.H. .X. .H. 70-71
Added 2023-11-17 20:00:03 +0000 UTCAnd it continues....
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Razor is not out bc the ball didnt ricochet I believe idk...
Ron Jackson Jr
2024-08-29 06:25:19 +0000 UTCwhy u guys called it volleyball when its dodgeball?
Ron Jackson Jr
2024-08-29 06:18:02 +0000 UTCPause.
Sasha
2024-01-19 23:16:58 +0000 UTCThis arc is soooo underrated for it’s incredible character development and foreshadowing. Gon and Killua’s relationship is absolutely one of the most fascinating parts of HxH’s writing for me. And really impressed Cannon picked up on the weirdness in this episode! It probably helps that he’s newer to Shonen anime and not so ingrained in the tropes, which allows him to pick up on Gon’s selfishness moreso than when I watched the show for the first time. Soooo excited for the guys to see where this all ends up…!
MissJodles
2023-12-21 14:33:15 +0000 UTCGon hit the ball so hard he created Sozens comet in the ATLA universe
Caleb
2023-12-03 21:11:44 +0000 UTCAlmosttt there <3
Ramennn
2023-11-26 02:17:08 +0000 UTC"there's no way this is a 5 episode long volleyball game" yeah they not ready for haikyuu 😭😭😭
komispo
2023-11-24 07:30:42 +0000 UTCEh idk I feel like killua wanted to be the person holding the ball too everyone takes in gons feelings and killuas psychical condition but not his feelings also
Pressure
2023-11-23 07:22:05 +0000 UTCNOBODY IS SAYING that Gon doesn’t value his friendship or that Gon can’t act selflessly. I mean we’re talking about a single instance which is this volleyball game and nothing more. Though it can’t be ignored that Gon shows impulsivity, brashness and surprise surprise selfishness through out the show, everybody knows that doesn’t make the entirety of his character. In fact it was usually overlooked and seen as a quirky trait until the chimera and arc when people were confused by his “out of character” behavior and wondered where it came from. Can you really be surprised that people fixate on the grayness of his character? I mean it’s very interesting. Not a single person on this planet is entirely good and yet in shounen anime specifically, most protagonists are made out to be righteous and “good” to give audiences a character that they want to root for. And HxH on the outside seems to be doing the same thing when you first start watching. A 12 year old kid with inhuman capabilities is looking for his Dad and making friends along the way, this kid also seems to be incredibly sweet and puts peoples well being before his own. Sounds like a typical shounen. Except it’s not. Because instead of the author plopping a unique character into a fantastical world, he put a “child” into a fantastical world. And children are known to be sweet but also selfish because of their underdeveloped morality. The fact that Tsezguerra's is the one worrying about Killuas wellbeing and not Gon, HIS BEST FRIEND is all that needs to be said. His hands were quite literally charred, and Gon decided ENTIRELY based on emotion that it had to be Killua cuz it just wouldn’t feel right if it wasn’t. Like that is ethically wrong. I wouldn’t say it’s BAD, but it’s not right. Especially if there was someone else there willing to hold it for him. Even you agree that there are moments and evidence of Gons selfishness sprinkled through out the show, and Im arguing this is one of those moments or at the very least a clear indication of differentiation between what would be considered a typical shounen protagonist. Cuz Ik for a fact Natsu, Naruto, tanjiro etc. wouldn’t have allowed their friend to continue to hold the ball if it meant their physical harm. Just because Gon would do it himself doesn’t argue that it isn’t selfish. It just shows what friendship means to Gon which is pretty drastic if applied to real life. You can manipulate people unintentionally, it happens all the time. People can be unaware of their own tendencies and still indirectly hurt people. I wouldn’t even really say Gon was manipulating Killua, but it’s EVIDENT how Killua has an undying and arguably unhealthy sense of loyalty for Gon because of reasons I stated in my last message, whilst for Gon it’s far more simplistic. Gon having that much power over Killua and not using it to prevent his harm and instead to promote their bond is at the very least leaves a bad taste in your mouth. whooo cares if this is a comment section this is like one of my favorite topics let’s keep this going 🙈🤭🤭
Saidah
2023-11-21 00:58:05 +0000 UTCStill can't with the way y'all deliberately overlook piles of evidence to the contrary, of how much Gon not only values his friendship with Killua, but also shown countless times just how selfless he can be, for no reason at all. Even in this dodgeball match alone. Instead, people fixate on a few instances that don't fit cliche behaviour, and raise these high as proof -- "Don't be fooled by all that cuteness, he hides a dark side like you wouldn't know." -- which is technically true, but then they blow the 2nd part way out of proportion, like they're trying hard to balance out his "cuteness". This is the opposite of adding nuance. It's diluting the character into a mere archetype -- they must either be all good, or they must be a strong gray, etc. I've seen people comparing Gon with fucking Hisoka. Hisoka. At this point, I'm just repeating myself, but like I said, this wouldn't be an argument at all, if Killua just had some minor bruises. In that case, the boys have surely gotten worse injuries in their sparring, and we just saw Gon take a hit to the head, bleeding and everything, and continue playing. In case it wasn't obvious, these aren't normal people. Tsezguerra's proposal wasn't because he thought it was some serious damage -- it was because he worried about the pain Killua must be in, and how it would hinder him from holding the ball or playing effectively, like Hisoka. To which Killua just said "I can take it, bro." Not to mention that another reason Gon would be fine with Killua holding the ball, is because he would do the exact same thing (and more) in Killua's place, without question -- I don't think anybody can argue this point. He's not asking Killua to do anything he wouldn't do himself. You just said Gon "used" Killua -- that implies an attempt to manipulate. And yet you say it may not be intentional, which makes no sense since you can't *use* someone in this way accidentally -- you can only be thoughtless at most. Which is the most you can accuse Gon of, typically in the heat of the moment. And even then, at the heights of his own recklessness, he's the one who suffered most, he always placed all possible burden on himself, never his friends. Anyways, this isn't the best place to argue about this stuff, Patreon comments are awkward af ...
SoreDakeNoKoto
2023-11-20 22:25:17 +0000 UTCNobody thinks that Gon wanted Killua to hold the ball to deliberately hurt him. No matter his intentions, it is selfish to prioritize emotional needs over a friends physical well-being. Especially because for Gon and Killua their friendships means two different things. For Killua he feels useless next to Gon unless he can contribute. Gon changed his life so he feels as though he owes him, a debt that can’t be paid easily. We can even see that in the exam arc he didn’t even know Gon and him were friends until Leorio pointed it out- whilst Gon thought they were all along. It’s apparent that Killua doesn’t necessarily feel worthy of Gon because Gons so “good”. So he’s willing to repay him for his friendship by any means, even hurting himself. For Gon to use that against him- even if it’s not purposeful is pretty selfish. For Gon, he needed Killua to hold the ball to establish trust in their friendship, whilst for Killua it meant so much more. any normal shounen protagonist would put the needs of his friends first before anything else. Again I don’t think Gon is bad or evil for this type of thinking, he’s a child it’s to be expected and in my opinion brings nuance and complexity. But it just is an example of how togashi uses shounen troupes to gaslight his audience.
Saidah
2023-11-20 19:00:38 +0000 UTCErm, I'm sure it's comforting to find patterns in stories to validate one's insightfulness. But the evidence clearly indicates this situation is not part of that pattern -- from the obvious dialogue, to the non-verbal exchanges, to the preceding characterization. Togashi is not so poor a writer that he would sacrifice the consistency of his story-crafting just to create lame parallels. [And to spell it out, getting called out by Tsezguerra was obviously for his impulsiveness in challenging the Bomber without first thinking of his friends -- a far cry from deliberately/coldly letting Killua get seriously hurt in the match because selfishness, as people are claiming. If you like patterns, you can actually compare this impulsiveness against what happens after the Pitou incident, when he woke up and immediately thanked Killua for knocking him out. There, his attempted charge was another foolish decision he'd made, but one he immediately realized was foolish in retrospect, after calming down, just as he apologized immediately to Tsezguerra.]
SoreDakeNoKoto
2023-11-20 16:53:19 +0000 UTCnah, he was being selfish and he even got called out for it by tzezgerra. That was kind of the point of the 2 moments in these episodes, and it's part of Gons character. I get you wanna defend Gon but his selfishness and childish stubborness are intentional negative character traits he has
kiiturii
2023-11-20 04:36:55 +0000 UTCI mean they're definitely all the main characters even if Hisoka wouldn't be considered a protagonist, I think they are the only characters that have a part to play in almost every arc
kiiturii
2023-11-20 04:33:45 +0000 UTCYou can even see the quick solemn look he gives Killua at 10:50 after the first throw, when he looks down at Killua's hands, realizes he's hurting. But as Killua tacitly told Gon to keep it moving regardless, Gon accepted his choice and trusted him. That's not someone caught in the heat of selfish excitement.
SoreDakeNoKoto
2023-11-19 15:41:29 +0000 UTCIt's natural to feel weird that Gon would knowingly allow Killua to get hurt in order for them to win the game bros-together -- who lets their friends get hurt for any reason, right? But that's a conventional reaction based off our estimation of how much damage Killua's taking and what it would take a normal person to heal. Nobody would be raising a fuss if Killua simply got his hands lightly bruised like Razor's, yeah? Certainly, Gon can be selfish, but he wouldn't have deliberately continued if he thought Killua couldn't or didn't want to handle it, let alone if he thought Killua was taking serious potentially-permanent damage, all for the sake of some game. If he had, then it wouldn't even be selfish -- that would be actively malicious, pointless, and inconsistent characterization, after he just got mad that Killua could've died from Razor's throw minutes earlier. Or got mad about the player mentality. Anyone trying to fit this into some grand Selfish-Gon design, is just subtracting nuance from his character.
SoreDakeNoKoto
2023-11-19 15:33:29 +0000 UTCThat is the surface. The surface is that they are establishing the trust they have within each other, but beneath it is the selfishness of Gon and the unhealthy selflessness of Killua. I’m not sure why you mentioned the Zoldyck arc so I won’t respond to that. I recommend watching “Gons morality” on YouTube.
Saidah
2023-11-19 14:02:05 +0000 UTCNaw' I already knew all of those and you forgot to mention about the part when Gon wanted to get upd the Hades Gate and Heavens Arena Breaking a promise just get what he needs and not thinking to stop for the sake of others might get killed by his actions. I read the manga up-to-date and watched all YouTube discussing about hxh "what ifs". I'm just telling you that there is more to it that you don't see in the surface. Not' just about selfishness
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2023-11-19 09:35:38 +0000 UTCGreed island may not be as complex as some of the other arcs but the good vibes are unmatched and it’s my personal favorite
Alex
2023-11-18 20:01:37 +0000 UTCI think you may be missing the point which is understandable considering it’s very well hidden. The author of this book makes a point of Gons selfishness consistently through out the story so that when his selfishness is tested to the extreme you’re completely surprised and thrown off when it’s been there all along. You’re right they are each others first friends but for Gon and Killua their friendships mean two different things. For Killua he feels useless next to Gon unless he’s of use. Gon changed his life so he feels as though he owes him. We can even see that in the exam arc he didn’t even know Gon and him were friends until Leorio pointed it out- whilst Gon thought they were all along. It’s apparent that Killua doesn’t necessarily feel worthy of Gon because Gons so “good”. So he’s willing to repay him for his friendship by any means, even hurting himself. For Gon to use that against him even though it’s not purposeful is pretty selfish. Even if for Gon it only meant they were in this together, any normal shounen protagonist would put the needs of his friends first before anything else. Again I don’t think Gon is bad or evil for this type of thinking, he’s a child it’s to be expected and in my opinion brings nuance and complexity. But it just is an example of how togashi uses shounen troupes to gaslight his audience.
Saidah
2023-11-18 17:18:42 +0000 UTCI don't wanna spoil much but there're reasons why the characters acted in a certain way, it's not out of nowhere. It's even foreshadowed multiple times since the first arc. This is one of the reason why hxh is so rewatchable for me.
neko
2023-11-18 11:16:05 +0000 UTCabsolutely false aha. You're entitled to believe so though
Can’t touch this Stone
2023-11-18 07:27:09 +0000 UTConly few can see...
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2023-11-18 07:00:56 +0000 UTCYou don't get it! Killua's FIRST friend ever is Gon and vice versa. Can you imagine the anxiety for having a first time friendship with someone and failing that you can't count on them or they can't count on you? What's the point of being friends if there's NO trust and loyalty. Killua is hurt, Yes! We get it but' what do you think would've happened AFTER the game if Killua stayed back and let Tzetzegera hold the ball instead? Exactly! Killua would felt betrayed by Gon just because his arm was hurt from holding that ball. Therefore, if that were to happened Killua will be BOTH physically and mentally hurt.
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2023-11-18 06:59:05 +0000 UTCyeahh maybe it's bc i had unknowingly fallen victim to the illusion of shounen tropes and became dense but i also only realized gon's crazy selfishness in this episode during my rewatch, so it's fascinating to me that cannon sensed it immediately lol
illumi
2023-11-18 06:20:20 +0000 UTCI never would have imagined the main antagonist in the exam arc to be teaming up with Gon and Killua in a dodgeball match. So good and well-done. 🙌🏽 Also, apparently, some consider Hisoka as the fifth protagonist. One reason could be this fun fact: the four main protagonists share the same birthday characteristics which is having the same birth month and day. Gon’s is May 5 (5/5); Killua’s is 7/7; Leorio’s is 3/3; and Kurapika’s is 4/4. Then there’s Hisoka with 6/6. It’s pretty cool if you think about it. 😂
C E.
2023-11-18 03:09:57 +0000 UTCYes and catching to gain the ball was also already exemplified when Razor caught Goreinu's throw near the beginning of the match.
BennLimos
2023-11-18 03:06:41 +0000 UTCThanks for explaining. I understood most of it except for when Bisky eliminated the last Razor minion. That minion still performed a feat that kept the ball in Razors side. But as you've said, being out doesn't actually bar them from participating from the outside. And that last minion was sent outside but kicked the ball back to Razor.
BennLimos
2023-11-18 03:04:16 +0000 UTCI know it is messed up, but I kind of understand where Gon is coming from...he and Killua are a team, and he needs to have a 100 percent faith in his team member to unleash his full abilities like in this game. Also, he knows that Killua's commitment to the game is just as strong as Gon's, so it has to be Killua who holds the ball (perhaps the others may refuse as it is just a game for them).
Shiro
2023-11-18 02:56:39 +0000 UTCYes, I think a large part of the fanbase consider the next arc to be the best, though there are some who think Yorknew is the best arc, I guess we will find out at the end which arc is the favourite arc of the other three...
Shiro
2023-11-18 02:50:10 +0000 UTCI’m scared for it
Cannon Andrus
2023-11-18 02:43:06 +0000 UTCSo nice to hear your comments after the episodes...Carter, as others pointed out, Bisky is taking a back seat and allowing Gon and Killua to face the challenges and gain valuable Nen experience. I also think there could be two possibilities why she has taken a backseat for this game, firstly, it could be that she is just not that great at sporting events (which she herself admits a couple of times), and secondly, Gon and Killua are the ones keen on finishing the game. As she had said previously, she is only in the game to collect the gem 'Blue Planet' (she said that when Gon and Killua first met her), hence she is letting them face the challenges head on. Also, I know Brigs exaggerated it, but I can understand why Razor remembers Ging's words of encouragement and the pat on the shoulder as that might be the first time (or only time) in his life when someone must have said something positive to him. It really did leave a strong enough impact that he still fondly remembers it after a long time! And to your question about the manga and the story, please don't worry, the anime ties up the story nicely, not leaving any loose ends. You can think of the manga carrying the story further if you are really interested in knowing the journey of our characters. You will not be left half-hanging, but those of us who were very curious about the rest of the story started reading the manga post-anime (I just love this story so much and wanted it to continue). So yes, the anime does a good job of wrapping up things, if that is what you are worried about!
Shiro
2023-11-18 02:35:37 +0000 UTCREPLY to Carter: The reason why Bisky does not go full strength is a SPOILER, but remember what Killua said before they went to "Heavens Arena"? Killua said, "the stronger someone is the better they are at hiding their power". Bisky will tell you the reason so why she doesn't like showing it to everyone (I think there are three reasons why.,) It's a bit risky and ugly to tell. lol!
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2023-11-18 02:06:45 +0000 UTCI can't remember what's Bisky's technique, but remember that not every Nen ability is meant to be good for fighting, maybe it's of no use for a dodge ball match... I'm glad Cannon catch up on that weird scene with Gon and Killua. For me there is literally no excuse for Gon to continue doing his attack knowing he is hurting Killua, and Killua also accepting it because Gon said that "it has to be him" and that made him feel valid and needed, boy we have problems here. These kids need some love 🥲 But don't let all this distract you from the fact that Bungee gum has the properties of both rubber and gum
Ale
2023-11-18 01:57:05 +0000 UTCIn dodgeball, clothing being considered an extension of your body is a fair rule as with baggy clothes it could be hard to tell for certain if the ball made contact with the body or not.
Gabriel Machuca Wegermann
2023-11-18 01:26:00 +0000 UTCChimera > Yorknew
Jeremy
2023-11-18 01:24:40 +0000 UTCI’ve rewatched this show tons of times and I literally didn’t realize how selfish it was of Gon to only want Killua to hold the ball until now. I only saw it as a sweet moment but seriously it wouldn’t have hurt them if they switched people. I mean it’s not accidental that the message of that moment was more grey than simply pure, definitely a purposeful choice in showcasing Gons selfishness. But still crazy that it took cannon to say “he felt weird” about it for me to notice that it is seriously messed up. This show plays with shounen troupes and then flops them on their head like there’s no tomorrow.
Saidah
2023-11-18 01:12:54 +0000 UTCFor realz
Saidah
2023-11-18 01:07:13 +0000 UTC@ffltscat yeah I distinctly recall McKay mentioning atleast 5 times that he considers the next arc the best lol
ssj4rit
2023-11-18 00:53:07 +0000 UTCi cant really say nun but ur prob right
Goldy
2023-11-17 23:44:44 +0000 UTCsuchh good foreshadowing in these eps
alexis ♡︎
2023-11-17 23:40:58 +0000 UTCI think he mentioned his preference before.
ffltscat
2023-11-17 23:40:38 +0000 UTCYorknew > Chimera 🤷♂️
DryRips
2023-11-17 23:33:20 +0000 UTCIt's a subjective take. Some people prefer Yorknew over Chimera
DryRips
2023-11-17 23:30:58 +0000 UTCWhat? That frame is just Gon’s eyes I know what you are trying to say but that doesnt show anything its just the way his eyes look from that angle.
Jed
2023-11-17 23:21:07 +0000 UTCL take, main arc is better then yorknew >:(
Chrisiyyi
2023-11-17 23:12:09 +0000 UTCYoo, Mckay said the next arc is the best arc? im so positively surprised... i thought he was a Yorknew stan but it seems he is a cultured mana afterall I think thats the first time i see him say something that is not completely expected of a shonen-brain. I think i misjudged you Mickey, way to go, keep it up
Izaya
2023-11-17 23:01:03 +0000 UTC19:07 first time ive noticed this frame holy shit
Goldy
2023-11-17 22:23:00 +0000 UTCNot every country has the “catch” rule for dodgeball, in this case it’s just getting hit makes you out. Also when Razor was describing the rules for what counts as out catching the ball wasn’t one of them.
ssj4rit
2023-11-17 22:21:10 +0000 UTCMy day became better with these uploads 🤩
Nazerke K
2023-11-17 22:13:32 +0000 UTC"stop being so selfish" Lolll, and just wait on Bisky
Edgy Flame
2023-11-17 22:06:08 +0000 UTCBisky is the type of teacher who lets her students experience the actual fights in order for them to grow. If Bisky was doing everything, it would've stunted Killua and Gon's growth 100%.
Rex Tan
2023-11-17 21:53:12 +0000 UTCThe dodgeball game can definitely be confusing if you miss some of the rules, especially because it’s different from how most of us remember playing. Basically, the big rules to keep in mind are: Catching the ball just saves you from being eliminated—it doesn’t cause the thrower to be out. After you are eliminated, you move to the outside court and can continue playing from there. (Gon’s team was just too injured to take much advantage of that). Each team can use “Back” one time, which lets an outside player return to the inside court.
Michael H
2023-11-17 21:42:04 +0000 UTCRazor was doing his best Cannon impression at 29:05 with them DOGS showin.
notchrisramirez
2023-11-17 21:26:27 +0000 UTCOne episode more please.
anotherpatronmember
2023-11-17 21:24:32 +0000 UTCI HAVE BEEN WAITING YESSS. Best part of Greed Island letssss GOOOO
Edgy Flame
2023-11-17 20:54:01 +0000 UTCSince the game takes place in real life and all the cards/book are nen based abilities. That means certain people are responsible for creating/keeping up the nen in order for the cards/book to be used. Razor is a game master and his nen affinity is Emitter, therefore he is responsible for all Emission based nen in Greed Island. That means everything based around Emission is his nen at play, he can summon 7-8 nen beasts at once and is able to allow other “players” to use cards at free will. He is also able to use his own nen for other things at the same time like Ten,Ren,Ken, Ko, etc… So its safe to say with all the nen he posseses he is 1000% a top tier nen user and is most likely in the top 10 strongest nen users in the world (arguable based on later stuff that happens but thats spoiler stuff) after all he is Ging’s friend who helped make the game Greed Island. So dont sleep on Razor he probably has some of the best showcase of nen in the entire series and is a undisputed nen master, IMO he is the strongest person we have seen so far in the series but can be debated with Zeno, Silva, Chrollo, and Hisoka. Personally I think he is stronger than Hisoka, so that should give you a amrgine for how strong he could be…
Jed
2023-11-17 20:51:54 +0000 UTCYESSSSSS
LK
2023-11-17 20:46:21 +0000 UTCSlay gekians🔥
Pavlo
2023-11-17 20:27:36 +0000 UTCBisky is their teacher she wants them to learn by doing. Just wait for her that’s all I’m sayin…
Professor Rizzard The Third
2023-11-17 20:27:25 +0000 UTCBACK TO BACK LETSGO
Cookie
2023-11-17 20:03:58 +0000 UTCA lovely event when I finish a HxH ep and right as I finish the next ep drops 😭
TheHollanLegacy
2023-11-17 20:03:30 +0000 UTClet's goooo
aubrey !!
2023-11-17 20:02:46 +0000 UTCPlease one more episode per week guys we‘re starving😓
Mansxlook _05
2023-11-17 20:01:32 +0000 UTCFirst
JayPierlis
2023-11-17 20:01:32 +0000 UTC
