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.N.A.R.U.T.O. 78

End of an arc and giving our thoughts so far

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The problem is that in Naruto you can never think things like "there is no way this character gets out of that situation" because basically with the existence of substitution and transformation shit can always happen because of the inner complexities of chakra. Think about how you feel when you watch detective stories or you try to answer a riddle. The joy of the author subverting your expectations comes out of the fact that the answers were there all along and you could have guessed it, but because of the way the author structured the plot you did not. This is a condition for a show's resolution to be enjoyable. When there is constant use of deus ex machina or when the limits are not well defined or if a show becomes predictable, then it's not enjoyable anymore. The damage criticism I can kinda see where you're coming from. By itself it's within the boundaries of anime and manga logic because characters taking unbelievable damage is an accepted trope in anime at this point. The problem is mostly when there is a contradiction between the damage that kills off a character and when it does not. When that limit becomes conveniently blurry it's a flaw.

JeanJean

Early One Piece easily blasts away later One Piece, both in terms of pacing and entertainment. Also, the pacing of Naruto is easily the worst out of all anime, no other anime has ever overused flashbacks as much. Not gonna say One Piece is always perfect but it's certainly not as bad as Naruto.

JeanJean

Carter is on point when it comes to the flaws of the show. I love Naruto especially og but the fights are so chaotic and use cheap ways to subvert expectations all the time. The fact that the limits aren't well defined is the biggest problem, especially with all these transformation jutsus and subtitution jutsus. Really cheap and boring. What's good about the show is the directing of certain scenes, the character developments, the world building and even the fights when they don't rely on dumb stuf. Ironically a lot of people hate Naruto's later parts because to them it lacks the tactical aspect of ninjas, which I can understand but those parts were never really well made in the first place and the better fighting moments were always the more raw power focused ones.

JeanJean

I dont' remember it that well but from what I can recall the pacing of Shippuden isn't much better sadly. Especially in the first 2 arcs.

JeanJean

Man if eveybody is complaining about how slow and boring one piece is why don’t they just wait for the remake. Like bring some suggestions instead of just saying OP is trash

Junya

You’re trash with trash opinion. You are a liar and dont know shit. Do me a flavor and grab your gay SasuNaru bodypillow and drown yourself you douche trashbag.

JojoJack

One Piece is built different than the rest

JojoJack

no way you said ''he is finger blasting him'' bro am dying xDDDD

OoBeRoN Yordanov

Listen I haven't stopped to finished an anime I haven't started yet and I dnno what kinda dudes watch One Piece and take away it even compares to Naruto. I literally gave one piece 250 episodes.. I still don't remember an arc that moved me. They got the fruitlest looking villians with no clear motive. The 4 main characters are all annoying af and predictable like that simp sanji and That dude with the big nose. Naruto had me hooked with Zabuza and Haku then Gaara. I was on that skutopia arc and it was just so fruity. One piece fans I feel like just care about their characters leveling up and fighting. Naruto character growth is fuckin amazing and I already know these dudes gnna love it when shippuden hits that stride

Raj Dhillon

Who cares if he can’t get into it? If it doesn’t make sense to him it doesn’t make sense to him. He’ll figure it out. Who cares if you think he doesn’t seem to understand why he doesn’t like it? There are many people who feel the same way and are still fans. He’s not wrong about how he feels about it. That’s sad and hilarious that it’s upsetting” you. Not that serious. 😂 He also made it very clear why he can’t seem to get into it but maybe it’s more about fans of Naruto not being able to accept it. It’s a reaction channel with five men with different opinions and personalities who like and hate different things that we are paying to watch. Enjoy it for what it is. Like I said, Carter will end up liking it and he will finally understand the things you think he seems to not understand. Lol

GreetswithJudgement

After thinking about it I kinda forgot how many characters have thorough backstories in shippuden. I change my mind Gaara might barely not be top 5 💀

Kamui

I watched OP from the very start in Germany (22. April 2003). After switching to sub to keep up with the show, it used to be my Sunday ritual to get some food and watch the new OP episode, I was very invested in all big 3 at that time and also read the Mangas, along with DB. I 'finished' Bleach first, I liked it a lot, cause i liked swords and the very badass characters Next up was Naruto, I was already a young man when it came to end, didn't appreciate the end of Naruto, but always will love the show for the great times I had with it Kept watching One Piece, week after week, Sunday after Sunday. For almost another decade. The BM Arc, apart from the last fight, was close to unbearable for me. It was just a stretched out travesty of television after 900 Episodes... During the next Arc I decided, after 18 years, to drop One Piece and my Sunday Ritual. While none of the big 3 are 'great' shows, I consider One Piece to be the most inferior for the simple fact that for more than 1000 episodes it has almost no memorable highlights. Yes, it has the best worldbuilding out of the 3, but cmon, look at the sheer volume. Yes it has more Characters, but the designs of most of them are absolute ass, no sorry even worse. Some of the worst, least creative designs I've seen come from One Piece and you guys know fucking well what I'm talking about. And even the highs of One Piece were not that great. If i think back, i would never look for an OP fight on YT, but I would always look for Linkin Park x Naruto or Bleach compilations :D Those fights were just more memorable for me I guess. Although OP had some great arcs, for over 1000 episodes it just wasn't enough and on top of that the general atmosphere of the show always remained very immature, even after almost 1000 episodes, which I guess led to me outgrowing it. And I also have to say there is a lack of character development for that many episodes. It is just my opinion, but I have watched a lot of Anime and read a lot of Manga over more than 2 decades to compare. I do not mean to insult anyone's favorite show, but It takes a lot for this guy to drop an Anime, I finished some of the worst shows and One Piece managed to submit me.

David Weber

I’m 680 episodes into one piece and I can say that it’s so inconsistent the highs are high and the lows are low. But Naruto has the same problems but I still favor Naruto over OP

Brandon Bryant

I would forget so much and just be overall way less into the story

Shadow

fr i've only just finished the east blue arc and i thought it was great and pretty well paced.

darra

Yea but never finishing a show leaves a empty void in your soul

Shadow

Couldn't even watch the first episode cause their voices and interactions were so annoyingly over the top every 5 seconds. I also tried again when they reacted to the first and just had to fast forward 🙃

S0uL YgR

Also a fun fact for everyone who keeps pretending the pacing is worse in one piece or on par. 503 canon episode flashbacks in shippuden alone....do you want to know how many flashbacks are in the worst offender season of one piece when it comes to flashbacks? 10 lol they both do the old school shounen dragging out the story for the manga to get further, but to say theyre the same or one piece is worse about it? Good one lol

ZappyZ

@huxley Youre making the mistake a lot of people make when a one piece fan is telling you to give it a shot. We are not saying the show is bad at all in the beginning, all theyre saying is it only gets better the further in you go. Plenty of us love the original arcs and had a blast with them, even if later arcs are our favorite. This is why we say give it 50 episodes. That doesnt mean it gets good at 50, we say that because you would have finished 4 arcs by then with the core first crew recruited, and are now heading into the grand line, which is the entirety of the one piece adventure lol if youre not excited by that point in the show to continue, then its more than likely not for you. But there is the occasional person, like Moist critikal, who only started loving it 100-200+ episodes in. But none of us would suggest that to anyone lol

ZappyZ

You get it ABC, I was a bonafide OP hater for over a decade. Watched hundreds of anime before I finally gave it a chance. Its peak shounen and the other two aint even close lol HxH is the only one comparable to me in the genre. And Yu Yu Hakusho has style. Still love Naruto and Bleach though, dont get me wrong.

ZappyZ

The point of a show is not to finish it. If you want to finish it, go watch it urself, its a REACTION channel, so them reacting and commenting is what makes it great

Mats Amundsen Winterstø

No one was talking about one piece until people started saying they would like it better. The only one piece criticism is in replies to other comments

Shadow

Bro if they alternated between them we would never finish. It would take them like 4+ years to finish OP at the pace they are watching Naruto

Shadow

I caught up when it was Dressrosa about a decade ago. The worldbuilding is decent, but it's not gonna pull you through the show. If you don't enjoy the first 40 or so episodes, I doubt you'll enjoy the rest.

Faris Alamin

I've really tried to get into it a few times, and obviously a ton of people love it so I'm not gonna say it's a bad show, but I haven't enjoyed any of what I've seen. Again, just a personal preference thing, but it's just sooo 'anime' (if that makes sense) and that kind of thing seems to be why they never got into the medium in the first place so I don't think it'd be for them. Maybe once you get into it the world becomes enough of a draw (I've heard it's got some great worldbuilding), but the idea of potentially having to watch 100+ episodes before you start properly enjoying a show of 1000+ episodes doesn't seem worth the investment risk to me. There's just so much more out there to spend your time on.

Huxley Bennett

Naruto is only better for people who've never seen One Piece lol. It's okay tho, it was my favorite growing up before I watched One Piece.

Watch One Piece

Yeah thats fair. Its why I dont think they should watch naruto and OP at the same time, but alternate between them. Gotta have the shorter shows that are better per episode in there too

Mats Amundsen Winterstø

“Soul Society was the best” people are the same people who finished SS arc and then dropped the series because of the long filler arc after. SS arc only sets the stage for Arrancar and Espada arcs which are the most hype by far. There are genuinely NO bad arcs in Bleach that aren’t filler, whereas it was a chore to get through many arcs in Naruto and One Piece. Even Greed Island in HxH was a slog.

Kyosuke Kagami

Bro the peaks of Naruto and one piece wouldn’t be topped. They get better and better while bleach after soul society ,outside of some cool fights, falls a bit until tybw.

Nonos

I watched 70 or so episodes of OP and didn't particularly enjoy it. It was way too childish and nonsensical, and the pacing was incredibly slow, I fell asleep watching it many, many times. It's my brother's favourite show though, he watched 1000 episodes with his GF in like 3 months and he said that changes later on and it becomes the best show ever. Still, I work 70 hour weeks and it's nice to just watch a 12 to 50 episode show being reacted to, if they pick up a 1000-episode show that's basically sacrificing dozens of shows for dozens of other audiences for the sake of one group of people. I'm sure they'll eventually get to it though, it's got its rep for a reason after all

Reed Stevens

Thats why I hoped they would watch them in batches of 50-100 episodes and compare them. If I just wanted to watch the anime itself I would go do so on my own

Mats Amundsen Winterstø

You can just tell that half the comment section has never watched more than 20 episodes of one piece. Kinda sad watching people shit on other anime just to feel better about their own favorite. Both are great

Mats Amundsen Winterstø

personally I prefer Bleach over Naruto or One Piece, just a matter of taste though. I would always say, that Naruto is overall the better Anime when it comes to the quality (excluding 1000YBW of course).Naruto also has some of my favorite fights in all of Anime. Similar with AOT and HxH, I adore the shit out of HxH, but I would never say it is a better Anime than AOT. The thing is, all big 3 Anime are very stretched and when AOT, HxH and FMAB were their introductions into Anime, they start of with waaaay higher standards than we ever had for these shows. They have no chance but to work their way down the list now, because they started at the top :D

David Weber

just started rewatching s4 of GOT and carter u gotta hurry back mann

Jacob Goldsmith

It's "upsetting" because he himself doesn't know what he doesn't like about it and says it doesn't make sense. But so far they have explained certain things which he doesn't connect I guess, and he is using the substitution as a bad thing and no limits to imagination also a bad thing. We feel like he's focusing on the bad even though he hopes to like it JUST BECAUSE everyone is hyping. Everyone does have different opinions so continuing soley on that hype is not the best way to watch it since it lends itself to a let down. Clearly others are enjoying certain parts but even then he can't get in to it. Many ppl are doing such an awsome job on trying to explain Naruto it's sad he doesn't understand yet but they still have hope for him so you can relax i think.

S0uL YgR

Totally agree, excellent explanation!!!! But just to add extra note about Naruto's Chakra, they mention it soon many times that he had MORE THAN OTHERS because he's like an extra hyper child ANNND the more you train/fight the more Chakra you gain. @NickK did you even watch naruto more than once cause my dude you are still lost on the rules too like Carter

S0uL YgR

also dude check dms on insta

Jacob Goldsmith

Even though I love Bleach so much, and u can tell by the pfp but it sucks after the Soul Society arc, the pacing becomes ass and the comedy aspect ruins lots of things, however I think it is totally worth it until they reach the last arc or the 1000 years war arc

LaYami・砂漠の子

Let me clarify I meant to say "Naruto has more fights more often which are essential that's why it's faster paced" A good example is JJK S1 vs Freieren. Both have fights but Frieren seems to have slower pace that's because it is. One Piece is objectively a slower paced show overall compared to Naruto just accept it. It's doesn't mean it's a bad anime but to me it is Naruto bridge arc pacing is absolutely atrocious current me couldn't watch Naruto if I never watched back then and it's thats the same with One Piece.

Daddy's Home!

Op is still a$$ 🤣

Jeremy Brooks

Man the way people were talking in the comments, I thought Carter was gonna be ruthless with the criticism, but it wasnt even bad lol it was all fair and not even hateful. The kaiju fight is just his smoke baby lol

ZappyZ

Fr I hope we get to it at some point, they were so hyped for that first episode

ooAlmondMilk

One price also has bad pacing but it’s still entertaining through the episodes. There no scenes in one piece that u feel like skipping unlike Naruto where they just yap yap yap. Both have their own unique issues

Nick McGuire

No it doesn’t it the same

Sam Cam

Sir no they wouldn’t be able to watch op if this pacing isn’t good enough mix that with the awful fight animation

Sam Cam

No one did

Sam Cam

No way u typed this dumb ass shit the whole east blue saga is ass and awful pacing if they have a problem with Naruto’s pacing they’d hate early op

Sam Cam

Idk how they themselves wait lol. When I start a show I always want to just see where it goes. The breaks in between would be so hard

Shadow

It'll be interesting when you watch One Piece and realize how wrong you were lol I do think they will like Bleach though.

ZappyZ

Carter’s been gone for a wedding. Once they are back they will start dropping more CG. They already really like it so I’m sure once they are together they will get on it

Shadow

I bet my entire checking account that Canon and Carter would love Bleach exponentially more than Naruto or One Piece. The height of this channel for me is going to be when the boys finally watch it.

Kyosuke Kagami

You guys are looking at One Piece with rose tinted glasses. The first couple hundred episodes of the series has exponentially worse pacing and far fewer highlights to go around. Imagine re-watching those episodes today. They have aged terribly, moreso than Naruto even with its level of pacing and flashbacks.

Kyosuke Kagami

what did they say? it's a bit annoying when the schedule isn't consistent honestly, all good though.

Henrique I. Pereira

I have no understanding of storytelling because I don’t glaze the og Naruto fights that have to explain every single thing that we can clearly see happening on screen? Remove half of the fights from og Naruto and literally nothing whatsoever changes in the plot of shippuden 🤡🤡🤡. Fights are the main focus for Naruto which isn’t the case for one piece, that is an undisputed fact. You give Naruto fans a bad name (it’s a top 5 anime for me personally)

Mitch

Naruto had them like Sasuke. Mad shook

Ernesto Blanco

Thats because you didnt even watch Episode 151 of OP

JojoJack

Hard disagree. One pace slow pace is boring as hell.

Mysterious Figure

A lot of people don’t use Patreon on their phone, and if they do, don’t necessarily want notifications for every single post because they’re only subscribed for a specific show, as well as whoever else they might be subscribed to

Frosty

So many goats in Shippuden

JaJa

Yeah, cause like with this upload even if you get to a hyped moment, it’s over for a week and the hype dies 😂

Lydia

Ummmm, how about “I Am Hers, She is Mine” by Ramin Djawadi instead? 😇

Smokey

Idc we better be getting 4-8 episodes this weekend for this disrespect to Peak Geass 🗿

Daddy's Home!

Gaaras childhood trumps naruto tbh i think besides like mist village where the first arc villans from is the worst

Jacob Goldsmith

Naruto still better than

G

Thats to much

Jacob Goldsmith

Tbh i didnt enjoy the first like 150 epz of op

Jacob Goldsmith

Wth are you even talking about? You clearly have no understanding of storytelling. Fights among other things are used to push the story forward. Take a few fights out of Naruto and story would break apart. Naruto has faster pacing because it has more fights and they're essential to the story.

Daddy's Home!

These long older shows are perfect for binging. I can't even imagine how hellish it would be to watch these shows 1 or 2 episodes at a time.

Watch One Piece

Lol I'm glad Naruto is getting cooked by Carter and Cannon. I 100% believe they would have enjoyed One Piece more. I don't think OG Naruto compares to One Piece at all. Shippuden is comparable only because of cool characters and dope fights. First 50 episodes of OP are way better than first 80 of Naruto. 50-80 episodes of OP are kind of a snooze fest and some of the most boring arcs in OP, but still better than 90% of OG Naruto.

Watch One Piece

I can’t imagine watching any for these older shows weekly even in batches of 4. It would actually kill me😂

Shadow

The first 150ish eps of op actaully adapt 2-3 chapters per episode which is pretty standard pacing wise for anime. And a big draw is one piece doesn’t have repeated flashbacks over and over as well “yapping” that Carter hates. The fact that OP is more story oriented than fight oriented might be more attractive for Carter. One piece is def slow at times but it’s a different kind of slow than naruto.

Mitch

Arlong is really good but saying the first 80 clear the exams, the bridge, and this stretch of episodes… nah

Shadow

Think they explained this a few times

Shadow

Yea and one piece at its literal peak of pacing is still a slow show. One Pace exists for a reason. I love One piece but everyone knows it’s hard to get into for a reason

Shadow

Yeah like sure early OP does have slow pacing sometimes but it’s pretty much the same as og naruto pacing. Feel like Carter would maybe appreciate the different writing style in one piece definitely. But they’ll all enjoy Naruto further down the road for sure tho.

Nonos

Sad thing is this isn't even the worst pacing to come lol

ssj4rit

First 80 eps of one piss easily clear Naruto. Ik op pacing gets hated on but it honestly doesn’t become noticeably bad until around ep 500.

Mitch

One Piece has much better pacing this early on lmao

Poragami

Naruto has worse pacing this early in the anime than One Piece lol. Early One Piece almost had no pacing issues

Poragami

While OG Naruto is super pacey overall due to its initial weekly release, this transition into the next arc is so quick and iconic, definitely where I initially got hooked to the show. Congrats to Carter, hope you guys enjoy the wedding!

lilc

Top 5

G

Justice for code geass ✊🏽

G

Honestly you’re right😂😂😂 the animators sometimes have me yelling at my screen. Early one piece not as bad tho, so I still think he’d like the writing in One Piece better

Sandi

It’s definitely up there

Brig Andrus

🤣🤣🤣

G

If some of them are struggling with pacing rn one piece would kill them lol. And Arlong is one of my fav op arcs. But there isn’t a show slower then op

Shadow

Tell the DJ to play The Rains of Castamere at the wedding 😈

1999

The limits of the show. Oh boy

Keiji

Ye i know for the wedding just moreso ment like i wish i had some idea of todays drop or if there is one. I kno its gonna be slow till carters back but just the wait knowing nothing sucks. Dont let me be jon snow. I dont wanna kno nuthin

Jacob Goldsmith

@NickK All the things that you have mentioned here are either explained or are incorrect... Ninjutsu has got some rules and one of it's most essential rules is a Ninja's chakra nature. Some Shinobi are able to master more than one but that totally depends on the level of their skill. The clone technique is used as a tool for deception. And the reason why people seem to suddenly disappear and appear is because of their speed. They are not actually disappearing but are incomprehensible to the naked eye. All these fights in Naruto are usually shown in slow-mo, that's the reason why we see people casually talking or contemplating life decisions mid-air. The black lines in the arena just hitting at each other, that Cannon was complaining about, were actually to emphasize on the speed of these Ninjas. The chakra arbitrarily going up and down is bs as on multiple occasions throughout OG and Shippuden, we see people out of it. And some even die because of chakra depletion (go watch the Pain Arc again). And about Naruto's Shadow Clones, it is true that the chakra gets evenly split between the clones, that's why it is a forbidden technique as it can totally deplete an average person's chakra. But Naruto is an exception. That's the reason why every time he makes a lot of clones, people just look at him with their mouths open. And as to why he is special is very well explained in Shippuden. And when the clones pop, the chakra does return to the original body (that's solely how Naruto makes SJ work later on in Shippuden iykyk). That's why it's pretty dangerous if multiple clones pop at once. We never see another person make as many clones as Naruto ever in this show. So, it makes sense.

HNadR

i think Gara's life is definitely top 3 most miserable lives in the show whole. At least his childhood

Izaya

I was trynna explain this without spoiling lol. Time will tell!

Brig Andrus

I feel like we’ve mentioned tens of times that Carter is getting married so our schedule will be a little off for the next week or so.

Brig Andrus

This. Naruto is so much better binged honestly. I think I would have dropped OG and never gotten to Shippuden if I watched 4 eps a week. Not that we can change their schedule, they are doing a ton already, but it’s def adding to their feelings on the pacing lol

Lydia

Waiting for the next episodes !

Shaikha Almarzouqi

they've been watching too much GOT and have become feral.

Sandi

i don't think thats the case. He's really into the writing and I feel like sometimes you have to turn your brain off to enjoy some parts of Naruto and just go with the flow and he struggles w that sometimes. Like he overthinks it.

Sandi

What I didn't get is him being weirded out about Shukaku, he isn't explained yet but Gamabunta is. Shukaku will make sense once he makes the connection but I don't get why it's weird

Matheus Eduardo Jezini

I think Naruto's shadow clones are different. He doesn't share his chakra equally between them, that's why his clones are weaker. I don't even remember when they explain this but it's something I remember. It's a special jutsu or something

Matheus Eduardo Jezini

THIS

Sandi

Totally. It's like a more convoluted version of Dragonball. At some point you move from distinct techniques with pros and cons to just gods in mid air fighting and it's up to the narrative who gets the W.

Zonbi

honestly, i feel like its just not carters thing and thats ok. I do feel like the pacing has been horrible but a lot of naruto is building blocks for shippuden. I do hope that he comes around. I do feel like the next 2 arcs are better. "After this its gets better" lol. Thats because it does, gradually! Im glad jack seems to be enjoying it, knew he would! ALSOOOO, as a one piece and naruto fan.... One Piece clears 80 episodes in. Baratie, Arlong Park and start of Alabasta arc. peak writing. Carter just needs to give in and watch One Piece.

Sandi

And many more agree with me

Grady

I wish I got to watch 50 episodes a week lol! I grew up watching Naruto when it was airing on Toonami which if I remember correctly was one a week. What was even worse was you couldn't skip the filler, hell I didn't even know what filler was back then, so if the show was in the middle of a filler arc you had to strap in for the long haul before getting any canon episodes again. Don't even get me started on Naruto Shippuden which took years to come to the US and even when it did, they aired it on Disney XD so it was censored so fucking badly. Thank god we eventually got Crunchyroll and Funimation lol!

KingRat

hate waiting for the boys. its my first watch thru im trying not to go just binge it all but i need more now

Jacob Goldsmith

wish we knew the release calendar more tbh

Jacob Goldsmith

agreed with everything you said. justice for carter

Gertrude Atreides Yeager

Many including me would disagree with that, Grady

Ayaulym🇰🇿

Stop telling guys "after this arc, it get's better". It won't get better dramatically and this sets way too high expectations (like it did with chunine exam and FMAB ending). Naruto og doesn't really have the HYPE arcs except for chunin exam. I love those arcs but let's be honest, it has a lot to do with nostalgia and how it sets up events for shippuden. People tend to be hyped for og naruto because after shippuden on the rewatch it's easy to see some foreshadowing, etc. You guys need to finish the og as fast as possible. It's already slow-paced and pretty childish (compared to shippuden) but by stretching it I feel like the experience gets even worse. It's been 5 months and I can't imagine how exhausting it might be to watch the Naruto og for so long and waiting for a pay off. I finished the whole Naruto og and Shippuden in 3 months and even then I felt pretty tired with some parts, though Naruto is def my top 3 anime. Naruto og won't change much right up until you finish it (you have like 60 episodes left excluding pointless filller), so I think it would be better for Jack, Carter and Cannon to binge this by the end of June. Anyway Shippuden should flip the tables for you. It has some THE best arces in anime that will make you go crazy. Btw Shippuden is WAY longer than og. Og has like 220 episodes with only 130 without filler and Shippuden has 500 episodes with 300 without filler. P.S. Everyone's cooking Carter in the comments is so dumb to me. I actually appreciate the honesty and didn't expect anything else, considering the point in the show. In fact it makes me even more excited to see how his perspective will change when shippuden comes, because it's basically like a different show

Ayaulym🇰🇿

Orochimaru is doing WHAT 😂😂😂😂

Fatipapi

I honestly forgot how rough early Naruto is because of how good it becomes. One Piece is always the one that gets called out for pacing, but watching the two side by side again, early One Piece pacing is waay better than this. Naruto, however, literally improves with every single arc. You’ll think your disappointment in these earlier arcs was a fever dream or something by the end.

Michael H

A man for the culture

Nonos

good point 🙃 I'm a goof. i enjoy the banter either way. Just remember most of the time the ninja logic is to layer your attacks and defense behind clones and substitution. They rarely go in with out clones, so there is logic there. Deception is a ninjas tool. When chakra runs low no more clones what happens is real.

llB0JANGLESll

I’ve also just seen that they are counting what Crunchyroll uses as seasons or arcs. Which isn’t accurate but it’s a way to keep track on what they stream on I guess lol

Jeff

Well, they are saying arc so just going by that haha. And not sure where you are getting your info from lol. Season ‘2’ ends at episode 83 and the 3rd arc ends on 80.

Jeff

😂😂😂

Ly

I also agree with Carter that two magicians fighting on a rooftop (my words, not his), regardless of skills, feel a bit overshadowed by a kaiju battle that levels an acre of a forest with each attack.

Nick K

It's technically the end of season 3 even if the arc isn't over.

Nick K

Ninjutsu is broken and has rules but one if it's rules is that it has no rules. It basically becomes magic, where at any moment even a character could actually be a clone despite us not seeing a technique being used and then randomly appear somewhere else. Gaara literally does a substitution during his fight with Lee while he is midair and fully bound, that allows a sand clone of himself to exist where he was, he now doesn't exist, and then after the sand clone breaks he then comes out of the floor as sand. There are no rules or limits besides having enough chakra which even then the amount they have left arbitrarily goes up and down. Also the explanation around Shadow Clones is so convoluted. They say on multiple occasions that it evenly splits your chakra up among the clones, yet we often see Naruto do massive amounts of clones, but the explanation for it suggests that this would just be a massive waste of chakra. It also never explains what happens to the chakra when the clones pop. Obviously you don't get the chakra back, otherwise there'd be minimal risk, but then why divide your chakra by 100 when you know you'll only get to keep 1% after? The show can only be enjoyed if you just accept that the rules make no sense and trying to get the mechanics of the fights is a losing battle. And I grew up on Naruto, so the nostalgia is working in my favor yet I still see it this way.

Nick K

I appreciate this. You’re named after a goat from this show as well it fits the build

Studio Geck

His thoughts make complete sense. The show has not explained the boundaries of ninjutsu and characters constantly get hit by stuff and then it turns out they're fine. The show does it so much of course you'd be watching and not understand if someone is actually in danger and thus not be fully invested in the fight.

Frizen

AoT was the show I stereotyped and look how that turned out

Studio Geck

and congrats Carter on the wedding! and thanks for all the extra editing and whatever else to prepare and keep the channel going

Frosty

oh im really not complaining about the frequency of uploads or anything like that, you guys have been putting the numbers up since full time for sure and i respect the hustle, especially around weddings and whatever else is going on IRL... mainly just some 'loose' timetables so people for which this is their main content they consume, arent perma refreshing all day everyday until their show of choice pops up

Frosty

Trust me we will get it all dialed once Carters wedding is over, he’s been editing double our usual amount so that we can get two weeks ahead and enjoy his honeymoon. I promise the uploads will flow once we are all back.

McKay Carter

one piece better

Nick McGuire

“Translucent” Briggg 💀💀💀💀

Fatipapi

Tbh i think Carter is just grasping at anything he can to minimize this anime. I think there is some built in bias we dont know about. If I had to guess, this was the show that he stereotyped before they started the channel. The cope here from him is just not lining up with what he is being presented. His right but i feel an added bit of criticism. Respect either way. Just my 2 cents

llB0JANGLESll

The real problem for Cannon and Carter is the pacing. Watching modern anime first then going to the OGs can be tough. A modern Naruto that doesnt repeat scenes or animation would go crazy. Its not noticable when youre young, but as you grow older its easy to see scenes that are undercut by the following scene overexplaining what just transpired.

jblakk

Facts

Kamui

Brig tbh I would say the first two arcs of shippuden are super slow, I mean it does have some amazing stuff in it but it does drag a lot in those two arcs, but after that it does get a lot better in the shika arc (not tryna spoil it but you should know with just that)

Juan Avila

It's interesting how strong they think gamabunta and shukaku are in comparison to the characters they have already seen. I think if this show had more modern animation and could properly show off the fight between hiruzen and orochimaru (featuring the 1st and 2nd hokage), that their opinions would be different. I'm not even a fan of naruto but I don't think the scale of the show got flipped on its head with the gamabunta and shukaku fight, it just features two big characters. The fight between orochimaru and hiruzen had much stronger techniques. If you know you know

Grim Reaper

Damn I was expecting 81 to be out on this drop 😭 my Goat will have to wait another day.

Osvaldo

50/week is the pace the rest of us watched at 😂

Kamui

Carter is right. He usually is. He also said he has hopes that the show does get better, which it does. I never understood why people get so upset about opinions that differ. An opinion is just that, an opinion. Naruto is not my favorite and probably never will be even on second watch (doing it for Brig and McKay to understand and appreciate their GOAT a bit more) but I predict Carter will end up loving it.

GreetswithJudgement

Yea anytime they say soon it could mean the same day or 2 weeks

Dio

This post episode discussion had everything Carter’s soul sucking comment Cannon’s fingerblasting Jack existing

ssj4rit

Bro please man I’m begging for rough timetables on drops… had to search through the comments just to see “the rest will drop soon” but soon can mean within the hour or in a few days or a week… just say “today” or “a few days” or “next week” if you don’t want to commit to a hard schedule

Frosty

NO cinema gek today?

Jacob Goldsmith

THE BOYS/

Jacob Goldsmith

Oh I know 😏

Brig Andrus

👀 😤

McKay Carter

👀

McKay Carter

DATTEBANE

Diana Rodriguez ⛓️

LMAO Brady

Diana Rodriguez ⛓️

sameeee

Diana Rodriguez ⛓️

50/week would be more appropriate

Liam

Lol and that's exactly why I didn't understand why it was such a bad thing for him. On the contrary it should be like well then how far can they take it, which adds to the excitement but hopefully someday he will show this to his children and be like ohhhh 😅

S0uL YgR

Sorry Carter, I didn't mean like actually intending to dislike it cause yea I don't think you would waste your time like that. I sorta meant like a subsconcious sabotage? But I understand if you enjoy things better with a bigger amount of understanding as compared to me who's lost 3/4 of a series not minding feeling as lost as the characters if is intended in some way like that. But I see a lot of ppl still have hope for you so I will too. Also I know they can hear criticism but MAYBE, just an idea, talk about the positive first in turns, and then after the negatives again in turns, just to see both sides more clearly if possible because it just felt like they were cut a bit short of their enthusiasm, from my perspective.

S0uL YgR

Make them watch all the best fight scenes of the franchise so they’ll wanna power through LOL 👀🥷🍥

victoria t

If I understand correctly carter's saying he can't feel the weight of the action because there's seemingly no bounds to what the characters are capable of, so whatever's happening on screen the characters will always have an "out". That's a valid point but then that also applies to all anime to some degree. It's just in other animes it's presented in other ways, like think of all the times characters in anime take ridiculous damage without dying. In most cases we just kinda go "oh...well he's a badass so," and shrug it off, it's just that in this show they substitute with a log lol.

Beeg

Isn’t Carter a Virgo? It’s only natural for him to be critical.

aryastark

Garra is my favorite character Carter. Lock him down now

Darrell Henry

IYKYK and ik yk

Lucky

the early or later one

Jacob Goldsmith

which one

Jacob Goldsmith

whens the boys

Jacob Goldsmith

i hear ya brotha. hang in there

Jacob Goldsmith

around this point is where shippuden started manga wise

Jacob Goldsmith

also was coming out while unfinished so they had to draw episodes out as to not catch up to close to manga

Jacob Goldsmith

My one thing id say to carter is that you gotta remember the character orrochimaru is. He got banished for doing human experiments on people all the way up to anbu to try and get all jutsu. Aka gonna be pretty op

Jacob Goldsmith

They really got no idea 😭

G

bruh Carter unleashing negative nancy no jutsu every week

Goat-ruto

just wait for shippuden

Jacob Goldsmith

Especially since it’s not shippuden yet , it’s way different especially after that Sakura fight iykyk😏

G

Carter, you tend to be more of an active viewer (critical thinker) rather than a passive viewer, so it's understandable if you can't get into Naruto. I could say that it gets better in Shippuden, but I don't want to unnecessarily raise expectations. Once you start the alternative pipeline again as well as returning to watch parties, then I think you will find more anime shows to your liking.

James

My husband introduced me to anime early on when we started dating like 8 years ago and the first 2 anime’s I watched were FMAB and then early AOT. Naruto was the next. Honestly I struggled so hard to get into the start of the show and didn’t like Naruto as a character much but it honestly became my GOAT even though the pacing is a real struggle 😅 It’s important to remember that the show started coming out in 2002 over 20 years ago and the way content was made and digested by audiences was hugely different to now. It’s incredible to see the journey through to shippuden ending in 2017. Huge themes of the show are about working hard, not taking shortcuts and believing in yourself. You may not think about it while watching but that’s what Naruto’s character reinforces all the time, and it’s awesome. Not to mention seeing how much it’s influenced other anime - so much of JJK is inspired by naruto, lots can be said about not understand the power limits but I’d say it’s the same for JJK sometimes. Stoked for you guys to get further into the show and hope you enjoy the journey! 👊🏼

Pats

I always appreciate Carter's opinions because it helps me think about a show I like from a different perspective. Not that they're bad perspectives or that they always tear a show apart, but bc I get fresh eyes on something I've watched for years

Guy

You guys should watch ep 81-84 all together.

A M

There's a discord https://discord.gg/studiogek

Guy

By August, HOTD will have finished S2 and they will be done with GOT. There will be a year straight if not more of no ASOIAF content. Let us have our moment in the sun plz haha

Lucky

Crazy disappointing day today, really sad. Need this content rn.

Lucky

Looking forward to the next batch! 😆

JJX

Iykyk

Brig Andrus

If he got flamed here then yeah prob. He never said he dislikes the show tho and it’s still early on so I don’t get why people are flaming him

Kamui

Appreciate you guys and congrats!!! 🎉

Kamui

Intrusive thoughts took over

Cannon Andrus

The start of naruto is just genuinely terrible. I think most of us fans view it from a tinted view out of hindsight and nostalgia but without either of those it really can be hard to enjoy

brrr

This start of naruto is just objectively bad compared to the other anime they've watched and its not even close. I think all of carter's points are actually valid. As everyone agrees, shippuden is where naruto improves as a show and I think they will enjoy it once they get there.

brrr

🎉🎉

G

Hopefully code geass comes back 🥲

G

I feel bad for Carter for whenever this gets dropped on YouTube. Bro will (most likely) get flamed ☠️

HNadR

it really is a bit sad that GOT took over so hard.

Hechy

Congrats dudes

Matthew Valentine

😊😊

Thomas

Don’t worry guys 3 more episodes are scheduled to drop soon. We did as much as we could before the wedding and after that things will get consistent

Studio Geck

As the show goes on and more explanations are given it will help a lot. Watching it and already understanding the power system and more makes it flow a lot better

Shadow

Can you guys please do a timetable so that we know when you will release what Show ? It’s kind of difficult to follow and it feels like there is 99% GOT and 1% the Rest

Michaela Igl

35:15 Cannon is wild for that lmaooo caught me off guard😭

T.Yaseen

THe true bridge arc is one of the best....in shippuuden ;)

Tim Moore

Naruto is my favourite anime and I got hooked from the very first episode, when Naruto steps up to protect Iruka. That scene gave me chills and made me want more of the same from the show. For me it took quite a few more episodes to get it again, the bridge episodes, when the demon fox chakra emerged to protect sasuke and Zabusa’s last moments. But I was young and had more time to wait for such moments. Also, I was not introduced to the fast paced story telling style in anime. I had only seen Inuyasha before Naruto. I don’t think we should hype Shippuden so much, as the pacing issues will still be there, but not to og Naruto level. It’s better because of the deeper stories and character arcs and better animation. Naruto has a huge fandom and it’s will be so hard to keep every gek viewers happy. I can understand some comments hating Carter’s comments on our favourite show, something thats very close to our heart. But I appreciate the boys being real with their opinions and I believe that’s the success of this channel.

Natsu1401

Also what’s the best way to keep up with any other info for the guys’ channel, like what their schedule is for the week, what shows they’re currently watching, etc? Or do they just have their Patreon and YouTube accounts?

LordoftheCast13

yeah sure buddy

HNadR

akshualy, GOT only has 73 episodes, not a billion so you're wrong.

GBuckets

I wish you guys did more episodes per week. Maybe 6 a week? 8 would be awesome but since you guys pumping so much GOT it doesn't seem there is much room left for Naruto. The world and its rules becomes explained more as you go along Carter, so don't worry. If everything was explained immediately all the mystery and the potential surprise factor would be gone. The chakra system is also explained more in depth too, but the thing is, there were several scenes so far where the chakra system was being explained and you guys were not paying attention and were talking over it multiple different times. Those were mostly just the basics tho. There will be a lot more varied and more complex applications of it in future episodes.

Mysterious Figure

Can we get an update on code geass pks

Ethanielmori

Oh ok yah that makes sense! Especially for Shippuden in terms of spoiler avoidance 😅 Thank you for the info!

LordoftheCast13

Oh My Gosh! After getting continuously bombarded with a billion GOT episodes for an entire week, we finally got a sprinkle of Naruto 😯

HNadR

They usually watch and rank all the openings together after finishing a series. They also wait to help avoid if any spoilers are shown

Vixen

Shippuden 😭😩

Sanam N

Why aren’t they watching the episodes in batches of 50? Wouldn’t that be better?

Liam

Wished they would've actually finished the arc (episode 80) before giving their thoughts up to this point, but overall agree and can't really blame them for having the opinions they have thus far. Feel all issues/critiques are justified, and am super excited and optimistic to see how their opinions change as the show progresses, since they already are getting more emotionally attached to characters, identifying higher highs, and recognizing how each arc continues to get better than the one before. I feel like that's honestly one of Naruto's greatest strengths as a show, is how it builds upon itself, and how well the foundation is laid during OG Naruto, that the show starts to skyrocket, and never really feels like it's taking a step backwards. Instead, it almost feels like each arc continues to get better and better and better imo. Also, kinda new to following Studio Gek, but do they just not watch Openings or Outros period? Because I've noticed they haven't at all for their Naruto reactions?

LordoftheCast13

Hopefully we getting more Naruto episodes tomorrow🙉

T.Yaseen

I love Naruto but some of y’all gotta let them express their own opinions. Just because they don’t share the same thoughts doesn’t mean they’re actively trying to hate on the show😭 You have to remember that they started off with new gen animes. Despite these issues, thank you for reacting and appreciate your honestly!

gigi

I could name drop a few I think are better 😏. But I feel like it just comes down to the individual bc there are so many good characters/back stories

Brig Andrus

It’s hard getting people into older animes that are slower paced with less quality animation bc at the time of making the target audience was much younger, meaning more drawn out explanations :/ Hopefully they will watch thru shippuden!

victoria t

I’m not going to spend over a year watching something trying to have a bad time 😂 I am a critical viewer of shows and film. Moreso than your average person

Studio Geck

I agree on the power system not being explained well rn but that will come along the way for sure the more u keep watching , on the orochimaru thing i don’t think he can fly away or turn into anything while he’s soul r getting ripped out by that caliber of the jutsu by the 3rd hokake u could see the shock on his face orochimaru knows all the jutsus but he didn’t recognize that

CPA

35:15 had me dying!!!

giselle 🫧

The way Carter is 100% right..I love Shippuden but OG is a big pile of meh with some really good moments here and there 🙈🫣

Mia Malvik

I think it’s because the bridge arc is the first and when people started naruto they prolly didn’t expect the show to be that dark and it also kinda blends in with goofy scenes really well . The show can hit u with so many emotions that’s y people got attached to it and decides to continue watching also I think u guys binge watching it was a big reason y’all didn’t appreciate the arc that much cuz it was tiring as hell but on gawd this arc is not even top 5 of the whole show considering what’s to come and it’s still hella good tho

CPA

Funny that you mention a shark 👀

Vixen

Yeah I squinted when you said not even top 5 💀. Not top 5 villain I agree with but not top 5 backstory? Crazy talk 😂

Kamui

Like a shark smelling blood

Brig Andrus

Hilarious that we all know 😂

Kamui

Y’all have 53 episodes of og Naruto left if you skip all the filler. And there’s only two eps left of this arc. Glad to see y’all enjoying this show despite the pacing issues

Kamui

He’s locked himself in to watching this whole show lol why would he try to hate a show rather than enjoy it if he’s dedicating this much time to watching it? He’ll come around, they’re still in og Naruto and have a long way to go

Kamui

Don't expect explanations like Nen, Naruto does explain eventually a lot of stuff but it doesn't try as hard as HxH does with Nen. Nonetheless i still prefer Chakra and Jutsus as a power system cause it's cool af. Nen is goated though

Matheus Eduardo Jezini

To add, you know when you've finished AoT and you look back knowing everything and it seems completely different? It's something like that. Difference is AoT is well produced, fast paced and it has the mystery as a hook. Naruto lacks those 3 factors which I can see why it's hard to watch nowadays, we're wired different now.

Matheus Eduardo Jezini

I'd just like to say to Carter that the world isn't nearly expanded enough, I can understand feeling a little trapped and misinformed. Naruto unfortunately is adapted in a veeeery slow format and not well directed and animated for 95% of the episodes. What makes up for it is the lore when we get there and the sheer amount of good characters, their stories and the relationship between them. That's why you see Brigg always say something is not even near top 5 of whatever of the show yet, he's completely right. The real problem of Naruto will always be the production, unfortunately is just too poor for such a long and rich journey but it's people's goat anime for a reason.

Matheus Eduardo Jezini

Who’s gonna tell him…

Max Dalton

Bro, I appreciate Naruto being yours and McKay's favorite anime, yall know ball. Carter needs to be converted, get on it!!

Matheus Eduardo Jezini

I really feels like his mind was set even before the start of the show that he will try to like it as least as possible lol and him talking over , looking down not paying attention sometimes missing whole ass dialogues also makes him missed details that maybe could make u appreciate the show even more

CPA

I would never waste this much of my time actively trying to dislike something. I want to love every show we watch because why wouldn’t I? Just more to love. The power system just simply isn’t explained very well. The boys are grown adults. They can hear criticism

Studio Geck

At least Naruto doesn’t have a shit ending

Grady

I wish Carter had a better attitude towards Naruto as a show because I feel like he actively tries to not enjoy it as much as he could have

bondbond53

🥲

McKay Carter

On Crunchyroll the “season” ended on 78 so we just made it a stoping point

McKay Carter

Same bro 😭

McKay Carter

What Carter said about the limits being unknown and thinking anything can happen making him feel lost sounds weird to me because I always thought that was a GOOD thing from a new show to watch. You really want to be set for the entire show right away? And you want to be able to predict it? Sorry but it kinda sounds like you don't want to like it so you're not letting yourself get into it for "fear?" of getting tricked? And saddest part is that you brought the others mood down when they were like OMG WHAT JUST HAPPENED to oh yea it is weird...I appreciate your view cause not everyone will like it but maybe next time let them say their points first. Also for other ppl, not sure hyping shippuden helps with this mindset. Regardless will always look forward to the next drop until the end. P.S I promise this is not coming from a bad place, just pointing out in hopes Carter can enjoy it better somehow.

S0uL YgR

MORE GoT LESS NARUTO!

Poragami

thanks 🫶

krystin-02

ep 81

Enma

I read manga Naruto before watching the anime so I was hooked from the start and it didnt have to take me till ‘Shippuden’ in manga to love Naruto. I guess the pacing and directing of old anime can sometimes be a problem, but for me, the story, the journey and characters of Naruto will always be the most special. Hope we can get more Naruto reaction this week!!

Tomato

@Vixen right? we real protective over our boy 😤

Lydia

I really hope we get more of Naruto this week :( :(

Pati Zvarová

@Lydia He better 😤

Vixen

Guys i don’t watch this but when does the goat shows up? i want to join then

krystin-02

Brig could smell the hate comments coming 💀

Vixen

All fair points made by Carter. I'm pretty sure we've seen Kakashi "die" like 3 times at this point lmao. It's understandable being off-put by the big beasts. I feel the same with mech centered animes where everything else just feels irrelevant. Just hold out for a bit is all I have to say 🙏

Vixen

W

Qhoa

😞

Brig Andrus

33:22 💀🤔

Aden

My favorite episodes is close 😭😭

HaNo0onat

Lmaoooo no

Michaela Igl

Thats not the end of an arc ?

Michaela Igl

Lmaooo he’ll learn soon

Lydia

I also think the other thing to remember with OG naruto is that it was made in the early 2000s, with manga from the 90s, on a weekly basis - it unfortunately suffers a bit from the chunkiness of anime when it was FIRST getting wide success, as before the big 3 blew up in the mid 2000s, anime was almost completely localized to Japan outside of Dragon Ball and Sailor Moon. Of course that doesn't excuse things, but I think it provides some good context for why the start of Naruto is the way it is, and why it improves so so rapidly outside of the bounds of early OG. The show also suffered from being a weekly release - rather than seasons, an episode came out almost every week for over a decade, and unfortunately some manga content and explanations got missed/left out because of that. Overall, I agree on the front that I think you guys will really love the end of og and shippuden, which is where Naruto starts for many, including myself. : )

goblin.bones

The arc ends when studio gek says it ends

Brady

More Naruto and more GoT

maxdemian1006

geks when can we next expect the boys

Jacob Goldsmith

Me too Brigster. I pray this isnt the last episode for the week though sadge

maxdemian1006

please tell me we getting more episodes this week🥲

Jeamberto Rivera

lmao

Lukash

Others have said this as well, but this isn't really the end of the arc - I think some things will feel a bit better after the resolution that you get in the next 2 episodes. ☺️

goblin.bones

🥹

Cookie

Oh my lord

Cookie

How are we counting the arcs? lol

Jeff

The arc I think ends after episode 80

PS

Greattt 🥳🥳

aubrey jane adlawan

Only 1 episode 🙂‍↕️

Juan Avila

They plan on skipping all fillers

Vixen

AHHH IM SO EXCITED FOR THESE EPISODES

aliyah

Just playing ily Carter 🫶

Vixen

Not even a minute in and Carter already hating on Naruto as usual 🤧

Vixen

Let’s go Naruto out again we need more

Brandon Bryant

Please skip fillers

aubrey jane adlawan

Just gettin stuffed with reactions

Ant just watching

Same ❤️❤️

Melizé

DATTEBAYO!!!

Melizé

The arc doesn’t end here? It ends on episode 80

More Naruto Reactions

Gosh I love Naruto 🥹

Brig Andrus

Absolute cinema

Brig Andrus

Got the notification at the doctor…will be coming back to watch this later 😔

Grim Reaper

Third

Marielie 💕

MORE NARTUO LESS GoT!

Grady

LETS GOOO

destroyer z

2nd

Amine Belhoucine

First

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