.Game. .Of. .Thrones. 6x9

So many fav screens from this episode nothing beats John beating Ramsay repeatedly

Nyamal Solomon

First time I watched it, it got me. Stark banners over the walls are great. But knowing where this goes? With hindsight, feels like the Starks never came home. Doesn’t leave much to enjoy cause everything else is dumb.

Mzuka

Guys. Episodes are vanishing from the collection as soon as they are getting unlocked (6x9 and 6x10) and the new episodes are not getting added to the collection (7x3). This is happening with GOT and also happened with Chernobyl episodes 5. Additionally some of the last episodes from FMAB playlist are missing. (Legacy uncut tier). Please have a look into this.

Shikhar Srivastava

Go take a nap little boy. No need to be a ass for no reason

Joey Zero

He uses people as pawns… he would 100% protect Jon if it meant that he wasn’t finished with Jon

lola

Exactly the logic of the lord of light makes no sense, if he was really defending people they wouldn’t die in the first place

Sean Carroll

i think john caught a big L here. not smart of him at all

parALICEis

Yo chill. There's a lot of life people live and most can't remember everything with perfect clarity.

Gobbo

Yall said, “personally, if that was me, I wouldn’t get hit by an arrow”

Sandi

No jack that wasn’t Carstark it was small Jon Umber. Not surprised you got it wrong since you don’t remember anything apparently.

Osvaldo

literally right when i was thinking who is going to be the first to think about littlefinger. brig immediately says “we need littlefinger!” 🤣

Kymberlee Shakoor-Asadi Preston

The guy Tormund was headbutting wasn't a Karstark, he was an Umber, the one who gave up Rickon to Ramsay. Their castle is the Last Hearth which is the northern most major castle of the North, so naturally they had to deal with the wilding invasions and they have more beef with them then the other northern houses. That's why the writers included this one on one in the battle.

Giamou

Yes good commanders uses tactics and formations but I’m talking about when two vanguards clash this is the outcome pure chaos kill or be killed you cant run or hide strategy out the window arrows coming down horses running around everyone swinging swords pure madness look back at the scene everyone is fighting not thinking about strategy but to survive and if you skilled and lucky they you just might

Renaldo Allard

Finally Ramsay got exactly what he deserved!!

T.Yaseen

Please no more feral comments 🙏🏾

A_Daddy Daichi

what if its meereen or shireen by canon killed me

Eywa

my man looked too good!

A_Daddy Daichi

You are so damn real for this comment 😭😭

Lydia

You'll have to show it to me then. I actually watched the the making of video and the director (Michael whatever) before I found the inside the episode and neither of them mentioned the lord of light from what I saw. It doesn't make sense either. How many times did Beric Dondarrion get killed and brought back? 5 or 6. The lord of light still clearly had a purpose for Beric so why not protect him from death too after the first one too?

Matt Haloostock

Idk I’m pretty sure there was another interview they did where they said that the lord of light “isn’t done with Jon snow yet” and I specifically remember that quote regarding that battle

lola

It absolutely is lol. I just went back and found the video where David Benioff literally says the main reason Jon survives is just luck. It's in the GoT Season 6: Inside the Episode #9 video. Here's the link if you want to see it - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1k0YsrTBEYM

Matt Haloostock

That’s absolutely not it LOL

lola

It's been a while since I've seen the directors talk after this episode, but I thought they said it was just luck that he survived those arrows.

Matt Haloostock

Yes it makes complete sense. Exactly, that's what I mean by internalizing her experiences. She herself barely understands what she is feeling about this trauma, let alone explaining it or overcoming it in days to make fully conscious and rational decisions about war? Shame, distrust, and isolating after the fact is hallmark response. They could have made this point clearer to the audience, but as far as what the character owes anyone else rn? There's a reason victims are given full control over their environment and agency directly after escaping abuse.

Lady Stoneheart (UnCat)

"Trauma doesn't matter" says someone who probably doesn't believe in psychology and hasn't read ASOIAF? GRRMs representations of trauma ARE ASOIAF. The entire point is people can operate subconsciously on a trauma based level, breeding conflict, but do we really need to get into literal Neuroscience?

Lady Stoneheart (UnCat)

Oh I don’t think anyone has mentioned this but Jon not being hit by any arrows was also intentional. Not in the way that he would have “plot armor” but because the lord of light was protecting him since at this point in time he is not yet finished with Jon and his role in what’s to come. At least this is what the producers had explained after the show.

lola

Like what is going onnnnn I missed everything too 😂😂 but like you said I’m glad I did

Lydia

learn to have patience

Bellaa

Literally just got done as well 🤣

Caraxes🐐DT

Ok? He said it would be posted lol the man already gave us the reason it’s slow so calm down

Caraxes🐐DT

“gonna be like 2 hours” doesn’t mean 2 hours on the dot bruh

ian

lol it’s been two hours already

Jarvis O'Kain

It’s literally dropping within an hour lol chill

ian

Just forget about it, it’s not being posted tonight, check back on Monday

Jarvis O'Kain

Blunt has been rolled. Ready for peak

ian

May you fly high on a dragon with daenerys by your side!

Dillon

Thx!

Clegane (GOT Season 1-8 enjoyer)

have a nice trip!!

alexis ♡︎

Respectable pregame

Shadow

Just took mushrooms, im ready

Clegane (GOT Season 1-8 enjoyer)

W EDGE

R

I knew they were just playing around… two hours just passed

Jarvis O'Kain

It's just dawn here. I'm ready for the final épisode 😊😁.

Rhaenys Targaryen-The Queen Who Should Have Been

im not spam refreshing or anything like that..

Dillon

are u serious right meow

R

A girl has no patience😭

Melczech

Deerstealer 😂 love it. Between the fish and the deer, he'll be a happy well-fed dragon. You can spend winter with us, but at least some days I want to spend in MI. I love the snow ❄️

Daenerys Targaryen

I tried SO hard but it was giving Tyrion a Welsh leprechaun voice that did it for me. I'm glad I'm not alone 😅

Lady Stoneheart (UnCat)

Dany I’m in Michigan so hope Rheagal still likes fish🙏🏻 and that’s a pretty far flight so snacks a necessity. And we spending winters with u Actually there’s so many fkn deer (Rheagal aka Deerstealer)

Shadow

Which vid? There's a bit that's kinna spoilery in one of them for something, I'm pretty sure. And I didn't say after 7, it's like after 7x6 or something...

Lady Stoneheart (UnCat)

🔥💚

Rigny la Belle

Just when I get back home from work 😋

Joaquin Caceres

Where exactly in the east coast are you? Wanna make sure I can make a quick stop at a Buc-ee's for some pregame snacks. And then I'll leave Rhaegal with you so you can come visit me as well 😁

Daenerys Targaryen

Perfect

Lady Stoneheart (UnCat)

I say make em wait

Paul Durbin

And now we edge.

Roy Koopa

@Euphemia How do you think us Europeans feel? 😪

vally

Man we needed some of your breakdowns for the others squabbles that have transpired. I once had a dude commit identity theft on me

Shadow

Yea Dany come scoop me. The dragon needs 3 heads

Shadow

East coast besties lose forever with GoT

Euphemia Isobel

I was ready to support my queen. The raven caught me in time tho😂❤️ and we can just get a pastor to stand out in front of the weirwood I’m good with that.

Shadow

Because we are getting hype for the best episode known to mankind baby 6x10

Jada

I'm going to be fast asleep when they upload this!!

Jada

@Shadow ok I'm turning Drogon back around to head east...👀 Sorry, my constant comments are probably getting too much at this point, I'll stop lol.

Daenerys Targaryen

My most loyal vassal😭❤️ Once the battle is won, we will be married within a fortnight. I don't know about you my King but I keep the Old Gods, so we'll have to find a weirwood tree.

Daenerys Targaryen

Somebody tell me it’s April 1st 😑

Caraxes🐐DT

LOL ok, I will call off the banner and my dragons. Thank you my lord Carter. We appreciate you so much.

Daenerys Targaryen

Beeswax has arrived, you may roll E10 - Thanks for waiting. Now let's get to it...

NoneOfYourBeeswax

Bout to pregame it

Shadow

yippee

sha superrr

6x10 is gonna be like 2 hours sorry guys😭

Studio Geck

I’ll start my march west🫡

Shadow

All of us is waiting

Jarvis O'Kain

🔥🔥🔥 I'm about to pull up to Utah with Drogon, Rhaegal, and Viserion, and hover above this party until we get episode 10. Should be about an hour or so flight from Los Angeles. 🔥🔥🔥

Daenerys Targaryen

?? Man are you guys doing the r+l videos? 🥴

Caraxes🐐DT

The r+l=j? You watch that after season 6 not 7

Caraxes🐐DT

https://31.media.tumblr.com/0ede597c549f27cfd8f2b59b120be6e6/tumblr_mv5yxizy8N1qexmsoo2_500.gif

Bellamy Blake

NEOWWWW

leah

2 likes now can we?

Jarvis O'Kain

1 like and we get episode 10

McKay Carter

13 hundred comments goes hard

Jacob Goldsmith

Waiting for episode 10

Roan Gomez

McKay, we need you to come in clutch for us since our boy Carter is distracted! Lol

Daenerys Targaryen

playing light of the seven on repeat till i get episode 10

nymeria

One thing about GoT, it’ll get the people talking but yeah how we got here is insane lol

A_Daddy Daichi

In the comments, I believe, Carter said his sister has a birthday party, but they will release episode 10 later on today.

Jada

Again I don’t think they will today

Jarvis O'Kain

You’ré my Rhaenys. I’m marrying you for love, not duty 😂

Daenerys Targaryen

Pretty please gives us episode 10🥺🥺🥹

Jada

My ears ahhhh it was on full blast too

Jada

Lol Dany when I saw the first comment on the marriage pact I felt like my queen had casted me off. But you’re right. You’re the Conqueror(with teats). You get your consorts😂

Shadow

The whole f'ing chat for ep10 https://youtu.be/TmjGh6gAf1Q?si=o61gVivXZGILpdpe

Paul Durbin

Ariana, what are you doing hereeee

Bri-Ana Monique

I would love the be able to do the audio books instead having to sit and reread but any mispronunciations just wreck it for me. Like instant turn off

Shadow

I feel you lol I can’t handle this no more

Jarvis O'Kain

Facts Dany. I just got so tired of half the comment section being him replying unprovoked negatively to everyone. I’m sure as we got into later seasons he has more valid stuff but he is just to annoying for me💀 I got better stuff to do (and trying to be a better person) and I like reading everyone’s comments - just gotta be respectful. Wish I could just block myself from seeing all Sean related convos and forget about it

Shadow

Earlier 1 or 2 times I purposely tried to trigger you. I don't hate you I wanted fun. Now your hate is too much. People taking it personally. So, supporting you from few days.

Leo

My day only has 7 mins left in it so he better be right

Will Zene

James

WHY ARE YOU EDGING US?!?

Armaghan Dawar

Apparently it was a legacy actor, the Pyromancer from the series, but no one seemed to have given him any indications. They just let him go ham on the project and I am simultaneously crying laughing at the result. "PE-TIRE" and Targaryan pronounced differently every time was bringing me to life 🤣 then killing me softly 😭 with Tyrion as a leprechaun 😳

Lady Stoneheart (UnCat)

😂

Lady Stoneheart (UnCat)

Oh

Paul Durbin

For the love of God plz give it to us!

Jada

Damn you figured me out. I just love hating so much, I paid for two accounts 😆

Paul Durbin

Oh no

Paul Durbin

Carter said it'd be up in a few hours... a few hours ago, but it's his sister's bday today. So prob sometime today.

Paul Durbin

Give us 10!!!!

McKay Carter

Where is episode 10 boys we know you’ve seen it💀 drop it

Funkystar

Omg yes!!! Recently I’ve been wanting to re-read the books and so I thought it would be fun to try the audio books but it’s awfullll

Meri Gjelaj

All would be revealed! Anyone listened to the audio books? I couldn't stomach the mispronounciations and ableist accents.

Lady Stoneheart (UnCat)

Don’t forget about the plot twist that Paul is actually Sean’s alt account, despite it being after the fall off it was still a great moment !!

Will Zene

@Charissa that would be insane

Timmy Turner

Rickon could've used some tips from Daemon.

حمد

1215/1215 comment 💀

Lady Stoneheart (UnCat)

I only ever see "12 hrs ago" posted so no reason to break trad

Lady Stoneheart (UnCat)

But AFTER s7 ep?

Lady Stoneheart (UnCat)

Supposedly there will be LF POV chapters

Lady Stoneheart (UnCat)

YEA! Happy birthday lil sis and also it would be awesome to get an upload with R+L = J and the game of thrones musical together. Both are 10 minute YouTube videos

Agent September 🏴‍☠️

1264 comments is insane

Agent September 🏴‍☠️

Cannon is me when it comes to Sansa 😭

Bri-Ana Monique

Not you tryna rizz somebody up by asking for a date in the Patreon comments 😂😂 I’m living for this

Bri-Ana Monique

She didn’t give you brain damage Sean, you just couldn’t match her Rizz and it’s okay 😂🫶🏽

Bri-Ana Monique

You're welcome

Jada

Aww stop it! That’s all youu, i got your back queen 🙌🏽✨

Bri-Ana Monique

Many thanks Paul💛💛

Jada

Thank you lad

Jada

Ikr just saw the number 👀 what's going on??

Ray

He definitely will never finish ASOIAF, but I think there is a non-zero chance TWOW comes out.

Timmy Turner

Bri-Ana you’re an icon🧎🏻‍♀️

Meri Gjelaj

I missed the war, tried to get caught up but the minute I saw Meri I just knew she was a baddie, so I’m on her side 🥰😂

Bri-Ana Monique

Gosh what is going on in this comment section😭 people are too chronically online😂

Nomaan

I can never decide if I believe in GRRM or just accept that he'll never finish it. Really changes from day to day.

vally

I know girl we gotta spread some positivity 🥹

Jessica

Why/how are there almost 1300 comments

Brady

Oh yes i remember that haha 😂 I know what picture you’re talking about, the sun makes it look lighter but my hair is also lighter than what my current picture makes it look lol But thank you so much you’re so kind ❤️ ❤️

Jessica

Lmfao

Caraxes🐐DT

The comment section hasn't been this bad since Jack said a minor spoiler before it happened and the chat went in on him. It's so bad rn too much toxicity going on

Jada

W

Timmy Turner

Oh I remember, it was about who won an Emmy. And I said something about somebody's performance that contain a spoiler, and you told me to delete my comment so we won't spoil the boys. Something like that lol

Jada

But to give a serious advice, just block him. I wish too that he wouldn't be so pushy and its kind of annoying even to block him, because he's commenting so fucking much that it throws my comment section from time to time of and I can't really follow the discussion but its honestly so much better without him. Some people get their energy from hating and trolling and it's honestly not worth it. He obviously has nothing better to do on a Saturday.

vally

i already blocked He Who Must Not Be Named but honestly imma have to block the other one too LMAOO. to the pits you both go <3

kimwa

I can't recall lol, but it was a spoiler so I had to delete my comment than you deleted yours. But I wanted to say I like your hair, it was lighter in your other profile picture- it's super cute girly❤️

Jada

If it flounders it's not her fault, she's working with very little. If it succeeds though it's all due to her. So she wins either way.

Timmy Turner

Hopefully Moira can add depth to the story the way she did for the Green Gables books

Bellamy Blake

@Octavia To add to that though, there are rather mediocre books that got amazing adaptations (Godfather), so there's hope lol

Timmy Turner

Vally come on

Meri Gjelaj

What’s this enemies to lovers arc nonsense in the comments. I just want a 6x10 or haikyuu drop pls.

vally

You guys need to react to the two R+L=j videos as well Carter…one is showing scenes from the show and the other is a mix between the books and the show details.

Caraxes🐐DT

@Octavia Wow that's kinda disappointing that Fourth Wing is getting an adaptation when so many other good fantasy authors never got one. Taste is subjective of course but for me it's a terrible book. When I think of great fantasy I think of works like Lord of the Rings, Malazan, ASOIAF, First Law, Name of the Wind, Farseer, occasionally Sanderson (he doesn't have great prose but at least his worlds are interesting and the characters are good). Maybe even Harry Potter tbh though been a while since I read it. Fourth Wing is just really shallow in all departments. It has interesting ideas (disabled girl needing to survive a deadly exam, for example), but never quite employs them well. Some aspects of the world are not thought through (i.e. soldiers and well-bodied youth are a limited resource in a time of war, but the country is fine with killing well-bodied contestants in a deadly exam as long as a couple pass). Most of the characterization feels shallow and there is a lot (A LOT) of petty teen romance, which is some people's cup of tea, for me it can get grating after a point. Also it has my biggest pet peeve in stories, when the protagonist falls in love with a toxic and abusive person. I think it is a dangerous precedent to be romanticized and yet it is, and by popular authors too (i.e. Colleen Hoover). Anyway maybe the adaptation will be good, and you should read it before forming an opinion, for me though it is terrible and shallow fantasy. I think many other series/authors deserve an adaptation before it. Also I think there is a sequel, I never read it, apparently even the fans of the first think it's a step down.

Timmy Turner

Oh no Timmy, Fourth Wing isn’t good?! One of my fav writers Moira Walley Becket (Breaking Bad Emmy winner) is adapting that book and I know nothing about it.

Bellamy Blake

No that would be Sean

Meri Gjelaj

Happy happy birthday to her 🧚🏼‍♀️🥳

Anna

I’m not the one commenting 500 times lol

Timmy Turner

Yes it will be immaculate when the book releases in the year 2138 Also will probably get more Varys/LF stuff, they were key schemers in the early seasons and have kinda fallen off (or atleast, their schemes are less nuanced now).

ssj4rit

Oh I really don’t think so

Meri Gjelaj

Yes I’m okay.

Timmy Turner

@Paul if someone finds someone else annoying, they will block them because they can. You can tailor your experience on a platform however you want to.

A_Daddy Daichi

Timmy? Are you okay? Like I’m genuinely asking. If that’s what you make of all this than that is deeply concerning lol

Meri Gjelaj

Happy birthday to her!!!!!! I hope she has an amazing day✨missing the girls’ little cameos ngl

Bellamy Blake

One theory is in TWOW the Battle of the Bastards will involve Stannis way more than it did in the show (i.e. not at all). If the book ever comes out I’d love to see that version.

Timmy Turner

Sorry guys it’s my sisters birthday so the drop won’t be till later😭

Studio Geck

What about the r+l=j videos Carter?? It’s two of them on YouTube you should react to.

Caraxes🐐DT

It’s like one of those bad fantasy romance plots (like Fourth Wing)

Timmy Turner

I’ve had this for a while but I have changed it before… but it was probably me, I haven’t seen another Jessica on here. What did we talk about?

Jessica

Jessica did you change your profile picture? I can't remember if this is the same Jessica I had an interaction with previously.

Jada

I give the Sean vs Meri anime arc a 6.5/10. The clash of wills was interesting at first but around halfway through it was clear the writers were running out of ideas. It became repetitive and bloated and many great side characters were ignored. The cinematography was not great given the arc was all text, but some of the dialogue was powerful and really made me think.

ssj4rit

I'd stan some off screen moments

Lady Stoneheart (UnCat)

He’s still always sided with you one way or another

Meri Gjelaj

Can't wait!!! We are hype

Jada

That’s fair😭😭

Meri Gjelaj

I'm actually not bothered, it's just starting to be like one of those scenes in a show or movie where it seems like the camera is supposed to be panning away from two characters but we are still just there with them and their palpable tension & chemistry 🤷🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️😅

Lady Stoneheart (UnCat)

preach

ssj4rit

Paul I just think the people have had enough

Meri Gjelaj

I literally fell asleep and then woke up and thought we had landed but we haven't even taken off hahaha

Paul Durbin

Bro these comments 😭😭😭😭😭 anyway can’t wait for ep 10

Nash

👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 exactly, Jon would NOT have accepted LFs help. He is too proud, noble, stubborn, just like ya'll are saying Sansa is supposedly. Sansa is painfully aware that Jon would refust to work with the man who put Sansa in her position, which is noble, but not how you play the game. Did ya'll forget Jon's character? He'd have killed LF in seconds if he knew he had summoned Sansa.

Lady Stoneheart (UnCat)

Still on the tarmac 🙄

Paul Durbin

When I land, I'm gonna comb through every single comment and make a spreadsheet for the people. I'm an accountant and a data whore.

Paul Durbin

You both are extra af

ssj4rit

yes but no thank u

emma.bean

You're incapable without his prompt?

Paul Durbin

I rewatched the season 6 bloopers to reset after these comments lol (the 2 min video). Looking forward to 6x10!!!

Nymeria Stark

Over 1000 comments is actually insane.

Amna 🍉

No bc he's annoying💀 paul does me blocking someone really bother you that much pookie😔

Amna 🍉

I’m sorry Charissa😔

Meri Gjelaj

These are the moments when I wish there was dming on here. Get a room. And I'm literally the only one wishing it won't be today because I'll have to wait, the later the better.

Lady Stoneheart (UnCat)

Paul aren’t you supposed to be taking a nap

Meri Gjelaj

People's behavior has more to do with themselves than it does you. If you feel the need to block, that has less to do with how bothersome our existence is, and more to do with your inability to cope. Hope you are able to find peace.

Paul Durbin

Sean can you shut up so that I can shut up, the people in here don’t need to keep suffering, they’ve suffered enough🙏🏻

Meri Gjelaj

Wrong again!! You really can’t come up with something better? Lameeee

Meri Gjelaj

Oh so now the goal posts have been moved huh. He’s been supportive in this reaction comments section. In previous ones he has also had issues with me on par with a lot of people

Sean Carroll

uhhhhh might just join the others and block the two of you… the fact that the comment section is probably 90% more tolerable and enjoyable by blocking just TWO people, out of the many that comment, should tell you something about your approach…. Let’s test it out for 6x10 lol

emma.bean

Wrongfully called me a coward thinking I deleted my own comments. Your insult is therefore rendered invalid

Sean Carroll

Since Meri rejected me (thank god) are you single Emma

Sean Carroll

I promise you as a former quiet fat boy, we quiet boys don’t have rizz

Sean Carroll

HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA

Sean Carroll

With a majority of Leo’s comments, while he may of disagreed in some of them, he has also positively endorsed your comments. Just go back and read them, it’s not that hard lol

Meri Gjelaj

Thanks Dianna, appreciate the compliment

Sean Carroll

Emma you’re absolutely right. But if he keeps yapping I have to yap back😔

Meri Gjelaj

It doesn’t take much to give you brain damage Sean🙏🏻

Meri Gjelaj

She's way out of your league.

Dani

Leo: can you confirm that you have not always been on my side and have made multiple comments in combat to mine

Sean Carroll

exchange numbers or what’s app or something. some separate channel where you two can continue to go back and forth without overtaking these comments 😭 i share carters sentiment… you battled it out, some of it was fun i guess, lol but let’s be done with it now. would hate for it to become this much of a thing under every remaining episode.

emma.bean

It’s typically the quiet ones with the most rizz🤷🏻‍♀️

Meri Gjelaj

Heyy!!! I called you a coward first!! Pick a different insult be creative

Meri Gjelaj

I have brain damage from some of your comments

Sean Carroll

Deflecting again. At this point you are a coward through and through

Sean Carroll

McKay wished he had my rizz

Sean Carroll

I cannot believe Carter has been deleting some of my comments I feel betrayed😔

Meri Gjelaj

My eyes are on McKay🤭

Meri Gjelaj

I think it’s the opposite buddy, you are the one that clearly cannot stand me, I’ve just been having fun💃🏻🕺🏻

Meri Gjelaj

I’d support this for the lore but not for our Meri 😂 she doesn’t deserve that

Bellamy Blake

Anyone else think Meri and I should go on a date and bury the hatchet? I think despite how much she can’t stand me I’d still be able to rizz her up?

Sean Carroll

Emma: if you couldn’t handle this comment section just you wait until seasons 7 and 8 Personally….. I’m just getting started 💪

Sean Carroll

You have yet to call me out and it actually make sense🙏🏻 but it’s okay Sean, being delusional must be difficult to live with

Meri Gjelaj

Don’t listen to her Paul, she has done absolutely nothing of the sort, just calls me triggered for calling her out

Sean Carroll

This is just the beginning Emma. Sorry, but it's just downhill from here. I personally don't really have too much of an issue with seasons 1-6 (obviously very poor writing once they ran out of ASOIAF material) but s7 was the beginning of the end for me. Still some redeeming qualities but then s8 hits and there's practically nothing to praise.

Paul Durbin

Paul, I have already explained my reasonings and counter argued against Sean’s takes severallllllll times throughout this comment section. Feel free to scroll🧚🏻‍♀️

Meri Gjelaj

Sean when someone else disagrees with him: 😤

Meri Gjelaj

Sean why he doesn’t like what someone else has to say: 😩

Meri Gjelaj

Sean when he doesn’t understand something: 😢

Meri Gjelaj

What is Sean wrong about? I'd love to hear an actual rebuttal.

Paul Durbin

Bless

Euphemia Isobel

yessss. so ready to be cleansed of this cursed comment section and blessed by the light of the seven 🙂‍↕️

emma.bean

Umm okay. Sean says what he thinks and then everyone goes, "nuh uh, you're just a hater, quit being annoying. Stop it!"

Paul Durbin

So, it's almost 10pm here in my country and I've got work tomorrow so pleeaase drop it in an hour that way I could watch it before bed lol. Plus I just watched Trap and it was horrendous so I need something to make me forget cuz like that cannot be the last thing I watch before bed!

Dani

I care so little about the 100 I would literally never tune in.

Paul Durbin

🙏🏻🔥💕

JAY

It'll be out in a few hours. I got that insider knowledge.

Paul Durbin

Say what you really want to say Paul don’t be shy☺️

Meri Gjelaj

It'll be out in a few hours. I got that insider knowledge.

Paul Durbin

Yes he has?

Meri Gjelaj

It'll be out in a few hours. I got that insider knowledge.

Paul Durbin

Why would you delete any of my comments smh

Meri Gjelaj

Sean when he’s wrong: 😡

Meri Gjelaj

Haha. "Debates" is an interesting word to use. I'm jumping on a plane rn. Takin a fat nap and I'll be ready 👌

Paul Durbin

Yessss! Thank you Carter ❤️

Daenerys Targaryen

Sean vs Meri was a better battle then battle of the bastards… change my mind Although I did absolutely slaughter her

Sean Carroll

Noo there’s no way!🤣

Amber S

CARTER WHY ME TF?????

Meri Gjelaj

The wait is torture!!😫😂😭

Amber S

😂😂😂 I deleted some of both of yours. This battle has been legendary but let’s put it to rest

Studio Geck

No he hasnt

Sean Carroll

A good battle indeed

Meri Gjelaj

I haven’t deleted a single comment, don’t know what happened

Sean Carroll

Alright guys it was a good battle. May the debates end here😂 6x10 dropping in a few hours

Studio Geck

I didn’t actually think u guys would split 6x9 & 6x10 up for us 🥺 and I still have some hope it’ll come today… buuuut if you really aren’t gonna drop it til next week just let us know 🥲🙏🏻

JAY

Sure buddy🙏🏻

Meri Gjelaj

I’m aware, I’m not talking about the memes lol

Meri Gjelaj

It’s a meme for fun, also it’s showing my stoicism in the heat of the comments regardless. It’s a good depiction of the people I have to deal with on patreon

Sean Carroll

What tides? Leo has always been on your side lol

Meri Gjelaj

Thanks Leo, seems like the tides are turning on some of my haters seeing the funny side

Sean Carroll

Omg i have a feeling it won’t come out until Monday

Jarvis O'Kain

Sean don’t be a coward don’t delete your comments LOL

Meri Gjelaj

The memes are made for comedic purposes, not meant to be taken seriously

Sean Carroll

Sean after he receives the same amount of hate that he spews: 😧

Meri Gjelaj

hope you all enjyed the memes, they were all made in good fun

Sean Carroll

https://imgflip.com/i/920j9t

Sean Carroll

Meri Gjelaj

AoT is on Hulu both sub and dub

Paul Durbin

lol what it would not be boring

A_Daddy Daichi

https://imgflip.com/i/920iu3

Sean Carroll

Oh man it's by far my number 1 series ahead of AoT and Breaking Bad. Think Saving Private Ryan but 10 hours long and 99% a true story.

Paul Durbin

I’m convinced they’re not dropping 6x10 because they want the comments to continue LOL

Meri Gjelaj

https://imgflip.com/i/920igx

Sean Carroll

How tf does Jon get better? He's basically made of cardboard for the rest of the show.

Paul Durbin

Sean I’ve already countered your argument several times in this comment section and you’ve already responded to those🧚🏻‍♀️ idk how many times I need to say this to her it through your very very very very very thick skull🧚🏻‍♀️ I will be responding again don’t you worry, I know you’d prefer it if I didn’t but I will nonetheless

Meri Gjelaj

Please mid day 6x10 drop for your east coast besties 🙋🏼‍♀️

Euphemia Isobel

If you like fighting in the comments I need you on my The 100 agenda. People go into it hate watching and laughing together and then end up arguing for an hour after each episode 😏

Bellamy Blake

https://imgflip.com/gif/920i5m

Sean Carroll

And why is that Amna? Because your incapable of listening to other people's opinions if they don't align with yours?

Paul Durbin

And you’re supposedly NOT triggered?🧚🏻‍♀️🫶🏻💫

Meri Gjelaj

Sean you have go to be kidding me LMFAOOOOOOOOO

Meri Gjelaj

Don't blame sean guys. He is just sharing his opinion(ofcourse he is little annoying) but without him comment section would be so boring. We guys can give logical explanation to him. He is not abusing anyone. so, you guys also stop abusing him.

Leo

https://imgflip.com/i/920hss

Sean Carroll

https://imgflip.com/i/920hoh

Sean Carroll

https://imgflip.com/i/920hen

Sean Carroll

https://imgflip.com/i/920h1v

Sean Carroll

Hahahaha

Paul Durbin

"Definitely a misogynist" that's rich

Paul Durbin

Sean Carroll

Actually thank you guys for breaking patreon because I’m finally getting notifications 🤞🏾

A_Daddy Daichi

that’s my man

A_Daddy Daichi

Brig - shaggydog McKay - nymeria Carter - summer & lady Cannon - ghost Jack - grey wind

Lady Stoneheart (UnCat)

I don’t want anything from you other than a logical counterpoint to my 3 main issues about this episode. When you decide to stop being a coward (that’s 8 times you’ve dodged it now) I’ll be waiting to read your comment. I already know you aren’t going to make a comment in rebuttal because you don’t know how to counter my point in any way that can be considered

Sean Carroll

Harassing people and consistently complaining about others positive reviews in comments is toxic 🤠

༒ dianna ༒

LMAO nah u so based for that. Putting respect behind the Daichi pfp.

༒ dianna ༒

Bro I meant fatipapi not meri😭 go read that thread and the first comment fatipapi made not meri my friend… let’s end this madness

Jessica

Me quoting a character that I don’t like doesn’t make anything in anyway consequentially worse for me I don’t like Ramsay (as a person) but can still quote his famous line about “happy endings” Where’s the logic in your comment Meri

Sean Carroll

They gotta

Lady Stoneheart (UnCat)

one can wish lol

A_Daddy Daichi

I’m not making up anything Octavia. Sansa caused 1000s of deaths simply for not telling Jon something she should have told him. She deserves no praise

Sean Carroll

Sean I said I’ll respond and I will. Is there anything you would like me to provide you with in the meantime while you wait?

Meri Gjelaj

People who have a negative opinion are all of a sudden toxic now and deserve a banning? I’ve seen it all

Sean Carroll

This is madness.. may the lord of light be with us all

Jessica

Jessica: I’ve just re-read fatipapis comment and saw that Meri replied saying that Jon probably told Sansa about the dog comment. The rest of the thread is just Meri saying 1. I’ve struck a nerve. 2. You people aren’t thinking critically. What has this proven about her replying to any of my 3 main issues at hand? You example of Meri replying to me is the worst example in this thread, she hasn’t said anything of meaning at all in that thread.

Sean Carroll

Sean you’re not allowed to quote Lyanna…you literally said you don’t like her?? LMFAOOO you’re making this worse for yourself buddy🧚🏻‍♀️

Meri Gjelaj

And just because that’s basic internet shit does that make it ok Maari? Look I don’t care if people tell me all the most horrible things to do to myself, at this point I expect it and haven’t backed down regardless. People shouldn’t get mad at me then for coming back at them with the same energy, that is hypocritical.

Sean Carroll

FIENDING PEAK HYPE CHAOS

Lady Stoneheart (UnCat)

no chance tbh

Jacob Goldsmith

It will come back once toxic people get muted/banned.

༒ dianna ༒

When you said you wanted to get to 1000 I should have known you meant to be the driver

Lady Stoneheart (UnCat)

Jon wouldn’t have accepted Littlefingers help anyways. All the context clues are there in his convo with Sansa in 6x10. What part of Jon questioning Sansa’s trust in Littlefinger don’t you understand? Use actual canon from the show not just shit you are making up because you’re mad at the story *you didn’t give Robb shit for sacrificing 2000 men in his little strategy🤭 so it’s different if it’s a direct intention? Verses Sansa who doesn’t know what the hell she’s doing

Bellamy Blake

Brig is Carter and cannons cousin

Sean Carroll

3 hours since I made this comment Meri. I’m still waiting

Sean Carroll

Let’s all reset for the next post guys… where’s the positivity my friends 🥹

Jessica

Never said I was proud of it, just making an observation

Sean Carroll

I almost commented when it was 666 comments but then didn't want to ruin the vibe of impending doom

Lady Stoneheart (UnCat)

That's all you've been told? Light work. No reaction. That's basic internet shit.

Maari

Old Naan was also going on about Bran being a child of only Summer, only knowing of summer stories and conditions ... implying he needed to understand more of the harsh realities, like of what Winter brings ... and the long nights of WWs.

Lady Stoneheart (UnCat)

Hahaha, zeke is a great character. I can handle 100 angry and emotional people

Sean Carroll

People are not mad at her for not being able to provide battle strategy. She didn’t tell Jon that she had an entire army on speed dial and therefore caused the deaths of thousands of men simply for keeping a secret. She deserves no praise for coming in at the end and claiming the win And Octavia given what I’ve said the hate on Sansa from multiple people like me in the comments is not “just hating for no reason” And we have all given rob shit for being a fool in season 2 and 3 which eventually lead to the demise of him and his people.

Sean Carroll

Tbh all I see happening is she hesitated on getting help from a questionable man, she looked for options to do it herself and when that wasn’t enough after the conversation she had with Jon she resorted to accept his help bc not doing so might’ve cost them the battle, their home and their lives. It is that simple. She also didn’t tell Jon bc she thinks that Ramsey has the upper hand cus Jon is too honorable and easy to read Imo.

༒ dianna ༒

Ppl love a reason to hate Sansa and the more vague the writing gets the more room for interpretation. So everything will automatically be her fault because she’s not cool enough to be given grace. They get all worked up over things and state things as fact when the show isn’t even trying to present that. At what point is the actual show telling us that Sansa is a bad person because she supposedly intentionally sacrificed all those northern men? (cause Robb never did the same anyway😉) the show is never implying this! It is always implying that trusting Littlefinger was the big question. Is Jon in the next episode like “wow, you are responsible for all those deaths Sansa because you had to march in at the end and look cool!” ? No, he’s like “wow so you really trust Littlefinger?” She apologizes, this is clearly meant as a flawed moment of weakness for her but not painting her as a villain ppl wanna see. Anyways haters just pulling shit out of their asses.

Bellamy Blake

I meant fatipapi under her comment about Sansa and Ramsay’s dogs… she responded to you but you clearly didn’t take notice…

Jessica

And 2nd half of comments are mainly about Sean 😭 lmao. Sometimes I think, “let me see what’s up” but I need to keep my sanity. Y’all have fun with that!

A_Daddy Daichi

As cool as dragon battles are, it truly pains me to see dragons killing each other 😭

A_Daddy Daichi

Why are yall so pressed about Sansa here? She’s not my favorite character but why are we expecting a teenage girl to know about battle strategy to tell Jon exactly what to do? If we compare this to Catelyn advising Robb, not even she had that knowledge and the little bit wisdom she shared with him was entirely negotiation wise (marriage proposal) not to mention she was much more experienced in political affairs and she still fumbled Jamie bc she wanted to save her kids. Sansa gave up on Rickon cus she knew she couldn’t get him back, but she used it at first to motivate Jon to recruit people. She’s smart about not trusting Little finger, and using him as a wild card, Jon doesn’t know him and how dirty he is, would the odds been better with the full force from start? Possibly, maybe Jon doesn’t rush in first, maybe the calvary flanks the pile of bodies and they don’t get trapped. We will never know. It is a battle thousands of people would’ve died either way, specially with that psycho throwing arrows non stop.

༒ dianna ༒

i mean i was but i’ve called off for less 😂 im 20 i work at a grocery store i promise they dgaf

alexis ♡︎

This is one of the best/most satisfying episodes of tv I’ve ever seen

Richie Sour

@Sean I pray for the day Patreon glitches, logs you off and you forget your password. I repeat you are insufferable.

༒ dianna ༒

I leave for almost 24 hours and there’s over 1K comments. Y’all are determined

A_Daddy Daichi

I take my earlier comment back after reading through these comments, I should've used that effort to reread AGOT or something of value.

Timmy Turner

Sean's favorite character has to be the beast titan, because just like him he loves being 1v100 😂

Kesendo

@Sean bro this is nothing to be proud about lol

༒ dianna ༒

The quality of this episode man, I do agree the horses in slow motion cook! I remember watching this episode and screaming at the TV ZIG ZAG RICKON WTF. 😭😭😭

༒ dianna ༒

🙏🏻

I❤️movies&tvshows

😂

I❤️movies&tvshows

What number comments do we have to hit to get the next episode? Please tell us I’m sure everyone would participate in that number.

I❤️movies&tvshows

@Meri / @Shadow although I've also already made a marriage pact with @Shadow (whom I adore), so maybe I'll just have to take 2 consorts, as Aegon the Conqueror did.

Daenerys Targaryen

Who is Brig related to? Carter and Cannon look so much alike that was obvious. I didn’t know about the others. These 5 are a great combination. I have also seen their sister with them in videos for other shows here.

I❤️movies&tvshows

I know that there are a very small select few in this Patreon who are on my team, we are on the right side of history “We are not a large house, but we’re a proud and every man in support of Sean fights with the strength of 10 irrational patrons” Look at me quoting Lyanna Mormont, super misogynistic I know

Sean Carroll

@Sean and Sean, I don't hate you. In fact, I even agree with some of your takes. I just wish you were a bit more respectful in your communication. So this poll is all in fun and in NO way to fan the flames of this messy comment section 😂

Daenerys Targaryen

Sean, you’re being delusional again, or maybe just dumb? You know I’ve given you clear arguments in this comment section LMAOO you’ve responded to them

Meri Gjelaj

Now that Rickon is dead (rip), I can finally say one of my favorite fun facts about GOT. All the direwolves are named after their owners story. Ghost - John dies and comes back to life. Lady - Sansa’s dream in the beginning was to be a lady of high standing. After betraying her family to get her lady position next to Joffrey, she quickly became subjected to the worst that a lady could. Grey Wind - Robb’s legacy comes fast and ends just as fast as the wind. Additionally the phrase “words are wind” are used in the books, meaning that words cannot be trusted, just like Robb’s words. Nymeria - Nymeria is the name of a warrior queen in the universe, Arya became an extremely skilled warrior despite being a girl, just like Nymeria. Summer - summer symbolizes hope and peace in this universe. With the white walkers, aka winter being here, Bran is one of few people left to hope in to survive winter. You can also interpret the white walkers killing Summer as in killing all hope. Shaggydog - A shaggydog is a long drawn out story that amounts to nothing, just as Rickon’s story.

MaraReaper

Yeah Sean, until they fix the wagon terrains I have no choice but to be on your side.

Dani

Kostilus, nyke jaelagon episode 10. *Cry in High Valyrian

BipolarKitten

Jessica: she has only said “oh looks like Sean is triggered” that’s been her only argument, if you can point me in the direction of a logical rebuttal to mine I’ll look for it. 1000 comments is a lot to comb through

Sean Carroll

meri vs sean like merab vs sean. ifykyk

Jacob Goldsmith

See you took my comments as me “shaming” which proves to me that you ARE upset…this isn’t fun if you’re going to be so sensitive smh. And Sean you have been proving to be the most emotional one in this comment section with every passing comment. Of all people, you shouldn’t be the one to claim others can’t make “firm” comments without detaching their emotions, that just sounds silly coming for you🤭

Meri Gjelaj

@Dani, I understand. All the writers did was fumble!

Daenerys Targaryen

So you’re on my team Dani?

Sean Carroll

@Meri, my late husband Hizdahr zo Loraq was just murdered, so I'm open to marriage to join our Houses 😉

Daenerys Targaryen

There is nothing illiterate about my comments, and I am not angry, you are confused about the difference between making firm comments because maybe you haven’t got that ability to make a firm comment without detaching your emotions from it. I do have that ability. Trying to shame me by saying “big boy emotions” just shows you are trying to come at me from a personal level rather than a logical level, dealing in emotions is not how I debate but clearly how you do, I feel sorry for the people you defend in court someday

Sean Carroll

I don’t expect you to comb through 19 reaction videos but I assure you they are there, I guess you either supported people getting personal with me or chose to ignore it. Other people know that I’ve received personal attacks since season 5 started, even cannon commented on one of them earlier this season. The evidence is there if you choose to look for it

Sean Carroll

It’s okay Dani, I understand🙏🏻

Meri Gjelaj

Nah am sorry, the writers fumbled the wagon terrains so hard. I can't be team Meri.

Dani

Maybe we can join our houses?

Meri Gjelaj

Hannah: 1. I never said I would stop putting forth my opinion, positive or negative. All Carter said was I could choose to dial it down. I have calmed down from how I previously spoke slightly but still within the bounds of the rules. 2. The fat shaming comment thread was deleted before I had a chance to return to it, I don’t know what anyone said in reply to me. But I will provide my answer here. I personally was fat in my late teens and early 20s (about 4 years). People in my life started telling me that I need to lose weight because I’ve become fat. The tough comments that I needed to hear were the kick in the ass I needed to lose the weight. Now at 27 I am in the best shape of my life and a lot healthier. I attribute my success to being fat shamed enough to finally make the tough choice to change it. Therefore I am a supporter of fat shaming with the intention of helping the individual make healthier life choices. If I say to someone they have put on a lot of weight and need to start making healthy choices because they are fat now that is the best way of telling them. if I sad “hey bro you’re a fat loser” that is obviously taking it too far. People need to hear tough truths in order to get the push they need to make better life choices. The topic from what I remember is someone got mad at me for saying that and then said that someone at their school committed suicide because of shaming. I don’t know the details behind that and obviously believe that the bullying they received was on the extreme end that caused that result, but as I have highlighted here I am not a supporter of extreme fat shaming to that point. 3. I provide my reasoning behind why I believe this show to have fallen apart after season 4, yes maybe I comment on too many threads but that doesn’t change the overall point I make in my large comments. I certainly have the power to have a civil discussion about the show and have had some recently. The issue I have is when people get personal with me I have no obligation to continue being civil with them. Sometimes I choose to and sometimes I don’t. 4. I have no interest in changing the way I communicate and it’s not my responsibility how peoples feelings get affected due to an opinion about a show. If people can’t handle my criticism than that’s a problem with their emotions. I changed my name because at this point it’s a meme that I am leaning into.

Sean Carroll

My girl Meri. I've declared for you already my dear lol. But your'e correct, the only correct answer is to declare for Daenerys of House Targaryen 😬

Daenerys Targaryen

Danny I’ve bent the knee to you🧎🏻‍♀️

Meri Gjelaj

Did you actually read the first comment she did to you?

Jessica

Click here if you declare for House Sean (got s 5-8 hater) and definitely a misogynist

Daenerys Targaryen

Click here if you declare for House Meri Gjelaj

Daenerys Targaryen

McKay and Jack are twins. Jack is the older one. Jack is married, while McKay is engaged to me.🤪

BipolarKitten

Fingers are sore but I’m built different

Sean Carroll

500 comments from Sean alone

BipolarKitten

And I’m trying not to climb it haha

Super Novice

The music score alone 🔥

Scinaps

Chaos is a ladder

Meri Gjelaj

This comment section is pure chaos lol. Skimming through it has made me the lord of frenzied flame.

Super Novice

Then maybe you should stop reading them. You already don’t have enough brain cells as is, you need to salvage what you have left🙏🏻

Meri Gjelaj

And what about the time I called you out for promising everyone (including Studio Gek who asked you personally) weeks ago to stop your negativity in this comment section, and to not reply to other people’s comments with absurd, condescending, pointless replies? Only to blatantly continue after a week of rest? You know, when you made a fat shaming comment a couple weeks ago and then never replied when multiple people called you out on it? Or is it just you who doesn’t have to reply to things they don’t want to? I truly do not understand you Sean. I don’t get why you feel the need to be so contrary and condescending and to try and bring people who genuinely enjoy things down. Your opinion is your truth. Not everyone else’s. You can’t even hide behind “I just want to have productive discussions with opposing views”, because nothing about your tone, writing style, choice of words and general manner is productive for a civil discussion. Please reflect on the way you speak to other people and present your opinions. Some of the time I genuinely agree with your posts but the way you come off is just so rude and pretentious that no one can see your name now without instantly being prepared for the worst.

hannahbee99

Wow 1000+ comments and no one made a 69 joke, this comment section has hope.

Timmy Turner

Literally!!😭🤣

Amber S

It's cuz we're waiting on the best episode of GOT 6x10 give it to us now!

Dani

Lmao I’m literally itching for the next episode!!😂😂 it’s probably one my favorites in the whole series!! So good!!!!

Amber S

1k comments is insane 😂

Brig Andrus

Sounds like a you problem buddy

Meri Gjelaj

cmon geks bless us with a morning upload

Jacob Goldsmith

Sean take a rest. You’re just sounding illiterate at this point lol it’s very clear that you’re upset, which I understand. processing big boy emotions can be hard sometimes🫶🏻 It’s also clear you’re running out of things to comment because now you’ve resorted to making things up, but I guess someone’s gotta be delusional!! I do not fear you or your small words and will be responding to your criticisms shortly🧚🏻‍♀️

Meri Gjelaj

i think its more that half the community has you blocked dude

Jacob Goldsmith

I’m not pissed off, you are conflating two different things based off my comments Me calling out your fear of countering my arguments is not me being pissed off, it’s simply pointing out the issue of you being scared to get slaughtered by my rebuttal

Sean Carroll

This has been an ongoing thing since season 5 started, looking in one comments section isn’t gonna cut it

Sean Carroll

Meri vs Sean 😂😂

Leo

I was always going to, I just had to piss you off first

Meri Gjelaj

Finally, only took you 5 chances

Sean Carroll

I’ve been scrolling through all of these comments and people have yet to attack you, relax my boy

Meri Gjelaj

Realistically I don’t think anyone gives a shit🤗

Meri Gjelaj

It’s curiosity is it? Interesting

Meri Gjelaj

I’m not mad, I’m just calling you out

Sean Carroll

I’m just curious what other people think of it, I’ve never called for the community to check something before so decided to this one time

Sean Carroll

You’ll hear my argument just hold on

Meri Gjelaj

Give me a second, because I’m definitely responding

Meri Gjelaj

Now how are you going to get mad at me when I say you’re triggered when you comment things like this…nowwww Sean😔

Meri Gjelaj

LMAOOOOOOO💃🏻🕺🏻

Meri Gjelaj

Does anyone else see in Fatipapi’s comment thread Meri completely dodging my questions regarding my three main criticisms of this episode?

Sean Carroll

I have given you the three topics for you to counterpoint twice and you have dodged the question once again, that is 5 times. I want to hear your argument against my criticisms of this episode regarding those 3 topics

Sean Carroll

🗣️“And who are you?" The proud Lord said

Bellamy Blake

Do you really think I’m the type of person to imagine things when I’m such an analytical person? I’ve seen some horrible comments on here which maybe you haven’t seen in your own little world you seem to be living in

Sean Carroll

I’m waiting

Jarvis O'Kain

Comment 1000 🥳

Armaghan Dawar

Comment 999

Armaghan Dawar

Comment 998

Armaghan Dawar

Comment 997

Armaghan Dawar

I know I’ve seen this episode multiple times. And I never get tired of watching it.

Eliana Ayala

@Gertrude I have never told anyone to stop watching anything. Please find the post where I've said that. I can wait. You twisting my words or misremembering or misreading them is your problem. "Keeps telling them" LMAO... can you give examples? You literally LIED. You are constructing your narrative in your head and then using your words to put them into my mouth when talking about me. That comes with all sorts of problems.

Mysterious Figure

@Sean I think it's not about you bothering people. It's about them clinging to their fiction being perfect in their head... and then it's destroyed by rational arguments which makes it deflate into something they cant mindlessly adore anymore, so the object they idolized suddenly deflates into something less than, in their own eyes, which they cannot accept. So they rather reject you instead. Oh and also, you replying to a huge percentage of comments so often does tend to seem like you have an opinion about almost literally everything anyone here says, which does seem to bother people. That I do concede. However, I also see there are people that find it amusing or funny, me being among those. Oh and, I think its really no wonder you are keeping your sanity despite all this, because... thats what happens when you are a SANE person.

Mysterious Figure

arent you the guy that keeps telling them to stop watching Haikyuu in every haikyuu ep Mysterious Figure? the irony lol

Desolation

Thanks for the info 👍 I did not know they were brothers.

Eliana Ayala

1000 comments first I bet

Eliana Ayala

No haven’t seen band of brothers. Have only recently heard about it and people seem to love it

Sean Carroll

Buddy how am I dodging if I quite literally keep asking you to tell me what you want to hear😭

Meri Gjelaj

Yes opinions are subjective, is this your way of dodging the debate?

Sean Carroll

Sean maybe you’re imagining things, I don’t think it’s that bad lol

Meri Gjelaj

You are continuing to dodge the question Meri, it is a sad state for our world when you will be the person up in front of a judge defending someone’s livelihood. You know you can’t debate me with anything. All I’ve seen from you is “oh boy looks like somebody is triggered”. I have told you to present your arguments against my main comment regarding 1. Dany, 2. Battle 3. Sansa and the vale. You say you are happy to provide your argument against mine but have dodged the question 4 times This is your last chance to provide a counter argument I the criteria I have laid out above for you. Will you do it this time or avoid the question once again. Somehow I feel the latter.

Sean Carroll

@Nonos thats exactly my point and why I said what I said. My thoughts on specifically HxH were only met with attacks on my person and not what Ive said about it so you acting as if Ive said something funny here is you showing your brain rot or? That is exactly one of the reasons many of the people here are idiots that cant discuss differences of opinion without resorting to personal attacks since they cant separate their own fanaticism about their beloved piece of fiction from its own faults.

Mysterious Figure

I mean I clearly do bother people, just admit it, I’ve been told in these comments 1. Kill myself 2. Sean is a cancer 3. Get a life 4. You are a loser 5. Can somebody please block him 6. Fuck off loser It’s a wonder I am able to hold onto my sanity through it all

Sean Carroll

almost as a 998 lord commander of the Nights Watch

Stanislav

Fair enough👍🏻

Meri Gjelaj

Just to clarify I'm not a city fan 😂 Just showing off the kits in the picture

Vik Mar

Honestly the chills I got from beginning to end

Jessica

Man, it took me a whole year to read all of these comments . I have to show you some love for being the first!!!

Jada

You were living in a George rr Martin world where plot armor didn't exist. This now a D&D world where plot armor is handed out to everybody. Especially the Starks I.e Arya and Jon!

Jada

Almost 1000 comments in patreon is insane lol

‎

Episode 10 is peak television! Seeing it live for the first time was insane, twitter was in shambles at that time. I can only imagine what the comment section will look like when the geks release episodes 10

Jada

My favorite episode out of all of season 6, man I can't wait for them to upload it!!!!

Jada

GoT/Hotd fans are so toxic man, I can't lie- I'm the same way sometimes. I know it's annoying, but we love our characters and show.

Jada

Come on Sean that was pretty funny

Meri Gjelaj

I’ll be here waiting to present you with with an argument if you still care

Meri Gjelaj

Sean, my dear, all of this is subjective…our opinions regarding this show are not right OR wrong…you may not like them and disagree, but you simply cannot say they’re wrong, THAT is wrong lol I’ve argued with you and challenged your arguments severalll times in this comment section so far. I know you don’t understand them, and again, unfortunately I don’t possess the power to help you understand, but feel free to scroll through the comments, find my counter arguments, and re-read them until they click in your cutesy little brain🧚🏻‍♀️

Meri Gjelaj

Fatipapi I can’t wait to use that in court. However, instead I would say, your honor, it seems the defendant is experiencing a strong emotional response.

Meri Gjelaj

No no Paul, he doesn’t bother anyone

Meri Gjelaj

How do you feel about De Bruynes ass performance in the euros lol

Meri Gjelaj

Powerful stuff girl

Sean Carroll

Carter and cannon are brothers, Carter is older and McKay and jack are brothers, I’m not sure who is older or if they are twins

Sean Carroll

One of the fellows made a comment about imagining if Rickon were your younger brother, how hard that would be, and it made me realize I don't know who the older and younger brothers are in this group... maybe the Gek bros should post brief bios of themselves for newer viewers :)

Patrick

Are you sick of Sean’s nitpicking? Do you wish he’d ever stop pretending his criticisms are legit? Do you hate when it’s not a wagon terrain? I have the perfect solution for you! Simply reply to his comments with this: https://youtu.be/EW6m2ECJP8E?si=v_ZlOIW5Lyp1FKCO

Dani

1k comments for sure

Scinaps

I love the reactions but the comment section always kills the fun for me. Why is everyone so mad all the time 💀

clémence

Messi ain't got as much GOT(Ball) knowledge as Sean🐐. Even Ronaldo couldn't walk the same walk as Sean🐐 let alone Messi.

Vik Mar

I can already hear the “your honour… seems like I’ve triggered the defendant ☺️”

Fatipapi

Messi

Leo

Sean has really calmed down recently and i appreciate how passionate he is

Chuck Norris

Cannon is wearing a Ferrari shirt and i know he said Leclrec at one point can yall PLEASE react to RUSH one Saturday. Its the best racing film ever made, it follows the most famous Ferrari driver of all time Nikki Lauda. I also know yall said you check the IMDB scores for shows/movies and it has an 8.1 which is a great score but still so underrated. You will love it i promise

Chuck Norris

Sean for the balon d'or🐐 Who says no?

Vik Mar

You’re fun…no matter how many times I rewatch GoT this episode always hits. The starks are finally home again.

Jv1300

Whats gonna come first, 1000 comments or 6x10 drop??

Armaghan Dawar

I agree with everything you listed there Sean. I take it you've never seen Band of Brothers? Cause I feel like that would definitely be up there. I could list off 20 more movies that are near 10/10 If you don't think Empire Strikes Back is top tier idk what to yell ya.

Paul Durbin

This is beautiful keep it up

Paul Durbin

give me my favorite got episode please!!!! We want 6x10 now.

Dani

This is an unexpectedly wholesome moment in the lore for me idk I got warm fuzzies

Bellamy Blake

Omg ok fair. Im going to bed. 💕 see you guys on 6x10

emma.bean

Emma, I'm with Sean in this convo 😂😂

Leo

“Due to the 1000 comments reaction vids” what does this mean…

emma.bean

Yeah you’re drunk, my comment makes sense

Sean Carroll

I love how much he bothers everyone and how much he truly doesn't care. He's livin rent free.

Paul Durbin

I'd be a sad day without a Sean comment in the GoT episode.

Paul Durbin

Good to know. I'll up the autismo.

Paul Durbin

Yeah I figured it be out today. They watched both episodes yesterday. Oh well.

Paul Durbin

oof

Paul Durbin

Majority counts. So do pinky promises.

Paul Durbin

Are you drunk or am I? Idk what your comment is trying to say. 😭 all I was sayin is the series finale gonna have… I’m gonna say 1500 comments at least. Maybe 2000. I was going to try to work “over-under” gambling lingo in this comment but I still just can’t understand what that means 😭

emma.bean

That's what made GOT so special originally and why later seasons cop a lot of hate. Actions had consequences, it was a grounded and real as could be fantasy. From Season 6 onwards it loses it's original charm in favour of more Fantasy, it's still good fantasy don't get me wrong but it's not what made people fall GOT in seasons 1-4. Plot armour is a very real and valid criticism, especially for GOT. It only gets worse from season 7 onwards.

Skyz

I feel you Shadow. I briefly unblocked him to see what all the craziness was about that was going on in the comment section here and on 6x8, and was only able to stomach it for about 2 mins before I blocked him again. He sometimes even makes some valid points, but then he goes on to comment under almost EVERY other comment, and sometimes is just nasty and borderline sexist so there's no reason to have a genuine debate with him. But I think that's his point. It's to rile people up and get a back and forth going.

Daenerys Targaryen

Nah, but Europa league tho😂🤦‍♂️

Vik Mar

Season 8 is going to be a spectacle only due to the 1000 comments reaction vids

Sean Carroll

In GoT (show) sure, maybe Jon?? But in ASOIAF (book), I am, hands down, no question lol.

Daenerys Targaryen

Hate the writing of this episode. So. Fucking. Much. Sansa and Jon being written as the biggest idiots in Westeros, so much foolishness for the sake of drama. Tell Jon about the Knights of the Vale ffs!

Mzuka

Still plays in europa league 😭😭😭

Leo

For me and most of the people it is great episode. Majority counts. So yeah it is a great episode.

Leo

A big episode… not a great episode

Sean Carroll

McKay please react to l+r=j video.

Leo

The comment section on the series finale is going to be absolute insanity 😭

emma.bean

926 comments... this is wild! Holy cow! 🔥

Rhaenys Targaryen-The Queen Who Should Have Been

That’s ok 💕

emma.bean

Power of a great episode

Leo

I literally was here when it started and then got a full 8 hours of sleep only to wake up to 200+ comments of it still going on 😭

Jessica

100 of them in 14 mins from my comment. HYPED FRENZY

Lady Stoneheart (UnCat)

I don’t think we can be friends

Sean Carroll

Battle of the geks under the reaction of battle of the basterds

Leo

20 league titles, most in history

Sean Carroll

I think they will upload next episode after 1000 comments. Let's cross that line.

Leo

Battle of the geks in the comments I see 💀

Jessica

Europa league 😂

Vik Mar

900 comments 😳

McKay Carter

I mean you weren’t clearly 😭 but why you gotta be instantly combative… we can be friend

emma.bean

I just watched episode 10 again and I’m even more excited now!!

Jessica

How was I supposed to know you were drunk

Sean Carroll

Yeah the second I get done typing it's over 9000! 😅

Lady Stoneheart (UnCat)

There’s only so much to criticise for an episode that isn’t bad, it’s a good episode. 7.5 is a good score. It is the most overhyped episode in the show though

Sean Carroll

900 comments now, let’s get it to 1000

Sean Carroll

“Hated and adored, but never ignored” Manchester United Basically applies to me

Sean Carroll

And no ones going to read this but I'm sad 6x10 is coming this long weekend because I won't be able to watch it in peace lol ... try as I might to wait til Tuesday or be distracted? 🤷🏾‍♀️

Lady Stoneheart (UnCat)

Carter predicted the battle, I’m losing braincells reading Meri’s comments

Sean Carroll

What is danys best season? Season 3 is the only season I can see matching season 1. Quarth in season 2 is awful, and the entire season 4-6 mereen plot is terrible. Then we all know how bad it becomes later

Sean Carroll

This is hilarious because I was here at 600+ comments, now it's 800+ and KNEW Sean had shown up and 70% of them would just be people replying to him saying how he should stfu while simultaneously creating space and opportunity for not doing so. At this point, if you haven't blocked him, ya'll love it. And I wasn't even going to say anything, but it baffles me everytime how you're literally multiplying the amount of "drama" by drawing attention to nothing really.

Lady Stoneheart (UnCat)

Sean it’s not that serious. lol my comment wasn’t meant to be that serious 😭 I’m just drunky from city wide party and giving the geks playful shit. I did think the ep would come tonight but if it’s tomorrow that’s ok boys 💕

emma.bean

You say you are a law student but when someone calls you out for being totally wrong your only argument back is “oh boy looks like I’ve triggered you” Are you failing law school?

Sean Carroll

Is anyone else seeing this? Meri talks a big game but when brought to the fire she isn’t able to do anything

Sean Carroll

Sean disappointed me. I expected more criticism from him.

Leo

You really need to chill out, this is an incredible level of entitlement in your comment

Sean Carroll

Ok we just burnt Zozo and I was sure ep 10 would be here when I got home 😫 what the hold up boys?

emma.bean

They 10000000% enjoy it.

Meri Gjelaj

I wonder what the geks think of all these comments going about... Like is it annoying for them or they enjoy it as entertainment.

Vik Mar

But u were joking tho ryt?

Vik Mar

Nahh this coming from the guy who sent out full essay worth comments trashing hxh is funny asf can’t lie. Will never forget those ass takes but we all have our own opinions ig 😂😂

Nonos

I appreciate your support Believe me I have other things in my life I’m passionate about

Sean Carroll

Okay guys, fight somewhere else please. I am trying to sleep 💀

HNadR

Oh I actually am not an idiot and will not be spoiling the rest of show here!! Hope this helps!!

Meri Gjelaj

He who shall not be named

Jacob Goldsmith

Ehhh kinda sorta I really loved some of the dragon sequences in that one episode later on in the series (if you know what I mean) when it was really dark outside!

Jada

Guessing we get 6x10 on Saturday

ian

Bingo

Meri Gjelaj

Fight sequences, yes, anything else...ehh maybe, maybe not. Caraxes arriving at harrenhal was peak television. Caraxes design and roar is top-tier. Moondancer's head horns moving as it roars...top-tier! Caraxes...oh did I mention Caraxes. Sunfyre being a golden beaut is 10x better than drogon sorry not sorry. The bronze fury had about 20 minutes of screen time and was still more iconic than drogon!

Jada

At this point some things just become part of the culture so you can have good fun with it no? If thats how you decide to take things. Im sure you've heard that one... life... lemons... lemonade? Just laugh about it and it will be something funny instead of annoying.

Mysterious Figure

@Sean just for the record, I fully support your commendable stoicism in rationally expressing your opinion despite the unrelenting deluge of aggressive attempts to silence you and/or attack your person instead of your arguments. My experience here is somewhat alike. I will perhaps make fun of some of the things you do or say but my own approach is similarly critical about many things I am passionate about. I just hope you wont forget there are other things in life to be passionate about besides just this one thing.

Mysterious Figure

If you complain about that person and don't block them you're part of the problem

Euphemia Isobel

Can't wait!! It's my favorite episode of this season

Jada

I forgot he died, and I rewatch this show about a good 27 times...no joke

Jada

Both❤️ Idk I feel like I can truly feel the power of a dragon battle. Just goes to show you how powerful the Targaryen really were. (I wasn't to please with episode 4 of HotD dragon battle)

Jada

Crunchyroll is best option to watch aot on, only about $10 a month

Sean Carroll

I’m not giving up hope for a drop tonight just yet 🥹

Rigny la Belle

LMFAOOOOOOOOOOO

R

Accounting study for my CPA qualification

Sean Carroll

Somebody with a brain!

Jada

Sean shouldn’t you be studying, or drafting your hate speech for the next episode🤨

Meri Gjelaj

I’m looking forward to being a dad, all the time in the world for my eventual children

Sean Carroll

@Ana let him have it. We all need something to live for. XD

Mysterious Figure

Ana his comments don’t affect anyone they’re just funny af lol

Meri Gjelaj

Yep

Sean Carroll

You think I don’t know that buddy

Meri Gjelaj

I’ll be talking in 6x10 by the way

Sean Carroll

Lmaoooooo

Jada

I always get chills when Davos says Go! Go! Follow your commander.

Leo

Exactly!!!!!

Jada

And what purpose was that Meri?

Sean Carroll

Can we get 6x10 so that we can move on from this comment section🙏🏻

Meri Gjelaj

Clearly it’s ass.

Meri Gjelaj

😭😭😭😭😭

Meri Gjelaj

Provide the context Octavia, given the nonsense you’ve expounded for a while now I doubt you have much to say

Sean Carroll

Im imagining Sean some day in his 70s telling his nieces and nephews... (bc I dont imagine him having time for his own kids for reasons we all know)... so I imagine him, if any one of them even listens to him, telling them something like this: "Let me tell you about the time I got to tell all them guys on those patreon comments my opinions... back in my day... I sure told them about my opinions! EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM!" I dont even disagree with the guy a lot of the time LMAO. But oh man... I sure want to live outside of here too.

Mysterious Figure

After this season Sansa became a declining character on my list.

Ana

I don’t drink coffee

Sean Carroll

Where can I watch Aot? I know the geks reacted to it, but they talk too much and it's hard to follow the plot, unless I've already seen it. I know it's on prime but I have to pay for it, even though I already pay for prime.

Jada

Wow brig. 7.5 is not a bad score, it’s a good score

Sean Carroll

They also only say zigzag cuz we seen so many movies and stuff lol a little kid not thinking about that especially in those times

Caraxes🐐DT

Yeah I mostly try to ignore him bc having opinions is one thing but replying to dozens of people just to argue and tell them they’re wrong for liking something is kinda 🤪🤣

Anna

Yesssss!!! I can't wait

Jada

Ooooo what are we studying for Sean

Meri Gjelaj

1. I'm very confused because you're not actually making an intelligible criticism. Rickon acted exactly like a young kid in his situation would act. Adrenaline is not magic. He's panicking and reacting like a normal child would. Even if he zigzagged he gets shot. This is a moot point. 2. You cannot accept characters surviving illogical situations thoughout the show and only criticize this. My point with the Tyrion thing was that the Kingsguard who tried to kill Tyrion was going for a killshot. The only reason Tyrion escaped with just a scratch was plot. Stannis was the first person in the vanguard at Blackwater and he miraculously survived too. Your point would only work if Jon was the only character who survived. But at least 30% of Jon's army survived the battle if not more, so that chance that Jon was one of them is high. If you have to exaggerate the liklihood of Jon dying while ignoring that George R.R. Martin has used plot armor in every battle of the series, then cmon dude, you're just being contrarian . There are actual criticsms of this episode that you can make. Stop going for the nitpicks and analyze the show a bit more.

Tokyo Ghoul Supremacist

It's so many comment, that they won't load lmaoo, next episode is my favorite. I better see all of these beautiful ppl again in the comment section, so we can discuss the best episode of season 6.

Jada

And it’s all downhill from here

Sean Carroll

It’s Saturday bruv and I haven’t got plans this weekend other then study

Sean Carroll

Sooo many lmao I can't wait to read them all. We are all going to relive 2018 again

Jada

you psyched my out with a phone noto lol

Jacob Goldsmith

so true

Eliana Ayala

the suspense is real? i kno im not the only one spam refreshing

Jacob Goldsmith

RE: Tokyo Ghoul Supremacist, thats a super good explanation that I have never heard. This is not at fault to Sansa the character, or Sophie Turner, but the writers should have added this explanation. It would have made her seem more calculated and even a bit ruthless (in a cool way)...You cant afford to "show" not tell in a situation like this. Way too much open to interpretation. That being said, either way its a nitpick to a great episode.

jblakk

6x10? 👀😱

Amber S

Nah, you don't understand. His job is professional hater.

Thomas Strunk

6x10… 👀

R

@Sean dude who tf pissed in your coffee this morning

Camilla

I feel like 6x10 is dropping any minute now👁️

David J

Did Sean take time off work specifically to take part in all the comments for this episode?

Mysterious Figure

a whole 10 minutes of it 🫶🏻 https://youtu.be/B93k4uhpf7g?si=jEnCJB6t20_U_BoT

Camilla

Thorfinn was right violence is so cringe

Sanji

damn 😔

alexis ♡︎

Also to make everyone sad, since they finished Season 6 now, there's only 13 episodes left. For perspective, the same number of episodes since Daenerys met Tyrion (5x07 ) and the end of Season 6.

Thomas Strunk

There's no way Brigg can convince me he didn't see the name of this episode on IMDB and figure out what was going to happen lol

Thomas Strunk

Star Wars is kinda garbage by today standards. Nothing Star Wars is higher than a 7/10 at best. It's super dated. The only people who enjoy it are people that first watched it as kids.

Thomas Strunk

In my opinion, both Sansa and Jon made mistakes regarding this battle, but they also both clutched up

Brittany (Ultraanimegirl4)

@sean if your talking about dany having the most character development in season 1 i get it but that was far from her best season, more like her most tragic season. and @Jack you is a hater for no reason!! especially in this season, to the point it’s becoming forced, b4 she could say anything you are always making snarky comments and rolling your eyes like why are you so salty 💀

jason 𒉭

Wow it worked! Thnx so much!

BRO.

Sure thing buddy

Mia Malvik

Yay Sophia!!! Another intelligent one👏🏻👏🏻

Meri Gjelaj

I have my wine ready for 6x10. Battle of the Bastards is 100 but Winds of Winter is 1000.

Rigny la Belle

I’m afraid I am responsible for a lot of them💫

Meri Gjelaj

😂 seriously though

Bri-Ana Monique

802 comments is wildddddd

Bri-Ana Monique

@Mia Malvik ok just redownloaded, hopefully it works! do u mind replying to this msg again pls?

BRO.

800 comments is insane

David J

Trust me he's better blocked, I unblocked him for few hours for the entertainment but it got annoying super fast

Amna 🍉

I don’t usually comment a lot and I come in peace lol …but I always thought if the Vale was included in the army from the beginning, Ramsay would have accounted for them, and he would’ve approached the battle with either the same tactics or different ones but either way, he probably would have won, but the surprise element of the vale is what threw him off because he thought all of Jon’s allies were already there. I can’t say if this was Sansa’s thinking (because the dialogue did not make it clear but she was worried about Ramsay’s manipulative nature), or if it was an accident that ended up working, but I think if Ramsay had accounted for the Vale as part of the numbers in Jon’s army, the Starks would have lost, just like they were before the Vale came at the end

Sophia

I had the same issue, delete the app and redownload. Solved it for me

Mia Malvik

Good job editing this comment before it got ugly 👏🏻 *deletes paragraph*

Meri Gjelaj

I never have

Meri Gjelaj

You can continue to live in your own little world if you want

Sean Carroll

does anyone else not get Patreon notifications anymore?

BRO.

Again it doesn’t make sense to you for whatever reason…and unfortunately I can’t make you smarter

Meri Gjelaj

Buddy never did I say you condoned it. But regardless season 1 still being your favorite is still very strange given the fact that her entire storyline was based upon suffering. She had absolutely nothing going for her in season 1, just a shitty life. Idk how any of that is interesting…guess we have different interests

Meri Gjelaj

It just doesn’t make sense to you for whatever reason and I can’t help you raise your IQ in order for you to understand the comment🫶🏻

Meri Gjelaj

What? People endorsing your comment doesn’t mean anything when your comment makes no sense

Sean Carroll

Seannnnn I didn’t know you were secretly so sensitive smh😔 I believe the wagon joke has only been made 2 or 3 times…way too few to be getting old so we shall continue!!

Meri Gjelaj

Don’t worry girlfriend, I’m not leaving

Sean Carroll

Because what you’re saying makes zero sense

Sean Carroll

It was the most interesting of her storyline’s, everything after that was just cringe and boring. Struggle is what makes someone interesting to follow. What she went through with drogo was horrible. Me saying it’s the best portion of her story does not mean I condone rape or any sexual assault. Please Meri use your brain

Sean Carroll

Bit of a random thing to assume, I dislike a character in the show = no girls in real life. All I’ll say is I have no problems with girls in real life, only a select few in here

Sean Carroll

I can’t be blocked unless I break rules, hating on something just because people don’t like it is not a rule break

Sean Carroll

No Meri, trash is episodes in seasons 7 and 8, also season 6 ep 1

Sean Carroll

you will love dark as much mckay i know it

Jacob Goldsmith

Paul I know I know ✋🏻

Meri Gjelaj

Yeah you’re fired

Sean Carroll

Oh hi Sean!!!!! Guess what! It actually is a fantasy show…🤭 and my basis has already been fulfilled and fleshed out several times throughout the comments🧚🏻‍♀️

Meri Gjelaj

i dont even attempt to read seans opinions pieces. its just cancer tbh

Jacob Goldsmith

Too bad I am mad at you. Now go to your room young lady

Sean Carroll

i would like some of ur attention for a second. too many replies on ur negatives comment… when it comes to danys storyline i understand your complaints and i just appreciated the dragons like you said. battle of the bastards - im so tired of the zigzag comments. that is not something that has been a known thing until like maybe the past 100 yrs. also he is a young boy who literally has had no real guidance throughout his growing up. so makes sense he is j gonna run scared to jon everything else u said its like u expect all humans to have logic in heightened and scary situations. this is a FANTASY show, not everything is supposed to make perfect sense. i like that this show gives us examples of how you can have all the tools in front of u to help ur situation yet u choose to be selfish or more emotional bc thats human nature also the scene where the vale comes in to save the day is great in my opinion and to a bunch of the fans(the majority)you seriously just need everything to be perfect and realistic . i don’t understand you bro

Bellaa

Trauma doesn’t matter when the entire operation you are fighting for is at stake, would you rather die or side with someone (for like 1 day) to achieve victory

Sean Carroll

3,5,6 all will for better and worse

Shadow

This kid hasn't even seen atla 🙄

Paul Durbin

8x6 will be huge

Jacob Goldsmith

Meri literally has no basis to stand on, “it’s a fantasy show, of course the character survives hundreds of arrows, trampling and smothering”

Sean Carroll

1. In life or death situations adrenaline kicks in that causes all of your sense to be heightened in order to survive. Rickon, despite being terrified should have known that if he moves in different directions rather then straight then he would avoid the arrows. Then he could continue running towards Jon’s army and survive the battle 2. Yes I am triggered that Jon illlgically escaped death over 10 times. You keep giving me this fantasy show argument which falls flat on its face. These are human characters who are in life or death situations that we in the real world would also be in if we were to do something similar. It being a fantasy show has nothing at all to do with Jon surviving unsurvivable things. 3. Don’t give me the lord of light debate when we all know how this show ends. 4. Tyrion in Blackwater survived a slice to the face, that is a survivable thing, yes there is a massive scar on your face forever but you can survive that as long as vital organs aren’t hit. Jon surviving multiple barrages of arrows and trampling and smothering is nonsensical. At hardhome nothing in particular stood out as heavy plot armour other then the white walker not stabbing Jon when it had the chance 5.the wagon joke is getting old 6.

Sean Carroll

I saw 7.5 and stopped reading 🤣

Brig Andrus

No but I’m bored

Meri Gjelaj

Do you need the attention

Sean Carroll

sean, watch the whole scene

Legendarygamer

DONT READ THIS GEKS He did Hardhome, the last two of season 6, and then s8e3 and s8e5.

Paul Durbin

Definitely and one of the geks is gonna hate that episode based of what they said in this vid…

Shadow

The frick is that

Meri Gjelaj

The lord of light could’ve killed Jon and brought him back over and over again if it meant it served his purpose for him…

Meri Gjelaj

Our overlords have declared you two are to fight an agni kai.

Paul Durbin

trash might have been a bit harsh, I can settle for writing mess. but this show has been peak BECAUSE of the writing. when a major episode is an abundance of writing flaws.. well. you can see why I initially used the word that I did

JJ

Ummmmm it kind of does though…you’re not understanding what I’m saying…shame

Meri Gjelaj

is this my manager’s secret account 😟

alexis ♡︎

I wonder how much the s8 episodes will have💀

Shadow

Meri has all the time today

Meri Gjelaj

Sean!!! I was worried, you were gone!!

JC

Sean stop ignoring me😔

Meri Gjelaj

And half of them are hate comments LOL

Meri Gjelaj

Holy… over 700 comments lol

Shadow

Idk how to even get him off mine. Sometimes I feel like I’m missing out but ik it’s just for the better he stays in the void

Shadow

Tyrion has fallen apart as a character after leaving kings landing

Sean Carroll

And then you wake up with yet another got again 🤣

Elain

Aot shiganshina battle is peak battle

Sean Carroll

Good one, despite how poor seasons 5 and 6 are, I’m still not sure I’m ready to rewatch the absolute garbage that is 7 and 8

Sean Carroll

Shhhhh you aren’t allowed to criticise game of thrones because it has cool battles, dragons and amazing story.

Sean Carroll

Thank u for telling me that. Man deserves all the flowers. Stunning episode.

Uros Vesic

No

Sean Carroll

Agreed. When you look past great filmmaking and satisfying scenes this ep should not be 9.9 I still think it is way higher then 7.5, but that is just my opinion. At some points they decided that as long as something looks good on the screen, it does not have to make sense. That will be even further expanded in the next 2 seasons. Such potential wasted; it could have been best tv show of all time.

Uros Vesic

And raising canes caniac combo 👍

Sanji

They should block him! He hates every episode lol like why are you here ? Let us enjoy it!

Nat Brojeni

I wake up and I see one piece drops with my ten box pizza 20 sushi sashimi boat 40 beers 10 pills of adderall 50mg brownies and 100 oily men and hot babes surrounding my bath tub while I watch Luffy go gear 10 on these east blue randoms. Good night 🙏

Sanji

Ive seen GoT so many times, and this is the first time i noticed this error.. Sansa quotes Ramsey back to him about him not feeding his dogs for 7 days, but when Ramsay originally said that in the first meeting with Jon, Sansa had already taken off 🥲 she said “youre gonna die tomorrow” and went away, and only after did he start about his dogs 😭

Fatipapi

Meri going off😂

‎

Annnnd sean is back on the block list lol

Amna 🍉

Miguel Sapochnik directed this episode

Amna 🍉

Best villain alongside Tywin

Sean Carroll

Sansa should be locked up for being complicit in thousands of men being killed

Sean Carroll

Ah man i just remembered why I blocked you

Amna 🍉

All the hate I give to D&D, they never fail to direct an episode. They f up characters, write nonsensical plots, but they know how to film it.

Uros Vesic

Rewatched again. Banger of an episode. Banger of a reaction. A man is proud.

Jaqen H'ghar

Oh please don’t use the lord of light as an excuse, if that’s the case why didn’t he protect Jon during the mutiny where Jon did die? If he still needs Jon why would he let him die the first time Also what does the lord of light really need Jon for???

Sean Carroll

Shiganshina battle absolutely outclasses this average battle

Sean Carroll

When it came out…

Sean Carroll

most sensible explanation I’ve seen: They would not have had an equal army. Ramsay had 6000 men, Jon had 2000 and change. Even with 2000 more Knights of the Vale, Jon would've had fewer soldiers. Given that Jon was going to have fewer soldiers either way, his strategy was to take a good defensive position and goad Ramsay into attacking. He figured that he could outsmart Ramsay and make him attack by taunting him, which would give him the advantage despite having fewer soldiers. And he was confident enough that this would work that he wouldn't listen to Sansa's advice. Sansa, however, knew Ramsay better and knew that he wouldn't get played. Rather, she figured that Ramsay would find a way to outplay Jon. Which is what happened. Now, if she'd told Jon, Jon would've included those men in his original strategy, which would've failed and they'd have been left with no army to protect them. By not telling him, she was keeping an ace up her sleeve. If Jon's plan succeeds, she can commit them to the fighting and they win anyway. If it fails, she can use them to bail him out... or if its too late for that, at least she wouldn't be left with no protection. So, given the circumstances, that was the smartest choice she could've made

Tokyo Ghoul Supremacist

Good catch Dani🙏🏻

Meri Gjelaj

Different types of trust, just because she trusts him with her physical safety doesn't not mean she will talk to him about all her abuse. You are confusing a body guard with a psychologist. Too many in here just see things as black and white, they ignore the different levels and context in which words are used.

PST3

Meri, dragons and ice zombies are the fantasy elements of a show but realistic human elements are not mutually exclusive to that. Falling off a horse is still falling off a horse, which should lead to injuries whether minor or severe, the fact that dragons and ice zombies are in a show doesn’t mean if I fell off a horse I’d be a-ok

Sean Carroll

Also your first two points don’t make sense 1. It makes perfect sense that he wouldn’t think to zig zag and also Ramsey would have just hit him anyways. Zig zagging doesn’t make you invincible. 2. This is literally a compliment to the show. Both characters acted exactly like they would in this scenario.

Tokyo Ghoul Supremacist

@Sean She did nothing wrong regarding what the boys critisize her for : being immature, not giving solution. I mean, he someone is being immature in this episode is John which is non sensical given how his character is suppose to be at this point in time hence the dumb writing. Regarding Sansa not telling John about the knights of the Vale is valid because she is way more perceptive and cunning than the previous season and pretty much know what little finger is after. (S5E6 : conversation between Cersei and littlefinger). She manage to pressure him into coming to her aid without giving enough time to come up with a plan. I think that she would have preferred John to wait before attacking but she couldn't have had littlefinger come to early because he would have find a way to take control of the situation. In my opinion, Sansa was not really to blame for what happend or didn't happend. But i have to emphasize that the story since season 5 is kinda dumb and is getting dumber and dumber each episode. The first 4 seasons were so subtle compare to this.

Christophe Monnier

He’s just projecting 😭 hating on the popular fictional females cos he has none irl

Nomaan

Sean should be in comment jail for being so incompetent and not picking up on all the context clues he’s been given

Bellamy Blake

Sansa’s actions are stupid in 6 7 and 8.

Sean Carroll

Season 1 being her best…what? lol this is concerning given the fact that she was a child being tortured and assaulted during every waking moment

Meri Gjelaj

Who’s gonna tell him that none of this is real and it’s all made up😭😭

Meri Gjelaj

I'm sad that we only have one episode left. To this day, I still don't understand why the production team didn’t continue with Season 7.

BipolarKitten

We’ve really triggered you today LMAOOO

Meri Gjelaj

They didn’t cook with danys writing this season, season 1 is still her best season with season 3 being the next best, but everything apart from season 1 Dany is a terrible character to follow

Sean Carroll

Yes it's poor writing because they never fully explained it, and they never realised a significant portion of the fan base are on the spectrum.

PST3

Oh no Sean…you’re starting to sound psychotic😬

Meri Gjelaj

Don’t worry man, I can handle women

Sean Carroll

Can’t believe a fictional female triggers u so much. Stay mad tho👍

Nomaan

They have probably all seen gladiator, quite an old film but they can for sure react to Gladiator 2 when it comes out

Nasty

and don’t forget Sean, they loaded Rickon’s body on a wagon! There’s no way that’s a wagon terrain.

Dani

I didn't understand how the show was trying to justify it until now, but I understood why she kept it to herself the first time I watched. There's a lot of internalized shame that comes with Sansas experiences. She did everything she could to not need people she literally didn't know if she could trust, then realized when she did need them, and that's when she sent a raven, like the night before the battle. Then did not want to tell Jon she got help from LF because guess who is also stubborn? Ya'll groaned for seasons whenever we entered the Vale, stated outright how much you disliked Lyssa, who attacked her, and Robin Arryn, a stunted child terror, then all of a sudden when LF of all people is in control of the Vale, ya'll want Sansa to feel allegiant to them for what? Just because they're there? I dislike everything Sansa does from this point forward (which I still blame on the writing), but ya'll don't get certain kinds of trauma lol. Neither does the show, but ya.

Lady Stoneheart (UnCat)

She should be in jail for jeopardising the north and being complicit in thousands of men dying

Sean Carroll

There are different levels of trust, being a sibling who you never got along with does not grant them high level of trust. Young abused victims don't tell usually confide with their siblings because of the shame and of being judged. How do you expect her to tell Jon to get help from LF who had a creepy relationship with her, who she knows is a major manipulator and now with military strength of the Vale behind will abuse their position.

PST3

Cringe

Sean Carroll

Not very hard considering season 6 is so poor

Sean Carroll

Episode 5 “I’ll be safe with Jon, I trust him” This is a paraphrase of a conversation between brienne and Sansa

Sean Carroll

What, Tyrion is carrying the show big time. The other good characters are dead like tywin and oberyn.

Nasty

how is this realistic? maybe for barbarians but trained infantry use tactics and battle formations.

Nasty

Leave McKay alone

Meri Gjelaj

Most people are sheep without brains and just rate this episode because “it looks cool”

Sean Carroll

Sean I can sense you’re about to start spoiling, do us all a favor and shut the fuck up before you do🙏🏻🧚🏻‍♀️💫

Meri Gjelaj

The vale arriving ruins it, we knew they were coming so immediately the stakes of the battle were dropped and the issue is if they were there first then none of this would have happened

Sean Carroll

Sansa should be in there with Ramsay after being the reason thousands of men died. She has no right to smile

Sean Carroll

Still a writing mess, it can look good as much as it wants but when it’s not logical or realistic it just ruins it

Sean Carroll

Probably the mountain lol, not with his sword skills of course but since nothing happens if he gets stabbed so he would just brute force it and the hound maybe. Oberyn would kill snow easy but he is gone.

Nasty

“Sansa cooked” WHAT!???!!??!?

Sean Carroll

Theon is the best. Jon is more epic yes

Sean Carroll

Absolutely not, the most overhyped episode in the show is a writing failure

Sean Carroll

lol what, so you are saying that this battle is better then the battles in movies like Lotr, saving private ryan, gladiator, braveheart, kingdom of heaven, dunkirk and many more and tv shows like Vikings, last kingdom, band of brothers, the pacific etc. That is wild bruh. This fight is as realistic as the fights in the movie 300.

Nasty

Cinema yes, while also being a mess writing wise

Sean Carroll

Season 6 is the downfall of Sansa character

Sean Carroll

Don’t be shy Sean…we know you’re dying to call it trash

Meri Gjelaj

Noooooo Sean please don’t be mad at me🙏🏻

Meri Gjelaj

Yea lmao the story explanation is that the Lord of Light is protecting him which makes some sense ig. Every battle on GOT has plot armor (why did Tyrion survive getting attacked at the Battle of the Bastards, how did Jon survive the Battle at the Wall/Hardhome). This one just has a little more.

Tokyo Ghoul Supremacist

Oh no…we’ve triggered Sean😔

Meri Gjelaj

Standing by what you say when what you say makes zero sense is not something that can be stood on

Sean Carroll

I want to know how long you’ve been drafting this essay in your notes app LMAO

Meri Gjelaj

Even I with my outspoken comments wouldn’t call this episode trash, but it certainly is a complete writing mess

Sean Carroll

You being triggered by the fact that Jon dodged death however many times during the battle just makes no sense lol he’s the main character in a fantasy show if you forgot…the lord of light could’ve easily been protecting him throughout the battle…

Meri Gjelaj

Sansa did nothing wrong????? Explain

Sean Carroll

That is truly wild

Sean Carroll

Meri defending Octavia ridiculousness, what else is new

Sean Carroll

for once I’m on Caraxes side, octavia really needs to go to sleep and avoid these conversations, she hasn’t got the mettle for it.

Sean Carroll

Sean you wouldn’t be smart enough to zigzag in that situation either…let’s be real here

Meri Gjelaj

That’s reasonable, I’m actually surprised you gave it 7.5, would expect a 6 lol. Despite the braindead moments it definitely was an achievement for television in terms of direction, cinematography, etc, can’t take that away from it. Shame the story beneath it is brittle.

ssj4rit

SHSJSHDHSJWKWOWOW

Meri Gjelaj

Nah McKay dropped the ball and so did jack on that Sansa defending. Carter and cannon the goats for calling her out

Sean Carroll

I laughed out loud at your reply Mitch because I know you have a brain and wouldn’t say that being serious haha

Sean Carroll

Yea but he has blog posts literally saying he saw this last seasons episodes and they made him cry they were so good. And was on set for season 2 and after. He knew the plans for this season and helped the writers. His blog posts were all fairly postive besides a few smaller critiques he already called out pretty plainly. We will have to wait and see. I think this weird hinting that he has been doing the last week is just horrible for him, the fandom, and the show. If he has problems he should make them clear. He’s literally a EP. All he is doing is breeding toxicity when we literally don’t know what his opinion is. He will def explain some of his writing complaints further but people running around slandering every aspect of the show now under the guise of “grrm hates it” which is just a misinformed and disingenuous. Grrm also has a ton of history with a show that’s already finished where he dealt with poor showrunners which could be the butt of a lot of his hate towards Hollywood

Shadow

FACTS THE DEFENCE OF SANSA IS BRAINLESS

Sean Carroll

https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2F63t4u3eyc2wa1.jpeg

Bellamy Blake

Best ep of the series is either 4x10, 4x9 or2x9 This one falls inside the top 20 in my books

Sean Carroll

Great depiction of war, but Jon’s survival was illogical

Sean Carroll

He gets better???????? Are you kidding me

Sean Carroll

Only good thing this season was literally Jon, the rest was poor/bad

Sean Carroll

THE GREATEST TV/MOVIE BATTLE OF ALL TIME.

Brett

Breaking bad, better call Saul, aot, lord of the rings, empire strikes back, the dark knight. These are a couple of examples of 9.9/10 rated episodes/shows/movies in my opinion

Sean Carroll

Yep but you’re not allowed to say things like that or you’ll be called a women hater who doesn’t understand Sansa’s feelings

Sean Carroll

Look I like jack a lot but how is he even attempting to defend Sansa in this situation?

Sean Carroll

Yeah that’s true, the issue is Sansa’s writing is an entire season thing, a lot of the issues in seasons 7 and 8 are more compacted into a few episodes. Sansa has been like this since episode 4 of the season

Sean Carroll

Oh I think you'll easily find worse in 7 and 8.

Paul Durbin

Negatives: This episode only gets a 7.5 due to the music, the cinematography and some of the iconic scenes, the rest of the episode is a writing mess. Dany: Tyrion starts off by saying the city is on the rise, well considering all of that development has happened offscreen we wouldn’t know. From danys perspective Tyrion has completely failed in his mission while she has been gone. I wonder how she will punish him for his failure… oh wait…hAnD oF tHe QuEeN Finally to end the mereen storyline that’s been built up for three/four seasons we have Dany end this entire storyline in the space of 5 minutes…. Really? That’s all we get? I hate the mereen storyline in general for many reasons but given that it is a central storyline that needs a conclusion, the conclusion needs to be spread out over a longer time period, why wasn’t season 6 trimmed down a bit so that we could get a 15-20 minute conclusion to this arc in episode 8, there is a lot of stuff in this season that could have been cut down. The whole point of the masters attacking Dany makes no sense anyway, either 1. They leave her to her devices and she goes off to Westeros and then you just reintroduce your slave ways again or 2. Just bring the sons of the harpy back to the city to cause chaos, given that they can out stealth the unsullied and burn danys ships offscreen they should be plenty able to do any damage the masters want. This writing surrounding the masters is so poorly done because their actions don’t make sense. Dany goes off on dragon to burn what looks to be 1 ship? Why didn’t she burn more to absolutely devastate the masters, after she destroys one ship the masters decide to give up… why the hell did they decide to attack anyway??? God this storyline makes me lose brain cells. Also one thing that really annoys me is how viserion and rhaegal were locked away for 2 seasons doing nothing and then in this episode they suddenly are able to burst out of their captivity?? This is just so poorly done but I guess most people will ignore it because “oh cool 3 dragons together in the sky, THIS SHOW IS SO PEAK”. Battle of the bastards 1. Look.. I know rickon is a kid and terrified but adrenaline which heightens the mind and senses has to kick in, why the hell didn’t he zigzag to avoid ramsays arrows 2. Jon charging into the middle of the battlefield literally is the dumbest thing he has ever done. He fell right into ramsays trap that Sansa warned him about. Even if he made it to rickon in time don’t you think Ramsay would have shot an arrow at the exact moment to kill Jon? Yes obviously he would. Ramsay masterfully manipulated Jon into stupidity. 3. No matter how cool some scenes look and how iconic they are the absolute devolvement of logic in this battle is mind blowing. Jon falls off his horse in a way that should have resulted in broken bones, but nah. Jon is then able to survive horse charging at him from both in front and behind him, there is no conceivable way Jon could survive this chaos. Jon is then able to surivive a constantly chaotic scene where everything around him is insane. He even has time to stand around after his teammate dies. Jon is able to survive 8.. yes.. 8 arrow barrages despite some of them literally being shown to land in his area, but Jon perfectly manoeuvres himself to avoid them 🤦‍♂️. 4. Next we move onto the pincer attack by Ramsay, Jon gets both trampled and smothered alive but somehow, through the magical power of plot armour is not only able to survive but pull himself up and out… this makes absolutely no sense. Jon has survived like 11-13 moments of death in 5 minutes alone. Game of thrones has truly lost its way from being a show about no one being safe to a show where plot armour is now in effect, and sadly this isn’t even the worst of it. 5. Why wasn’t the giant given a weapon to fight back against the pincer move, leaving him open to attack is literally putting your most useful soldier in danger. The vale: Deep breath…. SANSA IS ABSOLUTELY INDEFENSIBLE THIS SEASON AND I REFUSE TO HEAR ANY ARGUMENT TO THE CONTRARY. Everyone has said to me “oh Sansa can’t trust little finger” I’ve been hearing this all season.. and yet she literally gets little finger to arrive to join in the battle… so what do these people have to say now??? Look, first and foremost Sansa was a great character in the first 5 seasons and I rooted for her.. but season 6 is the beginning of her character decline. All season she has known that a battle with Ramsay is on the horizon to not only return to her home but to once again retake the north and allow things to go back to the way they once were. Telling the other houses that the vale are on your side is also a great way of getting them keen to join in the fight which would just result in more soldiers fighting anyway, it’s a literal win win. The fact she complains all season to Jon about needing a larger army and then at the last minute decides to get that army.. without telling Jon about it is absolutely indefensible. She put the entire northern operation at risk and was the sole reason that hundreds if not thousands of men died, simply because she has feelings that she doesn’t want to make feel worse. Fuck off. The logical conclusion now, that I’ve repeated all season is to have the truth about Lysas death revealed to the vale and have little finger executed. That way the vale are now on our team without little finger being in the way. Having the vale brought in to “save the day” is just pathetic attempt to have high stakes for the battle when we know the vale was always going to come in the end. 1. The stakes of the battle with the vale there would be zero since Ramsay would be doomed and 2. The stakes of the battle are superficial as we know the vale is coming. This entire storyline regarding Sansa and the vale is genuinely a contender for top 5 worst moments in got from my point of view but I’ll have to rewatch the garbage of seasons 7 and 8 to determine that result.

Sean Carroll

No, rings of power is absolute dogshit dude, the lore is ruined along with shitty costumes and writing. Character's butchered to hell.

Nasty

Sansa fumbled the fight not Jon

SirCatelot

Honest question: Have you EVER seen something that was a 9.9 or 10 in your opinion?

naopou

Im livid about cb but that’s kinda spoilery if they ever watch😂 (it’s ok i know it’s not gonna happen but ong it would be hilarious content)

Bellamy Blake

Also I will never get over the fact that C and B never happened. 😂

naopou

LOL the geks would be in the trenches if they actually watched it.. but actually my friend told me that the books make the show make much more sense. So I think the show just didn't properly introduce some of the more complex storypoints at the end.

naopou

Nope I think it’s the writers he’s pissed with, not HBO. He’s been cryptically hinting at it since his blog complaining about writers wanting to make changes to book adaptations.

Arctic_stark

ill be waiting

Bellaa

But that’s what makes it fun 😂 a show where the writing is so insane, you have no choice but to enjoy the ride and there’s no need to worry about the writing being realistic 😆 you can just enjoy the daily struggle between the bad choices these kids are forced to make. But I have to give the show some credit. A lot of stuff that happens in the later season is actually hinted at in the first seasons. There are many Easter eggs that people miss. They planted seeds and I appreciated that. It’s much more than I expected out of a cw show.

Bellamy Blake

Please NO!! You legit need to be on drugs to understand the later seasons 😂😂😂

naopou

BOTH Jon and Sansa fumbled and got a lot of people killed unnecessarily... Stop making them out to be these perfectly logical characters when they are NOT

naopou

Ok…… I will make a positives comment and a negatives comment My rating for this episode is 7.5/10. Positives: 1.First and foremost this episode looks absolutely incredible, arguably the best looking episode in the series, the music choices are perfect which allows you to feel the emotion of every scene. 2. The meeting prior to the battle is handled very well and makes us hate Ramsay even more, a fantastic first meeting between the two bastards. 3. The calm before the storm with each army looking at each other and the flayed men in the field puts an amazingly depressing tone on this scene. Ramsays game with Rickon is another reason for us to hate Ramsay even more. Despite the negative of rickon not zigzagging which I’ll get into. 4. The scene with Jon standing down all the horses is arguably the most iconic shot of game of thrones alongside the night king raising the dead in hardhome, I’d give it to the hardhome scene though personally. 5. Jon beating Ramsay to a pulp is incredibly satisfying and Ramsay being eaten by his own dogs is the chefs kiss to end it. Now onto the negatives

Sean Carroll

Wow there are some strong opinions. Look it’s not amazing but it’s a decent show and it’s only LOTR content we’re going to get from this part of the lore. And FYI, Tolkien would hate the Peter Jackson trilogy too, that shouldn’t stop you from trying an adaptation. GRRM doesn’t like HotD anymore and I don’t think anyone here is going to stop watching it.

Arctic_stark

idk what war is going on in the comments this time but idgaf!! i can’t wait to watch this with 6x10 to fully embrace the chaos

kimwa

Sansa’s actions were stupid in season eight. Not here. She had no idea LF was ever going to come and it was her one trump card she chose to keep in her back pocket for those reasons.

Dani G

She did try to reason with him, lmao. She literally told him not to let his emotions run him and fall into Ramsay’s trap and to stay sharp. Jon failed.

Dani G

Just sitting here praying for episode 10 to drop today 🙏 😫

Travis Michael

You guys should watch the behind the scenes for this episode they get into detail about how this was made 🙏

Renaldo Allard

Ep 10 would complete my Friday

Ant just watching

John snow is the best swordsman alive rite now who can beat him in combat everyone that could is dead and Jamie lost a hand so hands down he’s the best

Renaldo Allard

eh, i dont think its that bad, i like season 2 first episode, be it lore acurate or not

Chrisiyyi

Told ya John snow carried the whole show he really is a fan favorite

Renaldo Allard

the shield Jon uses at the end is a Mormont shield, one of Lyannas 60 men ended up making a huge difference

A.B

If John had an equal amount of men he would of been strategic but his rage definitely got the better of him but in the books he’s an amazing tactician and strategist truly an amazing character and he gets better 2 more seasons boys ‼️

Renaldo Allard

They carved acctual paths for the horses to run through so they don’t hit any of the cast truly an amazing scene 🎬

Renaldo Allard

John getting stepped on and covered by bodies barley breathing ‼️ this is war ‼️ put respect on the legends who survive multiple wars shoutout Ned stark rob john snow black fish so many amazing legendary war veterans

Renaldo Allard

This is war realistic scenes ‼️ chaos people getting killed left and rite arrows coming down on your head ‼️ trying to survive ‼️ this is the greatest episode of the series

Renaldo Allard

oh no lol not you and thank you but im referring to the one about theon.

Philbo

If you’re referring to my comment, someone was making fun of your criticism. I replied to them and they deleted their comment.

ssj4rit

She whipped him a up a little smoothie to get him through the battle but he was being a little stubborn about drinking it

Bellamy Blake

Thank you shadow gonna go read it right now

Jessica

It was sarcasm. Fantastic analysis tho I pretty much agree with everything you said .

Mitch

Not sure if this has been mentioned in the comments, but the shield Jon used had the sigil from Bear Island, which means at least 1 of the 62 warriors given by Lady Mormont actually survived long enough to breach the walls with Jon.

Soul brother9

oh brother

JJ

Rings of Power is not something that we should acknowledge.

danidelight

The amount of completely illogical Sansa defending is reaching Cersei stan levels in here. I'm an OG Sansa defender and this is the episode where she starts to become completely insufferable. Her not telling John about the knights of the Vale is wrong but understandable if it's explained as a consequence of her experience in Kings Landing where everyone is using her and lying to her, so she doesn't trust anyone. Her incredibly stupid speech in the tent cannot be justified in any way. Can you imagine how frustrating it would be for John to listen to her rant about how he should listen to her, then when you ask her what she thinks is best she just goes "I don't know, just don't do what Ramsay wants." You guys gotta explain to me how she was cooking there cause I'm not smelling any food in that kitchen.

Nepenthe

SHIT I LOVE THIS EPISODE OMG. Alright time to watch this reaction.

༒ dianna ༒

Same amount of arrows he fired at Rick on minus one…..Jon went ahead and landed the impact for him. By Ramsey! You lil twazzer

The Emerald Duchess

No the Iliad was written by Homer. The screenplay for “Troy” the movie was written by David Benioff. But fair, fuck D&D.

Chris Sanford

A thing can be two things HNadR🙏🏻

Meri Gjelaj

People who are not blinded by "oh but it's freaking GAME OF THRONES!" obviously can @merigjelaj And this is just the start of it. There's a handful of stupidity waiting down the line. Oh wait, I meant there's only a handful of good moments down the line. A HANDFUL 🙂 *Alexa, play "way down we go"* 🎶☠️

HNadR

If you enjoy big debates in the comments, then we should really start The 100 😈

Bellamy Blake

RAWWWWW🦅🦅⚔️

Meri Gjelaj

🐺

Meri Gjelaj

It’s on his blog. But he keeps being vague with it(like cmon just spill it dude what are doing). I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s about to rip into HBO mainly as he thought 10 episodes a season was barely enough so

Shadow

Well you kinda can…hope this helps!!

Meri Gjelaj

so excited for the next episode! one of my favorites based off soundtrack aloneee

sha superrr

A girl loves mckay

Jessica

When did he write this and what did I miss??

Jessica

Not you specifically but people act like what she said wasn’t obvious which it was….me saying it’s obvious is not saying she shouldn’t talk. People think she gave Jon the greatest advice ever

Caraxes🐐DT

Yeah, that’s true. I’m not a fan of the “off-screen” type of things, but in this situation, I think I would apply it.

Abogaymer

HOUSE MERI

Ophelia

I agree with her feeling ashamed about the Littlefinger stuff. I felt at one point Sansa is trying to implement what Cersei told her about using what’s between her legs. She maybe thought she was already doing that in S5 but got thrown off when Baelish sold her to the boltons. She thought he wanted to marry her in S5. Now she prob still senses his attachment to her, but I can understand how she has doubts about what she can actually make him do. This is a mindset and strategy that I can’t imagine she would be comfortable discussing with her brother lol I Hope my rambling makes sense

Bellamy Blake

who said it was so smart?

Jules

You being hella weird for no reason so gone bout yo day please 🤣

Caraxes🐐DT

No that’s not what I’m implying at all lol but to act like what she was saying was so smart is what I’m talking about…not every man is like that weirdo but anyway I’m done cuz you just talking ✌🏾

Caraxes🐐DT

I’m sorry Caraxes😔

Meri Gjelaj

saying what she say was obvious is implying she should’ve stayed quiet but yeah I’m slow 🤭

Jules

Aye I never said LF loved her lol and me saying he’s obsessed with her don’t mean he couldn’t harm her which he obviously did so I don’t get what you saying at this point…who said anything about trusting him? She still asked for help even if she didn’t trust him lmfao my lord and savior Jon snow? Ok now you just talking out your ass ✌🏾

Caraxes🐐DT

The problem is it would take longer to set that up in the story and the show runners are trying to wrap it all up 😭

Bellamy Blake

im alittle confused what your comment is referring to? lol

Philbo

And I have no idea why they made it seem like so much time had passed from when she sent the raven to the army showing up, she probably had zero idea if they got it and were coming? It seems like she new by her "die tonight" comment, but I've always also been under the impression that she feels ashamed about her experiences with LF and knows Jon wouldn't allow him near her, so realizes it's best to keep that card close to her chest like LF himself would do if she wants an upper hand, that she is desperate for and knows they need. She also had ridden away by the time Ramsey said the "7 days" thing so Jon must have told her? Or D2 just kinda forgot ...

Lady Stoneheart (UnCat)

Nobody even talking to you wym we? Lmao stop being weird like I care what you saying 🤣🤣

Caraxes🐐DT

omg you’re so right so obsessed would her I would do anything!!!!! 😂 even get her SA’d for the greater good and completely destroy her family because he loves her so much 🥹 it’s so romantic. acting like you can trust little finger when you’ve seen the show is 🚩 but of course it’s easier to act like it’s true to defend your lord and savior jon snow 🫡

Jules

Of course that’s what it all boils down to lol no clue why I even commented on yo stuff cuz that was obvious as well 🤣

Caraxes🐐DT

Uh oh…now we’ve angered the dragon😔

Meri Gjelaj

Nobody said anything about woman needing to be quiet that’s just you being slow…the point is she said something obvious lmfao

Caraxes🐐DT

Leo it’s sarcasm buddy🙏🏻

Meri Gjelaj

using men just like they used her queen behavior if you ask me 👑

Jules

They some weirdos fr

Caraxes🐐DT

You put it perfectly. They did drop little hints but also made the whole thing vague, probably for the surprise element and also because they can’t write like George.

Bellamy Blake

Your username tells me all I need to know about you 🥰

Meri Gjelaj

Well I didn’t know…

Caraxes🐐DT

“what she said was so obvious” while defending the man that did the obvious thing 😂 im out i’m sorry i need a bit more media literacy instead of the usual “women stay quiet - men war good”

Jules

LMFAOOOOOOOOOOO Octavia ily queen

Meri Gjelaj

Sansa was a genius 🤡

Leo

You coulda liked your own comment for all I know so that was pointless also I don’t care to put you on a happy or bad mood lol I don’t care at all so ion know why you would think randomly talking about daemon would do anything for me but look at you weird 🥴

Caraxes🐐DT

I think Mitch is being sarcastic my guy…

Meri Gjelaj

“Too much writing” yeah, I just wrote a full-length analysis, and your counterpoint was “you’re just a hater” and “Sansa is a genius.” Shouldn’t even reply in the first place if you’re not willing to put out some good points of conversation. Edit: Sorry if you were being sarcastic, Mitch. I just wanted to share my ideal resolution of the whole situation, and reading someone saying that as a counterpoint makes me angry, lol.

Abogaymer

It's very poorly executed, but on my 10th rewatch 😂 I finally saw how they tried to do the Sansa POV. It is not until the moment right before they show her looking at the Raven cages when she realizes they NEED LFs offer. She is supposed to be caught up on so much rage and contempt against LF that she barely even listens to his Vale Army information. She focuses on the Blackfish news, and gathering Northmen because she is looking for every opportunity to finally do something for herself and not rely on shady, unreliable characters. Then after the Blackfish declines, and Glovers and other houses decline is when she fully realizes she HAS to rely on LFs proposal, which is exactly what he himself is relying on. They did a much better job earlier on like with the Rob storyline of weaving these incidences into the narrative, so leading up to the outcome it's clearer. Sansa was supposed to be GRADUALLY understanding the stakes and what options were actually available to her, while conflicted with rage from his betrayal, clouding her judgements. To sum: D2 should have left the legit novelist to dialogue this arc.

Lady Stoneheart (UnCat)

Why do yall keep saying she don’t know if he will show up? Lmfao that’s a dumb argument the man is obsessed with her snd of course yall play the what if games when it comes to her telling Jon eh im done you got it 🥴

Caraxes🐐DT

Yeah it's nowhere near the top plus the battle is highly unrealistic, still entertaining of course.

Nasty

She definitely not a genius for that lol I don’t see how she’s justified in not telling him either??

Caraxes🐐DT

I’m not the only one somebody liked my comment 🤓 also you wanna put me in a bad mood so I will let out what I’ve been holding in…I’m sorry Caraxes but Damon is a loser manchild 🫡

Bellamy Blake

So your answer is I don’t know how groomer relationships work? Lmfao yea sure you the only one that know how it works huh? Wow

Caraxes🐐DT

Because she was desperate at the end. Why tell Jon when she doesn’t even know if they will show up so he’s better off not trying to consider them for his strategy. AND what if Jon says no it’s too risky? You wanted a whole convo where she’s like “ well I’m banking on his weird little horny thing for me looking like my mom..” and Jon’s just like “good plan!” 👍

Bellamy Blake

But she still asked for his help no?

Caraxes🐐DT

They said it would be at least 3 weeks after they uploaded their end to og Naruto. It’s been 2 weeks since then so at least another week.

Mitch

Dude so if you saying all this why the hell did she ask for his help at all? You saying he’s manipulative and all that but at the end of the day she still asked for his help we literally only saying she coulda told Jon why is that so confusing to you?

Caraxes🐐DT

If she's so traumatized that she can't make a single good decision why is she even around council meetings, she should be like Theon letting the more fit people do their shit and not be smug like she knows what to do but doesn't

Nanashi

If I heard that shit in a battle strategy meeting I'd lose my shit, she can't be serious

Nanashi

But even with you saying all this she literally still asked the man that sold her off to people for help lol so why not tell Jon about it?

Caraxes🐐DT

Too much writing, you’re just a hater. Sansa was a genuis for not warning Jon and she’s perfectly justified.

Mitch

She also cost a bunch of men they lives lol if she told Jon about the vale then he coulda waited and more men would be alive but nope

Caraxes🐐DT

Dialogue wise, yes, cinematography wise is where the 9.9 comes in. Sometimes people can appreciate all, for one aspect. I personally tuned out during the dialogue scenes, but the rest is 🐐

Lady Stoneheart (UnCat)

unfortunately bc they could've done great character development with sansa's character. they did my girl dirty

Amna 🍉

Because you don’t understand how grooming relationships work Caraxes. Surprisingly this is one thing the show actually gets right. It’s a cycle of confusion.

Bellamy Blake

"You can't criticize plot armor because it's a fictional show" wow great arguments there lmao

Nanashi

This episode was just great, the most well-done battle I have ever seen. The tension is through the roof, and the delivery is just from another world. No other battle can compare with this one—peak “Game of Thrones.” That said, let’s talk about the “situation” that put Jon into that position in the first place. Everyone defending Sansa and her “little” secret is just delusional. The whole situation is so bizarre and unnecessary, leaving Sansa looking either like a fool or a power-grabbing woman. Here’s why: The Vale army had only three possible intentions: 1. Help Jon capture the North from the Boltons, like they did, finally breaking their oath to the crown. 2. Slay the Bolton army and then finish off what remains of Jon’s, with the intention of delivering the North to Littlefinger and keeping his word to Cersei. The problem is, the second option is only possible with Sansa’s approval. There’s no viable way for Littlefinger to rule the North alone because he simply wouldn’t have the legitimacy, and the Vale army wouldn’t have a chance of retaining a rebellious North in the winter. It would be a Napoleon-in-Moscow type of situation, and he knows that. 3. Sansa betraying her brother in favor of keeping the North for herself. The problem with this option is that there is just that one scene where Littlefinger remarks to Sansa that she doesn’t have an army—she has JON’S army—and they aren’t brothers; they are HALF brothers. That’s it. There’s no solid foundation. Given Sansa’s history with Littlefinger, it would come off as odd at best that she betrayed Jon in favor of Petyr. Now let’s analyze what the show didn’t even take into account: Moat Cailin. Literally, the gate to the North gets bypassed by a whole army without resistance or notice to Winterfell. The show could have easily fixed these issues by following everything exactly as it happened, with the key difference being Sansa telling Jon about the Vale army. Ramsay hearing about Moat Cailin being under sige by the Vale would then gamble against his odds, forcing a battle against Jon just to turn around and take shelter in Winterfell while the knights of the Vale freeze to death in the upcoming winter. With that premise, the clash between Jon and Sansa would make perfect sense. Sansa advises Jon that they need more men and should wait for Littlefinger’s aid. Meanwhile, Jon is under pressure—not only from Ramsay, who is directing his army to battle, but also because he’s relying on Littlefinger’s help. However, there’s doubt surrounding Littlefinger, both due to his own reputation and the situation at Moat Cailin. Would they make it in time? That’s when Jon tells Sansa, ‘It’s not enough men, but it’s what we have".

Abogaymer

Imagine if Theon was trying to sabotage everything all the time, his character wouldn't be as great as it is

Nanashi

These guys blaming jon to justify Sansa stupidness 🤭

Leo

Can't yall put yourselves in this situation and just realize how stupid all of Sansa's actions are? Almost dooming the fate of their family and maybe even the realm because of emotional tantrums and grudges? The people that come out on top in GoT's world are the ones who can stand on top of their traumas to do what has to be done, if not you die, plain and simple. They won despite Sansa's antics.

Nanashi

I love how she triggers you guys so much LMAOO

Meri Gjelaj

They still won though…

Meri Gjelaj

She was literally saying the most obvious stuff lmao and the most important thing she could tell him she didn’t even attempt to…there is no excuse for her to not tell Jon about the vale lol it was always in her back pocket and how desperate LF seems to be for her idk how somebody could try to argue she didn’t know he would help

Caraxes🐐DT

me too…

Tia Hulse

Bro the women will come hunting for you if you talk about Sansa's ridiculous actions😭

Nanashi

ZOZOBRA 🔥🔥 love that he is a fellow Santa Fean and respects the tradition. TONIGHT WE BURN HIM.

emma.bean

Yes might be new to you guys but some people wake up to hate lol

Caraxes🐐DT

Prob today. They watch both yesterday and Carter rushed to get ep9 out for us. They haven't said for sure though.

Paul Durbin

That's shit writing bruh accept it

Nanashi

Nice of her to be smug after almost jeopardizing the whole thing by herself

Nanashi

Jack are you guys watching the r+l=j video as well?

Caraxes🐐DT

Honestly yeah

Nanashi

As a director sure but as a show runner he was ass lol he even left because hbo didn’t wanna promote his wife basically

Caraxes🐐DT

None of what you saying makes sense considering she went to Jon to be safe lol if she didn’t trust him why would she go to the wall for him?? If being her sibling is not enough for her to trust him why did she go to him for help? Don’t see how not telling Jon he had more help is realistic especially if she went to little finger regardless and asked for help so why not just tell Jon beforehand? That’s one of the dumbest things she did in the entire show

Caraxes🐐DT

Nah, maybe production wise, cinematography yeah, its dramatic monents are off the roof but best oat nah

Nanashi

They needed more time but there is no time because Rickon is Ramsey captive. So, jon had to hurry.

Leo

Noooo I❤️movies&tv I corrected you on the watchers on the wall ep too. Kits ankle was healed enough by then, all the fighting in that episode was him. The director said “He worked really hard. He was doing weeks of fight choreography and rehearsals. After three seasons, it was like letting him out of the cage for the first time. We’ve seen his potential, little glimpses of what he’s capable of. But it was like suddenly unleashing the beast.” Kit prefers to do things himself and will avoid using a stunt double any time he can. In another interview, the stunt coordinator said this about kit “Kit’s doing most of it himself,” Irlam said. “He’s doing all the fighting, he moves really well. He’s great.”

emma.bean

What’re you talking about? 😂

Jackson Carter

It’s soooo good

Jackson Carter

In my own personal opinion, please no

Jackson Carter

🤷‍♂️😔

Jackson Carter

That’s epic asf

Jackson Carter

Maybe as a bow but as a whole GoT has better dragon scenes than HotD so far.

Alex

The foreshadowing is all right here. I’ll keep saying till I’m blue in the face🗣️rewatch this scene people https://youtu.be/UTuaonjAULo?si=mx_BwMzr8_1Pd-3m

Bellamy Blake

This is true. Jon is far from perfect. They needed more time to come up with a true strategy. They lost so many unnecessary lives because Jon underestimated Ramsay

Jenny D

Oh I agree, I think the earlier seasons were so refreshing because there were no major instances that I can recall that I had to suspend my belief on. Everything was detailed and meticulous which is was set GOT apart from other fantasy series. The show gradually became a game of Starks lol where having epic gotcha moments became more important than reason. And hey I mean it worked, this episode is regarded as the best episode of got history. This ep is in the top for me as well because of the cinematography, music, choreography, acting, etc. A lot of fans though see cool fighting and forget about the dumb decisions that occur.

bateman bookworm

Keep cooking KING👑

Amna 🍉

I firmly believe that even if Sansa got the vale on their side early on, LF's shady ass would've pulled something last minute like showing up late lol. He's just not trustworthy at all

Amna 🍉

😏

McKay Carter

Ya they def created a frustrating situation there but Jon ain’t perfect either he literally cut her off when she tried to give him ideas earlier in the season. He only stopped to listen to her the very night before the battle after she got all worked up about him not listening to her

Bellamy Blake

“I do not look forward to other posts I need to write, about everything that’s gone wrong with HOUSE OF THE DRAGON… but I need to do that too, and I will.   Not today, though.  TODAY is Zozobra’s day, when we turn away from gloom.” -GRRM. Ya'll he hates Ryan Condal and Sarah Hess💀💀

Amna 🍉

He probably preferred to wait. If Jon and Rickon were both killed than Sansa would be in charge. He believed he could manipulate her better if she was alone.

I❤️movies&tvshows

There is another scene later on he was also injured in real life and couldn’t fight himself. After rewatching multiple times you can notice a difference in the style used in those two episodes. Not that one is better than the other there are just slight differences.

I❤️movies&tvshows

I don’t think she considered them a real option for their army until she was absolutely desperate. Trusting Baelish came with too much risk until she had no other option. She really wanted her uncle to come through. But Baelish would have made an excuse to show up late with those soldiers no matter what It’s all foreshadowed in season5, episode 6 in a convo between Cersei and Baelish. but most people conveniently forget. Hope this helps.

Bellamy Blake

Mckay COOKED by being a Sansa stan😌😌

Amna 🍉

In the watchers on the wall it wasn’t Kit Harrington fighting. He broke his ankle and couldn’t film the fighting in that scene. It was his stunt double fighting. Not to take anything away from Kit he is an amazing fighter.

I❤️movies&tvshows

I do agree Sansa could have let Jon know. I feel like this shows how disjointed their relationship is. I understand she's been through a lot, but she could have told him that she had more people to lend to the army.

Jenny D

Also the fact that Drogon is the child of Syrax and Seasmoke. When GOT came out Drogon was Dreamfyres child. The writers announced Season 2 HOTD they decided to change the parentage of Danerys dragons to Syrax and Seasmoke. Ridiculous!

I❤️movies&tvshows

😏

McKay Carter

Knowing how much they love LOTR, I don't see them enjoying ROP one bit.

Paul Durbin

It’s very similar to Daemons scene fighting the crab feeder in S1 HOTD. As far as the way it was shot; following Daemon similar to following Jon.

I❤️movies&tvshows

I love this show so much 🥲

McKay Carter

haven’t even started the reaction but sapochnik and djawadi are the GOATS, like many others have said, the cinematography and ost this episode is absolutely stunning 😮‍💨

alexis ♡︎

guys this episode is great on a first watch, but none of it makes any sense, and everyone is out of character. ive spent years typing out how this episode makes no sense and I don’t have the energy to do it anymore, so I will point you to Blind Wave’s “Rick Reacts” where Rick lays out most of the problems of this episode. or don’t! like I said enjoy what you enjoy

JJ

literally called off work to watch this

alexis ♡︎

I miss Miguel on HOTD season 2 is not the same without him

I❤️movies&tvshows

Troy was written by Homer. Don't give that clown anything.

Paul Durbin

i know its probably not this week but can we get like a countdown or expected time of shippuden. also did yall start shippuden yet

Jacob Goldsmith

The bastard's battle was well shot but it's maybe one of the dumbest battle ever. You can see how low the writting has fallen by the end of S6 and it's not gonna be better. I can't fathom people giving this a 9,9. I get that we are happy the Starks are finally getting a win but come on, that's poorly written. Btw Sansa did noting wrong

Christophe Monnier

Side not because I just remembered, Troy was written by David Benioff, half of the writers for GoT. It also like I said has Sean Bean and Brad Pitt, as well as Orlando Bloom, Grand Maester Pycelle, Lord Commander Mormont, Mad-Eye Moody, Alicent's personal Kingsguard in season 2 Ser Rickard Thorne. Really just a goated, all-star cast.

Chris Sanford

whens ep 10

Jacob Goldsmith

Fr bro. They wanted the battle to be a sweat I guess

Brig Andrus

That’s so epic

Cannon Andrus

Well jokes on you the giant ended up saving the day

Brig Andrus

Peak!

Marlon Douglas

I love GoT batttles but just like Lord of the Rings, the fights mostly pertain to broken up messes where people are just running around mad, fending for themselves. Realistic battles would've never, infantry tactics were essential to just staying in a battle. Also annoys me how they use Cavalry in this show, you wouldn't just rush them in off the rip. Cavalry was used for covering flanks and halting momentum, not just fodder to be thrown in off the rip to die. Ya'll should watch the movie Troy with the GOAT Sean Bean and Brad Pitt sometime, perfect example of realistic style battles and military tactics. Even with all that though, this episode is still a 10/10. The camera shooting was insane, definitely top 5 battles in the show for sure. Maybe even top 5 episodes. Also one more small note, that guy is Lord Umber, Jack. Not Karstark lol.

Chris Sanford

How far ahead are you at the moment?

LeFlaneur

Wait why and how

Cannon Andrus

Huge W!!

Brig Andrus

You thought this episode was trash??

Brig Andrus

😂😂😂😂😂

Leo

They better not

Elain

“Trash” LMAOOO that was silly

Meri Gjelaj

I thought this episode was trash but I’m not here to tell anyone not to enjoy something. It definitely looked good tho

JJ

"she has human falty behaviour" and "immature" talking about sansa when it's literally jon that went off plan is crazy lol she didn't know if little finger would show so she kept her mouth shut, she didn't speak on battle plans cause she doesn't have the experience but she did know rickon was going to die, she also did know that ramsay would get under jon's skin and jon dismissed it she has her faults in the show don't get me wrong but if jon had listened to her and waited they wouldn't have lost the men and if he hadn't charged at them out of rage they wouldn't have lost the men yet it's sansa getting the shade lol jon's actions are what i would call immature and i'd say sansa was cooking 100%

Jules

People were in deep denial about the downturn the writing had taken until season 8. Anyone who spoke out about it before then got flamed and told to shut up.

Raven Sub

They Sacrificed Sansa’s character in order to have that surprise appearance moment. People can do all the reaching they want to find a realistic reason for Sansa not telling Jon but it all boils down to plot device. And we see this becoming the norm in the future.

Raven Sub

Thank you. This episode was cinema.

jrnoodles

May the geks find true enlightenment under the light of the seven

chaosisaladdahh

This episode is a cinematic masterpiece though

Jake

They would have an ACV out of rage

JulioLG

@Fatipapi both scenarios can be true at the same time considering that the director of the episode said the only note he gave to Kit Harington for that scene was that "He’s no longer a human in that moment, just an animal going at it" but the creators of the show said in the same interview that he stopped because he wanted Sansa to have the kill

Camilla

Arguably one of the best episodes of any live action shows ever.

Navri

One little detail I like is that the shield Jon picks up to block Ramsay's arrows has the sigil of House Mormont, meaning that one of the 62 men from Bear Island made it to Winterfell 💪

Christina LB

That show deserves to be ignored for the piling steam of dung that it is. Tolkien would be rolling in his grave

Scinaps

JON IS THE BEST CHARACTER IN GOT

Sarah Wevers

Battle of the Bastards is the only medieval battle I recall from school, so my history teacher must be proud of me.

BipolarKitten

No real reason to trust jon? Wow. Super.

Leo

Yep that’s why I love him too

vally

Notice how Dannys tells Drogon where to land with her finger😭🔥

Sarah Wevers

watch the rings of power season 2

nanbee

We don’t love Jon because he is smart. We love him because he is honorable and emotional.

Jsjdifjfjfjrjkeowkhdhf

No please no

Jsjdifjfjfjrjkeowkhdhf

I love the five boys but seriously why jack gotta be buzz killer annoying

Jsjdifjfjfjrjkeowkhdhf

It really just boils down to a character flaw born out of survival. Everyone she turned to for help betrayed her. Everyone she talked to conspired behind her back. She has no real reason to trust Jon beyond being a sibling. She made realistic decisions given her age and trauma. Not saying there weren't better ways to go about it.

Mike Q

Just have to say that watching it live was so crazy, I remember all the actors applauding each other and everyone being so proud. Truly an outstanding episode from every single person involved!! It’s the most praised episode and I believe the most won Emmy’s as well, a total of 6 Emmy’s for that single episode which is crazy!!

Jessica

Don’t be sorry, you’re absolutely right.

clémence

That’s why they gotta rewatch it to notice these details and appreciate it more!!

Jessica

Are the Geks planning to watch Rings of Power? The new season is out.

Arctic_stark

the horses charging towards jon, as he throws his sheath to the floor never expecting to need it again, best shot of the whole show

Caleb

No no ofc not!!

vally

Literally same. I seriously listen to this track often or any of ramins music it just hits

Jessica

Not gone lie idk why I thought you was saying Jon was only a warrior and not a commander lmao like I thought you was saying he wasn’t a good commander period because of this episode 🥴

Caraxes🐐DT

Girl the music is just 🤌🏼🤌🏼🤌🏼 I want it tattooed in my ear canal

vally

Yesss love that video!!

vally

Cannot wait for the opening scene next episode 👀 I’m ready for 🎹🎹

Jessica

I love that they ended the episode with Sansa and Ramsay. Another brilliant shot of Sansa about to walk away but slowly moves her head back and then her smile at the end hell yeah the starks are back

Jessica

I didn't knew about ratings and hype around this episode when I watched this episode for the first time but for me it is top 2 episode of GOT. Just saying.

Leo

Sansa knew Rickon was going to die! She said it before the war happened. Which is why she wasnt surprised. Also I think she didnt know if little finger would actually make it or if he would betray her again. Which is why she tells John to wait to find more forces and he says we have what we have basically. But overall amazing episode. Gives me chills when the vale ride through the bolton men and you see a shot of Tormund killing the Karstark guy while yelling! love it.

Nat Brojeni

Stannis is alive in the books, still marching on Winterfell.

BloodyBen

How does this make sense tho? She literally don’t have to tell Jon everything lol saying she don’t know him well like she’s not there with him for safety is funny tho plus Jon being in the north don’t got nothing to do with anything so I’m confused on that part

Caraxes🐐DT

If she went to him she would have to explain it all to him. Abused victims don't like talking about their abuse. She doesn't know him well and how he would react, Jon grew up in a sheltered North.

PST3

Jon standing alone pulling out his sword is probably the best fucking scene

Jessica

You know what? I think you’re right. I completely forgot his last battle against the boltons which was also just fucking stupid that he was in the front line. Stannis is still remembered as a great commander because of the effective leadership and rigid discipline. And I don’t think GRRM is going that route with stannis in the books.

vally

Cinematography was insane this episode, everything else was kinda eh. The 9.9 is purely from hype and action, if you think too much you start to think wtf is going on.

Skyz

Watching it right now and the tension after rickon gets shot is giving me chills man

Jessica

She wanted they best fighter to sit back and give orders like they wasn’t at a huge disadvantage lmao

Caraxes🐐DT

Tarly or Tywin barley give a damn about they own kids so I’m sure they woulda stayed back and gave orders like you want

Caraxes🐐DT

Because it need context as well no? Jon being one of the better fights should sit back with Davos when he’s already got so little people with him anyway? Not being dramatic but trynna call out Jon for doing this while calling stannis one of the best and he’s known for doing the same is funny to me

Caraxes🐐DT

I don’t think that Sansa even had to tell him that, he should’ve understand him itself that getting Rickon back is not likely. Idk honestly just leaves to wonder how a Tarly or Tywin would’ve acted.

vally

Inform yourself better about what and who a commander is. Because right now I don’t think that you really understand.

vally

How someone keep there head cool when their brother literally died infront of them 😂😂 and just because sansa told him we won't get rickon back, he should lose hopes on rickon? Rickon is the reason jon waged a war in the first place.

Leo

Bro why you so dramatic?😂😂 I said that in THAT battle Ramsay IS a better commander than Jon. Which is just stating a very obvious fact. That you’re even getting so worked up is just funny to me.

vally

And tell me what was Jon better way to beat him with the men he had? At that point it was no winning anyway lol Sansa coulda made Jon job way easier if instead of telling him Rickon was dead maybe tell Jon that he had extra men waiting…maybe Jon woulda told them to shoot arrows like Ramsay did and you would think he’s a better commander because of it lol

Caraxes🐐DT

Eh but she still went for his help anyway with everything you said so why wouldn’t she just tell Jon? That makes no sense on her part

Caraxes🐐DT

Hell yes!! This is an important detail 👏🏼

Jessica

Where could he give commands?? Are you saying davos a better commander because he was telling them to shoot arrows? Ramsay was better in this fight sure he was there with his people the whole time lmao Jon was split and Jon is not just a commander and trynna fault him for not just sitting back like Ramsay didn’t kill his brother in his face is hilarious. Stannis was also in the front lines in his battles so I’m confused how’s he’s one of the best by your logic lol but sure

Caraxes🐐DT

Sansa knows Little Finger's help will come with strings attached. I think she is also uncomfortable with her relationship with Little Finger and how Jon would interpret it. Also in a battle the bigger army gets the bigger share of the spoils. So realistically the Vale could ask for something significant.

PST3

I am talking about this battle. Where did he give commands? First of all for a commander it’s incredible stupid to be in the first line. It seems cowardly but the job for a commander is to command, and it means to stay in the back and give commands (like Ramsay did). Jon is my absolute favorite character but all I am saying is that in this scene he’s a warrior and he was always a warrior. What I have to say is that he’s inspiring people and that is also very important but my opinion still stands that Ramsay was a far better commander in this battle and realistically speaking Jon should be dead. Think about Tywin, Ned, Stannis of Randell Tarly. These are the best commanders in got. And while I love Jon I see him more as a fighter.

vally

I always love when it’s a longer one shot, and man this one was one of the best I’ve seen!!! Kit absolutely killed it, and Miguel👏🏼 he won an Emmy for this episode and rightfully so 🙏🏼

Jessica

There is no chance for jon to command in first place. He was trying to protect his brother. Rickon is the reason jon wage a war against boltons.

Leo

My favourite episode from season 6🙌🏾🥰

Tamara Manley

Respectfully no

R

Eh not really I mean what else could he do? Ramsay was just sitting back letting his people fight but does this mean he’s not a warrior? No lol we seen him fighting before. Jon gave orders plenty of times throughout the show so saying he’s not a good commander is big cap for no reason

Caraxes🐐DT

Also I want to point out, that Ramsay is honestly a far better commander than Jon in this battle. Jon gives no commands and Ramsay is controlling every aspect of this battle until the Vale arrives. Just shows how Jon is a warrior first and foremost and not really a commander.

vally

I don’t know if anyone already pointed out but you see that shield Jon picked up to block Ramsays Arrows? It was a Mormont shield. Meaning one of the 62 men made it till the end.

vally

Robert Baratheon showing up at Winterfell and then uhhh... the ending, is all you remember?

Paul Durbin

I guess idk if you mean you just like someone else or you dislike him. I'm curious, did he do some shit I don't know about? Lol

Paul Durbin

i love game of thrones

hollow soul

I don't notice that but I notice the floating cgi arrow 😆

Paul Durbin

Oof. Why? I'm just curious. He's been my guy since he was on McLaren with Sainz.

Paul Durbin

Where was Hot Pie when Winterhell fell?

mk

I've probably seen this episode 3 or 4 times.. I can't believe I let this evade me every time. I should be ashamed, that is a gem.

Austin

It isn’t always you rat

Cannon Andrus

Watching Cannon get emotional is quite something. No one gets out of the GOT experience unscathed.

Rhaenys Targaryen-The Queen Who Should Have Been

👩🏻‍🍳

Cannon Andrus

Field battles >>> Dragon battles

Leo

I am not Landos biggest fan 😭😭😭

Cannon Andrus

Dany and Drogon just do it for me every single time🔥 Mother of Dragonsssss

Nomaan

Groomers do tend to have influence over their victims for a while or forever.…this one thing I actually have to give credit to the writing. This very powerful man has been whispering in Sansa’s ear and stealing kisses from her for a while now. He saved her from the Lannisters. She’s a huge mess when it comes to him.

Bellamy Blake

the rewatch goes crazy, I know how the show ends. But I've completely forgot everything in between.

Nathan

Brother I've been watching the day episode 1-1 of attack on titan was posted on youtube, and I only know who Brig is LOL

Nathan

Hey, make that your headcanon. It's not like Grrrrr Martin is actually gonna finish the books. Or even just TWOW - I think we all recognise that ASOIAF is done, so we might as well write our own preferred narrative in our dreams.

NoneOfYourBeeswax

@Anna I mean like future type dreams. Not wolf dreams

Ana

his name is Jack but we all call him Jalapeno

mk

Meh... I'm a bit tired of your spoiler Seanannigans...

NoneOfYourBeeswax

I was surprised none of the guys commented on that epic one-shot tracking shot following Jon through the beginning of the battle - one of the best one-shot scenes I've ever seen.

NoneOfYourBeeswax

Or just bad writing

SirCatelot

Except there was like no archers shooting when they were surrounded by Boltons on the field? Where wun wun coulda been a lot more useful in breaking the formation. Not a single persons in this thread complained about the arrows killing him or said a weapon would change that. So idk really what you’re going on about…

Shadow

I've watched this all the way through at least 20 times, theres no way I've never noticed that. I went back and rewatched it again, and was like, "mmm idk if that's definite enough for me, but that'd be sick if it were true." So I went back and watched it again. "No that's definitely her extended index finger." That's a fucking great observation.

Paul Durbin

Yes!

NoneOfYourBeeswax

I thought he stopped because he didn’t want “his little sister to see the violence/gore”, just like he stopped reading that scroll

Fatipapi

Arya and Jon have wolf dreams in the books too! they just can’t warg on purpose

Anna

That’s spelling, not grammar 👀

Fatipapi

6x10 6x10 6x10 PLSPLSPLS

DC

yeah bro watch again, cuz if dany breathes, jack would have a problem with that, carter hasn’t said anything negative about her this season cuz they cooked with her character writing more so than season 3.

jason 𒉭

Oh for sure, he'd have been much more effective with a weapon and it was kinda stupid for him not to have one - but in the long run it wouldn't have affected the end result. There's only so much one big dude can do against two trained armies.

NoneOfYourBeeswax

What i've come to understand of the Sansa situation is that Jon didn't ask for the Vale's help and he wasn't going to accept it considering Little Finger is the one that gave Sansa to the Boltons in the first place. Jon like Ned is very much about honor. He's not going to trust someone like Little Finger to help them or have their back in war because he has ulterior motives and will turn on them in an instance just like he did Ned. No matter how progressive or forward thinking Jon is he wasn't going to take her advice and he wasn't going to trust the Vale to help at all.

safaricat

"I'm not gonna lie, I feel like the North doesn't remember squat." Spittin bars Cannon Also, let's fucking go Lando Norris

Paul Durbin

I was so nervous watching this episode reaction with y’all even though I’ve already seen this episode multiple times 😂

Eliana Ayala

Maybe watch again Nikita

EMG

Wth are you talking about? lol No one hated on her...

Nikita M

Jon letting Sansa deal with Ramsey is so good

Anna

50 IQ points? Peak Tyrion coulda lost 50 IQ points and STILL been one of the smartest people in Westeros!

NoneOfYourBeeswax

I’m honestly so bummed about wun wun man

Anna

Ramin Djawadi 10/10 for the soundtrack. Chills from the very first moments, before anything even happens!

NoneOfYourBeeswax

Alex, I'm with you. He is a badass

Leo

why did i think cannon was wearing baratheon merch lmao

shmaimeee

Idk if anyone's ever pointed out but Daenerys is pointing to the spot where Drogon lands next to her.

Nikita M

This episode is what the finale of HotD S2 should have been like. Instead we just got a trailer for S3. I doubt I'll still be around in 2 years when S3 drops; it would have been nice to at least see the opening pas de deux of the Dance of the Dragons

NoneOfYourBeeswax

the finale is the best episode of any show I've watched, so am super excited!

Dani

"You guys may not know this but I wrote this scene. " LMAO Last episode I was like wow, Carter is basically describing the entire scene in the next episode. 🤣

Nikita M

i love sansa but im sorry im with carter , like a heads up would’ve been nice , if jon wasn’t such a demon he would’ve died b4 the vale got here.

jason 𒉭

funny that one of the boys thought the dog bit Ramsay's chin! :D

NoneOfYourBeeswax

real even carter has stopped, it’s getting forced now.

jason 𒉭

Hell yeah

Brig Andrus

😁

Brig Andrus

What i loved most about this episode is the directing and cinematography, writing was mid at best Sapochnik did an amazing job directing this episode. That long uncut scene of Jon fighting, and also that shot of him struggling in the stampede felt like it was suffocating with him. I also love the parallels of that shot where Jon was finally able to get out of the stampede with Dany's mhysa scene, but where Dany's being exalted, Jon's trying to survive.

chloe

He does seem to have a habit of saying thing while his brain is still in Park.

NoneOfYourBeeswax

8

Paul Durbin

Much of the battle was based on actual mediaeval battles, including masses of soldiers being trampled/suffocated to death; the use of shield walls and polearms to encircle the enemy, and fighting atop of and from behind literal walls of corpses. Grrrrr M has his flaws as a writer, but his ability to take real historical events and weave novel narratives based on them is one of his great strengths.

NoneOfYourBeeswax

Hahaha this is great. And so it begins. No, now it ends. Have at it.

Paul Durbin

also loved "I want to cook but i don't have any ingredients" 😭

emma.bean

Miguel Sapochnik does good work. Can't argue that.

Paul Durbin

“She cooked a meal I don’t like” is hysterical 🤣🤣

Anna

Agreed

Paul Durbin

Rickon's wolf was called Shaggydog. Pretty big clue right there that his was always going to be a shaggy dog story. As for Robb - no plot armour would protect against suicide - which was essentially what Robb committed when he broke his oath to marry a foreigner. In the books that whole saga made more sense, as it was eventually made evident that the whole thing was a setup, orchestrated by Tywin Lannister and his new wife's mother.

NoneOfYourBeeswax

Hey you're right. They do all focus on one ship. I stand corrected. Seems like an opportune moment to start hurlin shit at em. (Also one of em breaks off and starts straffing) Sansa comes from the camp and then takes off in a different direction. It's not like I'm making shit up. She comes south and then takes a hard west. So... Thanks for being respectful of my innocuous observations 👍

Paul Durbin

@sauceguy Why would baelish want anything done differently than what happened? It was way more advantageous for him if “his” army came in last minute and he wouldn’t care if Jon was in danger.

Bellamy Blake

I advise you to cut back on the Copium; that stuff's addictive you know. Jon was desperate for more men, he was scraping up as many as he could. Why wouldn't he accept the help of the Knights of the Vale? Because he doesn't fully trust Littlefinger? Well Samsa was berating him for not asking her advice because she knew Ramsay better than she did - why did she not then advise Jon that she could get the Knights of the Vale to bolster his army? She also knew Littlefinger better than Jon did - and she accepted his help. So why wouldn't she let Jon accept it? Why was trusting Littlefinger ok forher but not for him? The reality is that she trusted Littlefinger more than she trusted her own brother. Oh, wait... her "half-brother" as Littlefinger pointed out the last time they met, and after which she lied to Jon for the first but not the last time. If Jon Snow allowed Ramsay to manipulate him on the battlefield, Sansa allowed Littlefinger to manipulate her (yet again) off it.

NoneOfYourBeeswax

Darn it.. definitely was a spelling error/typo cause I say it aloud correctly😭 I didn’t even notice but thank u kindly, sir. Ima fix it 💕

emma.bean

@jay for anyone who wants to watch this video, it contains spoilers for later seasons, so beware.

TheSauceGuy

Hahaha nice name change

Paul Durbin

I'm so ready

Paul Durbin

He focuses on that more than he does on Theon burning two children lol

TheSauceGuy

That'd be a good username to have with a pfp of his injured face lol

TheSauceGuy

Gonna be grammar police and say it's actually "cavalry" rather than "calvary." I'm only mentioning it because I used to say it like this when I was younger, so you unlocked a memory for me. I hope it wasn't just a typo lol.

TheSauceGuy

we need wizard giant

TheSauceGuy

probably definitely not gonna read it 😬 but hope it is fun for you!

emma.bean

Season 1 is super fast-paced while season 2 is a more modest pace but it feels super slow due to season 1. I think the characters I disliked in season 1 are more likable, or at least enjoyable to watch, in season 2. I could say the opposite for many of the characters I liked in season 1 as well lol. I've said it a million times, but it felt like it was flip-flopping characters and I felt some things progressed too quickly because of it.

TheSauceGuy

S2 E4 best dragon scene ever idc

ken

Don't even get me started on book jon😭 he's very dear to me

Amna 🍉

please

TheSauceGuy

T-3 hours until my comment. Hope you’re all ready to get mad at me again COME AT ME, I CAN HANDLE ALL OF YOU

Sean Carroll

Ew the Daenerys hate from the guy on the left is highly annoying

EMG

Or the Bolton archers could all have peppered Wun-Wun with arrows from range.

NoneOfYourBeeswax

All of the water in his body is wine

TheSauceGuy

Nah, I think he'd have kept punching him for a while lol.

TheSauceGuy

But he didn't know so... your point is..? Or are you suggesting that had Sansa informed Jon -s she should have - that Jon was gonna send a message by Raven to Ramsay saying "hold up, change of plan - we've invited the Knights of the Vale to join us in the field.. and oh, kickoff time has been change to midday. See you tomorrow then, all the best, Jon "Bastard" Snow. p.s. Don't forget not to feed your dogs!

NoneOfYourBeeswax

Jaqen*

TheSauceGuy

It doesn't have to be this way though, like I'd prefer to have more grounded fantasy shows/games. I think HotD has had problems, but it's had some great moments in terms of making a battle appear realistic. With sieges, they often built their siege equipment outside the enemy castle lol. I appreciate how HotD shows that sort of thing as well as all of the different livery/sigils.

TheSauceGuy

Imma have to disagree full heartedly

Shadow

These are just excuses to justify sansa

Leo

@TheSauceGuy. His role is pretty much the same but he is on an island with Canibals. When Rickon finally returns to the story he's gonna be the most savage and wildest. Also if Rickon dies there will be no more starks. So I feel he has a much bigger role when we see him again. Rickon also was a warg and was the only other one besides bran that had dreams. I just feel like he's not gonna die in the books. The show just killed him off because they were trying to wrap up storylines for characters.

Ana

Drogon has better dragon scenes than anythinghouse of the dragon has done so far. HotD s eason 2 was a let down for the dragons

Alex

don't be sorry

TheSauceGuy

it will be a roller coaster of emotions

TheSauceGuy

At least we get to see LF's little smirk when he arrives lmao

TheSauceGuy

I don't hate her, but they really did write her weird lol

TheSauceGuy

Jon is also super different as well lol. He's not an expert swordsman, but he plans to train to become better. He's more cunning, conflicted, and ill-tempered in the books.

TheSauceGuy

You can't change my mind. I have watched sword fighting in many movies and shows but no one attracted me with their sword fighting like him.

Leo

He might be killed, but not in this stupid way lol. Doesn't he play more of a role in the books? He is basically just a background character in the show.

TheSauceGuy

🧚🏼‍♀️✨Sean automatically loses for dropping Captain Hindsight spoilers several times in order to prove his point

Bellamy Blake

@Meri I agree. But Rickon does not have Ned's personality lol Rickon,Robb and Arya are true starks they are wolf blooded. Ned was actually the oddball out of his family being more introvert than his siblings. Robb actually is a lot like Ned's older brother Brandon. Only thing Robb got from the Tully's were his looks

Ana

He probably wouldn't have been outsmarted by him if she had spoken with LF earlier and they already had the forces of the Vale on their side lol. Even if he had, they'd still win.

TheSauceGuy

I'd have to rewatch to judge Jon's fighting. In The Watchers on the Wall, I liked Aliser and the Thenn with the axe (even though he spun around) because they used the momentum with their swings, rather than swinging hard, resetting, and swinging again.

TheSauceGuy

D&D wanted their lord of the rings Aragon riding in to save the day moment

Mitch

Sansa left Jon to die. He kept himself alive, she didn't. Jon got the ermy together to beat the Boltons, she didn't. Did Sansa bring the Knights of the Vale north to retake Winterfell? No. She left the dirty work to Jon. They both knew they needed a bigger army, but rather than tell Jon and have them wait for the support from the Vale to arrive, she spent the lives of Jon's loyal Wildlings - and the last of the giants - and for what? Sansa ALLOWED her brother to be baited rather than give him a sufficient army to foil Ramsay's games.

NoneOfYourBeeswax

So when the show is well written, its good to appreciate these details, when its poorly written because they aren't adapting someone else's work anymore, then suddenly its fiction entertainment and literally anything can happen and its fine because of that. These details matter and are why the Red Wedding happens. The attitude of just excusing rules and details established by the show itself in early seasons is exactly why we got things like "Beyond the Wall" With the teleporting turned to 100 None of what you said for Baelish defends Sansa not telling Jon. Its also impossible to ride from Winterfell to Moat Cailin and back in the time Sansa would have needed to. Something bothering or not bothering someone is irrelevant to the actual content. It is what it is regardless of how anyone feels about it. Like or dislike, Sansa is an idiot.

The night is Dank and full of Memers

Same. I love Sansa. Her story arc is fantastic IMO, and after all she’s suffered and endured, I will defend her to the ends of the earth. That girl has so much emotional fortitude.

Dani G

Kit is the best sword swinger in GOT actors. He swings the sword like he was born for it. There is grace in his fighting.

Leo

I'm a nerd, I can't help it

TheSauceGuy

Tell that to all the dragons that have fallen from the sky lol. It would be funny to see a flying snake that breathes fire though.

TheSauceGuy

Exactly. Ramsay was never going to let Rickon live.

Dani G

After Sansa not telling him of an army that would change the entire dynamic of the conflict, which would have made this entire battle not happen as it did lmao. People love to use the post hoc logic of a LATER error to justify her early and much larger error.

The night is Dank and full of Memers

I agree Ramsay probably should have killed Jon then and there but I also look at Ramsay shooting wun wun dead as further emotionally wounding Jon. All he wants to do is f with people psychologically. Then he really thought he could shoot Jon down after lmaooo

A_Daddy Daichi

Kit Harington did actually punch Iwan Rheon (Ramsay) in the face by accident while filming that beating scene. he said "I actually did punch Iwan in the face, twice, by accident, which he took really well. He was really nice about it. I had to buy him a pint after that one." lol

emma.bean

I trust him but like are we getting those books🫣🫣

Amna 🍉

He'd have needed a pretty large tree to deal with archers feathering him from extreme bowshot range. That's why trained armies always beat a rabble of barbarians who only know how to fight one and one and o whom the worn "tactics" simply means a container of tiny orange or white candies. Wun-Wun was brought to his knees by half a dozen Bolton Archers then finished off with a single bowshot to the eye.

NoneOfYourBeeswax

Sansa is not the reason those people died. Jon was the one who let his emotions get the better of him and ran right into Ramsay’s trap.

Dani G

Trust me, I’m with you, brother. As much as I love and appreciate the production, I’d also gladly trade some of the production quality for better writing, dialogue, and how/why a character would make certain choices. Like I mentioned, the writing, plot, and certain character choices haven’t been as strong, especially after season 4 as you mentioned. As for the realism thing, I'm honestly not too bothered by it since its meant to be fantasy, however they definitely couldve been done/framed better or at least handled more thoughtfully like most things in this show shouldve have lol

Enma

It’s okay GRRM will not fail her in WoW and ADoS🙏🏻

Meri Gjelaj

GET EM DANI

Amna 🍉

I feel like on the first watch, everything is better lol. On rewatch, you notice much more, and for me, my favorite characters shifted around a lot. I used to have Jon as one of my top characters (I still like him), but I'd put Stannis and Theon over him now any day. I like how Stannis stands out amongst all of the other Westerosi lords, even though his arc in the show is deeply flawed. I like how Theon's role is somewhat expanded in the show, even if he doesn't look as unrecognizable. Jon is a cool character and you like him because he tries to do the right thing, but he doesn't feel as complex.

TheSauceGuy

Sansa didn’t trust that Jon would stick to the plan and so didn’t reveal her only trump card for many reasons. 1) she didn’t know LF would actually come and couldn’t let Jon devise a plan around something that might not even happen, and 2) she knew Jon wouldn’t stick to the plan - and he didn’t, lmao. He ran right into Ramsay’s trap like she knew he would. Ramsay was banking on Jon being emotional and baited him easily into falling into his trap. Sansa understands how Ramsay works and knew Jon would be outsmarted by him.

Dani G

like in my eyes she can do no wrong but why ruin her perfectly good storyline from the books....WHAT WAS THE REASON

Amna 🍉

Mr. Sauce…have you ever considered…that it’s actually not that deep🤭🤭

Meri Gjelaj

Like why they did my girl like that lol. Still love her though

A_Daddy Daichi

Mitch and CHIEF real ones

TheSauceGuy

Their faith in the ability of a single unarmed large person to defeat two trained armies with cavalry and cadres of bowmen would have been touching were it not so comical :D

NoneOfYourBeeswax

I’m only anti Bolton🙏🏻

Meri Gjelaj

I think at least giving him a pike (or any form of melee weapon) would've made him useful. If he had a pike (there were plenty to grab around him), he could just outrange any of the Bolton men and have the height advantage to stab them and break the shield wall. It's purely due to lazy writing and/or plot convenience.

TheSauceGuy

the anti sean is crazy

TheSauceGuy

I mean, the horse didn't fall on him, so it's possible to only receive minor injuries. Some people have survived a plane crash into the side of a mountain. I think plot armor is perfectly valid to criticize in a show like this. I'm not a writer, but if I were, I'd try to write scenes that make sense AND appeal to the audience. Why did Ramsay not shoot Jon and instead choose to shoot a severely wounded giant lol? Considering the man he is, you'd think he'd want to at least take Jon with him if he expected to die.

TheSauceGuy

They're dragons; they don't operate by the laws of physics, they're powered by magic!

NoneOfYourBeeswax

man D&D absolutely hated sansa. Like first changing her perfectly good storyline from the books where she's learning a lot from Littlefinger and becoming an important player in the game. Then for some reason making her mean and doubt jon for no reason. Is like they read book 1 Sansa and stopped reading her story where her character develops. Anyways, ya'll can never make me hate THE SANSA STARK.

Amna 🍉

Oh 100%. This might be me just being delusional but I’m hoping he becomes the Lord of Winterfell and turns the North into its glorious self again. I feel like he’ll grow to be more like Ned, a true northerner. Where as Robb was a lot like his mom, had more Tully in him than the North.

Meri Gjelaj

I honestly don’t think I am. I’ve commented more on other episodes lol

Meri Gjelaj

Robb is also my fav and I just had to accept that he is not one of god’s favorites

Bellamy Blake

It's a great episode but you clearly give a "flying fuck" because you're commenting on every criticism lol

ssj4rit

I agree with most of what you said, but I'd take lower quality in some of those aspects for better writing/dialogue from seasons 5-8. On rewatch, I'd say that season 6 is better than season 5 and most of my gripes with 6 are with a few specific character decisions and plot points that don't make sense. For 5, the entire Dornish plotline is the main thing lol. Outside of that, my main gripes are with realism, but I'm very nitpicky with that because I like to be immersed. The smoke bomb shadow baby and Children of the Forest don't bother me because they are involved with magic that we don't have an understanding of as the audience.

TheSauceGuy

People who pay attention to dialogue = Sansa haters?

ssj4rit

I highly doubt Rickon is being killed in the books. Just doesn't make sense with his storyline. He's the only stark that can carry on the name. So yeah I have faith he'll survive in the books

Ana

Somehow the next episode is even better!!!

Amna 🍉

"“Our queen does love ships.” Well… she's fuckin burning em all…" Well no, she's not... if you pay close attention you will see that all three dragons attack a single ship. The Dragon Queen is just demonstrating her power. She gratefully accepts the "gift" of the rest of the fleet. As for where Sansa rides off to after leaving the meeting of the Commanders of both armies - well the obvious answer would be that she rides back to Jon's encampment, just as Ramsey undoubtedly rode back to his home base of Winterfell after the meeting. I really don't get the confusion about that; that's so nitpicky that by comparison the rest of your points are in-depth theses and cogent critiques. But at this point, is it really necessary to pull apart every plot misstep in the show? I think we all understand that is we did that we'd be writing critiques for longer than Grrrrr Martin has been writing The Winds of Winter! I think it's sufficient to say that yes, the writing has fallen off a cliff,,, but my word, the spectacle! p.s. Are you sure you're not a Sean sockpuppet? ;D

NoneOfYourBeeswax

The shot with the horses at the start of the battle is all real btw. They trained the horses to crash safely and fall over. I think it was something like 120 horses and men running right at each other.

Jed

Ofcourse

Leo

59:00 agreed Carter, there's no good reason Sansa couldn't have told Jon. It was mostly just writing convenience to have a surprise reveal. Cool episode overall though.

ssj4rit

now about this episode Not gonna lie, rewatching that seen with Sansa and Jon talking. she literally said nothing of real importance. she literally talked in a circle and gave 0 helpful advice. yes i understand sansa has been a FUCK TON of trauma but your brother is fighting a losing war, you dont need to tell him shit he already knows. luckily everything worked out in there favor in the end but that shit really irked the hell out of me.

Philbo

This episode is great but 10 clears imo!

A_Daddy Daichi

The archer that shot at Hot Pie was definitely skilled lol

TheSauceGuy

Prepare for the wall of text lol. I went to and later worked at a summer camp where I practiced archery (among other things) for ~8 years. I wouldn't call myself an EXPERT, but I'd still say that I have decent knowledge. After watching the segment from that video, I disagree with his rating and I think it being so high shows he was kind of lax with it. He says that he is only accurate to around 30 meters and also references clout archery. Clout archery is focused on stationary targets and while professional archers of this type can be reasonably accurate, you'll typically see a wider grouping. You can see this even from the point systems, which are typically scored by how many feet away from the target you were. Keep in mind that this is a stationary target being shot at and you aren't meant to reliably hit the it. The problem isn't that Ramsay hits Rickon, it's that he hits him in the heart on the first shot (while he is running) after Jon is in range AND he does so at such a great distance. Also, modern archery is a completely different thing to archery back then. Ramsay seems to be using a Penbnoscot bow. In our world, most sources seem to suggest these bows were created in the late 19th to early 20th century. I don't think this is super relevant, but it's just some background information. The design of these bows is essentially to have another bow (sometimes two) connected to the main bow to provide more power. This design was efficient in areas where high-quality wood was not common. His bow is likely more powerful than a typical recurve bow (and less than a good longbow), but it's not going to be effective at pinpoint shots on MOVING targets at those ranges. So while it seems there was some effort put in there, it's still something that requires some suspension of disbelief for me. If Ramsay didn't expect to hit the shot, that'd be entirely different lol. I honestly think Carter's immediate expectation of the dogs chasing Rickon would've been the more realistic option.

TheSauceGuy

gonna make 2 comments this is off topic but i got done rewatching your AOT reactions again recently and holy shit how far you guys have come since then is actually insane. you guys have greatly expanded your catalogue of anime and now even added on tv shows. Also cannons streams are funny as hell lol i look forward to whenever all of you guys streaming if that is the plan. you guys have easily and very quickly became my favorite reaction channel and i very much look forward to seeing what comes in the future for you guys. (Still hoping to see some horror movie reactions on the channel lol)

Philbo

Carter you’re the real goat it’s actually not Jon

Meri Gjelaj

Agreed its a 10/10 episode imo

Slizzle

Actually, the thing is, Robb was my favorite character so when I see all these other Starks having miracles going on for them it pisses me off 🫠☠️

HNadR

It's always me (Carter) lol

Studio Geck

Tyrion became so braindead after he left kings landing. My headcanon is that all the wine finally rotted his brain so he lost 50 iq points.

Mitch

I just think with everything else that you can validly criticize about the show, certain characters having “plot armor” or whatnot should be last. I mean this is a literal fantasy show at the end of the day. There are dragons and ice zombies. A guy falling off a horse and surviving without injuries just doesn’t seem that far fetched lol. But yes, I draw the line with Aryas stabbing…that was pretty insane to say the least lol

Meri Gjelaj

We do know that Jon knows about littlefinger. Since we are quoting next episode. “I thought you told me Littlefinger sold you to the Boltons” These guys I’m sure have finished 10 by now. McKay said they watched them both together earlier in one of his comments on episode 8.

I❤️movies&tvshows

Lmao I am a Naruto fan but I don't justify it's crap as well 🤣

HNadR

I thought his name was James?

Mitch

got me all 👁️🫦👁️ n shit

Camilla

How is someone with a Naruto pfp saying this😂😂 you’re not wrong tho

Micah Seer

Exactly, like yes the battle was awesome and made me feel every single emotion while watching. But at the same time it’s deeply flawed with major writing issues. Both of these things can be true. We don’t need to cope and perform mental gymnastics to pretend it’s perfect when it’s not.

Mitch

How did I forget how mind blowing this episode was from a cinematography standpoint. This is peak

Micah Seer

It's convenient to call it stupid in my opinion. But to each their own 🙂

HNadR

This is what makes Game of Thrones stand out among other live-action shows, setting a high standard for what shows can and should be. I know the writing, plot, and character choices haven't been the greatest, but the production of this show has never faltered. The quality of its visuals, the sets, the locations, the costumes, the stunt work, the music, and cgi are some of the best I've ever seen. Both this episode and the next are a testament to and culmination of these very important elements.

Enma

Not some people HNadR! Just me so far!! Although my comment did get a few likes so I guess some agree, but it actually is stupid!!

Meri Gjelaj

I agree. The Lord of light brought him back from the dead. He was protecting him during all this. The red woman believes he is the prince that was promised. Not saying she is right or wrong as that is a whole other discussion. But he definitely has a purpose even if it’s like she said it’s just for this battle.

I❤️movies&tvshows

okay sooooo that guy who's fighting tormund is not a Karstark but Jon Umber aka Smalljon. In the books, he's super loyal to the Starks and dies protecting Robb during the red wedding.

Amna 🍉

Not some people calling the term "plot armor" stupid to justify the dumb shit going on 🤣☠️ I like this show, don't get me wrong, but not enough to overlook everything. Some people may love it to the point to turn a blind eye to every single flaw of it and that's fine but that doesn't make the others obliged to do so as well. The word "plot armor" is not stupid. You know what's stupid? A girl surviving a slice and stabs to the gut by drinking some soup, a single guy dodging a thousand arrows all at once, a guy not knowing how to zig zag, a 12 ft tall giant charging in barehanded, a guy shooting everything but the person he needs dead above all etc etc. This show was loved for it's unpredictability, the "no one is save" aspect of it. And sadly, that's gone 🫠

HNadR

If we combine 4-5 peak moments from different GOT episodes that will be episode 10.

Leo

Jack and his side eyes this episode ❤️

I❤️movies&tvshows

Which one of you is typing this LOL

Meri Gjelaj

Haha Meri I just mean you're like the anti sean, responding to every comment about the criticisms😂

Studio Geck

I know he was pissy after that one 🤣

Kaylee S

The butchering of Tyrions and Jaime’s characters and their arcs is the real tragedy of this show

Kaylee S

Hot pie didn’t have skilled archers with an open field and open target on him 😔 rip Rickon

Kaylee S

Turns out Melissandre's vision in the fire was right when she saw the Bolton banners being torn down at Winterfell. She just made the mistake of assuming it was Stannis' army pulling them down!

NoneOfYourBeeswax

Also you little shits just live for the drama because I have not mentioned him once so far in this particular comment section LMAOOO

Meri Gjelaj

There is evidence of giants in several places irl. Including a small island off of California

Bellamy Blake

Heyyyyyyy Sean🥰🥰

Meri Gjelaj

WBABHSWJJWIW not the Geks noticing me✋🏻

Meri Gjelaj

Jon looks so hot I’m sorry

A_Daddy Daichi

I just walked in John Travolta confused meme. I’ll have to check out what the situation is haha

Sean Carroll

Maybe Meri vs Sean is the real final battle😂

Studio Geck

You guys are tripping; giants aren't magic - a single giant against an entire army has no chance, and it would make no difference if he was armed with a tree or an entire forest, Ramsey's archers would just stand off and put so many arrows in him he'd look like a giant porcupine. The only thing he could arm himself that would make a difference would be a dragon, but Westeros has been pretty short on dragons these past 300 years! Unrealistic expectations!

NoneOfYourBeeswax

It's a shame the writing in this show is kinda the only thing that doesn't maintain its quality. This is the first I could bear rewatching it this deep in such a long time and even now when the episodes are good in general, the writing is so much more apparent. If that doesn't matter to some people, congratulations, but others find a different kind of entertainment in the type of story in the first four seasons. There's no need to jump through hoops and defend bad writing with excuses just because it doesn't matter to you. Writing is important to me at least, but most other aspects are still peak across television so I get it, just don't get upset when people point things out. Obviously you can disagree if you truly believe so, and I hope the guys are still genuinely enjoying it as a whole. Anyways, I don't comment much so that's just one guy's periodic perspective on the whole thing so sorry for the yap and I'll leave it there.

CHIEF

I don't leave them tili they react to it. I will behave like sean if they don't react to it.

Leo

That part. Tyrion was so annoying for that

Ana

That shot of Jon from the back raising his sword as the cavalry is charging towards him gives me goosebumps. THE STARKS ARE HOME BABY. 🗣️ great reaction boys and thanks for the quick turnaround!! You knew we were starving lol

emma.bean

FINALLY IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS ONE 🎉🎉🎉

Molly

lmao the people trying to reason with why Sansa didnt tell Jon are hilarious, they wouldn't be trying this hard if Jon had died during the battle. it was a stupid decision, but thats fine this show has a lot of them. suspending your belief is key to watching any tv show lol, especially fantasy

bateman bookworm

Dogs killing Ramsey: ☠️ Brig: Good Boy! 🥰

JC

For real I’m side eyeing him😫

Hannah

Fuckass mug🙏🏻😭

Meri Gjelaj

What?? This is just a waste of time I'm not arguing on the internet for more than 10 minutes just go look at videos to further prove my point

Starkfern

and Ramsey shooting the giant instead of Jon lol, but I guess hes very unpredictable as a character

bateman bookworm

The least some of y’all can do is learn the names of the reactors you pay to watch 😭 lol “guy with the glasses” name is Jack.

A_Daddy Daichi

sorry for the long message, i find this episode very interesting and i love talking about it!! i don’t want this to be a “who’s right” cause i see both sides, i just like to defend sansa as im fond of her character :)

aubrey

Underrated moment in the episode is when Jon is breaking Ramsay’s fuckass mug in over and over AND over again but then upon seeing Sansa right when he is about to deliver what would likely be the final killing blow, decides to let her get the kill instead. Thinking in that moment that as much as he feels Ramsay has taken from him, his little sister has suffered even more losses at the hands of that vile creature ❤️‍🩹🫂

Camilla

@Chantelle Miles to be fair, while putting family first isn’t a bad trait at all and is very admirable, putting family first has continuously gotten the starks killed in the show so far haha. so jon running in with the mindset that he was going to save rickon at the cost of his own life and charging forward to do so without regard for the men behind him or what was going to happen if he did so IS evidence of a good or bad strategist or leader. in this case, imo bad. jon is very good with wildlings and the nights watch, but seems to fall short against westerosi opponents. jon is focused on the true enemy the white walkers and therefore doesn’t seem to really know how to play the game of thrones. his plan failed. sansa is a character that has been around people who play the game very well for the whole show, and people don’t take seriously because she finds herself in the position of a victim of said people for a majority of the series; but while she’s in that position she is constantly observing and learning from the people who have her captive. withholding information from jon and accepting that rickon was going to die and pushing forward with a plan that puts many people in danger/gets them killed is something she learned from ramsey, and something he himself used in the fight as she knew he would.

aubrey

rewatch this scene. He has permission from Queen Cersei. She thinks he’s there for her, Boltons thinks he’s there for them. The writing is intentionally vague but it’s not impossible. Baelish is supposed to be cunning as hell. They kept all the details out in this season as a cop out for surprise effect. Still doesn’t bother me the way it does some of you 😂 this is fiction and entertainment. You looking for a full fledged documentary? https://youtu.be/UTuaonjALo?si=fUG8k2hhIyntIW7

Bellamy Blake

SIZZLE MY DEAR I AM NOT ARGUING WITH YOU I SWEAR!!!!! My last comment was in response to Caraxes comment!!! The way the replies work on here is kind of dumb, it’s hard to understand who’s replying to who

Meri Gjelaj

This easily has to be one of the best, if not THEEEE best, episode in all of GoT including HotD it’s so well done. And it’s not in the book either (at least I don’t remember reading about it) so well done to the acting. Sansa not telling Jon about the Vale lowkey makes no sense and is the only drawback of this but idc this episode cooked all the way thru

Monte

Lesssss gooooooooo 6X9 finally

Aaron

I feel obliged to stand up for Theon when Tyrion was digging him out for mocking him when they last saw each other at Winterfell - that simply wasn't true; Theon never mocked Tyrion, in fact it was Tyrion who was mocking Theon for being Ned Stark's hostage. Thus Tyrion's descent into idiocy begins...

NoneOfYourBeeswax

I’m aware lol there’s just another comment floating around in here about where were Robbs and Rickons plot armor when they needed it and I’m like BRO shut uppppppp you sound very silly lol

Meri Gjelaj

mm interesting, ok. i just preferred season 1 HOTD and the two seasons did feel very different artistically to me, but im maybe falsely attributing that it to the fact that he left. he is a fire director tho lol

JAY

Snobby GOT fans can say whatever they went but this was one of the best episodes EVER when it came out! Lol

BreezyBri

I know, I replied this to some else’s comment, idk why it showed up as a original comment lol

Slizzle

It’s relying on “plot armor” in order to shit on every minute detail that’s so annoying lol

Meri Gjelaj

I think the point was the lord of light wanted him alive lol

Caraxes🐐DT

No fr it’s already treason they didn’t do the lore videos yet but this here idk we gotta fight or something lol

Caraxes🐐DT

We need 6x10 nowww

Jacob Goldsmith

“Plot armor” has got to be the dumbest thing that the internet has created lol

Meri Gjelaj

It’s the best episode ever…if we talking just live action imo

Caraxes🐐DT

So you need a YouTube video to point it all out for you?what’s the point then. This ain’t no real historical event 😂

Bellamy Blake

There is actually another cool youtube vid titled "Warfare Experts Rate 12 'Game Of Thrones' Scenes For Realism" (*contains spoilers for future seasons so don’t watch until you finish the show) and an archery expert reacts to this scene and explains why it is realistic and easily possible to kill someone like that. he rated the scene a 9/10 for realism. I think the highest scored scene of the ones they review lol it’s a pretty interesting watch tho!

JAY

Slizzle

It def is

Mitch

I actually think episode 10 is even better.

Darrell Henry

Not reacting to that video is a treason.

Leo

Now that you guys are finally past this episode, you HAVE TO watch "RAMSAY BOLTON: The Ultimate Kindest Man In Westeros." I don't even care if we get a reaction out of it, it's just super funny.

TheSauceGuy

Also that wasn't Baelish' plan at all lmao. He didn't want Sansa spoiled by Ramsay whatsoever. And how does someone know exactly when to show up to a battle, when they have to transport their army literally 100s of miles lmaoooo.

The night is Dank and full of Memers

Favorite parts because this episode was a BANGER: "You're going to die tomorrow, Lord Bolton. Sleep well." -Drogon's pull-up. "You haven't fed them yourself in seven days, you said it yourself." /They're loyal beasts/ "They were. Now they're starving." -Jon beating the shit out of Ramsay. -The stare down between Sansa and Ramsay when the Vale came in -Sansa's little smirk as she walks away from Ramsay getting devoured by his hounds -Jon beating the shit out of Ramsay. -The banners of Stark finally draping over the Winterfell walls again. -Jon. beating. the. shit. out. of. Ramsay. 9.9/10

Jaqen H'ghar

Evidence? Or head cannon cope? I've seen the show multiple times, read the books 5 times. The Knight's of the Vale shouldn't have even been able to access the North due to Moat Cailin (The only land access to the North) Being held by the Boltons. To quote Ned "400 Men could hold Moat Cailin against an army." That writing flaw aside (Geography is massively important in this story, until they passed the books and it suddenly wasn't. The red wedding happened because someone needed to cross a bridge, but now we can teleport an army passed the most defensible choke point in the world with no explanation) if Sansa had simply informed Jon of the situation, thousands of lives could have been saved. There is literally no reason not to tell. If the plan was to bait the Boltons to circle like that, you can STILL inform of the plan.

The night is Dank and full of Memers

Look at the comment above me, why would LF wanna betray Jon when he could just wait after the battle is over and jon is dead. I'm done with this tbh you gotta be a dnd bot. Just watch why the battle of the bastards is shit on yt and maybe you'll open your eyes

Starkfern

I agree with brig in post reaction discussion. Dude spitting facts .

Leo

Oh yea for sure that part was on point lol him being a show runner wasn’t the right choice fr

Caraxes🐐DT

Ramsay’s death gave me so much joy 😤

A_Daddy Daichi

Because IF THEY WANTED TO ATTACK JON THEY WOULDVE JUST ATTACKED. Literally what difference does it make if he accepts their help if they wanted to kill him LF easily could so Jon literally loses nothing by accepting LF support. I’m really trying to see where the risk is. Please think.

Mitch

@Chantelle Miles exactly!!

Camilla

@Euphemia same lol

A_Daddy Daichi

I have heard that he made bad decisions for HotD, but cinematically speaking, he was missed.

Bellamy Blake

Same, I know some things don’t make 100% scene in the battle but honestly the great parts outweigh it so much that I literally can’t give af about those small imperfections

Slizzle

Yes, they'd made up their minds about his death, but it could've been written much better. I'd also liked to have seen more of him and his journey rather than him being completely irrelevant. His death is basically meaningless and only serves to further Jon's plot.

TheSauceGuy

LFG!!!! This episode and the next one are my two favorite episodes of the entire series. Once again y'all have prevented me from going to bed at a decent hour. Am I mad? Nope!! lol

Marcusinmilw

@CHIEF Exactly.

TheSauceGuy

Praying to the double drop gods

Cam

Why would he believe they are really supporting them? Robb thought the Boltons were really on their side too and look how that turned out. Should a stark really take such a risk? Sansa didn’t seem to want to risk it. But maybe in the end she was desperate and hoped Baelish’s creepy fetish for her would be enough

Bellamy Blake

Imo he made horrible decisions for hotd lol if anything them rushing was the reason for season 2 but that wasn’t the writers fault.

Caraxes🐐DT

@leo exactly 🤷🏾‍♀️

A_Daddy Daichi

AND as much as i absolutely love this episode, 6x10 is even better... my king Miguel Sapochnik (directed this ep, next ep, hardhome, and a couple others to come) is chef. i even think HOTD was hurt by him leaving as co-showrunner after season 1.

JAY

Now just waiting on ep 10 and the r+l=j video 👀🙌🏾

Caraxes🐐DT

Bro is the main character and hero of the GOT. So, he can't die like that.

Leo

He was confident that Jon was going to die on the field.

Meri Gjelaj

Did Ramsay really not have a dagger or sword in case Jon got too close? At least Ramsay's death was poetic; that's what he gets for starving his dogs. Although, if I had to imagine what he'd feed them with, it'd probably be some flayed men or something lol. Honestly, Ramsay's lucky his dogs went for his jugular first.

TheSauceGuy

carter, the shots in this episode, paired with the score, also make me emotional haha. soooooo gooooood. 😭 The horse work and the battle choreo is insane. that prolonged one shot of jon in the thick of the battle 🤯 cinematic masterpiece. there is a really cool 30 minute behind the scenes video on youtube showing how they pulled this off. you guys should def check it out.

JAY

This episode is the best thing I've ever seen on television. I was so nervous! The only battle that came close to that feeling was AOT Levi vs Beast Titan! Sick and amazing at the same time.

JC

Funny how most of the highest rated episodes in GOT had Jon as the central character

Leo

Baelish would have showed up late anyway because this is a tactic he intentionally wanted to implement since season 5. Maybe pay attention to the actual show.

Bellamy Blake

but why did the guy with the glasses say the ironborn should take their “tradition” of r*ping women someplace else if they can’t do it within westeros…

Tia Hulse

Why would jon not accept thousands of men marching to support him, it still makes no sense why she couldn't even mention it, so they could debate about it. You're trying you're hardest to defend d&d they are bad writers I'm telling u 😂😂

Starkfern

The errors in writing are easily forgettable because we enjoy this battle. Many people say plot armour, writing error et., people don't care about those. That's why it is a top episode.

Leo

From writing, yes, but the challenge of good writing is creating what you want to happen with believability

CHIEF

Octavia not everyone is smart enough to understand or pick up on context clues🙏🏻

Meri Gjelaj

Jon has literally been in the nights watch the ENTIRE SERIES how tf would he know anything about LF besides maybe hearing his name once when he was younger. Realistically he has zero clue who that is so it makes no sense that he wouldn’t accept his help.

Mitch

🥱🥱🥱

Meri Gjelaj

There would be nothing wrong with using Littlefinger's help against the Bolton's then turning around and throwing him under the bus afterwards because nobody likes him, simply not telling Jon because you're assuming he wouldn't take the help is just filling in plot holes on your own with no reason

CHIEF

idk, I think if she just told him they would've waited a few hours and then all those men didn't need to die....but hey who cares as long as Sansa has a "gotcha" moment. Jon was asking her for some answers and she kept saying we dont have enough men whilst withholding that info, seems stupid to me

bateman bookworm

Jon’s never met or heard about Littlefinger? Did you not pick up on the context clues of the scene after Jon and Sansa reunite? They just told each other everything they’ve been through😭 why would Jon think anything good of Littlefinger after this? All he knows is that guy keeps flip flopping loyalties and playing games

Bellamy Blake

Because Sansa was a moron and blue balled Jon for days when she clearly had a solution and Jon was tired of hearing her nonsense

Mitch

Element of surprise? Yea if it was meant for ramsey then sure but why keep it from jon? The commander? He wouldn't of risked his army being slaughtered otherwise. The battle tactics would've been different if he knew. It's bad writing the whole episode. Why didn't ramsey set scouts to watch the outer perimeter? Don't try to defend bad writing, sure it looks cool, but it's not a good story at this point of got

Starkfern

The whole battle sequence in general is just pure art. This episode received immense critical acclaim. It almost felt like EVERYONE agreed that it was one of the best episodes of television to ever of been created

Meri Gjelaj

Jack thinking Sansa cooked when she is literally the reason all these people died, because she didn't tell Jon her plan. It is literally all her fault lmao. Hilarious he thinks what she did is anything other than idiotic.

The night is Dank and full of Memers

Lol yeah they try to change her character from season 1 but without spoiling anything I don't like the way she comes across, you can do empowered without... *this*

CHIEF

Yea it's trash writing also why wouldn't jon not trust littlefinger? He's never met him or heard about him. Don't assume jon knows about how evil he is like we do. From his pov in the books he don't talk about him. It's just bad writing, jon himself said we need more men but we can't get any more and sansa doesn't say shit. It makes zero sense

Starkfern

Yoo the side eyes were sending me this whole episode 🤣🤣

Jigga Man

If only Jon had that giant with the bow from The Watchers on the Wall lmao.

TheSauceGuy

I can’t wait to start levitating once I see the final episode of the season again. God I love this show

Meri Gjelaj

My guy. RICKON WAS GOING TO DIE REGARDLESS

Meri Gjelaj

As an avid book fan, and a huge fan of George RR Martin in general, THIS is my favorite episode out of GOT (there are a few close contenders yet to come though) GRRM does this amazing job at war campaigns and making you really feel the hype and what’s at stake. So many plots and threads coming together, so many emotional scenes. I really felt Carter and canon’s reactions, you really do get that worried for them and Jon 😭 god I remember watching this the day it aired and how ballistic the internet was. Good times. It’s fun to get a hint of that feeling again with you guys, my goats fr! Can’t wait for the next episode

Kaylee S

I just thought it's because she doesn't trust Little Finger. Or maybe keeping the element of surprise? Idk

Lalisa Truong

Because Jon likely wouldn’t have been down with Littlefinger’s help. This is heavily implied in the next episode 😭 why does nobody get this????!! He literally asks sansa you trust littlefinger? And she says no and apologies for not telling him. He doesn’t seem upset that she had another army the whole time he seems upset that she seemingly trusted Littlefinger behind his back. He never brings up the army at all he brings up LITTLEFINGER

Bellamy Blake

it was the Umbers who captured Rickon and gave him to Ramsay - not the Karstarks. The man who betrayed the Starks by giving Rickon and Osha to Ramsay Bolton (and Shaggy Dog's head) was Smalljon Umber The bearded man who was leading the attack behind the Bolton phalanx as they tried to flee (same man Tormund bit when the Vale forces attacked) was Smalljon Umber - not one of the Karstarks

Kelsey

This always bothered me way more than Sansa not telling Jon about the Vale.

Bellamy Blake

He looks so good in his new show. Industry. Put the man in armor or an expensive suit he rocks them both.

I❤️movies&tvshows

Where the fuck were Robb and Rickon when the Stark children were being handed out plot armor?? ☠️

HNadR

Why did she not tell jon about the army in the vale marching north? It's dumb, maybe I just hate d&d more

Starkfern

As we know in season 7 and 8 the travel gets crazy. Someone can be on one side of the country and ten minutes later the other side. Accept it now so you can enjoy what is actually happening on the show. Otherwise you will get stuck on it and it will distract you. The travel skips are everywhere in the next two seasons. These writers are done filling in the backstory and forming relationships. They have 13 episodes to wrap up the story. They put their foot on the gas and could care less about details like travel time or continuity as we all know.

I❤️movies&tvshows

I might have gripes with some of the writing in season 6 and nitpicks about realism, but the cinematography in this episode is just so well done.

TheSauceGuy

Hating her at the start is fair. Hating her now just means you haven't been paying attention

Kelsey

@Meri Gjelaj Ramsay kills God lol

TheSauceGuy

She was literally in mid sentence telling Jon one last place they could march to for more soldiers and he cut her off and said we fight with the army we have now!!! Winter is coming lalala now now now!

Bellamy Blake

The problem is that his bow is still not capable of sending arrows that far; it's not even a longbow. It has to either be a magic bow (lol) or it's just something that requires suspension of disbelief.

TheSauceGuy

I just mentally accepted that the in universe explanation for Jon from 6x2 onward is that the lord of light is protecting him lol

Euphemia Isobel

Plot bro that’s it

Mitch

Uh oh!! How will we live!!!!

Meri Gjelaj

Plus people just fail to realize that Rickon was brought to that field to die. No amount of strategic running was going to change that. Even if he found a way to magically levitate into the sky Ramsey was still going to murder him all the same.

Meri Gjelaj

He could 100% hear the arrows impacting the ground if he didn't turn back to look at them. From that point, I feel like you'd at least look back and notice only a SINGLE PERSON is firing at you. Regardless, Rickon shouldn't have even had to do more than run in a straight line because there's no way that Ramsay's bow could realistically send arrows that far. If it's somehow some magical bow or he just has fantasy archer powers, he should've also been able to accurately hit Jon. You can argue he was just cocky and toying with Jon here, but he is taking a chance, even if it's a small one.

TheSauceGuy

Okay why didn't Ramsay just shoot Jon instead of that giant, man?! Bro was zoned out, contemplating his life decisions in the middle of a battle ☠️ And there's no way Jon was able to dodge all those arrows. But then again, he was wearing plot armor so whatever dude. Bro's Reiner Braun 🤣

HNadR

one of the most iconic battle scenes/episodes of any show, ever. My favorite episode of this show in general, but that doesn't happen without the build up. Just an unreal episode, and I honestly envy you guys for getting to watch it for the first time. That first watch of this was insane.

Dakota

Idc Jon was so desperate and needed soldiers if Sansa really wanted to she could’ve convinced him to accept LF help and it really wouldn’t have taken much either

Mitch

He definitely has both looks. First, imo, it looks like everything that Sansa told him is coming back to him and then his face quickly changes into rage. The switch is subtle and Kits performance here is phenomenal

Meri Gjelaj

Ya'll missed Sansa's smile at the end😭

Amna 🍉

Whoa

thank u next

This

Ana

On some Zeke beast Titan shit

Mitch

I hate sansa so much

Starkfern

Hummingbirds can do so because they've evolved to do it. Other birds are not capable of doing so without wind holding them in place relative to the ground; they simply don't have enough lift. GRRM specifically designed his dragons to have very large wings and only two legs for a reason. You can make a magic argument, but I don't think we've seen dragons hover in HotD like that.

TheSauceGuy

I mostly agree but in the next episode Jon is all “do you trust Littlefinger?🥴” so I think that implies he wouldn’t have accepted the help anyway. So personally I think Sansa did the right thing.

Bellamy Blake

It’s not a big deal but you guys missed Sansa’s smile when she walked away at the end. It was great to see her smile because she was finally free of Ramsay. The Karstark Tormund fought is actually lil John Umber. The Umbers hold The Last Hearth which is the castle closest to the wall. That is who gave Rickon to Ramsay which is why when Jon saw him he started fighting him. Tormund finished the job for him. Tormund may have known who he is since even Osha said she knew of the Umbers. The dragons were only focused on certain boats because Dani needed the rest of them for her fleet so she didn’t want to burn them all. Now you guys know why all of us were so excited about episode 9 dropping. It is amazing no matter how many times you rewatch it. Loved the reaction. You guys are so entertaining.

I❤️movies&tvshows

Yes, the emotional release of seeing the Stark banners replace the Bolton banners at Winterfell is palpable!🐺

Blackeyedlily

All my homies hate Ramsay

Clegane (GOT Season 1-8 enjoyer)

HOUSE STARK LETS GOOOOO

Ophelia

Ya or Ramsay could have shot Jon while he was starring at WunWun

Bellamy Blake

That didn't look like what Jon was thinking at all lol, more like "I'm gonna, f*ckin kill U"

Chantelle Miles

Just to add a detail about Ramsey and his dogs from the books, it’s made clear that hunting down women with his dogs and then killing them was something he had been doing for years, from well before he and Roose got involved with the takeover of Winterfell. And in the books all of Ramsey’s dogs are female. He gives a new dog the name of a woman he has recently hunted down, but only if they gave him good sport. The show does a really good job with Ramsey, but you get much more of his sadistic backstory in the books.

Blackeyedlily

My god. He was terrified. When you’re in a position like that you’re obviously not thinking clearly, all you know is to just run for your life. I highly doubt that “zig zagging” would be the first thing to come to mind if you were in a position like this. Don’t think I would go so far as to call him an idiot

Meri Gjelaj

If Wun Wun grabbed a pike (or had one at the start), he could've easily stabbed many of the shieldmen and broken their defensive line. I think the battle is great cinematically, but it definitely requires some suspension of disbelief to enjoy.

TheSauceGuy

It had nothing to do with Jon as a leader or strategist. It was mainly down to family coming first, like Ned and Jon being a true hero, just like a fire fighter running into a burning building to save a innocent child from death. Jon is the same in that way, he puts no value on his life and made no orders for his men to charge with him. They did because of Jon, because they love & or respect him. That's mostly down to the type of Commander, man & leader he is.

Chantelle Miles

It's not actually that impossible for a skilled archer and Rickon just ran straight like an idiot, the flayed men were distance markers not just decoration

Euphemia Isobel

i'm pretty sure that a bunch of birds can also fly in place but also magic stuff

Joey Brock

Ramsey 100% would've changed his plan if he knew they had the vale on their side

Amna 🍉

Carter, the dogs chasing Rickon would've been so much better than what we got lol. Ramsay is a good archer, but there's no way he would've been able to fire accurately at that distance, especially with that bow. Along with that, Rickon literally runs in a straight line lol... With the dogs, you aren't gonna be zig-zagging lol. It sucks too because Rickon is completely irrelevant in this show and we don't get to see his perspective.

TheSauceGuy

There was a meme that was very popular when this came out about Rickon zig zagging

I❤️movies&tvshows

rent was due this episode

Seth Aasland

Also the Sansa thing was stupid, the only thing I'll say is part of the strategy requied Ramsay to believe he had the greater army, they needed him to leave Winterfell in be in the open field. However there's still no reason for Sansa not to communicate this to Jon.

Euphemia Isobel

Guy with the glasses reli NEEDS to STOP giving false information about the show and characters, because he keeps speaking manner of factly, giving the rest he's talking to the wrong answers, when it's their first time watching. He's been wrong 95% of the time. Sansa also didn't cook exactly because she did betray Jon in a way by not informing him of the Vale and offer of the men at all to Jon when he asked for advice. Plus she was berating him for not thinking of her for the plans and advice about the enemy, when she's not trusting Jon fully and deliberately keeping things from him, more than once & lied too in 6x5. I get her being distrustful but not of Jon, especially when she put Jon's life at risk, she didn't win this battle alone either. Jon isn't one to take claim for victories etc, but he won just as much as Sansa did with himself, his selfless bravery, heroics and his men. Including the last giant Wun Wun who broke Winterfells gate and died for Jon, winning this battle for him since the Vale and their men wouldn't of been able to breach Winterfell without him and his loyalty to Jon. So Sansa did come to the rescue but the loss of men was just as much her fault as it was Jons. Guys Tormund fought the UMBER lord not the Karstark one who wasn't shown fighting. Umbers were the ones taking care of Rickon before betraying the Starks.

Chantelle Miles

Such an amazing detail I always loved. Jon defending himself with a Mormont shield.

I❤️movies&tvshows

Realistically though if you’re running for your life and not sure wtf is about to happen to you, you’re not going to be thinking strategically and you’re most likely not going to think of running in a different way to escape

Meri Gjelaj

PEAK

The Hulk

Those 62 Mormont soldiers came in handy, that was a Bear Island sigil shield Jon picks up in Winterfell to save him

Euphemia Isobel

Cannon: If I saw Jon running on his horse, I'd be dancing around. Okay, why'd I imagine that and now I can't stop laughing 🤣☠️

HNadR

There’s something so incredible about seeing the Stark banner being hung up again after so so long

Meri Gjelaj

Manz coulda picked up some bodies or a horse and started swinging them around to even if he doesn’t bring his own weapon

Shadow

I don’t give a flying fuck about what anybody says regarding this episode. This battle is one of most intense and well-crafted battle scenes that I’ve ever scene. The cinematography alone is breathtaking. That shot of the cavalry charging towards Jon??? The music????? Are you fucking kidding me?? People lost their minds when this episode came out, and for good reason. I just wanted to give my two cents before people start shitting on this glorious piece of television.

Meri Gjelaj

Yea I bet😂 but I don’t need him making cuts like a nfl WR. At least duck a little or run with a little bend in the path😂

Shadow

also that gif of jon by himself in front of all the calvary charging towards him PEAKKKK ON PEAK

aubrey

finally the battle of the bastards!! when sansa and jon were arguing they 100% both made good arguments and i believe neither one of them was really in the wrong, but i also believe sansa was completely correct to keep jon out of the loop with the support from the vale. her only instruction was to "not do what ramsey wants you to do", which seems obvious in hindsight... but jon fell for it twice. as amazing as jon is IN battle, he falls short when in the position of strategist and commander. she knew this, she acted accordingly. just in my opinion!! :) great reaction as always, looking forward to the next episode as its my favorite one in the 6-7-8 season run im pretty sure

aubrey

THE STARKS ARE BACK

nymeria

"Sansa cooked a meal I don't like". I'm with you Cannon, I'm with you

Matt Haloostock

Hot Pie can dodge arrows better than Rickon lmao

TheSauceGuy

Sansa's argument on "waiting until they had a larger force" falls flat because she declined support from the Vale.

TheSauceGuy

But then he would've been stuck there in the middle of the battlefield with Jon, no? I don't think he was going to get out of any of this unscathed or even alive.

Lalisa Truong

Honestly one of my biggest issues is WHY TF DIDNT WUN WUN GET A TREE TRUNK OR A GIANT SPEAR OR EVEN A DAMN ROCK. Dude is fighting bare handed with no armor. If he had a tree he could’ve easily broke the formation. Jon and Davos being as smart as they were should’ve def planned around having a 12 feet tall monster as their trump card idk maybe that’s just me.

Mitch

I wonder if they tried to think of a way to film that without it looking comical and realized it was too challenging 😂

Bellamy Blake

Okay but maybe those would’ve hit his leg or arm. Rickon was pretty damn close to Jon by the time he died I guarantee zig zagging would’ve increased his odds of survival.

Mitch

Good criticism respect. I really thought that Jon was just gonna let Rickon die and ACTUALLY SHOW CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT SINCE BEING RESURRECTED and it would be this whole big thing of Jon finally maturing and changing as a man but nope we got episode one Jon snow who falls right into Ramsey trap and rides in like an idiot and still survives the day and wins the battle. The battle was amazing but damn mistakes like that are what got Ned stark and Robb killed.

Mitch

Rickon zig and zag or something my boyyy. I just want u to try something ik your scared😩

Shadow

“where is the giant? ”😭💀im laughing so hard

Bellaa

I love Jon’s face when he’s looking at Ramsey after he kills Rickon…like fuck…Sansa was right

Meri Gjelaj

I love how most reactors say that Rickon should've ran in a zigzag but the thing is, Ramsey was not going to let him live. Just look what happened after he killed Rickon and ordered his men to fire their arrows. If his arrow didn't hit, one of those would. Rickon was going to die regardless.

Lalisa Truong

Baelish also told Roose in S5 he would be coming back up to Winterfell with reinforcements. Idk wouldn’t that info just get passed to Ramsay once he takes his dad’s place? I think some of you just try too hard to get mad at this plot line😂

Bellamy Blake

🙌🥳🥳🥳

Regina wibert

How are the dragons hovering in place lol? I feel like it's something that they shouldn't be able to do for very long, if at all.

TheSauceGuy

Tyrion just looks like a fool in the exchange with Daeneyrs. This is not Tyrion. This is someone else. Idk what the point of this scene was. I guess we just need foreshadowing? Daenerys and crew talking with the masters is all around solid 👌 only thing off is how Tyrion just goes from an insecure, bumbling bunch of buffoonery in one scene, to a confident negotiator the next. Daenerys takes off on Drogon and that's when Viserion and Rhaegal telepathically know to bust out of the cave? Like… they chose to not do that until this specific moment? Daenerys hovering in place for over 10 seconds for dramatic effect before saying “Dracarys” was quite silly. “Our queen does love ships.” Well… she's fuckin burning em all… Iwan Rheon is always great as Ramsay. Sansa makes her remark and then rides away to… where tf she going? Tormund acting absolutely dumbfounded when Jon talks about pincer moves or double envelopment is ridiculous. Oh it's funny cause he's culturally ignorant. Quick everyone, laugh! Tormund thinks demons in the skull are literal. Oh it's a funny Drax moment where he doesn't understand euphemisms! Yeah they don't have those north of the wall. Tormund is just a fucking meme from this point forward. Davos finding the stag was rough. Well done I suppose, although idk how a small wooden toy doesn't get burnt up, but an entire human does. Oh well, plot needs to happen. Yara and Theon arrive at Meeren. They talk to someone, but it sure isn't Tyrion. This scene is… fine. Jon just straight up ignored everything in the last conversation he had with Sansa once they hit the battlefield. For god's sake Rickon! Serpentine! Idk what Jon thinks is gonna happen… Then he just charges at them by himself? To avoid arrow fire I guess? K. Idk about you, but I'd die if I fell off a horse like that. Whatever - not that important. Epic slow mo. Jon's about to die. Oh wait, he's wearing a heavy layer of plot armor. For the rest of the episode. It honestly feels like this is done on purpose. And wtf is up with the grunge vignette filter during the battle? Okay now I'm nit-picking. Idk what kind of physics are in this world, but you don't whack a dude off his horse straight backwards with one swing of your sword unless it's The Mountain vs Lyanna Mormont. Looks cool though. Knights of the Vale to the rescue is… fine. I guess Sansa waited so long to contact Baelish because she was trying to convince Jon not to attack until they had more men and didn't want to be in debt to Baelish but in the end she had no choice? Sure… I still laugh when I see the floating CGI arrow [not] stuck in Wun Wun once he charges through the gate. They still haven't fixed it to this day in post. Ramsay gets the death he deserves. Sansa makes a remark “you haven't fed them in days, you said it yourself.” This exchange was between Ramsay and Jon after Sansa rode away the day before. I guess that's some crucial information that Jon passed on to her before the battle? K. House Stark finally gets a win. Great episode. 8/10

Paul Durbin

More just crazy that the Boltons have ZERO SPIES OR SCOUTS that could’ve seen the nights of the vale riding in haste towards winterfell. They were obviously pretty close so its wild Ramsey wasn’t alerted that this army of 10 thousand + men were within a days ride. Were they hidden or what?

Mitch

I immediately heard Robbs voice😔

Meri Gjelaj

Yes, he probably always wanted to help but he had a mindset of coming in at the last minute since season 5. It’s way more advantageous for him and “his”army so it makes sense. Way higher odds of emerging a victor that way. He prob got the idea from Tywin And by “he” I mean D&D 🤣cause I doubt any of this is in the books

Bellamy Blake

Let’s go!

David J

She sent the raven to him in ep7 and Barlish wanted to help her anyway but she turned him down. So he was prob ready to go once the raven came in. Doesn't bother me too much.

Paul Durbin

Um Robb was in open rebellion against the “crown” but Baelish and the vale have the permission of Queen Cersei, why wouldn’t they be able to travel willy nilly?as far as everyone knew Baelish was Cersei and Bolton’s ally. Idk I think people forget that scene in S5. Did you even rewatch it?

Bellamy Blake

It’s not really the fact they went, it’s the time travel which just becomes so prevalent to jump to conclusions. Obviously I’m not saying “Hey I wanted to see these dudes camp and march all the way there!” It’s an issue because if you keep suspending belief and bending rules in the world that went through so much to set standards it’s all falls apart and nothing matters. Yes it’s a tv show of course it’s silly and petty but c’mon, we’re all fans and fan is short for fanatic. Just saying then your brain off and enjoy is idiotic and spits in everyone’s face. Think of how much trouble Rob went through his entire campaign and these people just travel Willy nilly, example Brienne of freaking Tarth going to River in and back. Notice how she’s not there and if she would’ve gotten the River men to help there’s no way they make it in time lmao. Sorry for the long comment if anyone read this hahaha

Mr. Buddy Guy

Jon looks so badass it’s almost painful. The goat of all goats

Meri Gjelaj

Hahaha I love that we commented the same thing at the same time

yio

IT'S HERE!

TheSauceGuy

Damn great minds think alike lol

Shadow

Cannon I’m liking this mohawk thing you got going on

Meri Gjelaj

bro's feeling edged

Joey Brock

LESSGOOO

Charlie Bronson

CALL THE BANNERS!!

Mr. Buddy Guy

i cannot believe it. next episode cooking alert

Jonesy

“Sleep well.” 🥶🥶

Seth Aasland

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Meri Gjelaj

Some ppl think there’s no way the Knights of the Vale could have gone through river run or moat Cailin, but they were given permission by Cersei in Season 5. And Baelish even suggests to Cersei that he would like to come in at the end after the 2 armies battled it out and were tired. Even if Sansa asked him from the beginning, Baelish likely would have made an excuse to come in at the last minute https://youtu.be/UTuaonjAULo?si=FATiawxctmL46fna

Bellamy Blake

Been waiting for this reaction since the beginning

Shadow

I've been waiting for this since the day you guys started watching GoT 🩵

yio

I'd say next ep is the best but this one is awesome too!

Josh Ashford

ITS FINALLY HERE

yio

Woah I checked at the right exact time since I’m still team no notifications 🙌🏾

A_Daddy Daichi

Stop

clémence

LETS GOOOO I CAN BREATHE AGAIN

Ophelia

LETS FRICKING GO

Agent September 🏴‍☠️

MY GOAT EPISODE OF TELEVISION

leah

It's here!!! ⚔️

Nymeria Stark

LETSGOOOOO

R

Yisssssssssssss🔥

emma.bean

Clicked so fast. This is my episode. MINE

Kaylee S

RAN HEREEE

Tia Hulse

ABSOLUTE PEAK

Cannon Andrus

THIS IS PEAK TELEVISION

McKay Carter

Peak

Ethan

WooHoo!!

I❤️movies&tvshows

Best ep of GOT??? He'll yeah

icynub

LFG!!!

Darrell Henry

NO WAY IT'S HERE

Madison

JUST WHEN I WAS ABOUT TO SLEEP😭

Sarah Wevers

guys let’s fucking goooo— I’m just about to sit down and eat breakfast, I thank both the old gods and the new for this blessing

Amanda Reutermo

ITS HERE

alexis ♡︎

i can’t believe we’re finally here

Seth Aasland

caption🤣

Bellaa

Let's goooooo 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🙂‍↕️↕️

Q3rf Neym

RAHHHHH

Melizé

YESSS

Bellaa

Finally!

Scinaps

EARLYY

hayden 💟

SO EARLY OMG OMG OMG

Seth Aasland

FIRST

Duke Howard