, so they think they're lost. Ents and Entwives used to live apart because the Ents liked the untamed woods and Entwives preferred cultivated lands like farms and gardens. In the ancient War where Sauron lost his ring, Sauron burned the land where the Entwives lived leaving nothing but a barren waste behind. It's heavily implied that all the Entwives died during this. The problem is that the Ents weren't there and when they showed up, they couldn't find the Entwives and didn't realize Sauron killed them all. Thus they think they're 'lost'.

Roto

Another Rohan fun fact, Meriadoc of Rohan is a real historical character from Brittany. Lots of Tolkien's names are directly lifted from history, like Gandalf.

Jobbe Smit

Damn if the universe doesn’t have a cruel sense of humor. I paused the video right before she started talking about death and mourning then almost immediately got a call a grandparent died. Went back to the vid looking to distract myself and then Alicia goes into a whole speech about grief and loss. Crying and laughing. Great analysis tho.

Liam C

My favorite realization of these movies is when Aragorn reveals his age. Puts it into perspective how he’s 87, Gimli’s a dwarf in his hundreds, Legolas is an immortal elf who has likely lived a thousand plus years and Gandalf is a mythic wizard that’s lived even longer then that. The four main badasses of the Fellowship are geriatric uber chads. Just like in anime, in Middle-Earth don’t mess with the old guys

Stuff1235

Fun fact - Rohan means 'to run fast' or 'to hurry' in Hungarian, which makes it a rather apt name for Horselords.

David Bodor

R.I.P Christopher Lee. You were great as Saruman

Alexander Saldivar

True, sorry, give me a sec.

My Small Corner Of The Internet

A lot of classic D&D magical items owe their origin to Tolkien. Cloak of Elvenkind, Boots of Elvenkind, Rope Of Climbing, Mithril armor...

Linnaeus

Edoras is such an amazing set, and I love how perfectly they were able to match the description from the books: "Legolas gazed ahead, shading his eyes from the level shafts of the new-risen sun. 'I see a white stream that comes down from the snows,' he said. 'Where it issues from the shadow of the vale a green hill rises upon the east. A dike and mighty wall and thorny fence encircle it. Within there rise the roofs of houses; and in the midst, set upon a green terrace, there stands aloft a great hall of Men. And it seems to my eyes that it is thatched with gold. The light of it shines far over the land. Golden, too, are the posts of its doors." The Roherrim are basically "What if Anglo Saxons were a Steppe Nomad Horse Culture?", and so the names and place names are almost all Old English (Theoden, Theodred, Edoras, Eowen, Meduseld, eorlingas, Grima), like their language is where Hobbit came from (Holbytla, literally "Hole-Builder"). Plus their alliterative poetry and kennings, as we hear a bit later: Arise now, arise, Riders of Théoden! Dire deeds awake: dark is it eastward. Let horse be bridled, horn be sounded! Forth Eorlingas! This is very much in the style of the old norse Eddas.

Linnaeus

Now watch the behind-the-scenes version of the hobbit camp where Andy Serkis in a full-body mocap suit crawls around on his hands and knees while speaking in tongues infront of a bewildered looking Frodo.

unknown organism

thats the thing about the extended editions they are really just the additions for the most part the production company was just like cummon peter you gotta drop this runtime .

Lance Ivy

thats exactly what that was Gandalf telling saurumon through thayoden. God said you fired homie i got the job now .

Lance Ivy

For reference: "Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement. For even the very wise cannot see all ends"

leviathan_13

14:32 The scene with the flag was pure happenstance, from being blown off the pole to landing near the trio

Trevor Appel

Treason of the sort worm tongue did is worthy of death, few would argue against it. Like the dude was clearly murdering people and likely would have gone to assist the enemies on top of that. (Which he did) So literally no reason not to murder or imprison him. (Well maybe there are for imprisoning him due to the tongue but for execution not one good reason not to do so)

Speed1247

John also voiced Treebeard if I recall correctly.

Jamie Hobbs

"Gandalf the white. Gandalf the fool! Ha! Got em, Saruman."

mitchhamilton64

Gandalf did not say "Some people just gotta die" 🤣 That is quite specifically the opposite message of the half-remembered line that is being referenced.

Scrubthulhu

When Aragon kicked the helmet he broke his toes also last movie when Sam ran into the river debris went through his foot and both shots were used in the final cut of memory serves

Nakhtichaos

Yeah, I agree with Alicia: Aragorn had no business stopping the king from executing Wormtongue. There is also nothing inherently wrong with it either: capital punishment is the standard for high treason. It's not even like Wormtongue redeemed himself or showed remorse at that point.

leviathan_13

Lee? thought it was Bernard Hill.

GeeksFTW

Brah... 🤣👍

RedRam-Ipsen

that's insane lmao It's like the wind said "hol' up let me make some symbolic shit happen"

WillGlacier

The hobbits also all had short doubles for any wide shots that didn’t focus on their faces.

unknown organism

I think even with this interpretation it works well. Remember that it is important to keep Saurons eye focused far from Mordor, and that the intent to destroy the Ring is kept shrouded.. So Wormtongue telling Sauruman that Isildurs heir, the rightful king of Gondor is in Rohan still plays supports that overarching plan

QuibblesAndGitz

the flag tearing and flying away apparently wasn't planned it just happened

Normandy21

Fun Fact: Our favorite dwarf Gimli actually had two actors playing his role. For the close ups we had John Rhys-Davis while for the wider/body shots we had his shorter counter part; Brett Beattie. If memory serves, John was actually one of the tallest cast members of the main crew so it's funny to realize that he got casted as one of the smallest members.

Connor Clemmons

Just as a little interesting fact : when Eowyn talks of Aragorn as ''Dunedain, descendant of Numenor''. Numenor was the uber-empire of men thousands of years ago, swallowed by the sea Atlantis style after Sauron let himself get captured by them and made them mess up everything. The men in the last Alliance that defeated Sauron in the first movie, Isildur, his father Elendil and all, those are the last survivors that fled when Numenor was destroyed. Back when they were ''pure'', men of Numenor lived up to 350-400 before dying of old age. Thousands of years later, it's a lot less, but still there. Hence Aragorn standing at 87 looking like a man in his thirties.

Le Karibou

My reaction to Aragorn sparing Wormtongue was identical to Alicia's. The guy's name is fuckmothering Wormtongue!

Liesmith

Turns out, Galadriel's "regular" gifts were way more valuable than anyone would have thought: Elven rope that's near unbreakable (unless it NEEDS to be cut) and unties itself when prompted, and elven cloaks that keep warm and mimetizes themselves with their surroundings. Basically magical gear.

Miguel Aarón García

The backstory behind the Ents and the Entwives is a sad one. Basically, the Ents prefer living in forests while the Entwives prefer gardens and fields. They would visit each other whenever they felt the need. While the Ents live in Fangorn Forest, the Entwives lived across the river. However, during the War of the Last Alliance, Sauron scorched the Entwives' garden in an effort to delay the Last Alliance's march. After the war, the Ents went to visit, but found a barren wasteland instead. The Ents searched long and far, but never found the Entwives. By the time the Ents meet Merry & Pippin, it's been over 3000 years since an Entwife has been seen. Tolkien never gives a definitive fate of the Entwives, leaving it up to readers to decide if the Entwives perished or survived.

Some Guy on the Internet

Rest in piece Bernard Hill, true King of Rohan.

My Small Corner Of The Internet

One important thing to note regarding Grima and the stuff he tells Saruman: Saruman knows all of this. The exposition is purely for the viewer. Aragorn asking Theoden for mercy for Grima does have a consequence, but it's not a negative one. This is kinda one of the things that I think the movies didn't do too well, giving this exposition through Grima and therefore invalidating Aragorn's mercy.

Nikolaus Trixner

"Inside you there are two Smeagols. One is a good boy. The other is a little shit." --Cherokee proverb

Liesmith

Who needs sleep anyway

Jaffar Black Fang

1:08:26 The Orcish chanting here was done by the crowd at a rugby match in New Zealand. Peter Jackson led them through it during half-time.

Anzac-A1

I'm so happy that you're reacting to this trilogy! My dad was the sole reason I got into the Lord of the Rings trilogy, and it was a huge part of my childhood.

BewearKing64

crazy how this came EXACTLY when i finished part one, good thing i got to it late and have an atrocious sleep schedule

Ellerian

Literally started Part 1 30 seconds ago XD

Brandon Duckett

Insert M.Bison 'YES!!' Meme here ..

CrazyChameleon


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