.House. .Of. .The. .Dragon. 2x6

I am surprised no one has commented on this and feel stupid since I'm watching so long after, but did no one mention that the books aren't "cannon", as in, they aren't told by a narrator, but rather by in verse characters citing events. What in world history books would have been able to speak of Daemon's dreams, if they weren't in his head? The version of Daemon in the books is nothing but the interpratation of his character by those who have written the history books.

Secretly

i can see where you’re coming from but i think the show runners fumbled his character because he’s a lot more predictable. still, i think he is one of the most complex characters in the show.

sushi

Idk I don't hate show daemon's arc. I definitely think he could've spent less time in harrenhal but in the book daemon isn't really doing anything at this time, and I could see this fitting in with the rest of his arc. The visions this season helped us understand exactly why GRRM likes him and see the intricacies of his motivation

Agent September

@kiiturii The problem doesnt lie on the fact that he mistakingly recited the prophecy when Alicent was there, its way before then. If he actually made his mind sooner, didnt long for a son, killed his children and his own wife along the way and ignored Rhaenyras role, he would have named her his heir way sooner, would have been able to teach her how to fight and swing a sword, he wouldnt remarry, and especially not to a Hightower. Lets not ignore the fact that he was blinded by Ottos "advices" and kept him as his Hand for years, while pushing Daemon away, and all while Lyonel was way more trustworthy. Even if he did have to remarry, Laena would have been a better match, to combine the blood of Targaryens and Velaryons, the offer was not bad. Sure Laena was a kid back then, but how is Alicent a better choice, plus Alicent was his "precious" daughters best friend, and marrying her would mean giving the Hightowers more power than they already had. Of course saying "what-if"s now doesnt really matter much anymore, but there could have been a lot of other ways to avoid everything. Its all just butterfly effect, and they all stem from Viserys choices that he made.

Nico

it wasn't his choice to start a war lol.. He was kinda cornered with what decisions to make, he made the best possible ones, then as he's dying, delirious from his milk, he starts reciting the prophecy which leads to a misunderstanding. Not really his fault lol.. And even if he did make bad choices, that's what people do. You can't be perfect in every way, he's still the goat

kiiturii

book Daemon is George RR Martin's favorite character because of his complexity. he's neither bad nor good, and is meant to be more of a grey character. imo they fumbled Daemon in the show.

sushi

Exactly, I’m still waiting to purchase the books and dive in, it’s just more peak on standby for me

Icchi

I also prefer watching before reading. I’m glad I got to experience GOT as a show only. And then I got to experience the books but look deeper into it cuz I had a general idea

Shadow

It’s not taboo at all to read a book after a show/ movie… in fact, if you want to enjoy both to their fullest, it’s better to watch before reading. There’s literally never been a case where reading, the more in depth source, first lead to enjoying the adaptation more. The latter happens 99% of the time.

Him Mori

LET ME COOK

Kite

Map of houses of westeros. Feels super relevant I'll just leave this here https://www.reddit.com/r/HouseOfTheDragon/comments/xjsrep/a_great_detailed_map_of_westeros_for_whoever/

Scinaps

istg if they fumble with my GOAT Daeron the Daring im done with this show

Sweede TW

You have to bear in mind that the book is not actually GRRM giving a detailed account of what happens but rather him presenting a series of accounts by various people of what they claim happened. The distinction is important. It's not all that unreasonable, and in fact I would wager it's something they ran by Martin himself before greenlighting the show, for the show to depart from the books in some places because the same history is being told differently. I don't think this should be a controversial thing either, the point of the book was to mimic historical accounts and how spotty, or even outright unreliable, they can be at times.

LawL

Holy Dragons Mckay! 🐉 😵 BTW just watched this ep again, remember the old man who lost his hand/arm ✋🏻

Ray

it is so nice finally seeing some wlw representation in the ASOIAF adaptations, it makes my heart so happy! like if dragons can exist surely bisexuals can too lol

angela a

thank you geks! we appreciate your dedication to you making this a welcoming community for everyone. that guy was a hateful troll lol we don't tolerate any of that bs

angela a

There’s also Aurane Waters (a Velaryon bastard) who Cersei made Master of Ships in the books because he reminded her of Rhaegar.

Arctic_stark

While she’s thinking things through(or simply being overwhelmed with incompetence) her enemies are making moves. Everytime she loses a son she has to weep for weeks at a time before she can make another decision. Being in her position you don’t get to wallow in your own misfortune. She’s indecisive and appears weak. She doesn’t have the respect of her counsel or Deamon. If I were her I’d start making examples of the men trying to undermine her because she’s a woman.

Gnarlybudz

The condescending tone is strong with this one. (jblakk)

Animeke

Someone may have mentioned this already but since there are over 600 comments I didn’t check. Brigs comment about the Velaryons being cooked and not in GOT isn’t true. In the books the Velayons play a part. George RR Martin said there were too many families already and that’s why they weren’t in the TV show. The Velaryons fought in support of Stannis during the Battle of the Blackwater. They were fighting at the mud gate too. When Stannis confronts Mance Raider with his army, Jon sees the Seahorse banner with Stannis troops. Just to name a couple of mentions

I❤️movies&tvshows

@Treize Cinquante And your homophobic, racist, misogynistic, hyperbolic comments on this, or any other thread are also the lowest rated. GO. AWAY. Literally NO ONE cares about your idiotic bullshit.

Marcusinmilw

@Shadow that person is definitely the chad-gon whoever. The way they write, and their attitude, their "argumentation" is all exactly the same. It's just sad at this point how someone is so willing to spend money to be in this community to just insult random people on the most basic level.

Mysterious Figure

@Treize Cinquante WTF are you on about? You know what? Never mind. NO ONE cares. Go way, troll, and take your ignorance and stupidity with you.

Marcusinmilw

You both are absolutely on point. I've been guilty of some of these things myself and I am doing my level best to dial it back. At the end of the day, it's really not that deep.

Marcusinmilw

You mean the two books that will NEVER be released? I've given up all hope of the final two volumes of the story ever coming out. I'm super disappointed in GRRM for leaving the fans hanging the way he has for so long and for being such a dick about it.

Marcusinmilw

I really hope that he died. I really wouldn't like it if they would change the lore however they want just because they were too afraid to kill him of fr.

vally

Maybe Laenor died off screen which is why Sea Smoke has been "acting up" lately. A few episodes ago Rheanyra said that Sea Smoke has grown restless.

clémence

The real question is where the hell is Laenor?? I’m not sure how it works, do we think he is dead now that his dragon claimed addam? I thought the bond would be broken when the rider died but I could be wrong

Jessica

About High Valyrian and dragons, the best guess from the shows and books so far is that dragons are trained to understand the commands in High Valyrian but it's not like they automatically understand the language. In HotD, it's clearly the responsibility of the dragon keepers to train the dragons in various commands in Valyrian. In the main series, Dany teaches her 3 babies to understand 'dracarys'. Basically they're like dogs, and learn to associate certain words with certain actions by association. There is a LOT that we dont know about dragons and Valyrians, but in his most recent blogpost George RR Martin has promised that we will get a lot more details about dragons and their bonds in the final two books of the ASOIAF series.

Arctic_stark

If we want to really go down the rabbit hole with Alys and Harrenhal, it might still be possible that the Alys we are seeing isn't the Alys that Simon mentioned as treating Lord Tully. It's just strange that we have never seen Alys interact with Simon, even in multiple scenes where they're like 2 feet apart. Also did anyone else get the feeling that the member of the household who was accused of messing up Larys's foot by sorcery was Alys? The Harrenhal scenes are also interesting because sometimes they feel like Daemon's mind is being messed with and he's being made to turn on Rhaenyra, while other times it feels like he's working through his decades-long trauma.

Arctic_stark

Agree with most of what you said, but Daemon has a claim of his own as brother to Viserys. It wouldn't be out of the question for him to say to the realm "you can pick me, famed warrior, or one of these squabbling children". Theres plenty of situations in the history of Westeros where an uncle has tried (sometimes successfully) to further his claim over his nieces and nephews.

Arctic_stark

This season of HOTD is like 20 pages in Fire & Blood. People overblow the book, it's an encyclopedia from unreliable sources with bias and not a full picture on every detail.

Christopher

What do you mean "you people"?

Ser_Nox

This is why hotd>got

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Both spittin

Icchi

well said, totally agree man

Manro

Youre absolutely right. Its a weird mutation of the internet. Binge watching played a part. Cinemasins played a part, twitter and reddit played a part. But mostly its just our new nature as a society to consume instead of experience. Art is meant to be enjoyed and experienced, not just consumed. Yet, now people just nitpick and hyperanalyze. Most peoples favorite shows that they watched prior to this new era would not live up to the scrutiny that modern art has to. Whenever people call something mid it makes me want to ask them what they are currently watching that is better, that they enjoy more because it seems to me that EVERY show, good or bad or mediocre all get the same level of flippant analysis and unchartible pessimism.

jblakk

what a weirdo

Manro

Honestly, if there's something in a show I don't like, I just ignore it. My main goal is to have fun watching stuff. But these comments, man, it's like people are trying to find reasons to hate and be miserable on purpose. I just don't have that kind of energy for anything lmao

Manro

Finally got Treize or however you spell it out of here. He was making racist, sexist, and just all around ignorant comments to people who didn’t agree with him or have the same weird views

Nivek

wait what happened

Manro

It doesn't, that just means they were more inexperienced lol

TheSauceGuy

Ya and there's more room for interpretation. Just correcting since he said the entire show.

Thina

Because the plot isn’t progressing as much as we had hoped.

HRW

Yea it was like 200 but this season does only cover like 50ish pages whereas the average GOT season covered over 700 pages when adapting from the books. Fire & Blood is just so different from the main ASOIAF series

Shadow

Did you read the book..? The beginning of Visery's reign to the end of the dance takes up at least 200 pages.

Thina

thank you! this realm is now a better place

Lydia

Thank Geks! I appreciate the swift response and moderation from you guys. Much love and keep doing ya thing 🤙🏽🤙🏽🤙🏽

Nivek

If you haven't noticed, his comments have ceased and many have been removed. This is because he was beheaded by Ice and banned from the realm

Studio Geck

🤣🤣 aye maybe they will at this point

Caraxes🐐DT

Actually he only said that for GoT! He’s made a few blog posts saying show HotD will tell the truth of the story. The book is told from a fool’s pov and a maester’s, they are both biased and wrong at times. His only qualm with HotD is that they couldn’t show what happened during the time skips and that they use the four legged banner from GoT. He is really passionate about the dragons being two legged 🤣

Anna

Thank the seven

Nivek

He better be. If I see the words “typical woman move” again I’m guna scream lol

Lydia

*show explicitly says how things are* Idiot #infinity- THERES NO WAY IT CAN BE THAT WAY You can’t make this shit up I swear

Nivek

I love how you people try and police their lives when they’re not on camera. Do you even see the things you’re typing, you sound psychotic

Nivek

Lotta clowns these past couple months. But people love to hate watch, let them give their money and unwanted opinions to the Geks.

Nivek

I don't know if someone commented it already, but the guy that Rhaenyra slapped is from the Celtigar house, which is also a Valyrian family. That's why he protests so much before and after the "bonding" try-out, he knows about the magic of the dragon bond with the Targaryans

Frank Francis

People are going to lose it when Larys and Aegon kiss next time they have a conversation

Kwisatz

On his hands and knees to hop on the hate train

Nivek

Fan of The Boys?

Nivek

I think he might be now🫢

Shadow

Yeah dudes behavior is disgusting don’t know why he’s sticking around or not banned at this point

Nivek

For real. @TreizeCinquante has the most vitriolic and bigoted comments ever and he hides it behind a mask of a fake superiority by trying to belittle every single person he encounters that doesn’t agree with him. It’s almost amusing to click on a video just see what thinly veiled dog whistles he can come up with next while simultaneously continuing watch the show and be among the community he clearly despises so much

Nivek

Consistently the worst takes of all time but go off king

Nivek

Please enlighten us on what disorders you are talking about? It’s one thing to give constructive criticism if they were acting bad, but to insinuate that they are ruining a character because of a “disorder” is outrageous. Emma is a very talented, beautiful person, a great actor and is giving adult Rhaenyra’s character justice.

Bambina

if it makes you feel better I think they were the ones Aegon hired.

jblakk

No im saying people online are saying those who didn’t like the episode is solely for the kiss lol wasn’t saying you specifically and no I mean daemon kissing alys in his right mind would be forced no matter the chemistry…you can have chemistry and not kiss lol I mean duh people kiss for less smh that don’t mean it’s not forced in a tv show but yea

Caraxes🐐DT

No one called YOU homophobic lmfao. But anyways agree to disagree on the forced thing. But I do have to add, if Daemon kissed Alys it wouldnt be forced either it would just be fuckin weird and Daemon would truly be confused and in a "drunken" haze if anything lol. That doesnt mean its forced tho. People in the real world kiss for less and with less interaction. But i digress.

jblakk

Addam is older

Cynicwound223

Me being a daemon Stan means what exactly? Me pointing out daemon known to actually being in a relationship with her when laena is a rumor don’t got a damn thing to do with being a daemon stan it’s just the facts and you know damn well what you tried to do with “your precious king” so stop the bs and Yes I know where they going with the rhaenyra and mysaria stuff but tell me wtf do that got to do with a kiss? You like bringing up the book so much there is no hint whatsoever of this ever being a thing not even where the story goes so if I feel the kiss was forced between people that just met a couple days ago then guess what? It feels forced lol I saw it coming as well but that don’t mean I can’t feel that it’s forced all the same 🤣🤣 and yes I know it’s fine but again that don’t mean just because people don’t like the damn episode mean it’s because of a 10 second scene the episode as a whole was the weakest of the season

Caraxes🐐DT

I feel people can have they own opinion lmao saying there has been tension is one thing I can still feel the kiss forced…I can say daemon got tension with Alys but still would feel a kiss would be forced but aye to each their own my point being it don’t mean I’m homophobic or other bs people saying 🤣🤣

Caraxes🐐DT

1. If you admit to being a Daemon stan, why are you pressed? Why take it as an insult? 2. "Clown".. IS an insult. I didnt insult you, but you did me lol. Keep that in mind. "Mid" is an inarticulate phrase that often contradicts the point a person is trying to make...I dont care if you think the episode was mid. Thats not an intelectual analysis, so I didnt say you were wrong or argue you on it. Im only here because a bigot above(Treize) alluded that Rhaenyras sexual orientation was made up by the show for some political gain. I was pushing back against that, because bigotry is bad...simple. I did not reply to you with grace because in the middle of me telling that individual they were wrong you felt the need to champion for Daemon over the more important subject. Ones fandom over a fictional character is less pressing than dogwhistles. I have little patience for those who prioritize the former. Now back to the kiss. I said it once and ill say it again. If you know how the story goes, you know where theyre going with the Rhae x Mysaria stuff, and "Forced" isnt the adjective id use. Many reactors saw it coming, which is a bit of proof that its not forced, maybe you just cant relate to those characters hooking up, WHICH IS FINE.

jblakk

Gotta be one of the worst ways to go out tbh

Shadow

I feel like people who thought the kiss was forced have NOT been paying attention at all this season There has always been a kind of tension between them. My 60 year old mom predicted this episodes ago 🤷‍♀️

Kelsey

Oh you can see im a daemon stan? Good for you but Idk wtf you even try to throw shade for when I ain’t say a damn thing out of line clown .. literally only pointing out we know she was with daemon but not 100% certainty the relationship with laena lol people choose to believe rhaenyra was bi yes but other than more than fond line which don’t mean she liked her in that way there is legit no evidence to prove it so you doing all this is crazy lol btw I also do think she was bisexual in the book and in the show but I still found the episode mid and the kiss forced 🤣

Caraxes🐐DT

You cant even criticize one thing without spewing hate. And im supposed to believe thats its not because you are a bigot? You claim emma d'arcy has a "psychological disorder". You are not hiding it.

Enecca

It sucks that several of those Kingsguard probably died.

TheSauceGuy

Dont worry DaemonStan92, im not taking anything from your precious king. Daemons a great character and Caraxes is the dopest dragon in the mythos. Rhaenyra is likely happy to have had kids with him, but If thats all you took from what I said though, you got bigger problems. The main premise to my point is that Rhaenyras sexual ambiguity isnt random or new, but telephraphed and prediscussed. But just to make it more clear, ill edit it a lil.

jblakk

Saying she was just fond of daemon while being more than fond of Daemon is a bit misleading lmao kinda like you trynna compare the two but it’s said the 3 of them was super close not just the 2 ..idk if you tried to make it sound like that but that’s how I read it so just correcting

Caraxes🐐DT

Its rumored in the book that Rhaenyra has a relationship with Laena. Did you care the same way that they didnt include that or are you just hatefull.

Enecca

The only sad thing is how people like you can be so ignorant and hatefull. What a sad loser you are.

Enecca

What Kelsey said, also the reach and highgarden is in the middle of a civil dispute as well. So their crops distribution has probably disrupted.

jblakk

I wish they would have kept his comments up or ban em entirely. The whole community should either be spared of them, or be able to see the type of person theyre replying to.

jblakk

I swear it’s chad-gon’s new account. Gonna have 2 banned now lol

Shadow

Personally, its still crazy to me that you guys call Viserys a goat. Him in my eyes isnt that great. Hes a good king, he was able to keep the whole realm in peace for decades, and thats amazing, but the choices he made near the end of his life ruined it all, its what started the war between Black and Green. I get the hate on Daemons hallucinations (minus "that" one with his mother), but thats whats important for Daemons character, so he can have a development, him apologizing and consoling Viserys in his hallucination after all these years, him breaking down and crying, shows that he FINALLY understood what Rhaenyra tried to convey to him when they were quarrelling at the start of the season (I hope). So I thank Alys for this, because its her "magic" at work. I dont know if you guys noticed after filming the reaction, but Alicent got an injury on her left hand, the same place she slashed Rhaenyra with a dagger back in season 1 episode 7, where Rhaenyra whispered "Exhausting, isnt it? Hiding beneath the cloak of your own righteousness. But now they see you as you are." Its all coming back to get her now.

Nico

Episode was just mid lol writing bad even the kiss was just random

Caraxes🐐DT

what's even more tragic is that they think their outrage are valid because 'most' of the people agree with them and it will create a false sense of reality which will affect the hotd comuunity if not already.

neko

At least with this show the story is already outlined with some great quotes here and there from Fire and Blood. Seasons 5-8 of GoT ran out of book material.

Derek

Treize, besides you being a bigot. You also dont know as much about the source material as you pretend to. You do know Rhaenyra is alluded to being bi in the books too right? There were hints that besides Daemon, Rhaenyra was fond of Laena Velaryon, and even I quote "more than fond" of her. She spent an insane amount of time with Laena and the descriptions of their relationship was similar to how GRRM was coy about other canonical same-sex relationships. If you know how Fire and Blood ends you can easily tell where theyre going with this Rhaenyra x Mysaria plotline, and none of its some huge departure from a book narrated by unreliable narrators and characters that arent Rhaenyra herself. if you dont believe me, heres a thread from TWO years ago of fans speculating on if theyll touch on Rhaenyras potential sexuality. https://www.reddit.com/r/HouseOfTheDragon/comments/wqfxs0/rhaenyra_targaryen_and_laena_velaryon/

jblakk

If book purists got their wish Daemon wouldnt even be in the season lol and theyd complain about that too. "Why didnt they add what he was doing in the westerlands" Same way people complained about certain characters who arent in season 5 of GoT lol

jblakk

If a "boring" episode has that many negative reviews in a day and also happen to have an LGBT scene in it, it's pretty clear review bombing. Build-up episodes never get this much hate unless something "political" is also in the episode.

jblakk

ok but why then would other GOT/HOTD episodes that involved LGBT sexual representation have higher ratings? it’s almost as if the show was going downhill before they jammed a(nother) sapphic ship down our throats

Treize Cinquante

are you kidding me? I am in favor of Targaryen genocide

Treize Cinquante

:) Racism...Sexism...homophobia. Disdain for a show you CHOOSE to spend time on. Then you pay money to interact with others and pay others to watch a show you obviously hate. You are clearly the bastion of intellect and morals with decision-making like this. Is this the racial supremacy you envisioned? If women are dumb cowards, and people akin to me are beasts, animals, with low IQ, then what does that make you? You got the attention you sought out, and apathy and pity is all that looms on you in return. Was it worth it? Was it fulfilling? Would your bigoted allies see you as a great representation of your race? In YOUR perfect world where people agreed with your worldview, would you be the man on top, or would you simply still be where you are now, sad, angry and alone? I hope you got your moneys worth.

jblakk

it clearly doesnt make sense to the majority. and i guarantee the only people who like these new choices and deviations from the books are young new fans to the franchise

Bellaa

the amount of outrage about two girls kissing baffles me due to the audience passing mutiple blind eyes to the incest.

Holly F

of course you find the lesbian relationship weird but there seems to be a lack of moaning about the continuous amounts of incest

Holly F

@Treize There are at least two well reasoned posts regarding the Mysaria kiss scene, explaining why it makes sense narratively, and from the characters points of view. It has been supported by events happened even in season one if you cared to read my post where I have explained the reasoning. There was another person here (@Selena) that I've seen that has also explained very well why the kiss made sense, but many people, including you, reacting unreasonably because you have missed or forgot the character writing, or you do not have the capacity to understand the complexity behind the relationship between Daemon and Rhaenyra which perfectly explains that kiss. I find it contradictory you are expecting this woman you are insulting in the comments to respond reasonably while you yourself have carried yourself very unreasonably when it comes to that Mysaria kiss scene. And no, it doesnt make Rhaenyra a lesbian. I am the first person who would have hated woke garbage like that. I despise woke crap if its simply done for the SAKE OF IT without any narrative behind it. If someone would expect me to call them "them/they" it'd be disrespecting my own freedom of expression so, NO, my understanding of that scene isn't any cope, or woke mind virus. Go read my earlier comment if you care.

Mysterious Figure

Alyn is the voice actor of Bayek from Assassin's Creed Origins, which is why it may seem familiar.

Omar Abdi

This episode is clearly reviewed bombed. U can just look at the spread of the ratings to tell. It’s not even a debate

Shadow

The fact that this episode and the season as a whole (outside of ep 4) has similar or even worse ratings on imdb than most of season 7 or 8 of GoT is so mind boggling. Like yes it's not perfect, there's definitely flaws, and I do think season 1 was better from a writing standpoint. But with that being said, acting like it's the worst thing ever is insane; it's still pretty good and is still much closer to Seasons 1 - 4 of GoT than it is to season 8

darist

Her suggestion was able to made it to the screen implied that it was approved. It wasn't forced for me because it make sense. Shocking right.

neko

@treize You are blaming the character writing on the actress herself mate. Make it make sense, your emma hate agenda is blinding you. both actresses played a different times of Rhaenyra and I like both versions. They were not supposed to be the same. Milly played a young rhaenyra who was unrestrained, wild and carefree. Emma's version is the grown up rhaenyra who is more matured and restrained but that doesnt mean she turned into a completely different person. She's a mother and a queen now which means the burden and stakes are much more bigger compared to young rhaenyra. She can't afford to be like young rhaenyra but at times she did. Sleeping with strong is a taboo but she still did, being with daemon and wanting to join the war multiple times which could be the demise of team black is an extremely irrational move yet a very rhaenyra move, befitting her unrestrained side. She has inherited Viserys will, experienced the good and bad and grown into a different rhaenyra than before. Looking both versions on the surface level and simplifying them to fit your agenda is easy. Take some time to learn and understand these characters in a deeper level which is a much more rewarding experience. You are hating more on the actress than the writing itself which is a shame and I just can't take you seriously. I'm writing this comment to encourage others to look at the show in different ways.

neko

The entire show from start to finish takes up about 20-30 pages on the book. Just saying lol

Derek

550 comments 😳

McKay Carter

Argue with the wall. You’ve already been reported bye byeee

Lydia

this season so far has been leaning more towards expanding the world of hotd and more build ups, new characters new lore are introduced compared to season 1 where it's more focused on KL.

neko

No one’s reading all that Darlin

Chris Neely

vally

The hate for emma, the actress playing Rhaenyra is so unwarranted. That scene was indeed unscripted but improvised greatly imo and inline with the script. It had enough reasons and contexts to back it up. It's fine if you are not a fan of this season but throwing hate on the actress is just unfair. You are just stupid if you think emma alone have the power to control the scripts and change it on her will without the directors and screenwriters' approval. The internet is as ruthless as ever.

neko

I disagree, they were best friends at most.

neko

That’s because, allegedly, they are brothers. Dreamfyre is the mother of Seasmoke and Dany’s eggs are rumored to have been stolen from one of Dreamfyre’s clutches. So that may explain the resemblance. At least in the books it was hinted in this direction and I just decided for myself that this will be the truth

vally

@Treize I can’t wait until you get banned. I’m sick of seeing your comments. now that you’ve crossed into racism it’s just a matter of time 🥱

Lydia

jeez and a racist. how unsurprising

davosmith1

Facts

Leo

There are consequences to his actions. A character like daemon that does whatever he wants needs to have some sort of pullback or something that is hindering his goals. That’s what makes good character work. I literally said I understand why people don’t like the harrenhall scenes but this is my opinion. Yes they’re stretching it too far now in my opinion but if we just had daemon going crazy every episode that would be boring in my eyes. This season hasn’t been great but this episode was definitely better than last.

Billie

silence bigot don’t you enjoy guzzling pandering slop?

Treize Cinquante

Casting Emma as Rhaenyra will go down as one of the biggest mistakes of the show… Her actress has far less presence as star power as young Rhaenyra, and now Emma’s real world psychological disorders are seeping into the show. Very sad to see how far it’s fallen.

Treize Cinquante

easy to blame review bombers even though HOTD has had SEVERAL episodes with FAR MORE EXPLICIT LGBT scenes. Those episodes were all rated highly. The episode was rated poorly because it SUCKED. Keep pushing the party line comrade

Treize Cinquante

you like what you like!! everyone else can bug off 😌

milfnyra mai

On what am I biased? What the show shows and makes out of Rhaenyra? Your comment makes zero sense and the way your attacking me is childish. But I don’t care enough about you and your opinion, so that’s the last thing that I’ll comment. Stay bothered honey bunny.

vally

No I'm reli not that bothered just annoyed and you're the one that started commenting & hating on my comment, not the other way around. Yes fair enough, we all have our own opinions true. However, not everyone has foolish or biased opinions though, so you nay not be alone but i guarantee there aren't much compared to those who appreciate & or love queen Rhaenyra🖤 To say she's the most boring in that world is ridiculous luv lol

Chantelle Miles

A woman on woman relationship with Rhaenyra was in the books, just not with Mysaria. In the books Rhaenyra and Laena are best friends and it's heavily implied or hinted that they were also lovers.

Kayla

You’re so bothered lol but it’s still my opinion about her and I’m not standing alone The reason why this season is falling of is evident I would’ve loved if they could create an interesting character for her but they just didn’t for ME So call someone else a fool, if you don’t understand that people have different opinions

vally

chill

vally

Nobody said Rhaenyra was innocent fool, u sound ridiculous and petty. What's being said that Rhaenyra is a damn good loving mother who despite losing her own mother at a very young ag & in a traumatic way. Rhaenyra still became a wonderful lobing devoted mother who took so much time to nuture and raise her boys right!! All her kids are kind, sweet respectful & wouldn't be caught dead harming or taking advantage of any woman. Rhaenyra is far from boring and has a huge fan base for a reason. So saying all that is abit daft. Nobody said she's perfect or that you have to like her.

Chantelle Miles

OMG dont u dare involve Rhaenyra, she was a new young mother too, who had her own responsibilities to deal with. She has no blame in it at all. Plus Allicent made it impossible for Rhaenyra to have any kind of sibling relationship with the green kids. Yes Visery was at fault to for neglecting the boys but definitely not for turning them into hateful monsters. That was ALLL ALLICENT AGAIN, sons in that world learn from their mothers mostly, she taught them nothing but hate, resentment, arrogance & to look down on bastards & women in power. Karma is a bitch!! Lol so get ur facts right plz. Sounding so biased & bitter if that's how u truly feel 🤔

Chantelle Miles

I said what I said and I’m standing by it l. Rhaenyra is not innocent and quite frankly she’s pissing me off. And it’s really rare that I am speaking about a character like that but she’s the worst and most boring protagonist in the got franchise imo

vally

Aemond closed the gates to Kings Landing. The people would normally have gotten provisions from the surrounding farmland, but with the gates closed to people coming AND going there is no way to get it The city folk see the food for the dragons being carted in, and it's understandable that they're angry about the lack of food for the common folk

Kelsey

I'm so confused seeing comments like this because HOW can someone not find this episode interesting? Is it my favorite episode? NO. But some of you clearly didn't pay attention

Kelsey

No you got cooked 😹👊🏼

Adam Dark

Aww, somebody got their feewings hurted by my mean ol wordies 😥

Kelsey

Treize...you can be a man. Be a woman. Like the show. Hate the show. Be a dem, be a republican, or be from a different country entirely. You can be a godly man or an atheist. No matter which faction or belief you have it doesn't matter here. Because unless you agree that you're nothing more than scum, your behavior is unbecoming and embarrassing to any decent person. You can articulate an opinion or fact without displaying the behavior that you unfortunately have. You wont change any ones mind or say anything profound if its decorated with the filthy ad hominems, strawmans, and insults you have flung due to your jaded online persona. Im not sayin this because of this one thread, but all the threads you have commented on. Do not try to rebuttal, do not bark back, because no one cares. Instead, be productive and take this time to self-reflect. You're on the internet, speaking anonymously, but youre interacting with humans at the end of the day, and we can see you. I can see you as you are. See yourself, make a change, and be better. I promise it'll feel better than how you currently do.

jblakk

You can't be serious

darist

Gotta love review bombers lol. Not weird at all

Shadow

Addam didn't claim Seasmoke, Seasmoke claimed Addam

JaJa

Seasmoke has been doing some secret recon over that town looking for his boy Addam lmao💀. Out here exposing Coryls' secrets 🤣

JaJa

Yes! TWoW then F&B Vol 2 soon after.... G.R.R.M please 🙏🏻 I wanna read the ending before I die 😭 😫

Ray

I wonder if we watched the same ep.

Secretly

This episode was kinda mid

castles in the air

there’s actually two blockades: 1. At the stepstones where Corlys was fighting in 1x8 2. Blockade in the Gullet

Treize Cinquante

Adam Dark

why doesnt Aemond just burn the blockade with Vhagar? It literally makes no sense

Yeshi Tenpa

this treize person has been at it in the comments spewing misogynistic bullshit for a minute. this tends to happen in the geks HOTD reactions 😝

angela a

So many people just don’t pay attention and/or have major face blindness.

LullaBelle

why are the small folk starving in KL? the port isn't the only way they could get food, and not under siege on all the land sides. maybe I missed something. prob need to rewatch!

Nymeria Stark

@Treize Cinquante you're entirely correct, but a lot of people will die on the dumbest hills for this show. This season has been pretty terrible so far aside from the dragon fight we got.

cutty

Yeah it doesn't make sense, but if we point out every single thing that doesn't make sense in this season we will go crazy, just as an example: Doesn't make sense that people are throwing food at Alicent and Helaena when they're literally STARVING, why would you waste food like that. But again a lot of Patreons don't even care about it, some people really turn off their brains when they turn on the TV, witch is kinda sad tbh, but I'd recommend to you not to waste time pointing things to blind people.

Abogaymer

Lmfao, THERE it is!! 🤣

Kelsey

Trying to understand you, but I don't speak stupid 😔

Kelsey

tell me ONE single food item is imported BY BOAT in mass scale to feed the ONE MILLION people who live in King's Landing. Answer: You can't. OBVIOUSLY King's Landing's food supply is supported by the crownlands, stormlands, and reach OVER ROAD and by wagon. And don't even get me started on the timeline of the blockade. How much time has passed since S1E10? Two months? If that? No city that size would EVER starve that quickly unless the whole city is feasting every night. Condal clearly wanted his Rhaenyra and Team Black hero of the smallfolk plot line and didn't care how he got there. This is what we get for trusting ASOIAF to someone who lets Rhaenyra become lesbian for abortion advocate and queen of the small folk Mysaria.

Treize Cinquante

They do if you don't have a smooth brain

Kelsey

I don't think this show was made with the comprehension of stupid people in mind - I wish you the best of luck if you choose to keep trying to watch and understand!! Good for you 🥰

Kelsey

Yeah one thing that bugs me is that platonic same sex friendships just… no longer exist much on TV any more. Like two women can just be very good friends or have a sister-like relationship. Turns out it happens all the time in real life lol

Sam

The logistics of the naval blockade make NO sense

Treize Cinquante

retard isn’t a slur it’s back in the yeomans lexicon

Treize Cinquante

Right direction? Lmao. His character has been wonderfully built throughout the series because he DID SHIT instead of having flashback dream sequences of stuff we've seen before, it's terrible. I'm seeing a lot of coping and stretching here in the comment section. It's been pretty mid to say the least

Nanashi

Treize: *says a slur* Also Treize when people don't like his ignorant response: "what is this women's/child-like logic?" someone put this boy in the trash where he belongs

Kelsey

the books don’t even provide enough source material for a tv show so of course there will be changes or improvisations by the writers.. & honestly i think the changes they’ve made have been pretty minimal. also y’all love to ignore the fact that alot of what happens or doesn’t happen is up for debate in the books.. & not all of it is 100% fact.. so when we do see changes from the show they almost always happen behind closed doors where there would be obviously no record of it happening. but in the books rhaenyra is implied to be bi so I really don’t think a kiss behind closed doors is out of the scope or some crazy woke plot point.. so far i love the show sure it’s not perfect but it’s definitely not as bad as some of y’all are making it out to be.

Lauren

I don't think people really care - but since I've seen multiple reactors and comments asking who Lord Steffon Darklyn is: He was the Kingsguard who escorted Rhaenyra when she went undercover to speak with Alicent at the temple. On their return to Dragonstone, they were informed that Lord Darklyn (his father) was the man who was beheaded by Sir Criston after he refused to kneel to the Greens

Kelsey

Imo they show Aegon as perfectly competent at riding a dragon, the issue is in tactics, not in riding ability. He blundered into the situation like an idiot, which I feel is fully on brand.

Hunter Snider

Exactly! The whole show series is open to interpretation since the books were never told from first-hand accounts. It's almost like people were just waiting to jump this series because of how the GOT creators kind of fumbled the final season

Kelsey

What a dismissive response. Get out of here with that nonsense. I'm happy to have a friendly debate and discuss differences of opinion but if you're going to respond that way I have nothing further to say

Kelsey

Daemon in the show isn’t going against Rhaenyra. His whole claim of him being king is based off of him being the husband to Rhaenyra’s the queen. It’s just some people are interpreting it wrong, which happens with this show because the show doesn’t exploring tell you things, it’s instead more subtle. He’s not off on his own trying to raise up an army to go against Rhaenyra. He’s raising an army to support his and Rhaenyra’s claims.

Jack

In the books, Alicent and Rhaenyra weren't even best friends. Barely knew each other. The events in the books themselves were open to interpretation as they were not first-hand accounts. If you choose to view A and R as friends from the get-go, then that's your interpretation! Some may view it differently. In the end, does it really matter? just enjoy the show

Kelsey

just compare it to GOT S5 and you see just how mid HOTD is

Treize Cinquante

I don't really get all the complaining I see about this season. I know what's coming (spoiled without my consent 😩) but I still find these comparatively tame episodes entertaining? Not every episode needs to be action-packed for it to be interesting

Kelsey

seasmoke has a type for sure

Isabell

I'm coming back to say. That I still love the show. I see it's getting a lot of hate. 😩 I just didn't like this episode. But I have hope for the next 2 Great reaction

Ana

nah Condal just couldn’t direct it

Treize Cinquante

honestly knowing daemon it could be any number of things lol

Philbo

Seasmoke could sense Addam was Laenors half-brother

Tyler Sick

I feel like daemon doesn’t want Alys to know that whatever she’s trying to do is working. He is too prideful to outright accuse her

Tyler Sick

💯

Shadow

@Kale the blood and cheese criticism I hear a lot. I think this scene might’ve seemed more horrific in the books because of the detail written to paint a picture in your head vs sound effects on a tv show that is not going to actively show a child being decapitated. It’s the only thing they could do to make it more horrible for yall 😩. Also they can’t narrate anything going through Helena’s head on a tv show. we see a mother in shock doing the only thing she can do to protect her other kid. Also having whatever abilities that allowed her to see this coming (saying she was afraid of the rats) , she knew she had no options so there wasn’t gonna be a dramatic fight.

ShanB

Daemon does linger at Harrenhal for a bit in the story in the books but he’s not there forever.

Jack

yes carrie!!! clock it!

milfnyra mai

And also Cannon, that complaint about Daemon acting different from the books is not actually true. Can’t give you details without getting into spoiler territory story is still unfolding and whoever was complaining about that is prematurely wrong. You gotta be careful about getting worked up over wrong information. A lot of commenters do give wrong info. The show is simply creating character development and character arcs. There’s no character arcs necessarily or character development, let alone hardly any characterization period from the story told in the books.

Jack

King’s Landing puts college recruitment photos to shame

Treize Cinquante

You guys shouldn’t pay attention to any differences from the book. The book isn’t a regular book, rather it’s a history book that reads just like a wiki history page or a history book rather than an actually story with a narrative. It’s written from the POV of maesters who were not there (with some information coming from Rhaenyra’s fool who said some outrageous stuff that makes you think he’s an untrustworthy POV). The maesters that wrote the history book weren’t actually in the room with all these characters as this was all going down. So the show has all the characters and all the stuff that happens, they just are creating an actual story narrative and are showing us more of what the story from the book (it’s only like 50-60 pages long) couldn’t show us. So any of the so called changes that are made, a lot of them aren’t actual changes, rather it fits within the logic of being something that happens behind closed doors where outside maester’s and people couldn’t see.

Jack

it’s the dramatics for me. it’s not that deep. rhaenyra deserves happiness & pleasure. cry about it.

milfnyra mai

Viewing their relationship as friendly or sisterly is totally valid as well. That's the beauty in everyone being an individual and viewing shows from different lenses. The same way some viewers emphasize with the Blacks and some with the Greens. No one is necessarily wrong for doing so.

Brittany (Ultraanimegirl4)

Great insight!

Selena

can we please stop with this. alicent and rhaenyra were best friends! sisters! like stop it. this was an actress’s choice to spin the story not cannon book or show wise. just because u think there is tension doesnt mean there actually is or should be!! literally makes me think of the people who try to say Naruto is in love with Sasuke🤣

Bellaa

yeah cause the writers and people making the show want woman on woman. it doesnt happen in the books and doesnt make sense with the og story

Bellaa

I’ve read all his blogs. He has been way more positive recently than he has in years. He talked about his dislike of the sigil and the potential of dragons roaming. When he’s talking about changes he’s referring to the show he has that obviously went off the rails he hasn’t said anything about hotd besdies what I said. He sat in on the scripts of the first 2 seasons, heavily influenced some choices, and got sent and okayed season 3 script. Things such as aegons dream that was never in the book came from grrm himself. He just wrote a huge blog post about dragons spurred on by his love of this season and the episode he had just watched😂 him and Ryan are still good friends

Shadow

show me proof of GRRM signing off on every change and I’ll sell you a mansion in Valyria he barely even engages with this show

Treize Cinquante

I didn't read the book. Just following the characters stories in the show, it makes sense. Rhaenyra idealized Daemon from day one. The two of them have a very complex relationship that is based on them seeing and wanting in one another what they themselves lack. So if she sees something in front of her that she knows Daemon had - Mysaria, it makes sense that in a weird sexual way, she would also want to explore and possess/take/own her for herself. Especially in a moment of weakness while she has been alone and abandoned by Daemon for so long. If you can't see how all that makes sense, believe what you will.

Mysterious Figure

He never did that he’s actually came out as of recent being upset that they wanted too change certain things. Such as the Targaryen dragon on the flag having 4 legs in earlier seasons then them switching it too 2 its on his blog if you wanna read up on it. I think they have hit and miss with certain areas of the show. Such as blood and cheese is brutal in the books and paints a bigger picture in the story of just how bad it got while them aging down alicent too be rhaenyra age works really good in be sympathetic towards both of them. The kiss felt force tho and makes me not have faith in rhaenyra. if someone can just agree with you in every way and then boom your falling for them just because they agree with you ( while everyone else is telling you do other things which I understand her feeling useless because of that) is not something I would look for in a leader she needs too stand 10 toes down on her decision which I felt she was at first which commands respect even if you don’t agree with her.

Kale

He did tho

Shadow

You're coping with the fact that its just woke deviation from the book

Suz

I think Rhaenyra and Alicent had a bit of a hinted romance in the early parts of season 1 when they were young. I also think her being confirmed bisexual now played into her deal with Laenor and her acceptance of them both being able to love who they want to.

Brittany (Ultraanimegirl4)

GRRM did none of that but ok…

Treize Cinquante

“In the books “ yada yada. Get over it. Book readers sure know how to ruin their own experience and everyone else’s. Books are adapted for tv in the way that they are for a reason. Some things are better for tv than they’d be for a book and vice versa. GRRM gave it all the green light this time around so who is anyone else to critique. Tuh. Let the man cook. He is the top chef after all.

ShanB

People forget the past so easily. Even what was said by Rhaenyra in this very episode. She literally spelled it out in this very episode. It is not a coincidence that the last scene we see is her finally taking flight on her dragon despite being told NO for several episodes now. She feels like she doesnt have ANY AGENCY. She is frustrated, cant do anything, stuck in her castle while everything goes to shit. Constantly being treated as someone needing to be helped and being given counsel about every little thing, while no one is giving her the respect a sovereign is due. She took a sword in hand, and in a previous episode was angry saying that - if she were a man she would have spent much of her young years being taught how to use one. So when it comes to the kiss scene with Mysaria, surely Rhaenyra didnt forget that Daemon spent many nights with Mysaria, so in her twisted way, she wanted to also have Mysaria herself so she could in a way simultaneously take something from him, be closer to him, and act in a way like him since she always wanted to be more like him, while also acting like a man... For several episodes now, this is the frustration she has been dealing with - her not being taken seriously simply for being a woman. So in a weird way, she is trying to act more dominantly, more masculinely, more like a man. Taking what she wants. Doing what she wants. Being like Daemon. Taking what is Daemon's. And Mysaria was his. I think in that moment, those thoughts might have chaotically swarmed in her mind mixed with passion and anger and frustration. This is basically the original premise of the show - a woman in a position of power not being taken seriously. We are just seeing the many instances of how it manifests in different circumstances. And no, Rhaenyra ISNT in love with Mysaria. She didn't do it because she is SUDDENLY a lesbian. And no, this is not in fact bad writing in this case, because breadcrumbs for this development have been laid down since season one. Just think harder and remember. Not everything is about woke crap. At least not this time.

Mysterious Figure

@Treize I assure you, one kiss between women doesn't turn the whole story sapphic,,and from my understanding the story has been largely about 'female power' (or the lack thereof) the whole time lol

Saki 🏴‍☠️✨

I agree with Brig, G-Wayne is the goated Green member.

Chris Sanford

It’s because the recast the same actor that played drogon

Shadow

Yea it does Cannon. U right

Shadow

Yep. Makes strategic sense to gather army there to attack

Scinaps

We’re watching the live episode tn 👀

Cannon Andrus

Season 8 has a 4 does it not

Cannon Andrus

GOT*

davosmith1

But it is in the Westerlands, not the Riverlands like they were guessing it might be.

Blackeyedlily

It's right on the border to the Riverlands and House Tully

Scinaps

This is absolutely 1000000% the correct answer. Thank you!!

kraekay

@ZappyZ I don't think there's anything wrong with what the scene depicts, I just think the scene was done incredibly poorly. You can't really complain about people being gay in the world of GoT... And I'm not. I just think the scene feels forced and awkward. Neither of those people seemed like they liked eachother, it didn't even feel like a naturally spontaneous thing. It felt like a DEI moment forced in so they can say the show is progressive. I've never had an issue with the inclusion of people who naturally fit within a story, and GoT is one of the greatest examples of cleverly writing in atypical personalities, sexualities, lifestyles, etc. I have an issue when it's clearly a DEI thing and makes no sense and feels unnatural to the story or the characters.

cutty

At the very beginning of the episode the Lannister soldiers were at the edge of the part of Westeros known as the Westerlands, where House Lannister is the Great House of that region. But the specific place they were at is known as the Golden Tooth, where House Lefford has a Keep. That’s whose sigil you saw. And it was evident that Lord Lefford was not happy that he was going to have to feed all those Lannister soldiers.

Blackeyedlily

GRRM said that Daemon is his favourite Targaryen, not his fav character he ever wrote.

Maria

I figured it out. They keep showing us the dog because he'll be a dragon rider 🐕 🐉

Scinaps

Funny, the only thing they have in common is that they're both queer. I wonder, why don't you just say what you mean?

Maari

The thing you need to keep in mind about the book is that it is written in the style of being a history book. And it is written by an individual who has a specific bias. And he is quoting various sources, who were also recounting the events of what happened through their specific perspective. Plus the only details you really learn about are things that would be known publicly. Things that happened behind the scenes were typically not recorded. I enjoy all of the books that George R.R. Martin has written that take place in the universe of ASOIAF. But I definitely would not recommend Fire & Blood for the first book within this universe that you read. Because of the structure of how it is set up like a history book, it can be pretty dry reading. The primary novels and the short stories that comprise the Knight of the Seven Kingdoms are much more enjoyable stories to read.

Blackeyedlily

How can they change something that's never confirmed? Rhaenyra is never confirmed hetero, you just think hetero is the default sexuality

Carrie

I think it made sense, especially considering the hints that Rhaenyra might have been queer throughout the show, whether that's bi or lesbian- it makes sense for her to be more quickly trusting of Mysaria, who saved her life, and has been showing some interest in her- even if not romantic, then physical. I imagine how difficult it would have been for Rhaenyra, as the heir, to act on any of those emotions or desires when it was not acceptable to be queer, much less he a queer woman of noble birth. Now, she's on her own, she's doubting Daemon's loyalty to her, she's with someone who has also been used by Daemon and she's dropped some hints that she's attracted to her- why not go for it? Desire doesn't have to be fueled by deep and long set emotions or romance.

Maari

I agree neko. Didn’t really see it coming before this episode but it was handled really well and makes sense. Especially when I look back at their scenes now lol

Shadow

@treize one has build up, the other does not

neko

it was more forced than Frenchie and that other dude

Treize Cinquante

I'm with @kim555 up there. The Rhaenyra-Mysaria situation made perfect sense to me. How I interpreted it was Mysaria could have started having feelings for Rhaenyra when Rhaenyra first released her and the feelings gradually developed when Rhaenyra made her an ally and equal plus all the time they spend together. I would say Rhaenyra was more on the respecting/trusting side instead of romantic feelings for Mysaria at first but something in her could have been growing subconsciously when they were working together since then. Rhaenyra was at her most vulnerable state near the end of this episode and when Mysaria brought up her past which is something she might have never told anyone before other than Rhaenyra now, both of them were suddenly on the same wavelength. They were both emotional vulnerable and even though they were only working together for a short while, they shared so much things with each other, pain, weakness, respect, trust, admiration, wins, losses. Human emotions is a tricky thing. That moment just clicks for me naturally because the build up was always there all along. The sexuality doesn't matter in here, the context does. It's nothing new especially for shows like Hotd and Got.

neko

yup i saw it now lol. and i see what they implied she did as well. but im gonna delete this before this is seen by anyone else but thank you Nomaan lol

Philbo

tired of seeing people either lie intentionally or be so uniformed yet still try and weigh in on anything these low-IQ’s should be muted forever

Treize Cinquante

wait did he really hahahahah im a dumbass let me go rewatch this shit

Philbo

Simon Strong literally mentions Alys this episode😭

Nomaan

Sucks that it’s getting 1/10 review bombed by weirdos

Shadow

I also thought that in hindsight, Jace looking back and forth between Rhae & Mysaria during that scene is funny. He was like, now what’s going on here? 🤨

Carrie

Philbo

Condal and Hess think Baela/Rhaena are the same person as Nettles (he just cares who it panders to)

Treize Cinquante

Yea the whole dance of the dragons is just but a section in fire and blood. Parts written by 3 diff people years later. It’s a spin on how history is written in real life

Shadow

jasmin

if someone says something retarded I’ll call it retarded

Treize Cinquante

There were supposed to be 10 episodes in this season. As we have grown used to episodes 9 and 10 being very eventful; the budget for 9 and 10, the rooks rest battle we saw, and dragon cgi pushed 9 and 10 into Season 3. I think a lot of people are wondering what will happen since there are only 2 episodes left. I’m sure 7 and 8 will be great and Season 3 won’t have that slow start some seasons have. So this episode felt more like episode 6 in a 10 episode season.

I❤️movies&tvshows

I think it's been good outside of Daemon being stuck in Luigi's Mansion the entire season. The way the dance of dragons was structured there's lots of big climactic events to where they have to fill in spaces for it to fit in a season structure (i.e saving all the big stuff for endings or beginnings of seasons) but it probably still is slower than necessary

NMP

a bit ridiculous considering how the end of GOT turned out

NMP

I haven't read fire and blood but isn't the whole point that it was written relatively dry/detached, as if it were a history textbook. I mean even if people don't like it there's still room for them to fill in some gaps?

NMP

It’s true. It has been confirmed. RIP Nettles. Along with several other very important characters. That’s why they have to change the order of events.

I❤️movies&tvshows

@bellaa well, I mean, that's what ended up happening lol. the lingering looks/slight awkwardness isn't like normal friends

NMP

it was emma darcy's (rhaenyra) idea about the kiss, initially it would just be some sexual tension between them, but they opted for the kiss, perhaps to show why mysaria continues to be loyal to rhaenyra

vicc

I generally don’t think the show is mid. I do wish it was at least 10 episodes though but I mean dang can we let the show build up😭

LovetheDove

I agree

I❤️movies&tvshows

I would like to know why Armond’s voice is so much higher this season. He didn’t talk in that high pitch voice in Season 1. You think his voice would get lower as he got older. In interviews the actors voice does not sound like that. I wonder if they are using a filter to make him sound more sinister. Only in the scene talking about Daemon being afraid to face him is it his normal voice

I❤️movies&tvshows

i actually love a good build-up, and dont think every episode needs fighting, but this has been a pretty boring season overall, even the well praised 2x4 was not near the peaks GoT had, and the rest of the season was pretty uneventful, season 1 was stronger in my opinion

kivu_king

I originally loved got and the books. I also love this show and season. So to each their own🤗

Shadow

people cannot see two people of the same sex be close without making it sexual or implying they may be interested in each other

Bellaa

They have decided to take what happens in the book and change the order of events. That’s why it seems disjointed now they are preparing to disjoint the whole story. Instead of A, B, C, D,E happening we are about to get C, A, B, E, D

I❤️movies&tvshows

as resident daemon hater, I understand people's frustration with the harrenhall plot but I definitely think this is a step in the right direction for his character. it adds depth for him. also looooooove seeing paddy on my screen again. great actor

Billie

and these merchants somehow took all the food and randomly distributed it causing chaos and near riots? If the merchants found it they would hide it and slowly sell it for insane profits.

Treize Cinquante

Thank you😭 there are so many people in these comments that are praising plots that make no sense to the story! they just dont care for the people who originally loved the books and GOT

Bellaa

HOTD 2x6 is now officially the lowest rated GOT/HOTD episode of the entire universe

Treize Cinquante

Muhammad wallah im at my wits end with you

Billie

Because they changed who is the parents of Danerys dragons. The writers announced it a couple weeks ago. Another thing that makes no sense as it is well established in the books already.

I❤️movies&tvshows

apparently it was Emma d'arcy (rhaenyra's actress) whose idea it was. love emma's acting but for sure can see this not being in the script. they have daemon in common but I feel like it definitely could be a powerful ally ship. but hey show canon and book canon are different so lets see what happens. also the fact that this happened the same episode where mysaria said oh daemon treated me this badly. I still liked this ep more than the last though altho that part was shocking like the geks said

Billie

In the last episode Aemod said the gates could be opened for merchants. The people who were collecting clams were going to sell them so they are merchants. Just like the cart going by full of sheep. The merchants are allowed in and out

I❤️movies&tvshows

This is what we deserve when we let Wattpad-level writers like Hess control the plot. The Dance of the Dragons has been rewritten into a sapphic female power revenge fantasy.

Treize Cinquante

yes i completely agree, whoever is in charge or producing must not like the books and originally story. GOT had to improvise for some things and at a certain point no longer had book material to follow. HOD has the whole story finished and it sshould have been easy to just do the amazing original story. and they are just destroying it

Bellaa

People from Old Valyria can ride dragons not just the Targaryens. It’s the Valyrian blood. House Velaryon has intermarried with House Targaryen before this. This show has changed so much from the books, I wouldn’t be surprised if they change Addam’s book story to justify this.

I❤️movies&tvshows

they never even said that they're tg LOL both teams are horrible but this is hotd/got world lol

Billie

Mysaria was Daemon’s paramour. And time and time again HOTD have shown the parallels of Daemon and Rhaenyra - how they are basically the same person. So it being Mysaria was kind of ironic. Story-wise the kiss makes sense, a bit surprised since I didn't catch the signals lol. But It's not about Rhaenyra being in love with her or vice versa. This episode was about Rhaenyra acting more like a man. For episodes she has complained how her council sees her as just a woman and how she needs to be protected when that's not the case at all. Obviously she's attracted to strong men like Daemon and Harwin and that hasn't changed. mostly becuase they're percieved as strong (which is what she wants). Instead of "wishing to be a man", as Rhaenyra said she exlores her gender and how that clashes with her position as sovereign. We see her use a sword, ride a dragon, using force/violence on lord Celtigar and make out with a girl. Actions that are considered more male, she's exploring the power difference of acting more like a man. And considering that Daemon and Rhaenyra (presumably) will reconcile, I wouldn't be too worried from that perspective...Again I don't think that they have fallen in love and now will live happily ever after. Or maybe Mysaria and Rhaenyra will hold hands and be 2gether forever IDK, I could be reading to much into it. But given the earlier episodes and storyines it leaves me inclined to believe this lol (its struggles with Rhaenyra not being respected because she's female). 100% team black over here, but the greens are doing the better parts of the show right now. I'm gonna need Daemon or Rhaenyra doing something big.

Selena

cannon bachelorette binge when

Billie

How could the citizens of KL reach the shore to get the food boats when Aemond closed the gates?

Treize Cinquante

uk or Usa because finally Usa has been cooking this year (but uk is the classic off) I've just been keeping up through tiktok lol

Billie

I think they mean previous episodes because other than their distrust of each other and slowly becoming allies, romance wasn't hinted at, nor lust.

Billie

What is this women’s/child-like logic???? “If you call someone a name you lose the argument” Please man up and leave your safe space… sorry but it is the only logical reaction to someone claiming pseudo-medieval supply chains were dependent on BOATS to bring food to cities. Anyone who actually types that out and sends it is on the short bus. It’s that simple.

Treize Cinquante

thank you! like i think mysaria and rhaenyra could be so powerful together as two badass woman, but then they make it sexual for what reason? also i dont get people saying they j kissed naturally, bc Rhaenyra was going for the hug and mysaria started kissing up all on her neck(seducing her). idk i just feel like they did it for shock factor and to add a storyline to please certain fans

Bellaa

I think there were signs of rhaenyra and what's-her-face, I mean she's been the only one encouraging her like that and they have been getting increasingly awkward with each other. the scene where she tells her the gift in KL is set up they were kinda awkardly staring/smiling at each other which is why Jace noticed and got all weird and left

NMP

Geks, which actor do you think does the best with their character (excluding Viserys lol)?

TheSauceGuy

Jurassic Park 3 plane dream scene

TheSauceGuy

“i dont want to hear about vows” i wonder how old u are lol. daemon is not a good husband im not denying that, but again things u reference are Sarah Hess and deviations from the books. also in the books he is unfaithful which i also think is wrong but it fits with his character. this scene does not fit with her character. its just the new fans that have emerged over the past few years they want to see certain things happen and they are the only people applauding. but this made no sense im sorry and we can disagree. her having happiness doesnt mean j kissing some woman- who was literally her husbands first fiance when she was a child. just all weird and unnecessary

Bellaa

I'm sure they'll show something soon

TheSauceGuy

ahh thank u for this comment 🖤 omg this actually makes so much sense haha! i’ve never thought about it this way before. it really puts things into perspective & we all know our girl rhaenyra likes to have a good time!!! as she should 😌

milfnyra mai

Two brothers and their names aren't spoken much and they aren't shown much

TheSauceGuy

I'm the opposite lmao, I actually felt this was much better than last episode

TheSauceGuy

I thought you were calling Matt Smith (Daemon) "that smith dude" lol.

TheSauceGuy

I think he doesn't want to think it's magic

TheSauceGuy

Aemond could've suffocated him right there lol, ofc he's afraid.

TheSauceGuy

Wish we could've seen more of Robb's direwolf in action

TheSauceGuy

I mean, without reading comments it'd be harder to get spoiled. I get YT Shorts and Tiktoks sometimes around character changes too.

TheSauceGuy

mai, i 100% agree with you. nothing really astute to add lol but thinking about it, it kinda reminded me of a tiktok i saw where this girl was texting her friend and she was like, “i wanna love men in a gay way and women in a lesbian way” and her friend was like “haha or do you just want to be treated equally” 😂😂 like even if you don’t buy into rhae being bi, i could definitely see how the prospect of lesbian sex would be enticing for someone who has felt belittled by the men around her her whole life. the opportunity to be seen as equal (at least physically) was makin my girl horny asf

alexis ♡︎

actually im saying a part of the show is bad, not saying they cant enjoy it. but to say this happened bc of a lack of intimacy is ludicrous.

Bellaa

Mommy blackwood

TheSauceGuy

Things don't even have to be better or worse, it's just when things challenge your previous point of view, it's easy to feel that way.

TheSauceGuy

im not referring to nudity, im talking about changing a character’s sexuality and an unnecessary kissing scene that isnt true to the plit

Bellaa

After TWoW PLEAAAAAAASSE

TheSauceGuy

There is no protagonist imo

TheSauceGuy

TG d riders are craaaazy. They literally showed them eating moldy food last episode. Idk how you expect no backlash while showing off your wealth by throwing parties and inviting prostitutes and then strolling a wagon full of goats right in front of them

Amna 🍉

Cheese's dog

TheSauceGuy

They have to pay for a war though lol. Also, they aren't COMPLETELY out of food, hence all of the fish.

TheSauceGuy

U lose the argument on default when u gotta resort to calling others slurs and names. Completely unprovoked. Debate without toxicity is possible

Shadow

There will not be 8 seasons lol. I'd say 5 is around max and 6 would be really pushing it unless they covered post war significantly

TheSauceGuy

It’s just a very recognizable tune for the fanbase

Chris Button

I think using this blank period of time for him the books to help him grow from the rogue prince/second son is a great way to spend time with him. And will only further serve future events

Shadow

The castle in the beginning is the Golden Tooth in the Westerlands, belonging to house Lefford, bannermen to the Lannisters. It guards the only decent pass from the Westerlands to the Riverlands. Jason Lannister hasn't even made it out of his own territory yet and is already taking a break. The Golden Tooth is barely mentioned in GOT but Robb managed to find a secret path around it allowing him to invade the Westerlands without assaulting the castle.

Arjan Rijvers

no offense but you are retarded no food is being brought BY BOAT to King’s Landing to feed the small folk. MAYBE some choice items for foreign lands. But the meat and grain would be OVER LAND 100/100 times. Any other idea is just plain wrong.

Treize Cinquante

They haven’t even read the books they’re thoughts on the matter shouldn’t be taken so seriously lol

Chris Button

Seasmoke said: WHY ARE YOU RUNNING? WHY ARE YOU RUNNING?

Amna 🍉

The only people that don’t like it are the non book readers that think it messes with the canon it’s insane. Daemon is literally at harrenhall for months in the books with no telling what he was up to they had to fill that time with something.

Chris Button

Adams identity has been heavily implied in the show, hope they explain his heritage well next episode

Arjan Rijvers

may be a reach but why does seasmoke look like drogon

nymeria

Before railroads, nearly all transport, especially bulk goods would be by water. Which is one of the reasons cities grew on rivers and coasts. Rome couldn't be efficiently fed by the farms of Italy but it was fed by the farms of Egypt. Roads do help but can't compete with ships. And the riverlands and the Vale are hostile to the greens so it would just be the reach and the stormlands exporting by road.

Arjan Rijvers

when I'm in a mewing competition and my opponents are Jace and Aemond

NMP

Always so loud.

Abogaymer

one thing I 100% hate in the show is that they made Rhaenyra seem like a friendless loser? she was always surrounded by handmaidens and was called "the realms delight". It just doesn't make sense to me that Rhaenyra has one friend/ex-friend Alicient when she was absolutely adored.

Amna 🍉

@Cannon Andrus Listen, I like supporting you guys, but watching tiktoks/ lore/ comparison vids is spoiler territory. I've read the book so I'm not trying to avoid them but you guys should. I'm not trying to threaten you guys with a measly $5, but as someone who watches and pays for reactions, I hate to see reactors have a lesser experience due to careless social media posts. I know there are others who feel the same. My comment was made to encourage your unspoiled experience, that's all. @Brig Andrus ^ This is a paragraph

Ser_Nox

i'm still waiting for alysanne blackwood to show up

Amna 🍉

GOT didn't even have an intimacy coordinator, let's not talk about the mess GOT was when it came to nudity and sex scenes.

Amna 🍉

Adam valaryion (idk how to spell the last names let’s be fr) but he’s corlys’s bastard son lol

Kale

the way TG loves to forget the rape part lol

Amna 🍉

I HAVE MISSED OTTO SO MUCH I need him to come back and read aemond for filth this time

Billie

seasmoke said if you aint black, you better step back!

Billie

alicent is least likeable when she's with criston, but I love her character sm. so complex and interesting. I love how she has so many dynamics with so many different characters (her children, rhaenyra, larys , criston, her brother). I loved seeing that be explored more, and from next episode's preview it seems that more of her struggles are gonna be fleshed out more. I feel like her constantly going under the water is alluding to something, im not sure. (not a book reader I don't knowwwwwwwwww(

Billie

Sir Otto Hightower, how we miss your presence. A true Lannister 😂

Jigga Man

is this good or bad because I love me a scottish acccent (not Irish mckay!!!)

Billie

@Brig Andrus That comment was a response to the guy talking about the red wedding. I haven't watched your GoT reactions.

Ser_Nox

I actually hated young rhaenyra, she was a brat. but I also don't like what they're doing to her character....this is our protagonist like hello

Billie

Bella people can't have complex female friendships and dynamics without insinuating something else. I love rhaenicent because of how deep their care for each other was, like sisters. their girlhood was so precious in season one. God forbid we have women showing that complexity without them being romantic

Billie

I loved it as well

Billie

After watching Alicent get belittled by every other man in her life, it was sweet to see a genuine, heartfelt conversation between her and Gwayne. One was the “favorite” but caged. The other was abandoned but free. They have a strained relationship, but they were able to connect on an empathetic level — with Alicent offering words of sympathy, and Gwayne offering words of reassurance. My heart aches for them. I hope this isn’t the last time we see them interact.

rosa_gris

How does their kiss change your perspective on whats going on? What message is being said in that moment about our society and their own? I hope you have actual answers and not something entirely reactionary lol

Zess

One of Corlys' bastards, so he's got Valareon blood.. but from what we know Valareons are not dragon riders/tamers even though they came from Valyria.

Jigga Man

Oh no spoilers from me, Sir 🫡

Ray

@Kale really? 🤣 whose he? just spill it..

morena

the book is full of biases and misinformation. the narrative is written by three different authors of that time who “witnessed” these events.

Vooum

I hate to be that guy but bro has been in like every single episode this season before seasmoke went to him 😭😭

Kale

Watching this show after reading the book is a form of torture😭not ready at all

Nomaan

i heavily disagree. daemon hasn’t been a good husband whatsoever. he literally choked her & hasn’t shown her any love or respect. i don’t wanna hear about vows lmao such a weird thing to be upset about considering what daemon has done to her. i’m not saying rhaenyra & mysaria in love at all but there is a connection there. mostly lust, i’d assume. it was natural to me so that’s your opinion, i respect it. rhaenyra deserves to have some happiness because her husband sure isn’t contributing. i think you’re being a bit dramatic.

milfnyra mai

vibes

Treize Cinquante

Anyone else think this shows episodes feel disjointed? Every episode feels like it starts with a time skip.

Treize Cinquante

Hope they’re not just teasing us.. I need to see someone get shredded by a lion mid sword fight

Tyler Sick

GOT would never? Did we watch the same show that had loads of unnecessary nudity and sex in the first 4-5 seasons?

Nomaan

I’m wasn’t saying yall hiding that you’re spoiled it was more so that TikTok is just terrible when it comes to that🫡

Shadow

Uh yes he is kind lol

Bean

Cos she isn’t a useless crap mother like Alicent?😭

Nomaan

Bro begging them not to enjoy the show

Shadow

I cant take it when people say alicent and rhaenyra had something brewing bc no they did not😭 just two girl bestfriends i don’t understand how people actually believe this

Bellaa

Can someone explain about the dragon Seasmoke just suddenly found a rider, hence also chosen by the dragon. Whose the guy, is he a Targaryen too (bastard maybe)? Also, the Rhaenyra and Mysaria kissing scene was.. wow! 🤣

morena

fans do not allow same sex friendships or platonic relationships anymore. not only fans but a lot of writers across the entertainment industry push what they like in their own communities, not what is actually good for a story

Bellaa

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bondbond53

I mean I know that lol but it’s just the way she is acting when it comes to him that’s bothering me but idk. I kinda wish she just took her own initiative and flew over there herself to see what was happening rather than making assumptions and sending someone that I doubt is going to help lol

Philbo

okay first of all no to everything u said. it literally happened so quick and their connection is not deep at all. rhaenyra is showing no strength or loyalty to her marriage. breaking ur vows is dishonorable in these circumstances. also it was pointless and just catering to a certain kind of audience. it also wasnt natural for them to kiss?! i don’t understand this point i am sorry, mysaria started kissing up all on her neck getting her flustered and then they kissed. gonna have some major consequences with the majority of fans

Bellaa

Fr

Brig Andrus

@cannon same brotha.

Brig Andrus

mommy won’t let him play war

Treize Cinquante

The show skips over the actual heavy lifting. No pact of ice and fire just a lame agreement for 2,000 soldiers (inconsequential) They skip the Vale And the twins are boring and weak not to mention just a bad scene.

Treize Cinquante

Definitely makes sense! I just feel like it could’ve been hinted at a tiny bit more in the show. That being said I’m totally fine with it!

Brig Andrus

Who’s gonna end up on top?👀 (plz don’t spoil I don’t rly wanna know)

Brig Andrus

maybe he cant stand how bad the show is 🙈

Bellaa

They were definitely on the same wavelength

Brig Andrus

please dont fall into the trap of being convinced this is a good addition to the story. its not and its ruining her character for me and seemingly a lot of others

Bellaa

Dude fr just give us a time skip

Brig Andrus

He just needs the patch update

Brig Andrus

i fully agree, and only certain fans are happy with the decision. GOT would never do something so pointless

Bellaa

Haha I knowww I was just trolling. I want to see him ride out on his dragon to battle 😈

Brig Andrus

Me too

Cannon Andrus

The reactions are blind, I haven’t been spoiled. I’ve always been upfront when I’m spoiled. If you don’t want to be a patron because I saw some TikTok’s comparing book daemon to what we’ve seen so far that’s your choice brotha

Cannon Andrus

Right?! 🤣

Brig Andrus

W seasmoke

Brig Andrus

Quit yo yappin 🤣. Bro made an innocent slip up

Brig Andrus

YES

Brig Andrus

Right before we found out I believe but yeah it was silly of me

Cannon Andrus

We’ve been GRINDING love island. We’re still behind tho

Cannon Andrus

“Didn’t get that deep” but makes a paragraph comment insinuating stuff😭

Brig Andrus

Which one of us said that he’s the oldest? 🤣

Brig Andrus

Y r 100% shadow, forgot about those plot points 😬

Ray

this show is going downhill fast especially with that last scene bc wtf was that.

Bellaa

nah we’re not gonna blame rhaenyra for how someone else’s kids turned out. thats all on alicent & viserys. she had her own kids to protect & care for because alicent decided to terrorize them for a whole decade, which viserys didn’t bother to put a stop to. keep her out of that.

milfnyra mai

I watched yesterday and will name everything significant I can remember. Aemond is somewhat tyrannical already, Alicent has been removed from the council, Aegon is conscious for the first time since battle (his life is in danger), a Kingsguard dies but almost manages to claim Seasmoke, Addam is chosen by Seasmoke, Rhaenyra causes riot by providing food and encouraging insurrection (nore Kingsguard might have been killed here), Daemon is getting ready to leave Harrenhall and has character development, Daeron is revealed to be different from his brothers, Geayne and Criston are forced to fight a battle they aren't confident in winning, two other dragonseeds are being set up, a wild dragon is revealed to be in the Vale, and other things I don't care to type because this is too long.

TheSauceGuy

Well, it was the plot being bad in addition

TheSauceGuy

ACTION!!!!!!!!!

TheSauceGuy

House of the Mid. 7/10 House of the Dragon continues to slip into mediocrity with another poor episode. We have a LOT of apologists defending the slow pace and painting people who have a problem with it as juvenile or "book lovers". I have no problems with slow pace - True Detective S1 is one of my favorite series. But the scenes still have to be filled with great character development or analysis and good writing (something that team black has been lacking the whole season). Silent Hill hallucinations, scenes entirely of new characters whose names you don't know and the ones you do are barely interesting, the same endless bs conversations in the same rooms again and again... This is just low quality filler, not high quality slow-burn drama. I can't believe they couldn't find a way to develop Daemon outside of those visions, or to setup the smallfolk riots without awkward scenes. Two episodes in a row, and it's starting to be unforgivable. I was fully expecting the resolution of the previous episode to play a big role in this one... But no, apparently that's going to be used in the finale of this stretched out season. The greens continue to be the most interesting characters in the show, and honestly the pillars of the entire thing. The fact that S1 of HotD was so good makes me sad, I know we can have so much more but instead we are stuck with whatever fanfiction or agenda the writers and producers wanna spit in our faces.

Abogaymer

IT'S SO GOODY, but Condal said there's a reason for it

TheSauceGuy

I think Rhaenyra's actress suggested it, but I'm just repeating what I've heard

TheSauceGuy

Well spoken, for a dog

TheSauceGuy

Addam, I choose you!

TheSauceGuy

missed this ep to watch the love island finale 😮‍💨 thank god it was a filler ep

nymeria

@Shay I absolutely get it as a fellow bi woman 🤝 It needed to be said!

Carrie

Shay this is exactly how I feel. So many things planted or foreshadowed

Shadow

Many of my problems are liberties taken because certain things aren't fully elaborated on. Like I think Aegon having a dragon for longer than Aemond and probably riding him frequently would make him at least a competent rider, but he seems the opposite. Maybe it was Sunfyre's inexperience and Aegon being drunk, but I'm hopeful for his character going forward. In the show, the twin fight was amazing imo.

TheSauceGuy

LotR ahh name, but yeah. I like Sunfyre and Vermithor the most I think for names, but they're all cool.

TheSauceGuy

Most dads at this time don't actually play a large role in the raising of their kids. Especially the kids of Kings and high lords/ladies. The first born/heir stays close with the ruler to learn from them (like Jaehaerys did with Prince Aemon, then Baelon after Aemon died) but otherwise it's the mother and castle staff. If people wanna uphold the system and traditional patriarchy that includes the roles assigned to each gender role including women being the primary caregivers.

Shay Kumar

exactly this. i also think that motherhood changed her outlook on things expeditiously. she’s not only the crown but she has children to consider. it’s such a difficult position that she’s in & it’s so fascinating to me, how she’s been able to manage it pretty decently. she’s suffered sooo much loss (her crown, her father, her unborn baby, her second son, she even walked 2 minutes after giving birth while carrying her baby etc.) & she’s still standing strong. weak should not even be associated with rhaenyra in any way. it’s insane to me that people think that. she has her flaws & is far from perfect but she’s a decent person & an incredible mother. that’s what makes her interesting. sorry for that rant, i just needed to get that off my chest lol.

milfnyra mai

Always so loud

Ser_Nox

You realize that this is based off of a real event in history called the Anarchy? Several aspects of GRRM's world are based on real world events as well as political and social narratives.

TheSauceGuy

@PS I mean to me it didn't feel super male gaze influenced. Plus, women like seeing women kiss each other too, I think these comments are a testament to that 😂

Carrie

If it's so boring are you going to watch the next 2 episodes or nah

Shay Kumar

Up until now, he's not been as multidimensional, so I like where it's going

TheSauceGuy

I know you meant it light heartedly! I was half heartedly joking bc I am a bi woman in a relationship with a man so everyone jumps straight to hetero. I still like women even if I'm not with one 😅🙌🏽

Shay Kumar

He doesn't really do much in the book around this time iirc

TheSauceGuy

The Cannibal is too old for Bluetooth pairing

TheSauceGuy

@Shay Oh you're actually so right, she is bi! sorry I didn't mean to imply otherwise. I just had the thought that the lesbians of the world would be stoked lol

Carrie

chill

r stark

Exiled or dead probably

TheSauceGuy

Compared to Aegon and Aemond, yes. Alicent essentially poisoned them with her paranoia. Generational trauma etc... it's all quite predictable imo.

Shay Kumar

And Viserys did NOTHING to stop it! So don’t blame only Alicent for that. Aegon and Aemond are the way the are also because Viserys never cared for them (And Rhaenyra also! She could’ve tried as a older sister to have a better relationship to her younger siblings but she dgaf)

vally

Copium

TheSauceGuy

I personally love the name Morghul. Little Jaehaera's dragon's name 😊

Shay Kumar

One could argue that r*pe is more perverse than two women kissing but…

clémence

This. As someone who enjoys the dialogue they are dropping SO many goddamn Easter eggs and I'm stoked when they come to fruition. It's awesome

Shay Kumar

It's so satisfying to block them once they've revealed themselves. Send these foul beasts into the abyss.

Shay Kumar

Adult Rhaenyra has also said many times she can't do what she wants to do because she's officially the crown, no longer just the heir.

Shay Kumar

Why? They're already setting up Rhaena. They've set it up since s1...

Shay Kumar

I will not stand for the bi erasure 😤😤😤 Rhaenyra is bisexual ✊🏽❤️

Shay Kumar

Stoked to see the new Lord Oscar in the next ep! Let's gooo

Shay Kumar

I totally agree as a fellow book reader.

Shay Kumar

It’s amazing how boring this show is. And why they’ve decided to make all this stuff up rather than sticking with any of the versions in the book is so beyond me. At this point, there may as well not be a book.

Roy Koopa

Saying that Daeron must be the oldest right after finding out he’s sixteen (among other things) is crazy. Bless your hearts lol. Btw the name of that tavern dude who claim to be Daemon and Visery’s bastard brother is Ulf.

clémence

Young Rhaenrya was spoil and thats why she feel powerful. Now adult Rhaenrya is a Mother. She can't do stupid desicions she has children. It's not that hard to understand lmao

Bere Castillo

Exactly, it's so ironic. It's wild to me how people seem to forget that action scenes are how every episode in seasons 7 & 8 went in GoT and how poorly that went.

Tina L

Whaaat? Wym the red wedding video

Bambina

I wouldn’t compare the book and the show to much because while there are truths to them like Addam claiming sea smoke the book was written by an unreliable narrator (I don’t know if this person name is a spoiler, so I won’t say) who claimed to have been there for most of the events and had written it to fit a certain bias. To name one false claim that’s not too much of a spoiler that we already saw last season this person said that when rhaenyra had her stillborn they personally carried the baby to its cremation, but we know that’s not true. I could list more of the false claims, but I don’t want to spoil anything. So, while some of the storylines in the show seems to be merging and being written a little differently the show is showing the actual account. (I’m in an Uber omw to work right now and I get carsick looking at my phone so sorry if this sounds rushed lol)

LovetheDove

Same girl did not like this episode. Only good thing was addam- but then they cut the scene way too fast imo I would have wanted to see him interact more with the dragon, liked the dialogue with Alicent and her brother but weak episode

Jessica

Didn't get that deep lol

Ser_Nox

imagine paying just to hate under each video. CLOWN BEHAVIOUR

Amna 🍉

Did we not see him go to the North? And then report back to Rhaenyra that he secured the north and the vale? And then also last episode secure the twins and the dragon seeds plan?

Nomaan

i’m TB but Aemond actor is killing it and one of my favorite people to see on screen

davosmith1

They said they haven’t seen spoilers for future events?

Nomaan

show is far too feminine that much is obvious

Treize Cinquante

not the way the show presents it

Treize Cinquante

shoulda seen their Red Wedding vid

Treize Cinquante

How is King’s Landing starving from a blockade that doesn’t impact food import? 99% of food coming to KL would be over land.

Treize Cinquante

Bro are u telling other people to get over it…

Shadow

"I sAw A tIKtOk..." C'mon, you guys do reactions for a living... Be professional reactors. Stop entertaining book spoilers! If I feel the reactions aren't blind, I don't want to be a Patron.

Ser_Nox

I think this season is amazing

Ant just watching

Disagree from me - Rhaenyra this seasons probs been my fav version of her so far actually, I appreciate her maturity now and how she tries to think things through more

Saki 🏴‍☠️✨

Everybody made Rhaenyra feel belittled or not important except Mysaria, she always listens to her and gives her legit feedback, empowering words, and wisdom. She even opened up to her about her vulnerabilities and how she sees her as a worthy person as much as a worthy queen. I don't think Rhaenyra recalls anyone that made her feel that way in a long time. After the hug, she probably started realizing that her feelings toward Mysaria aren't just friendly feelings. I wouldn't say it's a romance moment but more of a yearning

Kim555

The book is written like a history book from various sources with barely any dialogue, you don’t get each character’s POVs so you can’t really know what goes on in each character’s head, you don’t know their true feelings, ambitions or what happens behind close doors when there is no "witness". I don’t think you guys should compare the show and the book especially since you have not read the book. Obviously the show will be different because you actually get to see each character’s POVs, if the show was exactly like the book it would be like those WW2 documentaries. Also in my humble opinion, Daemon in Harenhall is a lot more interesting in the show than in the book. Anyways, stop watching TikToks on this, you’ll eventually get spoiled for both HotD and GOT.

clémence

will you guys react to the preview of next episodes that they always post on their youtube? After every episode they upload a little preview of the next episode on youtube

Kim555

Jackson is missed indeed

Kim555

The book is unreliable by nature. It’s based on retellings from unreliable and biased sources.

clémence

I’m sorry but the man who murdered his last wife choking his new one out of anger is not out of character in my eyes. Daemon has always wanted the throne and has always cared for his family but never has he been a good or unselfish person.

ken

Exactly... They have to give opinions mid of the show so they skip over facts.

Muhammad Affan

Brig wants transformers? "a song of Allspark and fire" where instead of whitewalkers its the decepticons coming down from the north.

Zechree

Bro George has been praising the show and the performances lol

ken

No u wrong about Boys raised in kings landing being automatically bad, it was ALL ALLICENT, Daeron is kind since he was raised far from his terrible mother. Allicent has ruined Aegon & Aemond, she filled them with hate and paranoia and then neglected them from her love and care. The maids raised them while Rhaenyra's boys raised at Kings landinh were respectful, sweet, thoughtful and adored their mother regardless of where they're raised. Rhaenyra showed all her kids unconditional love & devotion. Only time we see Jace and Luke in bad light is when they're under the influence of Aegon in 1x6, joining in on HIS prank on Aemond with the pig pink dread.

Chantelle Miles

these are the same guys who didn’t know who Rhaegar was , they do not pay attention

nanbee

daeron is the youngest y’all do. it pay attention huh

nanbee

It was kinda weird/shocking to see Rhae and Mys kissing but i think in the books Rhae was described as being quite 'close' to both Daemon and his wife Laena. Some thought they were a throuple. The show didn't show that but they did kinda hint that there was some intimacy/possible romantic feelings between young Alicent and Rhaenyra. So i guess Bisexual Rhae is a thing.

Kai Harwood

man I just want them to introduce ALYSANNE BLAKCWOOD

Amna 🍉

i feel like people just want action packed episodes while these type of episodes are really important to the story

Amna 🍉

god her accent

nanbee

omg misogyny, you're so edgy and cool

Amna 🍉

the book is not suppose to be unreliable, idk where everyone got that from. If you read the book, it's obvious what's factual and what is intended to be bias opinion. Also, some of the changes in the show simply don't make sense. GRRM has said many times that book canon and show canon are different

Amna 🍉

i disagree. there have been major changes from the book (i don’t agree with all of them but i can’t change it unfortunately) it fits into the story they are trying to portray. we can’t keep using the book when this is clearly different.

milfnyra mai

kind of a play on corlys not claiming him but seasmoke will🥹

davosmith1

book written from pov of maesters it’s not true the show is true true

nanbee

How is that a win , sounds like young male writing put two attractive women in a room and dim the lights and they will start making out.

PST3

thanks for the spoilers

PST3

Seasmoke claiming addam is so funny

krystin-02

Imagine if other people were allowed to make this excuse 'it wasn't cheating, suddenly feel so close to her.......'

PST3

Mid show But everyone in the Geks and community keep glazing and praising it Thinking its anywhere near good writing season 1 was but hey PEAK btw ipad kid take

Brian kelly

I’m also very upset about the last scene. Why is it so hard to portray true and platonic friendship between two person without making it romantic? It sucks so much, they’re destroying so many characters

vally

They’re wasting daemons character

vally

If Daeron was the eldest he would be the king, Cannon...also the brother who claimed Seasmoke is named Addam, Alyn is the bald one.

Mzuka

ruins mysaria whole role they can have a connection and not ruin the fiction that was written

Papa Flaffy

I did a mistake and i have been told enormously about it. Get the fuck over it. I am a human. Secondly when the person reminding me is also going on tiktok to watch book videos which certainly has spoilers as u cant know what is spoiler unless u have watched the video so this person needs to be held accountable.

Muhammad Affan

Aren’t you the one who spoiled GOT season 8?

Nash

i respect that not everyone is a fan of the ending, it did shock me but i genuinely loved it. not just because it’s two women kissing. it goes deeper than that i believe. both rhaenyra & mysaria shared their experiences as women in this world to each other, albeit very different experiences. mysaria being able to trust rhaenyra with something so heavy says a lot. i believe they felt seen by one another. they respect each other. rhaenyra giving her comfort with a hug deepened that connection 10 fold & it led naturally to them kissing. i don’t see that as a negative whatsoever. they both needed that intimacy i think.

milfnyra mai

Ur the person who directly writes spoilers in the comments u weirdo😂 they haven’t seen spoilers on TikTok

Nomaan

the book is written from the perspective of an unreliable narrator. the showrunners have done a good job so far of adding nuance and complexities to the characters who are imo so much less complex in the book

Alex

imo they both belong in the kitchen

Goat-ruto

Please let’s not compare this to the books. It’s an adaptation and they’ll have some differences and tweaks to make it suited for a tv show. Let’s treat them as separate. This is the Daemon that we know from the show

Kim555

Parts yea but not all…we never knew what went on with him during this time in the book tho so this very well could be a possibility in a way

Caraxes🐐DT

book readers are dragging it lol dang story is 45 pages in comparison to the GPT series of 700-1100 pages. it’s no where near as close in detail and almost no dialogue

davosmith1

once you go bla....valeryon you never go back

Goat-ruto

Book Daemon did want the throne, there is just no indication of him challenging Rhaenyra's claim after their marriage. The tension with him and Viserys from season 1 was there, an Heir for a Day all of that...its a fair interpretation.

Mzuka

100% its bluetooth pairing

Goat-ruto

Did they mentioned why jack isn’t anymore in the hotd reactions?

vally

lol atleast with the pacing im no longer worried about them skipping over Joffrey scenes. That kid will be 13 by season 3 lol

jblakk

Now Brig no Jace useless slander here😭 that man has done more for his team than anyone else in the show😭 securing the North, the Vale, the Freys and even suggesting the dragonseeds plan. He’s a diplomat if not a fierce fighter😂

Nomaan

Team black some mega pervs

Goat-ruto

She was powerfull because she was spoilt by her dad which is why this is happening. She is an intensly flawed character.

Muhammad Affan

They were giving so much crap about spoliing and shit and go to tiktok to watch shitty tiktoks full of spoilers about book. The hypocrisy. @Cannon

Muhammad Affan

I unironically think Brig mightve cooked with the bluetooth analogy lol

jblakk

im so done with daemon in harrenhal my god

R

Rhaenyra got that LA white woman privilege where she can be a literal queen and still identify as a homie in jail

Steve

I loved the parallel between alicent and rhaenyra's cuts on their forearms

Laney Tapia

Its insinuated in the book that Rhaenyra and Laena were intimate. But they didn't do that plotline in season 1.

Tanweer Beckett

Well she literally sent one of her counselors to speak to him in person bc he wouldn’t answer her ravens lol

Anna

Bruh why even go to TikTok lmaoooo they have the most braindead takes

Nash

@Cannon especially cause the TikTok algo is so potent and unsettlingly honed.. house of the dragon stuff will bring GOT stuff to your feed. tread carefully my friend. 🫡

JAY

Book Daemons nickname is LITERALLY the rogue prince. ROGUE. Anyone who says hes a staright up good guy is a liar who you shouldnt trust. Yes hes supportive of Rhaenyra in the books. The books also dont have time to flesh out an ARC for him because its more historical than thematic. The show has an arc, so Daemon has to have an arc. Hes clearly going through one right now, learning empathy from these awful dreams showcasing how he used to treat people. Also for the love of the lord of light, never listen to tiktok on educational things people lol. If you fell in love with Daemon because of the show, then trust the show. xD

jblakk

he ride or die (literally) for house Velaryon. 😂

JAY

House of the Dragging

Brady

I’m just saying it’s a dangerous game on TikTok when it comes to spoilers😂

Shadow

i feel like the only things i noticed between and Myserya at the end is when Reny and Jace were talking and then Myserya walked up after Jace stormed off Myserya walked up and stood next to Reny and then in their convo at the end Reny is talking about how she feels like she has no one Myserya responds with "You have me". I also think when Myserya was telling her about no ones seen her equally like Reny has she started liking her.

Brady

the dragon bluetooth connection 😂 the idea that seasmoke was just flying around hearing "pairing.... pairing..... pairing" and then flew over addam and heard "connected" and just locked in and was like "yeah thats my dude" made me lol

JAY

again, i heavily disagree.

milfnyra mai

This season kinda sucks man I can't lie. The dragon scenes are all incredible, but the drama of this show is just so childish and weird. It feels like they're trying to push political and social narratives from our world on to this made up world. It doesn't feel like a sincere telling of a story. The ending seemed so forced and awkward.

cutty

Seasmoke has to be the coolest of the dragon names. It’s so fitting for a dragon of house velaryon.

EdEddandEddy_

L take, shes had little help

Brady

I have always been vocal about when I’m spoiled and I haven’t been 😅

Cannon Andrus

😂😂😂

Cannon Andrus

The lack of physical intimacy for sure

Cannon Andrus

Whew that part made me cry 😭😭

Anna

Carter and Cannon were both cooking at the beginning. Never fear Cannon, I think even though there are gonna be changes show Daemon will come out as great as book Daemon. Matt Smith is a peak actor too so I think we will be happy!!

Anna

YES return of the king Vizzy T edition 😌

Anna

I liked young rhaenyra she had that aura. I don't think this rhaenyra has an aura. It is painful to watch her on screen.

Leo

I know everyone is tired of Daemon’s Harrenhall plot, but this was the first episode that feels like something shifted for him. The scene where he’s mourning with Viserys is beautiful, it feels like he’s at an emotional breaking point. & Matt Smith is SO good

Carrie

you have to take the book with a grain of salt because the characters and the story is told by maesters and other people many years after the events of dance of the dragons, some told with bias, some not, it’s all very confusing what’s real and what’s not

bob the builder

GUYS! Alys is using old gods magic the weirwood tree is right there. the beds are weirwood, she said she was a barn owl like bran is a wolf.

Niffol

books readers are kinda insufferable. george already said that there’s book canon and show canon, so there’s no need to always compare.

Esther

i don’t agree with that. she’s a lot of things but weak is not one of them.

milfnyra mai

You guys don't know about the conflicts between the Dance and Robert's Rebellion, but there were several other civil wars (sort of) called the Blackfyre Rebellions. Histories & Lore could tell you some about them.

TheSauceGuy

Well that becomes clear in seasons 7 and 8. Drogon still has some growth to do.

Tanweer Beckett

Not gonna lie this season is kinda mid… (for GOT standards)

Brett

I'm surprised you guys didn't mention how similar Sea Smoke looks like to Dany's dragons, like exact same shape lol.

TheSauceGuy

@Britney yeah the dialogue between Alicent and her brother was one of the better parts of the episode

Sam

Matt Smith actually said that he loves his character arc. It was on one of the Behind the scenes episode on YouTube.

Naya

Especially with what Alys said about him being a piece on the board she is making him aware that he is a pawn in a much larger game it’s forshadowing the unfortunate decision he must make on the future.

JJ

A lot of redundant scenes imo

Noah

There are always gonna be people who form an idea of what something's "supposed" to be like in their head from the source material and will hate any change but I've gotta say, as someone who's read Fire & Blood, the show does basically everything better. It's just such a better story it's not close lol.

Hunter Snider

That sucks, another week we go

LuvStarburst

I cannot wait to see the man he becomes after this. Very much needed for his character.

Naya

I don’t think we got the romance hint because there wasn’t romantic. It seemed like a spur of the moment thing. To be suddenly feel so close to her and then feel the touch of another human that seems to be caring- that’s just what I think of course. It’s not giving love it’s giving lust !

Britney

Gotta catch em all 🤣

Ray

Me too! Soo much lore in F&B Vol 2! I wouldn't mind having VOL 2 before winds tbh at least one collection will be complete 👀😬🙌🏼

Ray

I literally had my eyes WIDE open and didn’t know what to do with myself. Sure it’s not from the book but omg HOW GOOD WAS THAT. Honestly Rhaenyra deserved that moment, with everything going on. I’m still on the fence about the white worms intentions thought

Britney

The scene with Adam and Seasmoke is like a reverse Pokemon.

Lux Omnia Vincit

💀😭😭

Ray

I’d give a kidney for fire and blood 2 or more dunk and egg

Shadow

I personally was a big fan of dialogue ! I enjoyed the conversation Alicent had with her brother. It felt strange but nice to see her speak to someone who’s idk normal and not trying to use her, as bitter and unfair as she may have been herself

Britney

Alyn of Hull is the one that shaves his head while Adam of Hull is the one with dreads. Hugh The Hammer is the blacksmith and Ulf the White is the bar guy.

TheSauceGuy

I thought that was just the general Lannister theme that played, not the Rains

MacJordanT

If he’s cooking books, 0% chance it’s GOT

MaraReaper

The writers have teased a lot of events without diving deep. Its one of those shows where you want to binge watch the whole series in a week cause you need more info and want more action. Which i guess is a good thing? I have faith in the show runners.

Clegane (GOT Season 1-8 enjoyer)

I hope Aegon gets some sort of comeback. Despite the differences from his book counterpart, I think Aegon's actor does an amazing job.

TheSauceGuy

Daemon has the best character arc so far...sucks he finally realized that all his brother wanted was for him to comfort him when he lost his wife now he's too late because he's gone. He also made it easy for Otto to get in between him and Vizzy T with his shenanigans. I think he is about to honor his brother's wishes and accept that Rhaenyra is the chosen heir.

JJ

no i know.. but i fear for daemon either way. they lost me on daemon in episode 9 of season 1 when he choked rhaenyra. wasnt in the books, didnt really make sense for his character to do that in my opinion. first half of season 1 we see all these nuanced moments of tenderness from daemon, especially when it comes to viserys and rhaenyra. like have him scream at her or throw something and have a fit, but choking her is a reach... plus one of the producers/writers drew a lot of hate when she came out and said she was shocked people liked daemon in the first season because he is not meant to be good whatsoever. she is dead set on making him a villian and only a villian. a lot of the subtle complexity he had early season 1 was credited to matt smiths performance and decisions. the show creators do not like daemon but there is an interview with george rr martin where he says daemon is his favorite targaryen because he is "notorious for my love of gray characters, and one of the grayest characters in the entire history of westeros is daemon targaryen" i just dont think the show is doing him justice and i dont think they will in the end sadly. but we shall see. ok rant over. lol

emma.bean

They deliberately added that scene? There will be any impact on story?

Leo

The only fr disappointment he has actually vocalized is about the 4 legs on the sigil lol. Everything else is just people further trying to speculate on what was said. Grrm hasn’t been this postive in blog posts in years

Shadow

also at this point in the show i think we should all give up on the book comparisons. as a book reader as much as i mourn the stamped out potential even grrm has come out with blogposts about his disappointment with hotd. i think its about time to accept that the show is just... it's own thing separate from the book. too much has changed on the basis of 'the book isn't a totally accurate retelling' that it's been losing core themes and traits from the book while pretending that these every changes are good decisions. itll be much more enjoyable for literally everyone if we just remove the words 'fire and blood' from our vocabulary LOL

aubrey

She is weakest protogonist I have seen in a while

Leo

I'm seeing signs of that on G's blog, hope it's soon 🙏🏻 😬 in winter we must protect ourselves 💙🫡

Ray

Jace saying "my ruler is my mother" vs Aemond's "Domestic pursuit"

Amna 🍉

I feel like some people are forgetting how many moving pieces to the board there are. I know the outcome of the Dance and i feel overwhelmed by the amount of info in each episode. There are clues throughout each episode at events to come.

Clegane (GOT Season 1-8 enjoyer)

the blockade happened because of usurpation so either way you look at it is the green's fault

JJ

Tell that to the homies in jail

GB3

idk.. i just think game of thrones did this sort of pacing better... and maybe its because there were more storylines and places to jump between that were interesting but.. like sure pieces are moving in these episodes but its all like short shots of people arriving at places or just people mentioning a bunch of stuff. that scene of the lannisters arriving at the golden tooth? like ok... they are there but it wasnt very interesting? i just think the time could be better spent or like more dispersed between other things we havent seen. like show me more of the things happening rather than just telling me about them in small council meetings.. again, i dont think the show is bad i just think this season is frustrating a little bit.

emma.bean

I don’t normally like to hate on stuff, but man… this episode felt like a big drag. Like maybe 15 minutes of actual content happened and then just a bunch of filler. Felt Acolyte-esque. Tough since Rook’s Rest was an incredible episode and it was so recent

Sam

and Furiosa

Clegane (GOT Season 1-8 enjoyer)

Same boat

Sam

I don’t think just because you haven’t been with anyone in a while you’ll turn gay but good thing the shows still awesome 🤣

MateoP

The show isnt over after this season? We already have rumors for S4 and with how much content they have to work with they could take it 8 seasons. Daemon has always been a tormented character - there is more to come

Clegane (GOT Season 1-8 enjoyer)

No way. This was a much better episode than last week. That was not only the weakest episode of the season, but of the series thus far.

Marcusinmilw

The winds are blowing🤫

Shadow

In the books, Addam is thought to be Laenor's bastard (Seasmoke was also Laenor's dragon), but even in the books people knew Laenor was gay and suspected Corlys being his actual father. The truth is not known because Fire and Blood is not based off entirely factual truth of the historical events but rather different perspectives put together trying to maybe piece what happened. And in the books the dragon claiming is way different. Jacerys announces a decree that if any "dragon seeds" (people, high or low born with Valyrian blood) can claim dragons that there's great reward for them if they do. Tons of people die trying to claim dragons, it's even called the Sowing of the Seeds or the Red Sowing.

Thina

Buggin - it was the same way with GOT if you watched as it released. Think about how much happened this episode alone - the opening scene is the Lannisters at the golden tooth. Daeron is marching with Ormund Hightower. Addam and Alyn have been confirmed as bastards, Alyn has been elected to go out with corlys and Addam has claimed seasmoke. Grover Tully died and now Oscar is taking over. Alicent and Halena almost died. The Triarchy and the greyjoys were mentioned again.

Clegane (GOT Season 1-8 enjoyer)

Can I request a movie? Mad Max Fury Road.. Please.

Muhammad Affan

Don't give up just yet. I believe Nettles will appear in season 3 along with Daeron.

Marcusinmilw

The Gay Abandon sounds like Laenor lol.

TheSauceGuy

I also think they butchered daemons character and missed a big opportunity to make him one of those morally gray, super complex characters that everyone loved in GOT. bad people with depth and contradiction that you end up loving. Like the Hound or Jamie Lannister. He was this shows one chance at having that and i just dont feel like they handled it very well.

emma.bean

I was one of the ppl expressing concerns about this season early on.. and they were squashed for the most part but after this ep.. I just dont know.. I still love the show, but this season really dragging overall.. idk how i feel tbh. only two eps left feels wrong. like truthfully what even has really happened this season to progress the story. feels like a lot of running in circles with a few major incidents sprinkled in.. like I love scenes of people sitting around tables with fire dialogue but there is maybe too much of it in this season. the pacing just feels... odd. anyone else or am i buggin out??

emma.bean

@shadow FUCKING HOPEFULLY BRO

alexis ♡︎

Has anyone else seen the show Warrior? Cause I can’t help but laugh a little every time I see old Bill O’Hara as the smith in that long ass wig 😂 he pulls it off well tho

Carrie

truuuue. Majority of the people have convinced themselves that the book is totally unreliable when most of them haven't even read the book. GRRM has done a good job writing what is suppose to be factual events and personal bias.

Amna 🍉

IMO weakest episode of the season. Also very strange how Allicent and her daughter were able to to survive that mob.

Jed

literally lol as they casually stroll through the streets with a wagon full of goats for the dragons ahah

Philbo

Hope you're correct Shadow, by the old Gods and the new 🙏🏻😉🙌🏼

Ray

You can't blame the suffering of smallfolks on Rhaenyra's blockade when TG has more than enough money to get food for themselves but refuse to help the smallfolks. They had it coming

Amna 🍉

Ser Steffon did not deserve such a horrible fate lol. I wonder if he'd not dropped his guard, or maybe if he'd brought a sheep for Seasmoke, if he'd have been successful.

TheSauceGuy

Sooooo excited for Daeron..... Also this episode was not a let down besides Daemon tuff

Muhammad Affan

To King Brigg's point 👉🏽 After the Dance, the Targaryens ruled for 150 yrs still. This war is the mid point in the 300 yr Dynasty!

Ray

😂 it was quite the experience, I could hardly believe my eyes

Carrie

Guys HoTD will be 4 seasons! It should span the yrs that the war took place. Excluding S1 the setup.

Ray

Less so than the first 2 but they still sent the script to him to overview for next season. Hes just not sitting in person on the writing process as much (hopefully he’s cooking the books)

Shadow

don't do jaecerys dirty like that, he will cook, just wait!

Amna 🍉

i heard he wasn't involved in next season?

Amna 🍉

Cannon if you truly want to enjoy the show, don’t go on TikTok 😭 Full of spoilers and crybabies complaining about every single thing, and some stuff they say are not true at all, the worse place and app 🚮

Naya

i was pacing around my room 😭

milfnyra mai

They ruined Rheanyra. She was so likable as a child. But now she’s just weak and incapable of making decisions.

Gnarlybudz

Soooo tiny 😍

Ray

Oh yh true! I forgot to write that 😅 my only relief tbh :)

Ray

i don’t really have any feelings towards daemons harrenhall arc but it’s interesting nonetheless. alicents manipulation not working on aemond was really cool to see. he’s definitely a problem lol i’m itching for rhaenyra to become aggressive. idc how i just wanna see it 😭

milfnyra mai

I’d accept it more if he willingly did the hallucinations to conquer them but yea our goat definitely dumb sometimes lol

Caraxes🐐DT

thats why i said "kind of" lol . my goat is still a dumbass lowkey hahah

Philbo

That baby dragon was Stormcloud btw

Shadow

I was just typing fast yall I know who is who

Ana

i think it makes sense for seasmoke to "claim" addam because his previous rider was laenor, and laenor and addam are both corlys' sons! he misses laenor so addam is the next best thing, it's actually quite sweet

sarah

Eh him thinking less of her definitely not a good reason lol idk man

Caraxes🐐DT

Enter DAERON the GOAT (not quiet 😅)

Ray

The Velaryons are still around in the books, they're just not as powerful. There's only a few named characters and the show didn't feel it necessary to show them ig.

TheSauceGuy

At least grrm has been involved with these first 2 season and overlooked next seasons script already🙏🏻 and stuff like aegons dream came from him

Shadow

Thanks

LovetheDove

Yea it’s Addam I have no clue how people mixed them up lol

Caraxes🐐DT

that slap prediction was crazy 🤣

Kite

Younger brother name Addam

Caraxes🐐DT

Addam

Caraxes🐐DT

oh no i agree to not even question her is dumb as hell lol. but if thats the reason then i kind of get why he doesnt

Philbo

Hearing the boys in the beginning gave me flashbacks from the GoT chats back in the day Books vs Show. And if the UNNECESSARY changes were valid. (We know how that ended). I love this show but some changes have worried me. Peak Got was mostly book material! G.R.R.M already showed displeasure with adaptations making changes for the sake of it! Let's see 👀 Fingers crossed 🤞🏻

Ray

She called herself a witch to daemon lol whenever things happen to him she’s right there…not suspecting her is dumb

Caraxes🐐DT

Why are people saying Alan. Isn’t his name Addam?

Marine Piece!!!

yeah i never heard of him speaking bad about his character and he has even elaborated on some of his scenes as well

Philbo

I think it was episode 1 or 2 you can see that seasmoke has been flying over and watching Addam trying to get his attention lol

LovetheDove

Her kissing mysaria didn’t happen in the book sure but they do say rhaenyra,daemon and laena was a thing in the book lol so she very well could been bisexual.

Caraxes🐐DT

I haven't finished the reaction but I agree with you guys that the differences from the book is definitely interfering with my enjoyment of the show (I read Fire and Blood). I still enjoy the show, but some of the changes are kinda annoying me.

Thina

@Ana I mean you can of course have your own grips with this episode but i kinda understand why some of those things happened like: - Aegon is literally in the same condition is father was in damn near (Of course under completely different circumstances lol) but he is in such a fragile condition and he can barely speak so i get it. - Criston is a bitch so each there own lol - the kiss i also didnt care about but i saw someone say something like it shows that her and daemon are literally the same (im awful at explaining but its something like that) - Daemon thinks less of her so thats why he doesnt suspect her.

Philbo

joffrey: i want mother me: yeah, i want your mother too

milfnyra mai

And you know I was really hoping it wasn't true 😢

Ana

You guys shouldn’t think too much about the book lol for this show specifically because it’s written in a way you don’t know what’s true or not lol George himself said the book is unreliable for that very reason and daemon actor never said anything bad about his character compared to the book version especially being sad about it….he loves the character and playing him lol also @Cannon those videos always lie and never tell you the other possibilities that was said to happen in the books smh they only say what they want portrayed or thought to be true so I would avoid them for sure or at least don’t think it’s what’s supposed to happen in the show 100%.

Caraxes🐐DT

HA when they started hugging i was like “perfect now kiss” and then they did 🙏🏾

alexis ♡︎

@Arsheley so much. The whole episode was just bad for me. Only good part was Addam and Seasmoke.

Ana

Daemon is actually pretty dull during the war in the book 😭

Arsheley martin

@Arshley WRONG: https://beebom.com/house-of-the-dragon-is-rhaenyra-bisexual-books/

PST3

It was the best one for me 😭 why didn’t you like it??

Arsheley martin

@Marcusinmilw I was viewing it as the accurate story because that's what we've been told. But now I'm viewing it as it own thing. No relation to the books. Just the same names. Also I have problems with this episode basically on how it was written. Not just changes. Corlys is barely in the show? Aegon is afraid of Aemond like he's not the king. Heleana is an afterthought. Criston hasn't said more than 3 words each episode. And that kiss?? Was not needed. Daemon still in Harrenhal blaming Simon when it's clear it's Alys but he doesn't question her at all? I like the whole season up until this point. This episode was just bad

Ana

man i feel like im gonna have a ton of comments lol Daemon being "immune" the hallucinations could literally just be a lie because daemon didnt tell anyone about them and made it seem like his trip there was perfect lol

Philbo

If you’re talking about Rhaenyra she was bisexual in the book too

Arsheley martin

RIP Nettles character lmao

TheSauceGuy

He's a dull awful character, he is a pathetic Targaryean supremacist, he always talks down on non-Targaryeans. He killed his non-Targaryean first wife. He never shows any love or respect to his half-Targaryean daughters.

PST3

Ana, it's how you should have been viewing it from the beginning.

Marcusinmilw

Who we taking to over here? Lmao

Joe Mama

Same. Zzzzz...

Marcusinmilw

Daaaaaaang! Y'all got this up fast. LFG!!!

Marcusinmilw

the only reason im kinda okay with it is because i heard during this portion of the book, they literally had daemon doing nothing

Philbo

What an enormous W for lesbians everywhere

Carrie

im so done win daemon and harenhal scenes i just fast forward now they are draggin it and for what its going nowhere

lagunasr31

Stop replying to every thing this is not your email.

PST3

@Shadow yeah I didn't have a problem with changes. But we saw the leaks. And none of it is good

Ana

Also Daemon is being influenced by the haunting of harrenhall into wanting the crown. like bro is getting super cooked and there is NO ONE coming to help him, Rhaenyra seems to not give a damn about why isnt responding and is just wanting to assume things. that is how im interpreting things ESPECIALLY after this episode. the only one who seems to cares is jace lol

Philbo

Of course they had to make her one even though she isn't the books. Team Black need to go outside, just hiding in their castle getting freaky.

PST3

I don’t mind them doing it a little. Obviously it is its own thing. Wayyy less than what was done in GOT. To me it’s a mix of book canon and GOT canon.

Shadow

right but some of the dynamic changes between the characters in the show have been sooooo bad. Also, I feel like if you've read the book, it's pretty obvious what's intended to be factual events and what's personal bias.

Amna 🍉

Yeah but writing characters out and giving someone else their storyline changes things drastically. The show is it's own separate thing now. That's how I'm gonna have to view it from now on

Ana

How is saying he died, which happened this episode, a spoiler?

Joe Mama

If the boys seeing stuff on tik tok there’s no way they aren’t getting spoiled lol

Shadow

I feel like Daemon’s storyline is dragging; this is like the 3rd episode with the Luigi’s Mansion scenes and not much else from him. It’s definitely hurting his character

Brady

“I keep seeing the differences between the book and the show on TikTok” just go read the book dude it’s a textbook written with historical accounts. Go read our textbooks are they exactly correct fuck no they aren’t. I’ve read all the books so tired of these new fans that haven’t read the books complaining about changes. Go read the books then complain if you want to just make yourself sound ignorant. Sorry for ranting it’s not just you it’s alot of people but seriously go read the book.

Chris Button

Boo Spoilers.

Ryan Ry

It’s funny how they play “The rains of castamere” at the beginning Lannister march but that song doesn’t exist yet. That song was written about Tywin Lannister who hasn’t been born yet

GB3

A lion on a battlefield is epic af lol

Tyler Sick

It’s really interesting how the book is written and allows for so much interpretation. The show kinda just adds a 4th source lol

Shadow

^This

BreezyBri

RIP Lord Grover. That’s one muppet down ;_;

Joe Mama

before we start this reaction lol. im not sure you guys know this but the books are written by like 3 different maesters and its entirely based on rumors besides the major events. so comparing the show and the book is never a good idea.

Philbo

Seasmoke has a type

Shadow

I feel like that smith dude is another of those lost Targaryens, like a bastard or something (I haven't read the books please don't spoil me)

Kite

As a book reader I have really liked the Daemon at harrenhal. It does feel different then the daemon from the books but we never got those close interpersonal scenes with him anyways so there’s a lot to expand on. I think seeing his character development and the magic is cool

Shadow

I hated this episode. This is the first time I'm losing hope for the show. I can't even watch a reaction to it tonight. I'll be back tomorrow 😢😭

Ana

Seasmoke to Ser Steffon: SIKEEEE

spacejamjam

the entire cast continues to amaze me.. matt smith had me in tears in minutes

alexis ♡︎

Just got off the plane, perfect timing ⏱️😊

Bri-Ana Monique

ALAN

Cannon Andrus

It cooked

Shadow

My favorite episode so far 😭

Arsheley martin

I loveee HOTD

Shadow

Let’s gooo gek

Shadow