.Game. .Of. .Thrones. 7x5

I'm playing catch up after a sick spell and I'm sad seeing everyone so divided. I fell into the same camp as Brig and Canon with GoT but there were times where I felt like Carter too if it was an IP I was very passionate about. If I had to guess, I am just burned from all of my favorite TV shows falling off bad in the last seasons.

Rigny la Belle

It’s definitely rushed and things that used to take a whole season now are fast but as a whole the stuff is still there. We all know they rushed the end seasons that isn’t new but you’re either going to be one of the GOT fans that loathe it or think it’s fine.

Nicole

The gods demand Canon en Brig do a walk of atonement after that discussion. Disgusting / dumb

Jem de Jager

No this is legit one of the worst episodes in the entire show

Andrea PM

I love Carter's honesty and I also understand everyone's discomfort. Carter is usually talkative even when he is not liking something, and seeing him shut himself down for 1h obviously creates a weigh in the room that is hard to address. You guys are besties so you know better than any of us how to deal with this stuff but I think a compromise on both parties is needed.

Sarafian Victor

I agree but disagree I feel like Carter is doing a little too much with the nitpicking…like I remember when I watched it first hand it definitely was shit but I took it for as it was like we know it’s not as good but it was still doable but yes Carter no offence but I feel like the knowledge of the show not being good and how it falls off so hard is making you see the bad of it wayyy to much where you clearly don’t enjoy watching or just watching to get it over with like in previous reactions you were open and leaning forward like really focusing compared to now you’re sitting with your arms crossed and all the way back idk it just gives off the not enjoying it vibe and it brings down the mood a little lol but everyone is free to their opinion and that’s fine so yea 😂

Noble

lol I can't wait to see your comments in season 8 Paris. Just wait, you'll see why most people hate that season. Oh baby are you in for one!!!!

Jada

Exactly, since when has calling somebody a "bandwagon" not an attack on somebody's character. @David S. Is basically saying Carter is incompetent to form his own thoughts, David is so blinded by his own ignorance he doesn't even realize it.

Jada

Dude what? Go back and reread YOUR OWN COMMENTS you basically said IN OTHER WORDS he can't form his own thoughts because HIS thoughts are forge from prenotion of negativity towards season 7-8. Dude actually shut up

Jada

Such a stupid take man, I'm so sick of y'all saying this. Little do you know you're basically saying they can't form their own thoughts. And where was this same notion in season 6 when most of the fans bashed it and the geks said it was their favorite season?...we'll wait for you to come up with an excuse

Jada

This take doesn't hold weight, the comments have said, time after time, that season 6 was trash. And they took that into consideration, and went in the season with low expectations, just for season 6 to be their favorite season. Season 7 has plenty of flaws, just because Carter can see the flaws doesn't mean he's bias towards the show because of the comments. He has two eye balls, two ears, and common sense; that's all it takes to realizes this isn't a good season period!

Jada

Carter just know we stand with you!!!! This is exactly how I felt watching this season back in 2017. Cinematography has gotten better but the dialogue and the pacing was off completely. Just wait until season 8, Cannon and Brig will feel the same way you feel right now.

Jada

Damnn Carter calls out McKay for the haikyuu reactions feels soo good, because It's just so true he was soo AFK, and btw It's completely fine how Carter feels, because the snow is MID in season 7 (if you ask me is kinda mid since season 5), but like, there is nothing to feel in this episode and really ,there is nothing to say, there is a ton of exposition and the characters are shadows of themselves's and everyone is teleporting. If Cannon likes season 8, I'm going to be shocked because i know that Carter is going to hate it with passion, and i don't get why Cannon is rambling like a mad girlfriend to Carter about how he doesn't like the season as much as he likes it. Like bro, there is almost nothing to like about this season, he is being true to himself and he just does not like it, and he says it. Like, i can see you guys not enjoying haikyuu (at least season 1) or the OG naruto, as much as i like(btw shippuden's first 50 ep are ass ) , but it's fine. If you liked something say it ,if you didn't, say it as well, it's fine. It's visible on your faces anyway, and it's fine.

OoBeRoN Yordanov

leave carter alone :( He's just dissappointed which is understandable when you go from such peak writing to mid

Sandi

My suggestion is to hold off on things you don't like till later in the reaction or at least until some good opinions are expressed. Most people (I am assuming you guys also) want to hear the good opinions right away but it doesn't mean they don't want to hear the bad opinions. Just give it a few moments. That being said, I totally get the negative about it being rushed. I felt the same way when I first watched. They could have kept the same speed and had full seasons 7 & 8. But they didn't. I also get the need to immediately say something about it. I remember saying something immediately and my friends not liking it.

Ben Chicka

The fact that comments like this have so many likes is crazy and such an insult to Carters intelligence. I'm glad the geks give their real opinions. There's also so much more incentive for them to just pretend they enjoy all the shows they watch so your argument makes 0 sense.

Joel

I also watched the series with my dad from like season 3 on after reading the books. We discussed everything and we were both so disappointed with so much of the series after season 4 but season 7&8 were above and beyond in how bad they were in terms of writing. Here's to waiting for The Winds of Winter!

Joel

The reason the boys are more defensive about Carters negative opinions is because they know he's right and deep down they're also disappointed about the final seasons. Obviously I'm not a mindreader but that's what I think. Carter has real fleshed out reasons regarding the writing as to why he doesn't like things.

Joel

I know what they showed… as I explained it in more detail than you. Y’all being disingenuous, and I get it cuz you don’t appreciate the fast pacing. Just keep the same energy for every sped up moment in the show… since season 1 episode 1. All the teleportations, sped up aging of Dragons, and monthly timeskips. Also for all the Jon Snow and Samwell Tarly plot armor moments. There’s a couple for each. Arya boxing with Brianne of Tarth was a peak moment of the whole series, I’m sorry you couldn’t appreciate it 🫡

Icchi

They literally had a montage of her learning to fight with a staff, which seemingly didn't take her that long to get good at. They showed none of the lockpicking stuff or how she got enough muscle to fend off a giant longsword with flicks of what may as well be a damned toothpick. Where she even learned to fight with a sword is beyond me, she wasn't good after Syrio's training that's for damn sure. I can explain it off by 'it happened offscreen' but it's a stretch imo, for the amount of time she had.

Faris Alamin

Lmao "deepest thinker" is a different level of glaze. I think he just favours certain things like writing more strongly and so is more upset and less willing to let it go than the others when the show falls short.

Faris Alamin

@Donnel While I'm not going to say there's no bias, Carter is exactly the type of viewer who would notice these issues, like so many people did when it was coming out. I think you have a bias yourself if you think otherwise. For me Season 7 was when I noticed the deterioration of the show.

Faris Alamin

😂😂 don't listen to the comments, there are a lot of dumb opinions on what's allowed and not allowed. Just give your honest opinion on the show, call it mid (cuz it is) and ignore the comments

Starkfern

CW catching strays. Not that I disagree.

7thdilemma

Y’all just be respectful in the comments even if you “don’t like” Carter’s reaction. I think some people take these reaction channels way too seriously if someone doesn’t like a part of a show they love. I LOVE Haikyu and when McKay wasn’t enjoying it in the beginning….. It honestly didn’t bother me because I can’t force him to love it! That’s how he felt in the moment and it is what it is. Carter can do the same. Be nice! Also I liked that you guys were able to hear each other out. It’s good to talk things out and not keep it in. Keep being amazing boys!

A_Daddy Daichi

“He just wants to be a hater” is crazy. You don’t understand him for sure if you say this.

A_Daddy Daichi

I usually read all the comments when I’m late to watch but this one I’ll skip 😅

A_Daddy Daichi

I agree with Carter here, you can enjoy something and still see whats bad about it, Season 7 is a whole lot of things happening, with very little weight to it, so its just missing this heavy, tight feeling in the stomach we got in earlier seasons. But its still an enojable watch, just very forgettable, eyecandie if you will

Ghedo

Or maybe he just sees the issues and isn’t afraid to call them out. Only sheep in this world jump on the bandwagon. Carter actually has valid criticisms

Sean Carroll

I support Carter's take 100% a lot of stuff in the last two seasons feels rushed and I'll never understand why they made this season 7 episodes🫣

Socorro Viernes

Carter's comments are due to preconceived bias. He already knows that season 8 was widely criticizedd by the fandom, so he's basically watching to nitpick any writing he sees as not good.

Donnel

Ok! Yes! Sorry! 😅 I got "dragon show" and "dragon time" mixed up for a min there!🤣

Lady Stoneheart (Uncat)

carter gets upset cause its just bad so taking a break from it wont change anything he just doesnt like what he sees which is fine. If the guys watched only stuff they all enjoy it would take out the point of the channel. The whole point is to give reactions to the stuff they are watching so if its bad or they dont like it they should be able to say it that gives the good moments more weight. whole reason carter is so upset is because the show used to be so good which makes sense why he doesnt like the stuff he sees now as much

mar zelle

Yeah I’ve seen them I was just referring to the in joke of him calling got post s4 “the dragon show” Also with hotd I think he’s really enjoyed both s1 and 2 apart from a couple moments that feel a little to close to s8 got

Sweede TW

I agree with cannon! Tbh I think Carter needs a break from this. I think it’s just making you upset and you’re not enjoying it and we can see that so honestly it takes the enjoyment out for us too. Not saying you shouldn’t feel how you feel but in the end of the day it’s rushed but the story we knew it was gonna be this way it’s just rushed but the story isn’t bad! Honestly it’s draining and I’m not as excited to watch as much anymore cause you are being really picky like you know this is rushed so watch it like it’s gonna be bad so you’re not as upset. Hope you don’t get upset with this comment just my opinion. Still adore all 5 of you. 🙏🏻

Nat Brojeni

Bed time inching closer, hope fades 😭

Euphemia Isobel

He posted below that it would be online today

I❤️movies&tvshows

Yeah we only got 2 episodes last week 😬

Scinaps

Work has been so crazy this week that when I read your comment I realised that it’s Friday already (2 am) and I’m still shocked that the week’s ending

Bambina

just copped a 8th called white walker og (i stg it literally has the night king on it) and im waiting for the gem that is s7 ep 6 to crack the seal 😮‍💨

alexis ♡︎

It's out of fun and because I don't want to reveal my real name, Al Boxley. I made it a long time ago and I don't intend to change it, even when GOT is over. You can think it's weird but there isn't a reason to be rude about it, lol. It's not that deep. So many people here have anime characters/ other characters as their name and/or pfp. Let people have their fun, and I encourage you to try to have fun some time.

Jaqen H'ghar

Are we going to get the next episode this week?

Jarvis O'Kain

You have to react to the Coldplay special before season 8. And to the Conan reunion after season 8

אור לפלר

May was the best, we got 14 episodes that month 😭

Euphemia Isobel

Yall got any more of that GOT *insert Dave Chapelle meme here*

Scinaps

No way they ganged up on Carter for not enjoying what he is watching. Best part of the reaction is that not everyone has the same reaction. Edit: I love when group is divided, that way you get opinions on both sides. Truth is usually in between.

Uros Vesic

We need back to back episodes to compensate for this week.

Leo

lmao so true

Uros Vesic

ep 6 soon? 🤞🙃

Isabella Hayes-Hollands

🥺

Euphemia Isobel

Wanted more of the discussion, feels like it got cut short and ended almost mid sentence :) And yes, season 7 def feel rushed, ticking of things that at the start of this series would have taken 2-3 seasons to cook.

Henrik Åström

Tyrion backs the lady with the dragon, encourages her to conquer and then...is disturbed when she uses her dragons to conquer? What did he think conquering would entail? Asking everyone nicely to bend the knee? Setting up a voting booth? Conquering by definition means taking by force. That scene always bothers me because it uses Tyrion, the fan favorite, to influence the audience into seeing Dany in a questionable light and it's very undeserved. At least here.

Raven Sub

He's a big fan of the early seasons, idk about HotD, haven't seen it all. If you've only seen his viral vids it might seem like he hates it all indiscriminately, but it's just love, then the let down. Watch the got review vids, he means to finish them, plus do blisstakes for the early seasons, but hasn't gotten to it. It seems like the whole channel is just ranting about 6-8 because the motivation to complete those had to go somewhere asap/those went most viral 😂

Lady Stoneheart (Uncat)

Dude you nailed it. When a show goes from a 10 to a 6/low 7 that’s exactly the appropriate reaction. What are we talking about here? Imagine a 40% reduction in quality of something. What kind of reaction are you expecting bro? Carter’s reaction is a majority of the GoT fandom. It is why to this day it’s still referenced as the biggest fall of all time. Not to sound arrogant, but I honestly think GoT is a good litmus test for whether good writing is crucial for each watcher. The people that don’t notice the drop off, or say it is not significant, their favorite part of GoT was not the writing.

Al Boxley

I really dislike these types of takes. Carter’s reaction is nearly identical to my original reaction watching in real time. I had no preconceived notions. No negative connotations. No bias at all. There’s nothing wrong with liking this season. There’s also nothing wrong with feeling disappointed or unfulfilled. But the assumption that the ONLY reason someone feels a certain way is due to outside influence is ridiculous.

Pete Befi

I deleted it because I felt bad. I still think the whole profile pic+name is weird tho lol

Al Boxley

Early drop maybe? 👁️👄👁️

Euphemia Isobel

He is not a "hater" though, he has just said he dislikes how this seasons played out, with a lack of buildup, rushing events etcetera; especially compared to GOTs standard. He doesn't hate the show at all, like he said in the outro "this seasons a big fat 7/10". Having critisicims of a show does not equal being a "hater" - you are simply wanting to label him as a "hater" to justify your dislike of his authentic reaction.

AvaRISE

I think it's incredible how Carter manages to synthesize his thoughts, that's the biggest reason I follow you to this day, after simply enjoying following the transition from haters to anime lovers hahah I waited a long time for the chance to have One Piece here and I want very much to see the reactions and thoughts, mainly from Carter, about the characters and stories told in OP. This same Carter who can put into words what I feel, often seeing the same things but not being able to synthesize the thoughts in the same way, thank you Carter for completing me hahah.

Gost César

Yes, seasons 7 and 8 ep makes a lot of copyright problems on YouTube. Because they where so anticipated and so much watched the show on pirated websites, they made tone of copyright laws to make it really tough to upload without getting striked by them…

אור לפלר

I believe that Carter actually does feel the way he does and he isnt factoring in the expectations the comments have set but at the same time his reaction honestly feels a little overboard and it’s giving I need to fit in with those who have a problem with it. I’m not saying he should just be happy no matter what but bro has acted like his dog died in the last few reactions lol. Atp if he really dislikes this portion of the series he might as well not even continue to watch because from a viewer perspective it looks like he absolutely hates it.

David J

S8 is like Emily in Paris - objectively the writing isn’t very good. But here and there it is, and most importantly, I can turn off my brain watching it and it’s so entertaining

Bambina

Carter = season half empty and Cannon/Brig = season half full

notchrisramirez

Season 7 so far is just confirmation bias at its purest. Went into this season knowing people hated it so we are subconsciously looking for the things about the season the make it bad. When we see those flaws we are able to justify the subconscious disappointment we had going into the season.

notchrisramirez

I wholeheartedly believe that if the "season 7 and 8 are the worst seasons of tv ever" narrative was not known beforehand, Carter's reaction would not be this emotional. Pre-conceived bias of these seasons being bad is warping the opinion and I think that if carter (as well as I) did not know beforehand then it would have been more enjoyable. Yes it is obviously rushed but I dont think it deserves the reaction that Carter gave, and I think the majority of the reaction is coming from having the quality be spoiled beforehand. I usually agree with Carter on his takes, and I agree with his take here, but I don't agree with the reaction to it. It's not as big of a deal as Carter makes it out to be imo. He's reacting as if this season is a 1.0 so far when its honestly a high 6 to low 7 at worst.

notchrisramirez

Yeah he definitely live GoT, he’s just not a big fan of the dragon show 😂

Sweede TW

If it’s entertaining that’s all I really care about.

David J

The cinematography is the best in the last two seasons, but the writing, the plots and the character development 🗑️

Amna 🍉

Love me sum Glidus 🥰 And what I love is it doesn't at all come from a place of hate. An entire channel meticulously dedicated to GoT and HoTD and he's "just a hater" lmaooo

Lady Stoneheart (Uncat)

"The show is the show and the books are the books" Emilia Clarke as a person is as equally compelling as book Dany, while show Dany is not as equally compelling as either of them.

Lady Stoneheart (Uncat)

Just wanted to say I loved your commentary at the end. Carters reaction are SOOO valid, I also understand Connor and Briggs enjoying it for what it is. But game of thrones is a show that was build on so much more than just visuals, the visuals have always been great but the last two seasons have lacked in so many other ways that as a fan and first time watcher u can’t help but feel disappointed. I’m more surprised at the others guys reactions than carters tbh and I’m not saying they’re wrong but Carters reaction is how a lot of us that were keeping up with the show from the beginning and seeing it first time felt! It is enjoyable to see the crossovers between characters but there’s absolutely no depth whatsoever when this is a show that was built on a lot of depth. And when you truly observe wtf is going on and how it’s being portrayed a lot of it do not make any sense and anyone who doesn’t feel that way didn’t understand the show. Carter thank you for being real and portraying what many felt. Also it is understandable that they made it this way bc the show runners were sick of this show mid/after s6 and it shows in how they’ve produced this season and the last and even they knew that. HBO and George knew that they couldn’t conclude game of thrones in 2 more seasons after s6 but they had no interest in continuing and wanted to conclude as fast as possible which is why the last 2 seasons aren’t even 10 ep and lacked so much and their disinterest shows in how they handled the them. Keep up the great reactions and don’t let these bitter people get to you.

Zoro’s Enma!

The cinematography in season 8 is excellent. Loved every minute of it.

David J

7 i can understand people enjoying it. but season 8….i mean come on

Bellaa

Instead of editing the new reaction for Patreon Carter has to go back and redo a couple edits of the previous episodes. That way they can be approved for YouTube. He can’t film a reaction either if he has to take extra time to edit. Plus it’s his birthday today. Happy Birthday Carter!

I❤️movies&tvshows

Time needs to be spent else where and therefore that time that would be used on the reactions is sacrificed to fix the YouTube issue

Sean Carroll

Re-read my comment because you missed my point entirely. Not once was there a mention of the show being perfect.

Luke Crompton

Carter absolutely cooked in the outro

Broski McBrosef

Use this as a button for being a Season 7/8 enjoyer! ⬇️

David J

Bellamy Blake

Uhh D&D don't remember

Paul Durbin

Sorry for the late posts, we have been dealing with weird youtube issues for GoT and just got it resolved. The posts will resume tomorrow

Studio Geck

Man imagine how F**** we’d all be if all their reaction episodes were out at $4.99 each😭. We are the demographic of no patience lol. But for real ready for GoT and Dark. Y’all need to help me thru this work week

Al Boxley

Read the books. D&d didn’t understand Dany from s1. It was shocking reading after being such a big fan of the show for awhile

Shadow

truest comment ive seen here

Laney Tapia

GOT?

Marlon Douglas

I feel like this is the perfect example of D&D messing up her character bc idk how ppl can hate book Dany😭

Amna 🍉

Saying Carter is jumping on the bandwagon of hate is absolutely an insult to his intelligence. Think about this, people who are fence sitters jump on bandwagons to be part of the cool group, these people are likely sheep in this world with no coherent thought of their own and just parrot what the other members of the group say. The fact that Carter is able to provide his issues and justify with reason shows that he is not a jump on the bandwagon type of guy. People who jump on the bandwagon are people who say they hate the last two seasons but aren’t able to explain why. For example I’ve encountered so many people who say that Aot ending was bad but when you ask them to provide reasoning they suddenly go silent. These are the sheep in this world who don’t have a spec of individual thought outside the group.

Sean Carroll

Lmao to be honest you’re the one that doesn’t seem to be able to live with my opinion. I am merely just sharing my thoughts, which is what a comment section is for. I have noticed something over the course of season 7 and I have refrained from saying anything until now but since it is being talked about, let’s talk about it! I don’t think I have insulted anyone as you are insinuating — I’m just being honest about how I feel in what I think has been pretty respectful so far. This is my first negative critique about anything on this channel, and I’m not going to kiss anyone’s ass or sugarcoat the way I feel. I still love the channel and their reactions, just not agreeing with the consensus this one time 🤷🏾‍♂️

David S.

Agree with you

Leo

“I thought bran was dead” Sam told you in season 4 he was alive. Jon doesn’t remember lol

Sean Carroll

"Um I believe the word you're looking for is "vacuous" or "trivial.""

Paul Durbin

Bellamy Blake

Please inform me as to what "this" is about then cause you've quickly turned this into the most vapid conversation I've ever had.

Paul Durbin

Good job. You beat me in a game of semantics. Another necessary accomplishment.

Paul Durbin

Do you need me to explain how this is incredibly insulting towards the boys or can you figure it out yourself?

BloodyBen

Jesus fucking christ give it a rest Octavia. As I mentioned, being a deep thinker is not good or bad. He's not right or wrong about anything. He's not wise or stupid. He's not picking up on more or less things. His brain is just more philosophical than the others as far as I can tell. Imo. IN. MY. OPINION. Doesn't mean anything about whether or not "deep thinkers" typically like or dislike seasons 7 and 8. You have a habit of assuming what isn't being said and have this incessant need to be defensive when no one is being aggressive. I practically said nothing and yet you just need to come in and start some shit. You seem to think my comment amounts to "you like season 7 you dumb. You don't like season 7 you smart." Wtf how is that what you pull??

Paul Durbin

And that's you and how you handle such a situation, sorry to break this to you but Carter isn't you and doesn't have to be like you. And Carter isn't letting a few bad moments ruin it, he has said so many times that good dialogue and overall writing is what gets him ticking, and the quality of dialogue has objectively dropped significantly. Learn to accept that people are different and therefore think differently.

BloodyBen

Do you understand how insulting this is towards Carter? or do I need to explain it to you?

BloodyBen

So I take it you like everything about S7 and S8? no issues? no problems? both 10/10 seasons for you?

BloodyBen

Imagine not being able to accept that someone has a different opinion to you, yikes. You're just assuming that Carter hasn't gone into S7 with an open mind, you're just assuming that he's just "jumping on the bandwagon", when in reality you don't know. If he genuinely dislikes it and its his own opinion then leave it be. As I've said to others in this comment section: there will come a time in this series when they dislike things that you also dislike, are you gonna still keep this energy and opinion when that time comes? or will you accept their 'negative' opinions because you have the same negative opinions? I also don't know if you noticed but all of you who are insinuating that part of why Carter dislikes where the series is at is because of others negative opinions, are literally insulting him by basically saying he's incapable of having his own opinions. And besides all that, why do you even watch reaction channels if you don't want genuine reactions? do you just wanna watch people have the same opinions as you? all the time? because to me that sounds incredibly boring and unrealistic, we're all individuals with our own thoughts/feelings/opinions, and each of us is entitled to our thoughts/feelings/opinions.

BloodyBen

Fine, I'll just say it... Carter is obviously the deepest thinker in the bunch. That's not a bad or good thing - just an observation. People appreciate different things for different reasons. That's what makes us individuals. The geks are similar enough to enjoy the same content, but different enough to have various experiences and perceptions on it. Isn't that what we all love about being here in the first place? Now... Carter, welcome to what us "haters" have been experiencing in the comments for some time now...

Paul Durbin

Dumbest people in GOT are north people.

Leo

The north remembers... "The north has the memory of a goldfish." - Cannon 27:30 hahaha

Paul Durbin

Hmm I would argue his lack of reaction is also a reaction. If we're talking about a solo reaction channel then yes, maybe sitting still wouldn't be a good idea but they're in a group, have comments, banter, discussion. How emotive he is doesn't matter to me. Plus he doesn't do it all the time. His disappointment was the reaction to the current part of the season.

Nikita M

Thanks for clarifying my point.

Luke Crompton

Not meant to you directly but I’m not apologizing for sharing my opinion. I obviously love this community and the Geks’ reactions or else I wouldn’t be here. Just because I’m calling out something doesn’t mean I don’t respect the amount of work they put into this channel.

David S.

Doesn’t feel like it. His face is just blank the whole time, it’s almost like he doesn’t wanna be here. I like that he still kept it 100 and voiced how he truly felt but I just want him to have a different approach/mindset about the show and not go in super negative because that’ll only make him spiral. Both things can be true.

David S.

Briggs nailed it at the very end. The current plot makes absolutely no sense. And Carter is the man. A show can very well be enjoyable and also not at all what it was. Thrones WAS a world built on dialogue, character development and interactions, plotting and scheming, and complex morally ambiguous personalities. As most people recognize, the last couple seasons are highlighted by incredible visuals, music, and the culmination of beloved character arcs and journeys. The inner workings of what made thrones different and special no longer exist. There’s this feeling that I was watching The Godfather or Shawshank and now I’m watching the avengers. It was still ‘enjoyable’ but overwhelmingly disappointing thinking about what could’ve been. And to me personally, at this point, post spoils of war, the show becomes laughable. Still has satisfying moments and tremendous set pieces, but it no longer resembles the same show as seasons 1-4. It’s a parody of itself. I know Tyrion better than Tyrion knows Tyrion at this point. Carter’s stoicism makes perfect sense. Don’t change brother!

Pete Befi

Loved the outro

poe

Facts, only good season to follow her was season 1, after that it was boring and cringe for the most part

Sean Carroll

This may be an unpopular opinion (hehe 🤭) but after watching this show more times than I can count in its entirety; Daenerys is ONE of my least favorite characters. Obviously not the worst, but yeah….There, I said it. 😅 I mean don’t get me wrong, she has some dope scenes but…. Well can’t actually go into details at this moment….

Vanessa Sanchez

We got a whole montage of her fighting blind, from when she was dirt to good enough to become no one. Jaime, one of the greatest in Westeros’s history, is struggling with one hand… he got it easy compared to her. She wasn’t just learning how to lie, but how to truly become any face she put on… that requires the ability to tell when someone’s lying as well. And she was learning how to assassinate people without a trace, I’d assume lock picking was a prerequisite. Was it quick? Yes. Did they give the context needed? Yes. She’s doing everything they showcased her learning.

Icchi

I completely understand Carter. Let’s be honest…The last two seasons are rushed, plain and simple. The lack of build up is evident. However, I also agree with the other guys, this season IS enjoyable and has some kickass moments!!!

Vanessa Sanchez

I feel like I undestand carter's feelings, it's hard to avoid getting disappointed over how good some of these plot points could be for them to end up being ok at best. Also if you think carter is a hater you should go watch a glidus review cause that guy is on another level

Sweede TW

problem is the only thing we were shown is her fighting with sticks and learning how to lie about stuff and now shes suddenly good at everything

Sweede TW

Out of all the flaws I’ve pointed out this episode, the lockpicking is the least of my issues, I’m willing to forgive that compared to the rest

Sean Carroll

I mean, they don't really deserve it but if I give the benefit of the doubt: Like the Arya lockpicking thing. Absolutely theres a reason we notice it, it feels sudden. They should have done better, but theres realisitc arguments that theres been *poor* setup for this. It’s stated early on Arya used to break into Sansa's room. So she could have learned long ago and knew how this whole time. Second, No One is known for being able to just appear places and it makes total sense that it would be part of her training to get through locked doors. Thirdly, the level of lockpicking she needs to get in that door takes about a half hour to learn, if I'm generous. Shes not cracking into a modern bank vault. *On its own*, the lockpicking isn't an issue, easily explainable. That said, they never showed us any of that and it would have been so easy to add 30 seconds of that at someplace before shes using it for an important plotpoint- how easy would it have been to see her twiddling with a lock during a conversation at any point in the show before now? Like its screenwriting 101- checkovs gun. But combined with her sudden Super Ninja self, it feels particularly off-putting. It's the whole package of Arya in s7 that's the problem, not the specific details. Now I'm all for Arya becoming a badass Super Ninja- I genuinely like that direction for her, but they didn't earn it in the time since she was a lowly trainee. Truly, she needed like two seasons more development to be Lvl 16 Rogue easily defeating Breanne, slipping in and out of the shadows like Batman. She just becomes a caricature of herself because she just woke up that way one day. So this is an example of what I mean. Some of your specific complaints on small details I think are more nitpicky in nature, but the bigger picture they relate to are the actual problem. So lockpicking => nitpick but Aryas development suddenly on cocaine => very serious flaw

Griffin

I mean season 6 had low expectations for them based off of some comments and they loved it.

Skyz

saying that you value authencity and then telling Carter his reaction was wrong in the same sentence is kind of crazy

Amna 🍉

@Al boxley - I love your attitude! I bet it gets you super far in life. Edit: I still saw your comment before you deleted. Don't be shy, show everyone how cool you are with your insults!

Jaqen H'ghar

100%

JAY

Couldn’t disagree more w this take. He is watching it w an open mind, wym? Also you can’t say I appreciate your authenticity, and then ask him to feel how you want him to.

Al Boxley

I'm astounded with how fucking rude everyone can be. Studio Gek, Y'all are doing great. You're a stellar reaction channel and the real ones genuinely appreciate your authentic reaction. I apologize for the amount of absurd comments that have been directed at y'all; a community should not act this way towards the content creators. Your videos literally bring me happiness during a time in my life where I struggle- it's a small joy I look forward to. Don't let the entitled and outright rude people get to you. Keep doing you!

Jaqen H'ghar

Are we getting another episode today at all? :)

Tori

Oh boy this comment section is more toxic than Britneys song.

Scinaps

It's pretty clear a lot of you don't want a reaction channel at all, you really just want a mirror held up to yourself so you have someone who agrees entirely with everything you think, all the time. And anything less than that is somehow a personal affront to you. You want them to mindlessly clap like circus seals. Keep it up Carter, you're more than valid.

Hunter Snider

I wasn’t ready to finish it 😫😫 but yess i’ll share my thoughts for the upcoming episodes

gigi

Perfectly said.

GreetswithJudgement

Keepin it 100 here. I have personally been pretty disappointed with Carter’s reactions over the last couple of episodes. While I appreciate the honesty and authenticity of your reaction, I am more so upset with your unwillingness to give these last seasons a shot, or your apparent “lack of trying”. Everyone knows that seasons 7-8 are not peak GOT in terms of writing, pacing, etc. There’s no denying that, as the comments have unceasingly reminded you. And yet I have always thought that you’d still be able to forge your own opinions and not just jump on the bandwagon. Excluding Jack and McKay because they’ve already seen the show, Cannon and Brig seem to keep an open heart and at least try to enjoy what we’ve got while still pointing out the many flaws. You’re doing the opposite, where you’re going in super closed off and then throwing in a couple “still a good season though”. That’s what we as viewers want in a reaction channel; a blank sheet of paper and right now you are a George R.R Martin book full of preconceived notions. Nothing personal against you Carter, still love you guys and the channel 🫡🤍

David S.

Well, most of the jon haters are Dany Stans. So, it's obvious.

Leo

Yeah I don’t mean this as any disrespect to the other geks but he’s sat in the middle of the couch and he tall af just gives main character energy

Kneegrow

If it’s to stand still like a stone, it’s better not to work with a reaction channel. Reacting is not that, simple and easy to understand, and that’s what the boys tried to explain.

Harper

But I don't think he meant Sansa to be a traitor to her family either....

Amna 🍉

Same 😂

Eliana Ayala

When the author wrote the Starks characters he wrote Sansa last because he thought the Starks were too loyal, she definitely has a different vibe than her brothers. Even so, they really didn't know how to develop Sansa well

JC

when I first saw the scene, I thought it was an emotional moment. I didn’t need a bunch of build up. Sometimes “build up” is unrealistic too because sometimes life just happens

Bellamy Blake

GRRM needs to spend less time whining about shows HE SOLD FOR $$$$ (and he used to write for tv so he knows how they adapt thing, the old hypocrite) and spend more time FINISHING THAT DAMN BOOK!

NoneOfYourBeeswax

These layers of complexity, love 'em

Lady Stoneheart (Uncat)

Well I think I sort of figured out for me why the latter seasons just didn't cut it ... thanks to @thesauceguy lol ... which might apply to he who shall no longer be named dropped! Jk... Anyway, it's kind of hard to explain, but .... I like to and almost have to multi hyperfocus on things ... my natural state is in full sensory immersion. It's as natural as breathing. So a show like GoT where attention to multiple details and concepts at a time like an amped speed moving puzzle is where dopamine hits highest. Mental and sensory activity, and thus hits, are higher in earlier seasons when there is a steady, almost overloaded flow out of information and mystery to solve. There is only a simple like 5 piece puzzle left in later seasons, from my perspective 😭😭😭 ... so I just have to sit there while my brain works at a pace and problem that isn't as complex or satisfying. Then of course I'm going to look bored and feel physically depressed, because I'm not being as energized or powered up by what I'm consuming or engaging with. 😔😔😔🤷🏾‍♀️🤷🏾‍♀️🤷🏾‍♀️ Yeah, there is award winning visual spectacle, and fan service callback, but I don't draw as much satisfaction from that alone or only utilizing one sense at a time.

Lady Stoneheart (Uncat)

This might be crazy but people have different opinions and dislike/like. It's a crazy concept but it does happen.

Amna 🍉

The interesting aspect of Gendry and Jon goes even further, because though Robert and Ned were besties, Jon’s real father was murdered by Robert. And Jon’s mother was the love of Robert’s life.

Erika Bade

Arya became no one and we questioning her lock picking skills??? 💀 ain’t no way. Did we see what Jaquen was doing? Tanjiro had the same training arc.

Icchi

@Karlsefni They literally told him its hard to enjoy the show for them when he is being the way he is and made suggestions on how he could do it this or that way to make a compromise. Whenever suggestions or discussions happen about how anyone should react or show their feelings about something, then the authenticity of the person will be pushed aside. It's been so obvious that Carter has been intentionally more quiet recently while watching the show because he didn't want to rain on anyone's parade. But how is this fair? Why is anyone else's reaction of the same thing more "correct" and more worthy of being accepted? Is Carter supposed to constantly censor his thoughts so he doesn't make others feel bad? Maybe it's other people's responsibility to handle their own emotions. Carter gives exact reasoning why he dislikes what he does, so I dont understand why you cant see his perspective because I do, especially since a lot of the small detail that has been ignored in the show has made the show less believable and less immersive, bringing down the overall quality of the "fantasy" we all like to live in while watching a tv show like this. I guess it just comes down to how much "bells and whistles" or "convincing" it takes for each different person for this immersion to happen or to be broken. Me for example, when I notice something like lazy writing, or lack of attention to detail when before it WAS THERE, I immediately get taken out of the experience and it is ruined for me in a big way. I imagine Carter is the same. Why is that something you think is being "overinflated", or a "critical thinker"? Its not like we are only just "looking" for stuff to dislike... its that for us its so obviously THERE, plain to see... maybe some people just pay less attention to those things than people like me, or Carter, or similar people. Why cant more people understand its just about that, nothing more.

Mysterious Figure

I have something to add to this debate but I think I’ll wait for the season finale 😭

Nomaan

very very true

yio

Fr Dianna I’m even considering blocking soon bc it’s not getting better 🤦‍♀️

Jessica

unfotunately carter is the main reactor alot of people got hooked on u guys for so he gets the most attention lol

Marc Davey

good on the boys for calling carter out tho, brig was right he was constantly contradicting his issues with the show, like saying tyrion and jaime reunion had no emotion, but we all can agree that we dont like the show cos we know how amazing it could be

Marc Davey

Carter staring forward emotionless for an entire hour did seem unlike himself, so I think it was understandable that the other fellows noticed and wanted to find out what was up with him.

Patrick

There are two camps. One camp accepts the show for its faults and even when it's not peaking can accept it and still enjoy the smaller upsides. The second can't get out of their own expectations and because it's not what they had hoped for the show, they nitpick at every little detail.

Luke Crompton

Woulda been a plus imo

Paul Durbin

Either that or he's a grown man and doesn't give af about what other people think and made up his own damn mind and you don't like it. But naw you prob right.

Paul Durbin

I can’t stress this enough, I know other people have said it but I wanted to agree that for me authenticity is one of the biggest draws for me, I like seeing people dislike some shows because I know it’s real when you do like them.

Andrew Lynch

I remember watching the last 2 seasons with my dad. He was a big fan, read the books, watched the show from the beginning. I started binging it when S6 aired, because I was not allowed to see it before that as I was still in school then and it’s obviously not an appropriate show for kids. I remember thinking how cool some scenes were, both in S7 and S8. My dad however was soooo so disappointed, I didn’t really understand it at the time. I was annoyed by his comments after every episode about how this character has gotten dumber, towards the end - about how the show is basically worthless. Literally after it ended, he never spoke of it again, never. I’ve honestly never seen him so disappointed. We’re talking about a person who took us to Dubrovnik not only for a vacation, but to see different locations that they used to film in. And for me, it was just a cool show. Now when I’m rewatching it I get some of the disappointment.

Bambina

What compelled you think this was a good thing to comment and then go ahead and actually do it?

༒ dianna ༒

Really enjoyed the discussion at the end!

GrimmHxH

Carter's reaction has been definitely tampered by the comments. He came into season 7 with the expectation of hating it because people keep shitting on S7 and S8 and he's just unwilling to enjoy the good things the season still has to offer. Yes, these final seasons have their flaws, but most people only truly hate the final 3 episodes of the show. I honestly feel like his "dislike" isn't even genuine. He just wants to be a hater to please the haters in the comments. Really annoying.

Junior

My point was that executing Watch desserters by the sword is not the same as executing POWs by fire. Similarly, people dying during battle (like on the Blackwater or Field of Fire ) is not the same as people being killed after the fight has ended. If you think those are the same, then we will have to agree to disagree. As I said, I didn't necessarily think that Dany was wrong to burn them, but I also don't think that people in that world should just be ok with it. When Melisandre was burning people for the Lord of Light, it was bad. Jon put an arrow through Mance to put him out of his misery. And since no one alive in Westeros has any idea about dragon fire, I wouldn't expect them to be cheering for death by fire.

Lolilie

Carter, you’re doing great sweety, we appreciate you.

Dude Man McGee

No

llB0JANGLESll

Well said!

llB0JANGLESll

im dead

Amna 🍉

Hey Carter, I'm sorry you're feeling targeted by everyone :( the real ones appreciate your honesty and seeing your REAL reactions to all the shows we watch. I think the "haters" nitpicking your reactions are similar to you where they are so invested in YOU and love experiencing your highs with you. Now they are sad that you're experiencing lows with this season. And as a result they are reacting badly to it. I don’t think they are intentionally trying to make you feel bad for keeping it real, but I'm sorry they are. I'm sure that a lot of GOT fans, including me, completely agree with all your takes (postive and negative). I'm also glad you guys are able to communicate respectfully with each other about these types of things. Don't let viewers' opinions get you down! You're allowed to feel whatever you feel. If people have a problem with it, they don't have to subscribe and watch, it's as simple as that 🤷‍♀️ You guys started this channel to experience shows together. And you guys were awesome enough to let us in on this! So THANK YOU! keep doing what you guys are doing <3

Tiga

I think Carter will enjoy Succession. He seems to enjoy good, clever dialogue more than anything else.

Roan Gomez

You made me snort with this comment lmao 🤣

Alexa

I felt like I was witnessing a family therapy session during the outro there 🫣 I'm impressed by how well you guys communicate. Carter for voicing his feelings and opinions, and Cannon for trying to help Carter find a solution to the problem. All of you keep your cool with each other and it is part of why you are so enjoyable to watch compared to some reactors. Carter, it can suck to get to a point in a series you have grown to love, and be faced with flaws that take away from your enjoyment. I personally didn't feel the way you did at this point in the show because of hype, but on this rewatch I can definitely see the things you are talking about. Thanks for the quality reaction as always, boys 🫡

Alexa

Oh that's cool! Please share your thoughts with us as the episodes come out. It'd be fun to see what you think as well. I don't know how you stopped mid season. I could never xD

Nikita M

At the end of the day I think all of it comes from a place of love because people and the Geks love Carter and want him to enjoy the show with them or more accurately share the experience. It's in our nature to want to relate to others.

Nikita M

I like the part where bran said “it’s wargin time” then warged all over the place

Blake

58:50 Carter kinda just nails the last 2 seasons. There's no emotion. Every conversation is strictly transactional. Bullet points to move the story along. It's really what ruins the show. We don't get those amazing dialogue moments we saw in the first few seasons between characters like Varys and Little Finger.

Thomas Strunk

Some people, myself included, don't express everything so outwardly. I prefer him being authentic than forcing an over the top reaction just for the "reaction" channel's sake. I originally subscribed on Youtube because I saw no exaggeration and fake reactions. I think their overall group vibe is great as it is. :)

Nikita M

I completely agree with Carter. The last seasons have great moments, but the writing could be so much better. Imagine if the quality of the first four seasons was maintained throughout the entirety of the show.

Riley

Absolutely loved this entire outro boys!!! Keep it real 😁

Adin

He had to take a second to reevaluate his whole experience 😭😭😭

Adin

Yo cannon’s deep sigh after Carter explaining why it’s mid is the funniest thing I’ve ever seen

Adin

LOL ur right I’m usually lurking but wanted to give my 2 cents 😭

Billie

Yeah I finally watched all and was waiting for Carter to be depressed as implied, but never saw it lol. A couple eye rolls at the Jaime scene and Arya lock scene, but I eyerolled at them too the first time. Overall what he actually said, that he enjoyed it (but didn't like a couple things) seems true to me. I personally like to vent about my frustrations first before I share excitement because it does weigh a bit heavier on me at first, it's like a problem to solve. So I totally see it seeming like he's just immediately trying to bring everything down, when really it's just prioritizing certain thoughts and feelings in an opposite way, maybe? Ionno, but I do also hope that there aren't a bunch of comments next time about Carter, because I'm tired of defending him and need a break lol In the words of Cara Cunningham, let's just leave Carter alone 😭 My expressions never match my words, it's part of my condition lol, I've been misunderstood every day of my life because of it, but it just is what it is. GOODNIGHT 😴

Lady Stoneheart (Uncat)

carter i wouldnt worry to much about what other people think. youre allowed to have your opinion

Jonesy

If you all ever break up the band over how you disagree about a show. Literally remove tampon and delete channel. 🤣🤣🤣🤣. If this comment offends people sorry. Unless its Sean

llB0JANGLESll

I was just noticing this. I was like, I like this??? 😅

Lady Stoneheart (Uncat)

Carter its totally fine to have your opinions on the show. It feels bad that a show you loved so much is disappointing you. I think its totally fine you have this attitude towards it. Just get through one more season and we can move forward. Sorry boss. There are more shows to come to lift your spirts and to get peak content from. We all love you still even if we disagree. I think by the end of the outro everything kind of evened out. You guys are top tier reactors. You aren’t the first to shit on GOT and you wont be the last. Its cool. Im still excited to watch with yall.

llB0JANGLESll

Carter feels like this because he was was so invested and clearly loved the show sm. we understand ur frustration 100% the quality of the show has declined immensely and the only reason the show is still somewhat good is because we just love the characters and want to know where this story could go. I personally didn’t even think Carter had no reaction he seemed to be smiling and commenting on some stuff there just wasn’t anything crazy happening… A lot of us love hearing ur thoughts Carter so please don’t feel bad about anything and don’t feel like u need to change!!

Kare

Can you explain your points, I’d be interested to hear you defend the showrunners as you say

Sean Carroll

Worst thing is that it takes Jon 1-2 months to sail to the wall, in that time are we supposed to think that these storyline’s are just on pause and nothing happens in that 2 months 1. Kings landing 2. Dany 3. Winterfell 4. Unsullied whereabouts 5. Iron fleet whereabouts 6. Theons whereabouts

Sean Carroll

Was being sarcastic, I have a great life but I’m sure you already knew that

Sean Carroll

Interesting

Sean Carroll

Fr… Hope people can start to actually listen to Carter and go off his word. And stop trying to make their own interpretation after he literally said not to.

Shadow

season 7 was the last decent season of GOT, afterwards I was wishing it would end. DnD got promised to write a new star wars series. and so they rushed and completely fucked over GoT and ended up not getting star wars anyway. complete and utter failure from greed on DnD

Charlie Bronson

Then you don’t know the purpose I bring forth. I have no qualms with them hating or loving the show. I’m just not surprised by Carter’s reaction at all. I expect their reactions to be much less favourable but I won’t be celebrating it at all if I turn out to be correct.

Sean Carroll

Really?

Sean Carroll

I understand where Carter's coming from, but I, personally, don't let a few bad moments ruin the whole experience because there was so much more good that happened than bad this episode.

Animeke

Carter your opinions are so valid! So many people feel this way and for good reason! We get your frustration 💖

Lexi Mae

carter the group leader HAHAH

Sanji

Can we not have a million comments about Carter's reaction in the next video? Like, just accept his reaction and feelings for the show as they are.

TheSauceGuy

lmao

TheSauceGuy

Jack is clearly the real main character

TheSauceGuy

He would hate them lol. He criticizes smaller aspects of HotD like many others, but he focuses on writing elements rather than pacing there. He could write a book on what he disliked about GoT as a show.

TheSauceGuy

Well, Sean, at least you have some level of self-awareness. Some people have absolutely none at all. 😂

Marcusinmilw

We need someone to say the "bad pussy" line again.

TheSauceGuy

Well, clearly some people don't want to hear honesty and others just blame commenters as if he's incapable of formulating his own opinions. I agree with you though that this is what he should do regardless.

TheSauceGuy

I agree with everything you said lol. Also, rare Billie appearance.

TheSauceGuy

Carter is just vocal about how he feels even if it goes against the grain. I'm the same way and there are unfortunately too many people (especially online) who can't handle differing opinions. As a genuine reaction channel, Carter should be genuine. This episode wasn't bad but he did look miserable last episode lmao, but I don't think he should hide anything even if it "sucks the energy" out of the room. It'd probably be better to discuss positives first or something though.

TheSauceGuy

assuming sarcasm but idk lol

TheSauceGuy

I already know Sean is jumping with joy with Carter’s post discussion 😭

Sanji

The white walker expedition squad is a group of all my favorite people. The A Team fr 🔥

Sanji

?

Shadow

It's almost like the past doesn't matter, everything now is about what's next

kami

Ngl I liked this episode much more than the last one.

Sanji

I love Carter's facial expressions, that's exactly how I feel lol

kami

If anything I wish Carter voiced his criticisms more, it seems he holds back alot. Maybe to avoid spoiling the mood ig, but trust me a lot of people on the same page as you with these last couple seasons, and no matter what others say you can't deny the drop in character intelligence (notable in Tyrion, Littlefinger, Varys), the rushed nature of the show, many plot holes, the simplification of the politics, I could go on. So I totally get what Carter means when he says he's disappointed. If I could make a weird comparison it's like Anakin in Star Wars. As Darth Vader he is still strong and in the top echelon of Force users, but if he'd never lost half his body he would've literally been unreal and leagues above even the best, a class of his own. Basically what GoT could've been vs what it is now, still a top tier show but never what it might have been.

Timmy Turner

Oof. Can't imagine how that one was

Griffin

Just remembering what happens in the next episode gives me chills, I don't know if I'm ready to watch it again

kami

Not surprising

Griffin

Dialogue felt much better this episode than the last imo 👍

Sanji

Carter the true king of the gek kingdom

kami

That discussion at the end was my favorite out of any of your videos that I have seen, and I was a patron during the AOT days. I usually comment on One Piece episodes because it's my GOAT, but I had to let you guys know that I thought everyone contributed to that discussion to their utmost and you all expressed yourselves very clearly. Keep it coming!

rhett donaldson

TBF, s7 was not universally loved, but it didn't get the level of hate while airing that it does from some people now. I think then, most of us *hoped* that it was a speed bump and that D&D would pull through, not that it was a portent of what was to come. The truth is always somewhere in between the die hards and the haters. Also, both can be true. People can be influenced by the fact they've heard others opinions and it can be a factor that influences their preconceptions without it being the sole reason for their opinion. Once they've heard someone's opinion -- much like a spoiler -- that bell can't be unrung. Maybe Carter is noticing certain negatives he wouldn't have if not tipped off to look for them before or being extra critical than he would be, maybe not. There's no way for us to ever know. But complaining about this also changes nothing, and it's unavoidable for a show that's been out this long and how strong people's opinions are on it.

Griffin

My predictions: - Daenerys kills Cersei and takes over Westeros/Lannister Army - She sends all armies to fight the white walkers. Arya, Sansa, Jamie die in white walker war. - Daenerys turns evil after the white walker war. - She ends up killing Jorah, Tyrion, and Varys for trying to stop her. - Jon Snow kills her and becomes the King of Westeros. He also takes ownership of a single dragon. - Bran becomes hand of the king. Sam becomes King’s maester. - Theon becomes King of the Iron Islands. - *Maybe Arya/Sansa doesn’t die and becomes Warden of the North. -* Maybe Jorah tries to protect Daenerys, and dies to Jon Snow. -* Maybe Jon Snow and Daenerys kill each other and Bran becomes king. -* Maybe white walkers kill everyone (which is why everyone hates season 8)

Sanji

Yes, lets please keep the s7/s8 circlejerk alive. Fuck you Carter. Sheep.

Patrick

I actually prefer when the reactors lock in and focus on the show till the end.

Niffol

I've never had any problems with any of your reactions. if someone has a negative reaction its the same as having a positive. It's really not a big deal guys lol

Niffol

Correct take once again Carter.

Niffol

Agree with all your criticisms, though some I could explain away if feeling generous to the showrunners. This one is the worst of the season for me. Still enjoy it, but negatives are steeped high on this one. Best scene for me in this episode is Gendrys return, and it's nothing but flagrant fan service and humor -- but I did enjoy it immensely. Also Jon petting the dragon was cool, but I can imagine a s3/s4 era D&D making that moment so much more special, back when they cared.

Griffin

I'm not sure if anyone mentionned this but Rhaegar getting an annulment from Elia Martell doesn't make any sense. Annulment means his marriage with Elia was non existent and his kids have no titles anymore. He would never do that. Rhaegar was obsessed with having three children, he wanted to replicate Aegon the Conqueror and his two sisterwives, Visenya and Rhaenys. Rhaegar and Lyanna's marriage would not be accepted under Faith of the Seven therefore Jon is still a bastard. Also, ELIA DESERVED BETTER THAN THAT RAT.

Amna 🍉

This needs more likes

Griffin

@Samuel so I think the concern is two fold 1) traveling scenes allow for intimate character moments, which s7 severely lack and most of the ones we get are botched. 2) because they decided to skip all travel, they decide to bend time so that things that would take months seemingly take the same amount of time as something that takes days (a raven arrives in a city which should take just a few days takes the same time as a man on horseback which takes weeks, etc). It breaks the logic of the world that we've been taught, and that greatly breaks immersion. According to how much travel has been done by the armies, etc, Jon met Dani for the first time like 8 months ago now... that doesn't seem right for what little interaction they've had.

Griffin

Yeah. I think essentially Dani sailing to Westeros should have marked the *halfway* point in the show. If you list out the number of major plotpoints before and after that moment, it's surprisingly even. But no, we got 13 episodes. 🫠

Griffin

Thank youuu!!

gigi

Jenny of Oldstones mentioned!

Jarvis

Honestly I enjoyed the discussion (almost argument) at the end. It was very raw and genuine. Carter isn’t wrong in feeling what he feels and I welcome his criticisms towards these later seasons of GOT because it just shows how much he has invested emotionally into it. Was he contradicting himself a lot? Yes! But I think it’s due to how conflicted he feels with what he is watching. He wants to love it but can’t because of the illogical decisions characters are making and nonexistent build up to scenes that would arguably break the internet if they had been handled correctly. But to think that at one point Carter and C/B didn’t watch the show due to the hype and now they’re so engrossed with the series and are truly invested into it is insane to watch in real time. This is why I pay to watch you guys bc I know I’m not getting opinions that are pandering to the audience. I felt everything you guys felt. Not as “negatively” as Carter but I definitely had my moments where I was trying to be positive bc I was hoping S8 would be worth any gripes I had about what I was watching at the time. Anyways, I’ll still be here eagerly waiting for reactions, positive or not 🫶

lola

Especially after how emotional their goodbye was the last time they saw each other

Griffin

I feel bad that Carter is feeling bad. It sucks he feels he can't be real without getting dragged. I definitely agree with the others that from outsider perspective, it did seem like he wasn't enjoying himself at all during the reaction, and I guess that maybe bothered them thinking he wasnt enjoying it at all? At the same time, if he says he's enjoying it, we have to take him at his word rather than our assumptions. I also agree with all of Carters criticisms, D&D did the character moments dirty by focusing only on the big epic moments and it hurts and feels like a betrayal after we've invested so much in the characters. All the in-between moments are just setup for the big epic moments, and characters motivations and key relationship moments are thrown out the window. While it's still better than like 90% of TV, it's not what we were spoiled with for so long, and that sucks. Imagine feeling it in real time after waiting a year for this season. Oof. The D&D hate is warranted. Realistically, the good epic moments get *better* and the bad character writing gets *worse* moving forward, so figuring this out so everyone feels good about the reactions asap is important. As far as the "air getting sucked out of the room" thing, maybe everyone agree to go over what they liked together first then disliked together after? That way all the "excited" talk can go before negatives?

Griffin

"these actors, these faces" - Dan & Dave, who dk what it's like to be genuine human beings, fascinated by actors able to act like human beings, so direct them to ✨emote moar✨, as if that's how one comes across as human

Lady Stoneheart (Uncat)

I love that Carter allows himself to be honest about how he feels. It's simply that he's dissapointed with it, and he's not faking it, and I think that's great. For me it's also awesome that the other made their point, talking through it as adults, even when the discussion can make them 'lose money', I love they stay true to the essence of the channel. Long life to the GEKs!

JulioLG

Literally. If you love it, you’re wrong. If you hate it, you’re wrong. Like what is going on with this fandom lol

Lydia

Well i for one do alot of visualization thru fictional characters. I take inspiration and often sit alone, processing my feelings through concepts and scenes depicted in my favourite shows. This is can lead hate or sometimes even criticism of the show/characters, feel like the most intimate personal attack towards myself and my whole being. I understand that i might just be a me-thing and not entirely healthy but it has kept me going thru some tough times in life and will continue to do so.

hollow soul

Man, I can already see how Carter is going to tear season eight apart and it’s going to be so vindicating. It’s so depressing to see such an amazing high-tier level show fall so far from grace. The degradation in quality was not even so obvious when it was still airing live until season eight, which just retrospectively casted a giant spotlight on how brittle the writing had become even in season seven.

Dani G

Loved the discussion at the end

Zipzzty

Same, I really didnt notice it. He's essentially been like this for all 5 episodes and he was worse in episode 4 so to me he looked to be enjoying this a little more

Rayanh LaNansha

About the conversation they had at the end, I understand what Cannon and Brig meant... the problem is not that you show that you liked or hated the episode. The problem is that you don’t have any reaction in a channel of.... Reaction?! It would be even better if it was shown that you are not really enjoying it and what is frustrating you. Otherwise, just see someone standing still for 1 hour without saying anything. But I also understand Carter, it’s extremely frustrating.

Harper

hahaha definitely, I seriously noticed that in episode 4 and the lack of pretense actually cracked me up.

Rayanh LaNansha

maybe it’s not being opinionated but perhaps viewing the show from a specific point. For some People the entertainment/fan service aspects can be reward enough but for others bad writing can just leave a bitter taste and at least that’s how I felt with this episode. Sansa and Arya. Tyrion and Jaime. And so on. 😐😐😐 years of character work just making them do things that make no sense.

Billie

ngl seeing the comments in GOT reactions and Naruto reactions, I feel like I can understand where carter is coming from. it feels like because he’s opinionated in a different way than the other geks are, people react more strongly to that? whether it’s Naruto or GOT, I feel like unless the reactor is clearly missing a point of the show/film’s point, it shouldn’t be nitpicked and it shouldn’t affect your opinion of that show / anime as the viewer anyways. 🤷🏽‍♀️

Billie

Kinda agree with all of Carter's critiques of this season, though I do appreciate that Cannon and Brigg are still enjoying it more actively! As far as Carter's reactions I feel like I can't be too upset or anything because there are more people then just him on the couch and ya, phony reactions aren't really the way to go + the way I see it is that while not all commentary videos are reaction videos, all reaction vids are lk commentary vids, so I definitely take the things he takes time to say into account. Hope he doesn't feel entirely unheard and knows that we appreciate him expanding on his thoughts at the end, even if the episode isn't hitting in the moment!

Saki 🏴‍☠️✨

Was about to type a comment about this but you said everything I wanted to say. I don't see the people disagreeing with Sean letting his comments change their opinion about the show and vice versa with Sean not changing his stance despite the numerous comments critiquing him. No one says anything about "comments affecting their reaction" when they're positive towards a show. It's almost as if a negative reaction can't be their genuine feelings.

pyx

To be honest a lot of people were annoyed with mckay 🤷🏽‍♀️ but I get what you’re saying

Billie

Carter saying it was weightless is exactly right. The stuff is good, but it's missing the stuff that would normally make you excited to see it happen. It's like yeah, it happened. Yeah, they had emotions about it, but as a watcher, I wasn't particularly taken in either. The other best way to describe this is how he said it was in episode 3: like watching good TV. The intricacies drawn from the source material are missing. The fear of anyone dying at any time is gone. I still feel Jamie should've died during that fight with the dothrakis. It would've made the rest of the season so much more unpredictable because he's been evading death for so long, plus it really would've broken Cersei and risen the stakes even more.

Rayanh LaNansha

Season 7 is pretty much collateral from season 8. People didn't like how season 8 went so they retroactively critique season 7. When season 7 aired, most people loved it. After season 8, people then went back and started heavily critiquing season 7.

Donnel

@Brett They've said several times that people speaking poorly about it has actually helped them enjoy it more, because it lowered their expectations to the point where they can be pleasantly surprised by things, rather then focusing entirely on the fall off

Saki 🏴‍☠️✨

It’s CW/Hallmark material 😂

GreetswithJudgement

The biggest drawback from them shortening the number of episodes in the last two seasons the interactions between characters. Other than a few stand out moments most interactions that we have been waiting for are not as long or thought out as they should’ve been. Season eight has many of the worst offenders of this

Vernus

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༒ dianna ༒

I understand what Carter is trying to say just a bit too many negative context words making him sound like it’s a god awful scene. It’s just disappointing and that’s the best way to describe it. Breakdown videos and rewrites that other people make really dig it in farther as well

Vernus

LMAO I was like damn this feels like family issues whats going on

༒ dianna ༒

Its even crazy that you have to actually block people because they don’t know boundaries and respect.

༒ dianna ༒

Kamina 1

Agree with Carter, the emotionless meet up between Jamie and Tyrion, could of been so much better - I wish they had taken their time more with some of the scenes in this season

Sean Johnson

Carter was contradicting himself in that outro. Cannon and Brig were calmly cookin him without even trying lol. Even Jack was cookin. It was as if Carter was trying too hard to find the perfect words, but ended up all over the place. Dude just speak from your heart. Perfection isn't achievable. Don't be afraid to say the wrong thing.

Kamina 1

The "little finger put his notes up his buns" comment was f'ing hilarious

Sean Johnson

Fye pfp

castles in the air

I think Carter disappointment comes from how invested and how much he loves this show, there are a bunch of things I dislike about this season and I understand how he feels being a person that thoroughly enjoys details and well build up and deliver scenes with emotions. One of the things I look forward to most in these reactions are your takes, so I understand why you being quiet is a lot more noticeable than any other member, you stand out a lot more because of how you deliver your reaction. Your frustration is understandable! Please continue to just be honest about how you feel, that's all we want to hear.

༒ dianna ༒

one thing i will say about my first watch vs this rewatch (i haven’t rewatched the last two seasons) is that i just don’t remember everything being this.. corny 🫣 idek why but the jaime/cersei scene actually had me dying cus why did jaime look at her like that at 38:50 😂

alexis ♡︎

Carter going through the stages of grief with these later seasons is so relatable it hurts.

Jared Long

CARTER, I NEED YOU TO FORGIVE ME FOR CRITICIZING YOU IN THE PREVIOUS EPISODES OF THIS SEASON 😭😭 Watching this episode I was able to relive everything that made me angry during the last few seasons, and that only gets worse... the fact that Sam finds a document that annuls Rhaegar’s marriage with Elia is absurd on so many levels... there is no divorce in Westeros and even if there was only who could authorize this was the king, which is not what happened. It’s so much script scoop and things played without explanation just to make the pieces fit together that it annoys me. Jon is a bastard and period.

Harper

Not really, they can think for themselves. They heard how hated/controversial the AoT ending was and still loved it. And Brig and Cannon have said like 10 times they enjoy the season.

ssj4rit

I am now a Carter Stan the writing is so mid the last two seasons

Andrew Lynch

Brett

Man the beyond the wall plotline is genuinely one of the dumbest things I’ve ever seen on tv. Like we need to convince Cersei who hates and who doesn’t even have that many soldier to fight with us for some reason. I can’t even really put it to words like it’s such a pure fanservice moment to have all of the cool badass characters together in one spot. Jon literally fought a white in season one who got resurrected AT THE WALL. Why can’t he just have a dead body at the wall just resurrect. They literally burn bodies because they come back to life so why do they need to go beyond the wall. So disappointing that none of the cast sees a flaw with this plan.

Mitch

Carter, you definitely wear your heart on your sleeve. Cannon is right, you may be enjoying it to some degree but your face says otherwise. It almost looks like you're pouting. LOL. But I understand. D&D were done with the show at this point and were rushing episodes to just get it over with. We ALL noticed it at this time and you guys are seeing it too. There are still enjoyable episodes but I think you really have to turn your brain off and not nitpick everything, if you can.

Teri M

same thing

Ayaulym🇰🇿

Carter couldn't be more valid. He is completely right, especially about peoples (including geks') reaction to his opinions. Like if MckAy is completely silent like 5-6 episodes of Haikyuu, literally being like "I don't really like this show YET", then everyone's fine with it. But if Carter expresses any sort of negative opinion or is silent for 1 episode then all hell breaks loose. Like with Naruto OG. The same thing happens when he likes something that everyone on the couch dislikes. Like with Code Geass and the Suzaku moment. I completely understand his frustration. Let him be. It is annoying me to see people in the comments coming at him, let alone geks sometimes being too caught up on his opinion (though obviously it's different). Especially when he is like very valid. Actually I'm glad that he is expressing his opinions freely. As a fan of GOT, he is a representation of the WHOLE FANDOM. It doesn't bother me if Carter is not enjoying the show as much as others, because it is still a REACTION. And I hate season 7 so I'd be more mad if all the reactions where like 'Oh, everything is still cool" because it is NOT. I gave up on some reaction channels because of how way too positive they were. For people in the comments, please STOP like literally STOP asking for 'certain reactions'. It is annoying and I hate that geks always have to explain themselves in the videos because of some comments. If you want all positive reactions then go to YouTube, majority of reactors always are faking their enjoyment to please people like yall. GOT reactions officially made me a Carter stan. So Carter, pls don't change. Don't fake, don't say anything you don't necessarily mean, and dude if McKay was allowed to stay silent for the beginning of Haikyuu (which was okay, really) then you're too. Generelly all the geks are if that's how they feel. Don't let all those commentators affect your PERSONAL experience of the show and GENUINE reactions.

Ayaulym🇰🇿

Respect to you guys for leaving the little discussion in at the end of the episode. Leave it to GOT to start arguments 😅 As a watcher of both the GOT and Haikyuu reactions, Carter staying quiet here and McKay staying quiet there, were both reactions! It's real! You don't have to like what you're watching, I wanna see a real reaction in the end, not something faked for the audience 😊

Brittany (Ultraanimegirl4)

I understand what Carter is talking about, and I think that a lot of the complaints about the last two seasons are in the same breadth. Things happen too fast with minimal buildup, characters teleport, and characters essentially betray things they stood for in the past. I also feel like I enjoy a decent amount of season 7 and 8 but there are a lot of things that don't feel close to the previous seasons' emotion and depth

Brittany (Ultraanimegirl4)

What is up with the revisionist history here? When this season first came out there were a ton of complaints which were constantly trending on multiple different social media platforms. I was incredibly disappointed at this point with how hard they fumbled the writing especially the characterization of Arya, Little Finger, and Tyrion. Also, why are you saying that Carter is being influenced by the comments when the boys have outright explained that they don't appreciate these types of posts? Imagine we're buddies and you say "I don't like movie X for reasons Y" and I tell you "Actually the only reason you don't like it is because of the bad reviews." How would that make you feel? How are you not picking up on the basic social dynamics here?

Nepenthe

this is where I left off 😭 after this i’m going to be reacting with yall im excited and sad 😫😫

gigi

I also felt strangely unmoved during the Tyrion-Jaime scene. It was a perfunctory interaction that felt worse for knowing their relationship was taking backseat to the writers getting pieces into position.

Loren Harway

Carter not seeing the emotion in that scene is surprising honestly. There was plenty of weight. The two of them knew they shouldn't be meeting. Jaime said the next time he saw him he would kill him, how did you want him to react when he saw Tyrion? It's his brother, he can't kill him even though he's incredibly pissed off. I don't disagree that the setup for the scene wasn't there, but saying the scene in general was emotionless is disingenuous. I appreciate that you're voicing your opinion on the matter, Carter. After all, that's why we are here, to see all of your reactions and hear your opinions. You being disappointed is exactly the emotion a lot of us felt watching this show live. The first 6 seasons were so good, and then the show does this, where its obviously rushed. I will say, Arya's abilities being a point of contention is funny. We didn't see any of her training really. We just saw her get sent out to do missions, then waif beating her up lol. There's no telling what else she was doing. You guys caught it sort of, but the slight little nod to Rhagar and Lyanna being married, means that Jon isn't a bastard at all. Just for Gilly to say it in passing and Sam not even realizing what she's saying. Pretty funny honestly

Dakota

I stand with carter

farkzzy

Telling people to enjoy something by ignoring its flaws is not a good argument. Never settle for less. The thing about GOT is that it was SO GOOD! And then it resulted to this! THIS could have been so much better! That’s what Carter is saying. He’s disappointed as many fans were and are! Y’all know exactly what Carter is saying. It’s a reaction channel not a we need to agree on all things all the time channel. Agree to disagree. Carter has always said he looks at things objectively that writing and plot is important to him….how is his reaction confusing or contradictory? If anything maybe everyone else is not being truthful and trying to convince the crowd they’re enjoying it while ignoring the flaws. It works both ways.

GreetswithJudgement

i think it also helps mckay normally doesnt speak alot anyway and carter does, he is always vocal, it makes it more obvious too. You prob are correct with seeing something so good being less good and be dissapointed t was not better or what it couldve been. I think it just hits him more then the rest, i loved their discussion.

Chrisiyyi

One of my biggest peeves is when people want to just sit silently after 3x9 but feel they have to "say something" because "it's a react channel". Reactions don't have to be verbal. My fav GoT reactor sat in silence for like 6 mins then just shut it off and even began the next one silent a week later posted, and it was cathartic because we all felt that, you don't have to always verbalize what you're feeling. In a moment like that stunned silence IS the authentic and appropriate reaction. Even book readers threw their books and refused to read for weeks after Red Wedding chapter.

Lady Stoneheart (Uncat)

I'm just saying that I didn't hear anything either while I was watching, I didn't know it was disappointing to anyone but me for awhile. I had a lot going on suddenly right after the final season, then there was lock downs ... I was clueless about the outside for a bit, then once locked back realized the scale of opinions myself.

Lady Stoneheart (Uncat)

Tyrion is pissing me off as the season goes. Him giving stupid advices that sometimes make ABSOLUTELY no sense is just.. ugh. I also hate how the show dramatizes whenever Daenerys kills literally SOLDIERS. Like we've seen so much death in this show by the hands of many characters, but when Daenerys does what Rob or Stannis would do she is shown to be cruel. It is ridiculous. The only difference between Daenerys and everyone else is that she burns, which is literally what Targeryans did for centuries instead of beheading, and she is 'foreign'. How can she be foreign when there are still like 3 generations who lived under Targaryen rule? There's clearly a double standard when it comes to her. The whole 'Cersei is my queen even though she destroyed house Tyrell, but at least she was born and raised here' is THE stupidest thing ever. And when you think the show couldn't get worse... Remember when the mob attacked Joffrey because they were hungry? Where are all those people when their queen literally burned like 500 people in their version of church. Why the country so adamant to accept a female ruler just lets Cersei take it. Why are people still so loyal to her? Where are all the houses of Dorne? Remember when Ned was beheaded and how it led to the start of the all out war? Or how Tyrion was kidnapped for a whole season and the consequences it had? Now houses are all dying like flies yet there's no dread, consequence, anything at all. Everything is just a spectacle. And dialgue consists of "You came" "Yes" "I didn't expect you too" "You should've" Half of the stuff that is said is just to fill the air. Look at what Tyrion, Little Finger and Varys. Smartest men of the country reduced to stating the obvious and making 'funny' remarks. Since Tyrion reached Daenerys all he has been doing is stating the obvious, make lamest jokes ever, or make mistakes. Little Finger, a man for whom chaos is a ladder, who literally is 5 steps ahead is suddenly this pathetic shell of a man he used to be. And Varys... name me one thing Varys has actually done, besides teleporting couple of times. And this is a man who could keep up with Little Finger in his prime. Not Jaime 'things i do for love' Lannister turning into this boring kind man. Like he still can do great while also having a personality. Everything about this season is a wasted potential. There is no game in 'Game of thrones' here. Nothing even surprises, just continues to dissapoint

Ayaulym🇰🇿

My very first watch alone with no influences I felt exactly like this. You just didn't know I existed lol. We exist you just didn't hear us because tbh I was in denial. It hurt, I was confused, I thought it was me, and I was sad and didn't even want to talk about it really. Now I can, now I do. My first watch was up to the month before the final season came out too so by the time I could personally talk about it everyone was too, but it makes it look like hindsight when it never was in the moment. I was actually sitting mulling about S7 in particular while waiting for 8 feeling like crap and I'm actually really glad I didn't have an entire 1000+ community to tell me my feelings were invalid. Only a few people made me feel crazy, then endless review vids came out saying everything I felt too and I was relieved I wasn't alone. I hate that people think those vids made me critical. It's invalidating who I am as a whole person. Now I sound like a broken record like Sean about this but people are so sure no one disliked S7 when the visceral pain is still vivid for me lol.

Lady Stoneheart (Uncat)

After watching this I just wanna say I appreciate you boys. I never loved reaction channels and I don’t even really watch YouTube much anymore, but I’m here because I love your reactions and post video discussions. Positive or negative, I enjoy listening to your thoughts and opinions on shows and clearly so do a lot of other people. So thanks for being yourselves boys and don’t ever change 😁

Richie Sour

Proud of you boys for the healthy discussion at the end! I think the best reactors are authentic, for better or worse, so everyone should let Carter react in the way that’s genuine to him. Cannon and Brig should just accept that and try not to let it impact their enjoyment.

Nikki Pierre

Nah he made it clear every episode what he liked about the show, now that it's gone, of course he isn't going to be as pleased. How is that hard to understand? When the thing you like best about something is gone, you can't miss it, it can't sour the rest of the experience going forward??? I'm so confused by this honestly.

Lady Stoneheart (Uncat)

Man I love Davos he's so funny

Brittany (Ultraanimegirl4)

While I understand the argument of "we're a reaction channel, and you just sat there without saying anything for an hour," I completely disagree, at least from my perspective as a viewer. I could see the point if this was a new show and Carter was acting that way, but we’re in the seventh season of a series. By now, we’ve gotten to know how each of you generally feels going into an episode, and we have a sense of your personalities. Even just from Carter's facial expressions, it’s easy to tell what he’s feeling. When McKay did something similar during eight episodes of Haikyuu, no one criticized him. As fans, we understand McKay’s personality. I even joked in the comments during episode 8 or 9 about how we (Haikyuu fans) “won” because McKay actually said two words. If my opinion matters at all, please don't feel like you have to force a reaction when you're disappointed or quiet. It’s not like you’re silent or upset about everything. When you're hyped, you yell; when you’re sad, you cry. So if you’re disappointed, it makes sense that you’d be quiet or groaning. Those real, relatable reactions are exactly why I watch your channel. Honestly, I reacted much like Carter when I watched the final seasons. I don’t know if he shares the same reasons as me, but it felt like I was watching one of my favorite works of art die. You could say I was grieving it, to the point where I couldn’t even enjoy the good parts. Now, after all this time, I’m rewatching it for the first time, and having made peace with how things turned out, I’m able to accept it for what it is. Everyone processes things differently, which is what makes reactions so interesting to watch. I’d rather see someone as upset as Carter than watch a group of people who just feel indifferent. This might be the longest thing i've written in a single comment gg

JuancaMX

Bringing up Dany when someone mentions Jon Snow? Ur not beating the hater allegations

Nomaan

You guys leaving comments saying that Carter (or any of the guys) are being "influenced" by negative comments are being incredibly disrespectful. I understand that's probably not your intention, but they've mentioned multiple times that that is not true and they've made it clear that those types of comments are annoying to them. It's disrespectful because you're implying that they aren't able to come to their own conclusions about what they like or dislike, and are just parroting what people are saying in the comments. It's even worse when you argue and say that they are being influenced when they have outright said that isn't true. That's gaslighting. They've said they're coming to their own conclusions yet some of you are saying "no, actually you haven't and you're wrong and you are being influenced" which is ridiculously annoying. Just chill out.

Nepenthe

The honored one

Bambina

Love the transparency. Really good to see

spoons

I honestly think that the issue is that he is watching earlier seasons with other people, putting earlier seasons (1 - 4) in direct comparison with the latest ones will only highlight how bad the writing and the pacing actually is. The few extremely cool scenes can get a smile out of you while they last but as soon as they are over you're back lamenting what the series could've been as a whole had D&D been more competent and less egotistical.

JuancaMX

It’s STILL one of my top 3 favorite shows ever made and the great outweighs the bad ten fold, it’s just disappointment at “what could have been” not anger at what it is

Euphemia Isobel

I’m really impressed about how well articulated you all were about your feelings and how you were trying to see it from each other point of view to find a solution. To me It just shows how much you care about each other and It’s always good to air out indifferences instead of holding them in. I actually appreciated the transparency because I think it shows your passion for the show and what you guys are doing. I like hearing your thoughts and discussions, good or bad. If it was all sunshine and roses it wouldn’t be interesting to watch your reactions. Keep up the good work and hang in there, it’s only a few episodes left.

Linn

this is one of the stupidest comments ive seen under one of these videos and thats no small feat. reading comprehension is at an all time low

Harrison Hird

don’t think that those are the intentions of the other geks at all. The way Carter expresses his dissapprovals just seem overinflated & a bit forced as if he is trying to intentionally hate - honestly think the geks are not annoyed at all with his gripes but just frustrated/annoyed with the tone he has coming into & during reactions as if he is specifically looking for things to critique/dislike. Comments that compliment Carter’s critical thinking & imply that one is not “plot savvy” or a “critical thinker” if one enjoys certain episodes I think is a source of Carter’s overinflated criticisms as Carter wants to portray himself as a “great critic” & “writing snob” to the Patreon community so even things he may enjoy he feels less inclined to show regarding his own expressions. That being said, I think Carter’s thought/reactions are for the most part completely genuine but at times , from a viewers perspective- Carter’s expression/demeanor can seem forced/intentionally hateful which I think is the source of the other geks irritability/exasperation.

Karlsefni

I think Carter is chillin, even if he’s silent throughout. It’s only gonna get weirder as the show goes on

Mike Donohue

or maybe, like most people do he has noticed a massive drop in quality from the earlier seasons.

Harrison Hird

To enjoy season 7 and 8 y’all going to discard logic 😭😭 even 6 was pushing it but they won people back with that ending but this 2 season mannn just enjoy the characters and the action atleast 😮‍💨😮‍💨

Carlos arcos

Love GOT or hate GOT but you can't ignore GOT. That's the magic of this show.

Leo

He can’t do that until he finishes the books 😂

Bellamy Blake

The arguments about enjoying the show after bringing back memories, this show tears people apart with difference of opinion 😂 glad to see you guys getting the full experience

Apex

way out of my league but you are here in Patreon comment section about watchalong preaching like you think you are Mother Theresa? Really? for real? grow up man. you talk like a like a grown ass dude but act like a 12 years old. This is GOT patreon watchalong comment section. Not CNN page comment section.

Anthony Rodriguez

I agree about the comments affecting the reaction but think FOR ONCE, people arent being hindsight merchants. If you were in the internet trenches you will find that book readers HATED seasons 5-8. And so they were super nitpicky and hated the venture out to find the walkers. (I thought it was hype), but it was for sure not as beloved as you think it was. It was controversial in real time too.

jblakk

Tyrion literally set a whole army on fire during the battle of blackwater bay, but now hes a pacifist all of the sudden? She lost all of her Westeros allies in large part due to Tarly and his betrayal to the Tyrells who have literally been erased as a house. I understand the nuance of her burning people but that nuance is falls flat when it isn't represented within the characters. Tarly fought for the mad king who you say traumatized the Westerosi people, and now hes fighting for Cersei who blew up a sept! There is no consistency in any of these characters actions. Also if Jon was actively fighting against dany in battle then she would do the same to his army, so that point makes no sense. They refused to bend the knee, they refused to go the wall, so now what? These are soldiers not innocent people, and its so clear the values of the characters flip flop based on what the writer want you to feel, which is that dany is unhinged. It's just not consistent. I understand dany's arc is breaking the wheel but that whole system is about the powerful preying on the weak, not about executing soldiers in WAR. Suddenly everyone is against killing in war when it comes to dany. Like is she supposed to lock up entire armies?

bateman bookworm

I do think the constant comments about how bad season 7/8 are did put a burden on Carter a little bit. I feel like he would like this season more if he didnt have the hindsight merchants always spewing bad thoughts. Be honest yall when this season first came out it was all hype the group going north was so cool and the final war coming up had everyone predicting so much.

Jed

the gek who was promised

r stark

I don’t think it’s that weird, as we have seen the faces are actual faces, and they probably needs to be treated a certain way to hold up over time (as I assume they did in Braavos). I don’t imagine her wanting to kill one of her own just to get a “fresh face” to sneak around in Winterfell. She might even be overconfident in her skill to not be found out. And if she was wearing another face while being found out that would just have bigger consequences as a nobody would be treated worse then her.

Linn

Outro dialogue more intense and interesting than any s7-8 conversation fr

ssj4rit

lol 🙈

A_Daddy Daichi

Everything Carter said was dead on, there is no weight, everyone is just a plot device now, the immersion is gone. It’s fan service moments happening to rush to the end. It can be fun to watch but if you’re truly invested in the story and characters it’s hard to accept what happened to the show.

Euphemia Isobel

Which is the worst call back line in your opinion? For me it’s “stick em with the pointy end” 🤮

Sean Carroll

Anthony please just quit talking. You are way out of your league. World hunger is an epidemic where people in third world countries struggle to find food to eat and are dying because they can’t sustain themselves. I’m not talking about literal having a rumbling tummy from being hungry

Sean Carroll

Gonna put on my nerd glasses here. "Umm actually"..but no seriously I get what Carter means about the Tyrion Jaime scene but I believe hes a bit off base on why the scene failed. Its not about the character goals, or build up or plot conveniences. Peter Dinklage acted his ass off, and Jaime was emotional too. The plot reasons for being there was fine enough. The true reason the scene felt flat was because of the direction. Their blocking was stagnant. The music was non existent when usually it swells during moments with them (go back to season 4 for examples on that). Their physical language with each other was non existent too. Jaime needed to threat tyrion more, Tyrion needed to flinch and perservere and give his speech about Tywin. Then in desperation he should have given the info to Jaime about the ceasefire. It should have been a more active give and take opposed to two people talking. Thats NOT an acting issue, a plot issue, or a writing issue. Its a blocking issue and a directing issue. ALOT of people blame the plot for season 7 and 8. Buts its far more nuanced than that. Dan and Dave rely on callbacks and quotes to iconic scenes of the past with their diaologue this season. They give more exposition and less new unique discussions and ideas than they did in the past. During slower scenes the blocking and camera dynamics do not tell a story like they used to. They arent dressing scenes anymore and it makes flaws of the narrative (that always existed) become more prominent. Characters have ALWAYS "teleported". The nights watch kid from the very start "teleported". You can make scenes work even at a faster pace. House of The Dragon does this. Atleast thats what I think. Carter is uber valid for his feelings. Im just trying to showcase a more articulate pinpoint issue for the flaws on the show. Its for anyone that feels off, not just Carter.

jblakk

Oh, he leaves more than that and I do as well lmao. I don't think the perfectly valid criticism of later seasons in comments are what made Carter feel this way. Even if that's the case, people are being so weird as if they can't handle criticism of their show, like don't watch it then?

TheSauceGuy

Like Brig thought Tywin was the mastermind behind Robert's Rebellion💀 i need them to know😭

Amna 🍉

Like I remember they wanted Sansa to become a warrior type character and like....that hasn't been her story at all

Amna 🍉

but the rest is true ofc

TheSauceGuy

Seriously I would always just see the A and be like I wonder what A stands for 😭😭😭

Lydia

Because that face power was forgotten about

Sean Carroll

Tyrion in his head: “that’s kinda weird dude”

Sean Carroll

THIS!! like is never that deep

Amna 🍉

I wish GRRM would finally talk about the last 2 seasons in some detail because his opinions of it would be fascinating. Perhaps he could join the chat or better yet guest host on the channel. I know nothing, Jon Snow.

Raymond Graber

I wish modern media in general would stop this idea that stoic, cold, rejecting femininity = strong female character. All these attempts and they still haven’t come close to making anyone as badass as Bayonetta or the Powerpuff girls lol

MacJordanT

Really appreciate the transparency and you guys showing the full discussion at the end. I feel like I‘m repeating another comment I read before but what makes me want to watch you guys the most is the authenticity of your reactions. So just keep reacting to the shows as feels right to you✨

Daniel

It was over when Carter mentioned that Tyrion and Bronn didn’t even say a word to each other. It doesn’t get more rushed than that lol

MacJordanT

People have to chill. Like it really isn’t life changing if the geks enjoy or hate anything. I hate when people say “it’s just a show” but it literally is just a show and these are just reactors. Nothing will change in my life or my enjoyment of the show. Idk why people are being so extremely emotional and beefing/complaining in the comments and trying to change peoples view of certain aspects.

vally

@Lollie Great explanation

vally

it's because you were annoying bro 😭 I also dislike those seasons but there's no need to leave 10 comment on every post

Kite

You think jon is boring when Dany is literally out there? 🤭🤭🤭

Leo

Carters main character which is why people care more if he’s not enjoying

Kneegrow

Hiroyuki and Anna winning the lead drama categories and gettin their flowers 🥹 so cute I love

JAY

Carter cooking once again

Kneegrow

That’s what I’m saying. I could be watching my fav show and u would have no idea😂😂

Shadow

I legit can’t believe these comments are about a tv show sometimes…like it will be okay lmao

Lydia

The end result is definitely the same (people be dead), but I think there is some room for nuance here. At the Watch, you take an oath, declaring your life for a cause. If you dessert the Watch, betray the Watch, etc., your life is forfeit. That's the deal you made when you signed up. With Dany, as Randall says, she is not his queen. He's not declared to her. She's giving him the choice to declare for her or die. And he's chosen death. OK; however, if your rule is based on the concept of "breaking the wheel," as Dany's is, and you come in, win a battle, and then threaten those you've conquered with death if they don't bend the knee - how are you different? Or better? Jon hasn't bent the knee and Dany hasn't burnt him. She's been given the time to win him to her side through actions. I realize that he's not actively fighting her, but she did say that the North is essentially in "open rebellion," so he's not totally different from the Tarleys. To get back to the main point, fire vs. sword. Again, I agree, the end result is the same, but I would say, to the people of Westeros, there is a lot of history tied up with fire, most recently a mad king who burned people alive for any reason he could think of; so, whether the reason is justified or not, there is going to be some trauma wrapped up in using fire as an execution method. I don't think Dany is wrong to use fire, but I also don't think it should be expected that the people will just accept it.

Lolilie

i second this 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

Zahra A

Thank you boys for posting the raw outro. I understood each of your points of view. Carter and every other gek is valid in their feelings. Watching a show with others is never going to be the same as watching alone. Every single person has experienced showing another person something they like/love and it’s not always received well. Everyone is different and that’s life. It was nice to see that you all respect and care about each other a lot. I watched this show alone up until season 8 and really liked it. I watched each episode of season 8 when it aired and the world was upset, but then it was over and life went on lol I for one hope the show/the comments/got community doesn’t get even more out of hand for the geks. Hope we speed run this show so the GOT era can be over and done with 🙏🏽🙏🏽

Lydia

Awh thank you Alexis!! I figured it’s about time I put my real name on here lol

A_Daddy Daichi

that’s not what i implied at all😭😭 i was talking about my own personal experience with the show. i don’t think anyone saying negative things about the last two seasons are affecting the guys opinions on the show in any way because i know they’re their own people and are able to form opinions on their own. i just personally didn’t hear anyone saying negative things abt it when i was watching so i didn’t even know that the last two seasons were universally hated.

leah

When the Red Wedding (which sparked the birth of reaction channels), happened solely on Robb's need to cross one simple bridge, then the teleportation does cheapen the established world building a little bit.

bob

Now that we are all expressing our feelings. Could we also allow everyone to say their criticisms AND positive thoughts. No one is “braindead” for enjoying these episodes as I’ve read plenty of times here. Hell there’s some scenes in s8 I actually like. But seriously it does go too far when you call people stupid things and make someone feel dumb for liking it. There’s still plenty of these unnecessary comments even after the guys have said to calm down more than once ….. and let’s remember it’s just a show. Maybe we can all laugh together in the end, I for one think it’s more fun than frustrating after all these years since it aired 🥰 and btw you guys are great reactors i really appreciate watching something this authentic 🙌🏼

Jessica

I mean you implied it could only happen if some "hater" was in someone's ear, if you didn't mind it as much, you didn't, your feelings are valid 😊

Lady Stoneheart (Uncat)

It's almost as if it's a comedy show LMAO this is probably the comment of the day for me

Mysterious Figure

I'm the same as you. I've thought about starting a reaction channel (mainly for ASOIAF content) but I usually don't outwardly react to things, so it would be boring af lol.

Daenerys Targaryen

@entendencia did you know drugs or hookers existed too? Since your comment sounds like you only want to be pleased there are more straightforward ways of doing so.

Mysterious Figure

Unrelated: Shogun won 18 Emmys ya'll😳

Amna 🍉

ooh your name is so pretty

alexis ♡︎

The Tarlys(d&d) were trippinggg. They had no reason not to bend. Especially lil d. Seeing westeros finest creation must have shorted some circuits

Shadow

Thank you my King lol. But yeah, who would want to side with Cersei? The rightful rulers of Westeros are back, wouldn't you want to bend the knee? And the Tarlys were faithful to the Targaryens til the end. It doesn't jive that they wouldn't immediately take the out and bend the knee.

Daenerys Targaryen

I agree with Carter 100%

MaraReaper

Hhm, I just feel like the exact opposite is happening and they've even said it themselves, on wether or not the comments affect their enjoyment of the show. That the expectations they were given were so low that they actually found themselves enjoying it. So I don't get how the show defenders cant just be happy with that. I can see how it would be doubly frustrating for someone to feel singled out on how what they're expressing isn't just the plain truth of the matter. Nothing more, nothing less. GoT is literally infamous for it's drop off in writing quality, and Carter comments the most on the writing quality no matter what show it is. So I don't get how anyone can be surprised at these turn of events.

bob

i never said it’s not understandable to not like s7 & s8 when first watching. i get why people wouldn’t, i just didn’t really mind them as much as everyone else seems to.

leah

Patiently waiting for Dark‼️‼️‼️

Katydid22

Exactly this, they were asked to Bend the knee, they said no they offered to go the wall they said no. What’s the next step for Dany? Jon executed Slynt for disobeying an order. Ned executed deserters. These were lords in an enemy army refusing the mercy of the wall. People just don’t like the method of execution.

Super Novice

Yeah that's why I put it in quotation marks lol. Just a ridiculous line

Alexa

Dany wouldn’t even need a dragon to threaten me with. I’d already be on my knees begging to be at her side at first sight

Shadow

But fr let us place blame in the right direction at David fing Benioff and Dan fing Weiss. I love all of Carter's reactions verbal and nonverbal, please don't take that away from me. Authenticity is my jam, so if everyone is authentic I'll be delighted. I'm loving Brig and Cannon hyping and loving it, I'm loving Carter validating my own journey of cringing and disappointment. I'm loving McKay cheesing in the background, jus vibing off everything neg or pos. And I'm loving Jack being level-headed, chilling in the midst of it all. This contrast is just as compelling and fun as the show imo! O CARTER MY CAPTAIN (and the rest of yall!) never make yourself smaller for anything, it's never worth it in the long run. 🫶🏾 Btw add Dead Poets Society to your must watch films list, if y'all haven't seen it!

Lady Stoneheart (Uncat)

Also "being entertained" vs "writing being bad". Why are we conflating this still? Why can't the writing be bad and it be entertaining, but some people who like writing more in a show are more disappointed than others who don't like writing as much and prefer entertainment? Fr why can't these things (and differences between people) just exist simultaneously?

Lady Stoneheart (Uncat)

Well let me just say again I had the same watch experience as you, except did in fact dislike s7 sooooooo once again I'm confused why the existence of people disliking s7 from the jump is so incredibly baffling. I disliked it the first time around, I did ✨not at all want to admit it✨, I literally paced around by myself thinking ✨I✨ was missing something and keeping my mouth shut until s8, but I did in fact dislike it on the first round. Is my existence understandable and valid or not? Lol

Lady Stoneheart (Uncat)

Also saying she has no ties to this land… did they forget that they’re all subjects of the iron throne… the one her ancestor forged and the one who essentially joined the Seven (really 6) kingdoms as one? Its shoddy writing

Nomaan

"I killed my father" - Tyrion "You killed my son" - Davos ..Silence.. "There's a path to the left" - Davos

Jed

Arya, the worst assassin in the world, was easily discovered by Little finger.

kami

I literally cant take it seriously 😭 it’s not like she’s getting any joy from killing them or revelling in it😭

Nomaan

damn the post discussion felt so intimate and real I kinda felt awkward for listening 😅

Isabell

Now patiently waiting for One-piece, Shippuden and Dark, gimme the good stuff

Nanashi

He has a castle waiting for him

Nanashi

Leo it’s almost like I said repeatedly ‘I’ ‘I’ 🥰.

Billie

Never thought I'd see this "beef" lol, I'm here for it but hope it doesn't affect the geks in any way

Nanashi

Yeah people don’t understand that entertainment is subjective and how you interpret it is unique sometimes which is perfectly fine

Q So Raww

I'm glad that when I binged the show before season 8 came out I wasn't the critic type, I didn't think about it too much so if you asked me then I'd say I enjoyed the whole of the 7 seasons, but when 8 came out, episode by episode, I remember feeling numb, the polar opposite of what I felt watching season 1 so something had to be wrong. Then the last episode aired, credits rolled and I felt... nothing. My favorite show of all time just ended and I felt nothing? How? Sole time later when I started to think about why something is good or why it's bad that I realized how they turned the show into a parody of itself, the end being a complete insult to our faces. I'll never hold true hatred for the show though, I'll still say it's my favorite show of all time because I had so much fun with it and it did use to be a 10/10. On this rewatch though I almost teared up on some of the dialogue in season 1 remembering how damn perfect everything was, a simple dialogue between Cercei and Robert reminiscing on better days while simultaneously giving us beautiful lore is what the peak of this show is about, THAT is good written fantasy, unfortunately when it got to the real fantasy aspects of the show it turned to shit. I'm honestly waiting for the GRRM to finish the books, lol I know, so I can read everything and experience this story the best way possible.

Nanashi

@sean - you are giving an analogy of someone who doesnt know hunger means? Im telling you that that person doesnt exist!!! Be smart and give a better one

Anthony Rodriguez

You Gek boys are trying to force Carter to express his experience of either enjoyment or distaste the way YOU want to force it upon him. How is that going to be an authentic reaction? Can we all learn to accept we appreciate DIFFERENT things about the SAME THING we are watching? Or that we expect different things from entertainment? Just let Carter be himself for fricks sake guys. Say what you liked and let him say what he didnt. Why do you feel so threatened by him not enjoying stuff you like? How does him disliking something you like diminish your own love for it? Or the thing itself? Unless him pointing out the faults ends up making you look at it in a way that makes it look bad even to you? In that sense I can understand your frustration, but then just man up and grow up. If someone criticizing your favorite piece of fiction ends up making it not standing up to scrutiny, then that piece of fiction isnt worth shit anyway. So no amount of criticism can actually shit on something ACTUALLY worth its salt. And no amount of criticism CAN actually diminish your enjoyment of your favorite fiction if it is indeed worth your love. I have the same problem with so many people in this community. Whenever I criticize something a bunch of people adore, I get attacked relentlessly. Most people just let themselves ignore the faults of the object of their adoration or they probably didnt even notice them, so when someone points them out, then its the fault of the person, and not the source material. This is not on Carter, or anyone doing the same.

Mysterious Figure

Real def

Lady Stoneheart (Uncat)

Brb gotta get change for my 2c 😁

Lady Stoneheart (Uncat)

i agree with all things said about dialogue issues and character development starting to fall off especially in the last two seasons but i can’t lie, when i watched for the first time, i went into the whole show completely blind to spoilers but also to the fandom. i had no idea the last two seasons were so wildly hated. that being said, i really enjoyed season 7 specifically, without a lil bitch in my ear saying it’s terrible. yeah, the writing may be bad in comparison to the perfection of the earlier seasons (1-4) but it consistently kept me throughly entertained. season 8 on the other hand… i won’t get into that until you guys finish the show.

leah

@Bean Maybe it’s both?

Roy Koopa

Sean it does make sense, he means the negative comments from day one and not the ones on the present video

Nanashi

damn there was 90 comments when i watched this earlier this morning, now there is 340+ lol

Philbo

Yeah, I might complain about stuff but there's a reason this is the only Patreon I've ever subbed to lol

Nanashi

Look at the bright side Carter, now you can title the youtube videos Lovers and HATERS watch Game of Thrones🤣

Nanashi

He's not wrong, it's just the way he says it makes it seem like the was heavily affected by the comments. It's just what I feel tbh, might be wrong who knows

Nanashi

true

leah

He was so affected by the comments and it shows

Nanashi

The unfortunate things for them watching these last seasons is that they are a reaction channel and should voice their opinions, when opinions of good or bad differ like this usually one side is more affected, like if Carter is shitting on it the others will think "damn I'm enjoying something this bad?" Or the opposite which is a "nicer" outcome where Carter would be like "yeah I can see why it's enjoyable for you guys" and starts seeing the cup half full. It's difficult for 2 diverging opinions to be heard and none of them affect each other

Nanashi

🍿

Sean Carroll

I think I might have just regained my consciousness after reading that you enjoyed 7 and 8 more than 3 and 4.

Sean Carroll

You guys are more entertaining than any reality show I vote longer outros more often😂 I just know season 8 will be so much fun

Jessica

Bro what??? Have you never heard of the epidemic that is world hunger? The fact you confused my comment just lends less credence to your argument

Sean Carroll

That’s so messed up, considering they did so well with the other seasons. It must mean that they were definitely not what was making the show so great. I don’t understand how they could justify rushing this show when its success would mean more jobs for them. So basically, karma came for them, but at what cost? 😂

hannahbee99

Dude I remember when this part of the season was airing. The next episode leaked like 5 days early or something and I’ve never been more disappointed. It’s such a weird feeling to be SO EXCITED that a GOT episode leaked several days early and then the immediate disappointment after having watched it. It’s like Christmas came early but all I got was socks.

Thicc Thanos

It was for Ana

Sean Carroll

Oh lord I’m gonna come back from work tonight with a ton of comments to read 😅

A_Daddy Daichi

We're not seeing a single thing that episode

Nanashi

They cut down the last two seasons cause D&D wanted to move on from the show. HBO offered them as much money and time as they needed and George RR Martin insisted that they needed more episodes but D&D did it their way. Part of the reason they wanted to move on and finish it so fast was because they were set to do a Star Wars project. What’s funny is that because of how poorly received game of thrones season 8 was, they got fired from that same Star Wars job that played a big part in them rushing to the ending

Bean

TLK is soooooo good

Amna 🍉

Because I’m a weird guy and I have no life 😉

Sean Carroll

Bro Arya is just such a prick I can't

Nanashi

My bad! Okay I’ll admit that one’s definitely on me! The rest is probably totally real tho.

Thicc Thanos

The dialogue being shit and no scene holding any real emotion or being nicely written apart from scattered gems is something I unfortunately grew used to but this little sidemission of retrieving a dead man is dumbest shit of all time and I can't ever understand it or let it go

Nanashi

Yeah somehow I believe that was just to instil hype. The other actors could hardly hide their hatred of the last season.

Sean Carroll

Hahahahah no beef amna, i love the enthusiasm and dont care if u comment a thousand times:) also will not compare to sean in future hahaha, one love🤘🏽

Yerr

You can't fuck with the perception of time when in earlier season amy step taken needed to be a careful one

Nanashi

I don’t know why you flex being a hater bro shits kinda weird

Nivek

Was gonna comment this too^^

Bean

how is dany killing tarly any different then ned beheading the watch deserter in the first ep? these writers are trying to make it seem way worse just because it’s burning instead of a sword

bateman bookworm

I really really hope you guys take a look into watching The Last Kingdom 😫😭 Helena and One-Eyed Aemond are even main characters in that show, I think you guys would love it.

Bri-Ana Monique

I think there’s still a lot more stuff you guys will change your mind about. although its admittedly not fair for me to assume that just cause you weren’t outspoken about something in the outro that you didn’t have a problem with it

Bean

I for one heard what you all said, my comment was more in the sense that at this point it isn’t so world breaking to you yet to ruin your reactions. I’d be surprised if you didn’t genuinely hate stuff in season 8, that’s more what my comment was referring to. At this point you guys genuinely have no idea how truly awful it gets

Sean Carroll

Real

Isabell

And then they went on to say that season 8 will have a perfect balance of that and that it’s great lol idk if they were serious tho 😂

Jessica

I think going into a watch being told that the writing sucks and the season lacks along with negative comments via patreon is already gonna be in the back of your mind while watching it and make it difficult to enjoy. Tbh season 7 and 8 weren't my fav seasons but I enjoyed them more than the haters. There is plenty to like in these 2 seasons.

Cake eater

Sorryyyyy🫣 but also please don't compare me to sean😭 17 comments is a bit excessive but I like sharing my opinion with other people🤷🏽‍♀️ Sean on the other hand👀👀

Amna 🍉

That actually makes sense bc he's very much a side character in the books

Amna 🍉

"little does she know littlefinger put it up his little buns.. thats his secret chamber... a place that no one will ever find it" 😭

emma.bean

Yeah but Arya tells Ned that she doesn't "actually" hate Sansa. They're also suppose to be only 2 years apart. Their septa always compared them so it makes sense why they never got along but they never actually hated each other. In the books, Arya even says she'll beg Sansa for forgiveness as a "Lady" if she can just see her one more time. And Sansa would do anything just to have another snow fight. They constantly think about each other. There's no legit reasoning for their beef atm. It was forced and did not make any sense. Sansa's relationship with Jon and Arya is very different.

Amna 🍉

💯🫂 very wholesome indeed

Camilla

Cannon you should know by now that some people don’t watch or pay attention to the whole video before commenting! Some people just want to use your Patreon as a personal sounding board but it’s their money and their prerogative I guess 😂

hannahbee99

ah yes the targaryen loyalists refusing to bend the knee to a……targaryen with 3 dragons no less. Also this idea by tyrion is 100% his absolute WORST…the falloff is insane and it makes perfect sense why dany is tired of listening to him

bateman bookworm

1. I understand he says that. This has no impact on my opinion. 2. I presume this is for someone else.

Roy Koopa

Really great reaction and discussion guys. I love how passionate you are getting with this show. I remember watching this season when it came out and at the time I loved it. I still do really enjoy this season ,there are a lot of great moments. My gripe (and my gripe with Season 7 and 8 in general) is that if we had just had 3 more episodes in the season, I don’t think people would have so much of an issue with this season. We just needed more time! In my opinion, the greatest mistake and disservice the show runners did to this show was making Season 7+8 shorter, almost every issue (other than some obvious poor writing choices and negligence to lore/continuity) people have with this show boils down to them cutting the seasons down and not giving these storylines enough time. Most of the complaints are to do with the “teleporting”, the rushed introductions and meetups, the extreme fast-passed nature of these two seasons, and not understanding why characters are making choices. Majority of these issues wouldn’t exist if they had just given us a full 10 episode Season 7+8 (and IMO they could’ve and should’ve done a 9th season). After building up these characters and storylines for 6 seasons, it’s too much to resolve in just 13 episodes. Does anyone actually know why they cut the last two seasons? All this to say, this season is more enjoyable when you just accept that because they cut it down, things are going to feel disjointed at times. What do they say? Acceptance is the last stage of grief? 😂 But for Carter, thank you for being honest about your issues, it is really difficult to look past some of these frustrating plot lines when we don’t have more time to flesh them out and give them the time they deserve. I can imagine it’s even worse when you spend all day looking at people talk about how much they hate these seasons (not a dig, it’s all valid criticism but it would be very hard to not get jaded by it). try to keep your head up, it’s really not all bad, the set design/costuming/production value is amazing these two seasons and there are LOTS of moments to look forward to, just try to keep those in mind when you’re being bombarded with the bad ones! 😂

hannahbee99

Jeez guys. You just had to upload this during business hours. How am I possibly gonna focus on work now.

Kamina 1

If anything, the comments are making them enjoy it more because they were prepared lol, not even being hyperbolic. If no one told them how shitty this was, they would feel more of a need to say it instead of just throwing another stone in the pile. If you liked or loved these seasons that’s fine, but stop trying to find reasons why their reaction doesn’t mesh with yours exactly

Al Boxley

Yeah, I def agree with Carter about that reunion. It's my first time watching this too, and I've been waiting for soooooo long for two of my fav characters to meet and then we just get this... like they could've brought any two random soldiers to do this scene, and it'd convey the same emotion that we saw... like bruh

𝓓𝓪𝓷𝓪

Damn I really didnt wanna be another comment talking about other comments about Carter’s reaction but y’all are just so…. yeah lol. The people that genuinely think Carter’s feelings about this show in anyway are because of random commenters on here, you guys are deluding yourself. And honestly, it’s super disrespectful to say after he has clarified which elements are unrelated to the comments. These disparaging comments simply gave him a heads up, nothing more. Certainly isn’t holding weight to him rn. It’s actually so weird every single one of you doubling down on it too, still commenting about how you think it affected him even tho he said it didn’t. There another pointless comment added to the pool of Carter comments. Guys these last two season are actually trash compared to the early ones, what’s the point of watching people react if they eat it up like cereal?

Al Boxley

Gendrys actor literally mocked season 7 in an interview with greyworms actor saying that it’s all about story now and that character development went out the window

Sean Carroll

We still see the glaring issues with the show. Did yall hear us say that?

Cannon Andrus

Now Sam doesn’t have to worry about his dad coming after him to get his sword back

Sean Carroll

Everything that happens now is purely for story and to get from point a to point b

Sean Carroll

It’s jarring and ruins the pace of the show, also it shows a general laziness by the writers to not provide us with interesting dialogue like they used to. The general feeling of being rushed is what we notice and that stems from dumb and dumber not wanting to do game of thrones anymore

Sean Carroll

Awwww, Carter. I haven’t even started the reaction yet, but trust me, we ALL get it. After all these years, it’s still astonishing to me how a show this iconic with some of the best dialogue ever could devolve THIS badly. I still count GoT among the greatest shows of all time, but that’s due to seasons 1-4 and parts of 6. I’m sure you know this already, but I am sorry to confirm that it just continues to go downhill from here. Le sigh.

Marcusinmilw

Carter has a long way to go before he reaches my level of hatred haha

Sean Carroll

Definitely didnt mean it to say it was a problem, comment a hundred times for all i care haha, i just thought it was funny. No shade tho.

Yerr

What did I say?

Brig Andrus

I think a lot of the character development got fumbled in the last season and that’s genuinely what pissed me off about the ending and I can’t get over it. While the show was beautifully shot it’s hard to enjoy because of the pivotal point that the characters aren’t really going anywhere 😅 carter having a difference of opinion is welcoming and refreshing . I like when people react differently to different things

Tacara Wright

Yeah Jon snow is the best character to follow in terms of the main characters I agree. But Theon is the best character in the show for me

Sean Carroll

Carter is channeling Sean's energy. His disappointment is greater than that of book readers.

BipolarKitten

Never really understood why people always talk about teleportation and all like what else are they supposed to do or show most of these characters are already together while in earlier seasons everyone was seperate.

Samuel

k

Sean Carroll

I can see how people felt that way. Personally I understood it, my gripe (and my gripe with Season 7 in general) is that if we had just had 3 more episodes in the season, this plot line and many others would’ve had more time to breathe and play out properly. Sansa and Arya are very different people and were never close, in fact they really did not like each other growing up. I think one of the last things Arya said to or about Sansa before leaving Kings Landing was that she hated her. Plus they’ve both been through years of horrible ordeals and have become very distrustful, Sansa didn’t even trust Jon enough to tell him about the Knights of the Vale. So it never felt strange to me that there would be tension/animosity between them, I just wish we had had more scenes to establish why they felt they way they do. Especially considering where the plot between them ends. We just needed moore time! In my opinion, the greatest mistake and disservice the show runners did to this show was making Season 7+8 shorter, almost every issue (other than some obvious plot choices) people have with this show boils down to them cutting the seasons down and not giving these storyline’s enough time.

hannahbee99

Facts

Leo

Good please express your opinion no matter what, don’t let the negativity stop you from making your own choices.

Sean Carroll

But also the fact that she was born here. Dumb and dumber “kinda forgot” about that though

Sean Carroll

Sorry bruv I ain’t goin nowhere

Sean Carroll

I mean, yes kinda but it was also more in response to the toxic arguments that I and many others were apart of. If we are commenting a lot on these videos but it’s pertaining to the show then I personally don’t see the problem. If all 50 of my comments are about the show or discussing the show with others than that shouldn’t be a problem

Sean Carroll

(I deleted this comment by accident initially 😭) Carter you’re totally 100% valid for expressing your feelings about this season. people will have a difference in perspective regarding it, and i feel i’m in the same boat as you. it’s not that this season is absolute trash (i suspect a certain someone will disagree with this comment, rather vehemently, i’d wager) but it’s certainly not as good as earlier seasons. the dialogue feels bland and only really used for exposition, as others have pointed out. the teleporting between places definitely plays a huge factor in making this season feel super rushed. the lazy writing. all of it. i’m right there with you. i don’t feel this season is straight-up horrible, but definitely disappointed that it’s fallen so low from such a high point. you shouldn’t have to feel “negative” for voicing your opinion on things about the show you enjoy, and other elements that you aren’t satisfied with. you can’t stop yourself from feeling certain ways when digesting media like Game of Thrones, especially episodes like this, that are so controversial that it divides people much more than previous episodes so far. EVERYONE LAY OFF MY BOY CARTER

Seth Aasland

Brig and cannon might be positive now but I along with many others know they will join the dark side with Carter soon. It is inevitable

Sean Carroll

Carter dislikes something Commenters: “it’s must be because of this reason”

Sean Carroll

I’m also excited. Their love for arcane during the aot days made me watch it and I loved it. Can’t wait for season 2

Sean Carroll

Billie, speak for yourself

Leo

Dumbs and dumber “kinda forgot”

Sean Carroll

fr. it felt so out of left field for me when i first watched it. like… shouldn’t yall be a FAMILY again?! sure its not the same as before, but surely not THIS

Seth Aasland

Just a guy with a negative opinion, yes I may add fluff to my comments but that’s all

Sean Carroll

Comparison is weak? Then why not complain why there was no build up of them going to wjnterfell?

Anthony Rodriguez

Oh so we just forget about the the teleportation of Varys from Westeros to Essos? What about Catelyn from the Vale to Moat Callin? How about Stannis from Dragonstone to Stormland?

Anthony Rodriguez

Bran is the worst written character due to these powers because he is insanely under-utilised. Dumb and dumber have no idea what to do with him so he basically just wargs all day long and says cryptic shit to everybody

Sean Carroll

Much better and more refreshing then for example rttv who are just dudes who jump up and down at everything in this show and also Burlington bar

Sean Carroll

The comparison is weak Anthony because at that point the only storyline was kings landing and winterfell and Dany. At that stage speedrunning didn’t affect other plot lines. In this season long trips are happening in the blink of an eye but they should be taking weeks/months. The writers are basically saying that while Jon and crew sail to the wall which would take a month or more that absolutely nothing else in any storyline is happening during this time. Dany and Cersei have frozen in time for Jon’s mission to occur

Sean Carroll

yeah the forced beef between arya & sansa was not it. i’m still unable to watch those scenes without cringing.

milfnyra mai

haven’t even watched the reaction yet but i watched the discussion last night and there’s two things i want to say 1. carter, please don’t stop voicing your honest opinion. when i was growing up i was taught to not say anything if you don’t have anything nice to say so i, personally, saw your silence (last ep at least) as a genuine compromise btwn honesty and trying not to yuck the other boys’ yums. i get that it might not seem like you enjoy what you’re watching, but i can understand that you do, you’re just too overwhelmed w disappointment to try to be all happy and invested when you know you could have gotten so much better. when i was watching this season (particularly the latter half), i’d go in my brother’s room and have 20 minute long yap sessions about all the shit that wasn’t adding up and then i’d conclude w “i mean ima watch the next ep but fuck” so i think i completely understand how you’re feeling 😭 2. i watched the discussion last night so i’m not sure what you guys cut out, but i honestly loved seeing you guys argue and kinda break character cus it lets me know that y’all are real ppl and close friends/ brothers nonetheless. i think even when it got heated y’all kept it respectful and real w one another and everyone’s main concern was authenticity which, as someone paying for your reactions, was really kinda nice to hear. anyways love y’all, i honestly can’t wait for the next ep 😂

alexis ♡︎

this! the changes to her character makes me sad :(

milfnyra mai

@sean - and next time make a proper analogy. Everyone knows how to be hungry thats why you know when its time to eat. Einstein…

Anthony Rodriguez

Jon snow surviving about 100-200 arrows maybe more is the most overwhelming plot armour up to this point.

Sean Carroll

1. Cannon himself said he’s enjoying it more because of the low expectations set so that argument doesn’t make sense. Two people can have two totally different reactions to something. 2. Should, would and could are all great ideas in theory but sadly they don’t exist, you can say that people should do something but you can’t control every persons actions. Unfortunately you’ll just have to accept that people are going to say their piece at their own discretion.

Sean Carroll

@sean - you taking it outnof context. Fine. There were reviews online from fans, youtube, memes, from media. Show me a post or article, archive, video, or review bashing season 7. Im waiting…

Anthony Rodriguez

not littlefinger's secret chamber 💀 brig crazy for that.

emma.bean

I have never experienced world hunger so therefore it doesn’t exist. That’s basically what you are saying Anthony

Sean Carroll

I genuinely believe a lot of people just want the same reaction from him that they had, and if it goes against that then they are mad. Then again nerdy nightly reacting to attack on titan was just a genuine piece of shit so that’s an extreme example compared to Carter not enjoying season 7

Sean Carroll

Got was never his favourite show, he loves aot and arcane the most from what he’s said.

Sean Carroll

One of the first things Jaquen and the Waif taught Arya was the Game of Lies. Arya absolutely knows that Sansa want to rule at Winterfell, Sansa can't hide that truth from Arya. That doesn't automatically mean she's plotting against Jon (she's just not supporting him with any conviction).

NoneOfYourBeeswax

I DID NOT SAY I LIKE SEASON 7 MORE THAN SEASONS 1-4 GET THAT BLASPHEMY OUT OF HERE

Brig Andrus

More than 3 and 4 😟 oh brother

Billie

I liked season 7,8 more than 3 and 4. When I think of the six episodes in season 8 I actually can say each episode I like. The ending wasnt what I wanted but I stll liked the episode as a whole. And now after thinking about it for these years the ending makes sense and I actually dont mind it. People that complain and real nit pickers. Im simple and easily pleased and have not read the books

Not today

why I’m forever a Sansa girl and not Arya girl. Sansa was able to learn from her femininity and learn how to use it but also become stronger (ofc her character suffers from bad writing later on), but it feels like…Arya just became a girl boss marvel-esque radical feminist who hates everything girly just because you can’t be a woman and feminine and still be a boss…such archaic thinking. They ruined my girl even more than Sansa imo 😞 but more on that later

Billie

The show started when cersei and jamie in kings landing. After 10 mins they arrived in winterfell which shouldnbe a 1 month travel. Where was the complaint about teleportation back then. Now all of a sudden davos and tyrion sail from dragon stone to king landing which is not far people are complaing how did they get there so fast?

Anthony Rodriguez

Daddy Gendry 😍

Bri-Ana Monique

Carter we love the real raw reactions always speak how you feel that’s the reason we watch you guys we luv the real good or bad we just love the different perspectives and Remember I said certain characters development and changes to there personality’s didn’t make any sense you guys are seeing it first hand and more in future episodes to come Carter thinks he’s disappointed now wait until season 8

Renaldo Allard

that’s an interesting take, because I’ve always viewed his character as…very plain and boring? you can see that he’s very much main character but I’ve always had a tendency to want to skip his scenes. Very interesting

Billie

The show started with them arriving at Winterfell, not travelling there. And it took three episodes to get back. I don't know what you're on but you are not accurately conveying what actually happened.

NoneOfYourBeeswax

also im not sure how far ahead you are watching... but there is an episode in season 8 that is pretty damn dark for the majority of it. you should consider watching at night and adjusting your lighting as low as you possibly can without hindering us being able to see you. even if the thumbnail is darker for that particular episode, people will understand lol. mckay could probably work out which episode.

JAY

Honestly John snow carried the series because at least most of his scenes are good and emotional whenever he gives a speech even his story line as it continues to unfold is some what good to the point we’re even with terrible writing you want to keep watching because of him

Renaldo Allard

Yeah it's crazy; Danaerys could have flown to King's Landing with three dragons and burned out Maegor's holdfast in a hot (literally!) minute, with minimal harm to the commonfolk. The war would have been over in a day. It's crazy that the man who burned thousand of soldiers alive at the Battle of the Blackwater now expects Danaery to win a war without killing anyone. D&D have certainly killed Tyrion though...

NoneOfYourBeeswax

Negatives Jaime: so you’re telling me that Jaime and bronn were able to survive drowning in the lake with their armour on pulling them down by simply swimming up even though Jaime was knocked out falling into the lake last episode. Actually bronn isn’t wearing armour but there is no way he could pull Jaime up with the weight of his armour. Screw this shows extreme plot armour now. How were they also able to get away when Dany has thousands of Dothraki here to patrol the area after the battle. Tyrion saw Jaime last episode, why didn’t he confirm that Jaime was still alive, he didn’t give it a single thought at all. Dany: randyl Tarly was a Targaryen loyalist prior to Robert’s rebellion and swore an oath to Robert after the rebellion. When he now has a chance to return his loyalty to the original family he was loyal to he decides not to??? He then says that at least Cersei was born in Westeros… well did randyl or dumb and dumber forget that Dany was also born in Westeros? She wasn’t raised in Westeros but was born there. Then when they discuss sending him to the wall randyl says that they cannot send him to the wall because Dany is not his queen… that is completely irrelevant. So many men over the years have been taken in by the night’s watch simply for their crimes or because the wall needed more men. Dany has all the power in the world to send randyl to the wall if she chose to. Why the hell does Dickson stand up to be burned alive as well, I understand the honour in it, but it’s so stupid that he does this instead of furthering the Tarly name for years to come, there is absolutely no benefit to anyone for Dickon to stand and burn alongside his father. Jaime: how did Jaime get back to kings landing so quickly? 5 minutes ago he was near highgarden, oh did he bring his teleporter with him? He somehow managed to get back to kings landing without running into a single member of danys army? Yeah ok bro so believable. Dany: she asks Jon about taking a knife through the heart for his people and just as Jon is about to explain Jorah teleports in from old town. This conversation regarding Jon’s death is never brought up again between them. Also how did Jorah get to dragonstone so fast? Also (and maybe I’m forgetting) how did Jorah know Dany was even in dragonstone? Did Sam tell him offscreen (again I may be forgetting). Also regarding teleporting, Dany flew back to dragonstone on drogon and yet the Dothraki made it back to dragonstone before her??? How did they get back to dragonstone? As I’ve already mentioned Dany lost her fleet when the Greyjoys and dornish died and when greyworm and the unsullied went to casterly rock. The Dothraki should not under any circumstances have made it back to dragonstone before Dany unless she decided to fly around the world offscreen before returning to dragonstone. Tyrion: how did Tyrion return to dragonstone so quickly since I’ve already explained Dany no longer has any ships. Why are Tyrion and Varys undermining danys choice to burn the tarlys even though it was their own choice? Remember in season 5 and throughout the whole show Varys has been on danys side as the ruler of the seven kingdoms but here he is saying the only way she won’t turn out like the mad king is the people advising her… I’m sorry but what happened to all your massive confidence in her? Where did this come from Varys? Jon: Jon says he thought Arya and bran were dead and while Arya certainly was an unknown Jon actually was told about bran being alive at the start of season 4 when Sam told Jon he met bran and crew. I guess dumb and dumber “kinda forgot” about their own plot details they wrote in their show. That idiocy made me really mad first time I watched this episode. Dany says “as soon as I march away, Cersei marches in”… where would Cersei march into Dany? You’re in dragonstone, which nobody cares about, dragonstone was completely unoccupied from early season 4 to season 7. Deep breath….. TYRION SUGGESTING THAT THE CREW GO BEYOND THE WALL TO GET A WHITE WALKER OR WHITE AND BRING IT TO KINGS LANDING TO PROVE TO CERSEI ABOUT THE EXISTENCE OF WHITE WALKERS TO GET HER ON THEIR SIDE EVEN THOUGH SHE WOULD NEVER ACCEPT THIS IN A MILLION YEARS IS THE DUMBEST THING TYRION HAS EVER SAID. This completely brainless plan just blows my mind beyond belief. How did Tyrion fall off so hard from being so Goated to this complete stupid dumbass. Tyrion then says that the only person Cersei listens to is Jaime.. wrong, Cersei also listens to qybyrn (although Tyrion might not know that). Tyrion than decides to go to kings landing himself to talk to Jaime secretly in order to organise a truce for the time being. Of all people to go to kings landing Tyrion is the last person that should be going. Also why does Tyrion just assume that Jaime and bronn survived the battle in the last episode considering he saw them both and never confirmed their deaths. The way he speaks is like he just assumes Jaime and bronn are both alive. God this is painful writing. If they actually thought about this secret meeting why don’t they send brienne instead as Jaime trusts her and won’t kill her? Given how stupidly fast everything is happening in season 7 brienne would get from winterfell to kings landing two scenes later. Why is Jon volunteering for this stupid mission as he is the guy who is uniting everyone in the north together for this eventual war. Him dying would cause massive uproar. Winterfell: why is glover allowed to get away with treason when suggesting Sansa would be a better option to rule the north. Also do all the northmen just live in winterfell now? How is this possible? Next Arya randomly decides to antagonise Sansa for no reason. We who have finished season 7 knows how insanely painful and idiotic this stupid rivalry between them is and I will bash this writing further in the next two episodes. Tyrion: how did Tyrion and Davos teleport to kings landing so quickly especially since eurons iron fleet should have some ships stationed there to not allow safe passage for invaders… are we supposed to believe all of the iron fleet went to casterly rock to kill the unsullied. Also where the hell are the unsullied? They should be dead considering all their ships were destroyed and they have no way of getting back. Davos then says a joke regarding his son’s death for the third time this season “last time I was here you killed my son with wildfire” does Davos genuinely just not care for his son anymore? I hate how flippant he is about this. Tyrion then doesn’t use the entrance required to get under the red keep and instead climbs the stairs but in the very next scene is in the red keep 🤦‍♂️. Also how the hell did bronn know about this secret meeting? Tyrion never once in the last two minutes since he left dragonstone brings up the fact he would contact bronn to organise this. Also wouldn’t it be more likely that bronn would turn Tyrion in and reap the rewards rather than committing treason by going behind the queens back? Yes Carter you are right the reunion between Tyrion and Jaime is terrible and devoid of all emotion. Not to mention this is a reunion between Tyrion and bronn as well but the scene doesn’t even seem to play out like that at all. Jaime: he goes to talk to Cersei about his meeting with Tyrion but apparently Cersei knew about the meeting all along. Now this makes absolutely no sense, Tyrion is the person Cersei hates most in this world and she for some reason allowed this meeting to happen without arresting Tyrion or bronn. Not to mention Tyrion would have been a great hostage against Dany and Cersei could also execute bronn for treason which puts away the requirement to give bronn a large castle as he is currently owed. Dany: the romantic tension between Dany and Jon is continuing to be extremely forced and just annoying. They met two episodes ago and they are forcing a romance rather than writing it naturally. Arya: how is Arya able to pick locks without any prior experience doing so. Also I feel like a broken record, why is little finger still alive. If Sansa hates him as much as she says she does then she could tell the vale that he murdered lysa Arryn and they would execute him on the spot. Also he heard bran repeat chaos is a ladder to him and episode ago so why isn’t he terrified enough to leave. Being such a clever man this is just breaking his character for him to stay in winterfell and be this stupid. What have they done to one of the best characters in this show. Jon: how the hell did Jon’s crew make it from dragonstone to the wall in 7 minutes (yes I counted), Davos went from dragonstone to kings landing back to dragonstone and then to the wall all in one episode. Good lord this is painful. This should be a 1 month trip give or take. In this time wouldn’t the rest of the war have continued progressing or are we supposed to believe that everyone has reached a standstill? Where are the unsullied in all this time? Has Arya done anything about the scroll in this same time? What is going on with time anymore, seriously fuck what this show has become. Tormund gets angry when he finds out Jorah is a Mormont… why is he angry at this news? Tormund has now befriended the nights watch members who were also complicit in the murder of the wildlings not to mention tormund worked side by side with Lyanna Mormont and her men during the battle of the bastards. Him getting mad at Jorah makes no sense whatsoever considering his new found allying with people. This episode is truly trash and I am disgusted that from now on it gets even worse

Sean Carroll

we need some dark reactions ❤ and hoping for The Bear in the future!

kivu_king

im with carter, the season looks nice but it cant compare to the peaks of GOT, where before, you had elite dialogue, big attention to detail, a feeling that the story is building up to be something incredible, compared to now where every scene feels filler-y and unimportant, the teleportation is there to avoid even more dialogue scenes, because the writers understand that they cant write for shit without source. like imagine if early seasons arya and the hound had no screentime, we teleport, and we see LE EPIC Brienne vs Hound fight, and thats it. thats what the show feels like at times in seasons 5-8.

kivu_king

Sansa told Tyrion in season 3 that Arya used to sneak into her room and sew poop into the mattress. So, I’d guess she’s been picking locks since she was a little girl

Bellamy Blake

I gotta say, i really appreciated the outro discussion. even in disagreement its very apparent that you guys have a lot of love for each other and are truly respectful of each other's feelings. its very wholesome to see 🥹 really enjoyed the reaction 💕💕

JAY

random question but do u guys watch tv/film award shows like the emmys/oscars

nymeria

Great outro guys! Everyone made great points. At this point we just gotta buckle in, close our eyes, and finish this ride 😂. But I agree with Carter, what carries this season is the fan service, and I know if you were filming my face while I was watching this live for the first time, my reaction would have been a lot like Carter's...still enjoyable, but I couldn't ignore it being rushed and the characters changing so much.

Daenerys Targaryen

What's wrong with passion and emotional expressiveness?

Lady Stoneheart (Uncat)

@charissa - you are quoting someone? or is that the real definition of AIR quote?

Anthony Rodriguez

Actually no forget that, ima express my feelings once I finish the video 😂🩷

Bri-Ana Monique

It’s comments like this that have contributed to what Carter is dealing with right now. Just stop already.

Teri M

"I personally didn't experience it, therefore it doesn't exist"

Lady Stoneheart (Uncat)

yeah i’ve had to fast forward through certain scenes in rewatch bc i genuinely can’t handle the dialogue in certain scenes in this season. it feels so dead by this point. it doesn’t have the same flavor and purpose that it had in earlier seasons

Seth Aasland

My thoughts on this later. Stay tuned.

lololol

You guys probably are going to have to adjust the brightness and other settings on the screen your watching it on. This scene with Sam getting the books, Jon in the cave with Gendry and the jail are all examples of how dark many scenes are going to be the rest of the way. That way you aren’t saying I can’t see anything or what’s happening it’s too dark. There is one in episode 8 McKay knows that you probably will have to adjust all your lighting then. But for the rest of these episodes you may need to adjust slightly the setting on your screen. Use the scene with Jon in the cave or Sam getting the books as a template. You should be able to see the walls and the people clearly. HBO adjusted the lighting after the show started getting so many rewatches so you only need slight adjustments now to lighten it up some.

I❤️movies&tvshows

Arya can pick locks like Carter can pick nits! It just seems so weird that with all the failing aspects of the show, practically the only time Carter spoke out was when he criticised the fact that Arya can pick locks. I can only assume that's because we didn't see the Faceless Men teach her to do this... but it's not like not seeing Arya being taught how to fight - lockpicking is such an easy skill to learn it's not worth spending show time showing Arya learning it. Hell, I'm neither a locksmith nor a Faceless Man, but even I can pick locks! Anyway, I don't mean to jump on the Carter pile-on, it's just that that seemed such a weird thing to be upset about.

NoneOfYourBeeswax

Really great reactions! I enjoyed the after episode talk. I actually like that you guys did a longer after talk. I think sometimes they get cut too short. I understand the frustration when you like something, but then someone else doesn't. When I watch stuff with my dad sometimes we both enjoy it, sometimes we both hate it, and then there are times where we have different opinions. It's hard because it's easy when you're on the same wavelength, but you shouldn't let it stop you from feeling what you truly feel. When I first watch GoT when it aired I had a different option than I did when I rewatched it. Even now watching it again with you guys I find that I feel different about things and see scenes and dialogue in a different way. I don't feel bad that Randyl Tarly died. He was a horrible person and the things he said about Dany weren't really her fault. She and her brother were driven out of Westeros and hunted their whole lives. Not only that but he betrayed Olenna. I did feel bad for Dickon, but he did make his choice. I feel like Arya in general is disconnected from the world she used to know. Littlefinger is annoying. Sansa and everyone else sees him for who he is. They need to be rid of him. I did like seeing Jon pat Drogon. I'm not sure if it's because he senses the Targaryean in him or if it's the fact that while Jon is scared he doesn't cower away. He reaches out despite knowing he could be eaten or cooked. I'm excited for the next episode reaction and discussion.

Jenny D

Haven’t even watched yet, but I’m definitely going to be keeping my opinions to myself moving forward with this show.. too much negativity in the comments can’t even voice your opinion freely without starting a debate or getting jumped on because someone can’t fathom another perspective 🤦🏽‍♀️😂

Bri-Ana Monique

I saw some smiles and even a side eye from Carter during this episode so he wasn’t completely stone faced as some say.

I❤️movies&tvshows

Randyll not bending the knee to Daenerys because she "wasn't born here" is the dumbest thing ever because he was a Targaryen supporter during Robert's war. Bad writing really shining there 😑

Alexa

Bye bye. These reactions are genuine. That is what the rest of us want to see. Go watch the other fake reactors that pretend to love the ending and think season 8 is great.

I❤️movies&tvshows

Bran's powers are OP and ruin the balance of the show

PST3

I do agree about season 8. They need to find a comfort animal, or a soft blanket, or a pillow to punch or something to help soothe themselves. It’s going to be epic.

I❤️movies&tvshows

Thank you for this episode. This outro was a bit out of control, but it's better to be authentic than faking it.

jrnoodles

They are missing out on understanding some of what has happened for sure. It’s too late to watch it now. I wish McKay could at least give them the cliff notes version of what happened during the rebellion. Maybe after episode 7 because that way there would be no spoilers. The battle at Pike plays such a big role when Theon was taken hostage because so many of the main characters were involved in that battle but by not having History and Lore they aren’t going to fully understand how it affected Jaimie, Euron, Jorah, Thoros of Myr, Theon, Yara and Baelon Greyjoy plus others. How Kings Landing Fell and what part Tywin and many other main characters played. What happened between Ned and Robert and Rhaegar/Lyanna. There is an entire history of most all the main characters tied up in those events. That is why HBO made the History and Lore because the story was so big they couldn’t fit it into the show. They made those videos to backfill each persons story and the big events in History. The new series a Knight of the Seven Kingdoms is set 70 years before GOT. History and Lore would fill some of the gap between the two. We are talking about Maester Aemon’s. (who chose to go to the wall instead of being King) family. Robert’s Rebellion was 17 years before GOT. So only a 50 year gap (1 generation) between the shows.

I❤️movies&tvshows

@bean no i dont remember that. what i remember is nobody complained about it. at least on my experience. after every show people go to youtube reviews, podcast, social media and even news and i didnt saw all the things you are talking about

Anthony Rodriguez

I am once again asking for your support to get the boys to watch "The real Tyrion Lannister" by Alt Shift X on YouTube after they finished the series (or any video about GoT by him).

mk

Then what are you there for ? You knew when you decided to be her advisor that more likely than not people would die.

Domo

What sort of reverse rain dance do I have to do to make Sean go back in his cave?

Nivek

True seeing Carter fight for his life for his opinion resonates with me so much lmao

Nivek

Exactly!!

I❤️movies&tvshows

Anyone who would like to read the books but can’t buy them or have the time to sit with a book, you can listen to the audiobook free on YouTube. It is such a great story you are only seeing it some of it on the show.

I❤️movies&tvshows

Nah he probably feels low-key guilty for bringing a dragon queen to his home country an getting his countrymen and brother's bannermen utterly crisped

Alexa

I feel you Carter. I’m kinda dealing with this for Rings of power with my friends. I simply like seeing more LOTR in general but ultimately not vibing with the new season

Nivek

Preach😂 The people she’s wanted to burn are like slave masters and people threatening to r*pe her lol. Dany a hot head. But a massive part of her character is her wanting to protect the weak and use her power(dragon and political) for help and change. Her beef is with the system and it’s perpetuators

Shadow

The “give me what I want” being freeing slaves and trying to make sure her people don’t starve? Idk it makes sense to use the one thing she has to help her on her path 😭

Nomaan

I’m glad I’m free of that

Shadow

I totally agree. Seeing Carters reactions shows how genuine these reactors are. Even the outro conversation shows how genuine these guys are. I think everyone in the comments has to remember how upset the audience and we were the first time we watched the downward spiral to the end. People were angry, depressed, sad, hurt, and every other extreme emotion. We watched this show for years. Sometimes a two year gap of anxiously waiting for the next season. So the emotion and conversation the Geks are having is actually a small degree of how everyone watching it live felt. There are people who named their children after characters in the show! Who were completely devoted to it. Then the spiral happened and they couldn’t even talk about it and refused to rewatch it for years after. There are still some people as you can see who have strong residual emotions. I am happy these guys can be honest about what is going on. Carter said this had happened with other shows they watch too. It may be more about the individual personalities of each of them. But that is what makes this channel unique and so interesting. It’s not one or two people having a few thoughts about what they are watching. It’s 5 men and each of them has something unique about their personality that brings some great entertainment to all of their reactions. Think about how Carter started this series, hiding behind his hands at the gruesome scenes and being much more emotional than the rest during the touching scenes. It brought a level of humanity we could all relate to and remember the first time we saw it. I do think episode 6 and season 8 (probably why Jack stopped at 8x1 on his first watch) are going to be more brutal on them but it’s important to finish the series.

I❤️movies&tvshows

Geks a week ago, “hey we’re releasing this statement to say we love hearing yalls opinions and takes but think maybe over 40 comments on a post is a bit much”, Sean and Amna, “hold my beer” 😤😤

Yerr

i agree 1000% with Carter. the cinematography and acting are great, it’s just the writing makes it very hard to enjoy it. you practically have to turn your brain off in some scenes

Myles

Amna, and sean going for 50 comments a piece on this post.

Yerr

Here is what I think is happening - 2 things actually and I like it. Carter is more of critique, and that’s awesome. But it also feels like this. He’s expecting, based on what he’s heard and is discussed on the reactions, that the way the show ends isn’t universally loved. Because of this, the more you point out the shortcomings, the less disappointed you might be at the end. The other guys are taking a different approach. They may not like the ending, but they are choosing to focus more on the current appeal of the show - the standout moments. Carter is right about what he sees, and it’s fine to critique them. And, there are also many amazing moments per episode all the way to the end that I look forward to hearing the reactions about. Neither approach is bad, and I wouldn’t critique yourselves. I like all perspectives - makes for a very entertaining reaction (especially the outro). Those are my thoughts and I’m loving your reactions!

flink

to be completely honest, ever since like season 2, Daenerys has ALWAYS tried to resort to “give me what i want or my dragons will burn you” but she had people guiding her to NOT do that. that’s always her first instinct

Myles

Maybe him watching one of if not his favorite show turn from 10/10 cinema into a showcase of some of the worst prime time tv show writing of the 21st century would put a guy into a sour mood idk

Bean

Ikr what a crazy thought

Bean

Beheading is better? Did you see what a butchery Theon made of beheading the castellan of Winterfell? It's not that easy to part a head from a body -historically even professional executioner's have needed up to 13 whacks! I'd definitely choose the instakill of being turned to ash in a second by the inconceivable heat of dragonfire at point blank range.

NoneOfYourBeeswax

It’s so funny people are shook that Carter has problems with this season. I’d bet my house on cannon and brig seeing the vision (all the problems) whenever they either wind up rewatching it, or after they finish season 8 and have free reign to all the YouTube got videos

Bean

It also seems a bit silly as Tarly was himself a mad keen Targaryen supporter who fought (and beat) Robert while fighting for the Mad King. D&D decided he'd just betray everyone I guess. What's crazier is that D&D have him casually choosing the extinction of House Tarly by barely even trying to save his son and only heir - that's not Sam's father at all!

NoneOfYourBeeswax

I remember when season 7 aired and sooooo many diehard fans were upset with the writing, pacing, just about everything not action related. There are entertaining moments in s7 no doubt, and in comparison to other tv shows it’s still pretty strong, but there are so many plot holes and inconsistencies and the more you analyze the events actually taking place and the motives behind characters decisions the worse it gets

Bean

Wait people WEREN’T expecting this reaction eventually from carter ? Next couple reactions are gonna be so entertaining

Kneegrow

One of the best examples of bad writing. One of many unfortunately in this season.

I❤️movies&tvshows

Maybe it’s the bad writing?

Bean

Tyrion was a joke this season. They at war & you want yo queen to sit on her hands and not kill her enemies. He fell off so hard

Domo

Horrible comparison Anthony

Bean

If Jon had two enemies that wouldn’t submit to him and denounced him as king in the north and then he had Ghost rip out their throat everyone would be hooting and howling - as would I. Like I love Dany using Drogon as her executioner😂 i’ve never seen the problem. And she only chose the highest lord

Shadow

The comments got to bro 😔

Jv1300

Grrrrrrrr.. stop disliking things that I like! 🐺

castles in the air

Arcane is gonna bring that Spark back Carter. Can't wait to watch with you guys

Ana

Randyll Tarly not bending the knee to the last (known) Targaryen is daft - he was a fervent Targaryen supporter who fought for king Aerys in Robert's rebellion - in fact he was the only person to get a win against Robert's army. He is only alive because of Robert's penchant for pardoning his defeated foes. His arguments also made no sense; Danaerys had every right to offer her vanquished foes a chance to join the Night's Watch. It was scandalous however that he made no real attempt to save his son and heir Dickon I put this down to bad writing, D&D's desire to make Danaerys seem tyrannical. I find it inconceivable that the Leader of a noble House should so casually allow it to be extinguished.

NoneOfYourBeeswax

Completely agree with Sean for once. Hate the assumption that if she takes her dragons to KL, it means thousands of innocents will die as if Dany will purposely aim for the civilians😭

Nomaan

Exactly, he’s literally referred to as a “flaming sword across the sky”. But people have an issue with whatever she does regardless so whatever 😂

Nomaan

@Sean I do not think carter is completely basing his views on the comments. But when most of the comment section is talking about how bad something is since the first episode it's gonna influence anyone a little. Like if I constantly see oh it's bad from here on out then I'm gonna be watching looking and waiting for the downfall. And yeah you can say it's obvious sure. But that's still giving them bad feelings going into certain seasons. Unlike people who watch with out any outside influences they can watch and come to those conclusions theirselves but they are not looking for the shoe to drop. All these negative comments about the ending constantly ruins their experience. No one else in these comments had to experience that while watch GoT. No one else had to constantly read about negativity. You see it in this reaction that it doesn't look fun for them anymore. People should just been quiet until we got to these seasons. Like we should of just talked about the seasons they were on and not. Talking about season 8 sucking when they just watched the first 2 episodes ya know? Negativity breeds negativity

Ana

Also Drogon is Danys sword. Her lightbringer. Those who pass the sentence should swing the sword. Drogon is an extension of herself

Shadow

Honestly enjoyed the post episode debate more than the episode. Also think what Carter's trying to say is "GOT is goated but what we watching ryt now is dogshit"

Vik Mar

still can’t believe majority of people here are bashing him just cuz he doesn’t like it. did yall want him to just fake smile the entire time?

Myles

@amna You know what is the meaning of the build up? Raven delivering a message is not a build up. Thats an equivalent of a text message. If there is nothing to talk about from kings landing to winter fell then what is there to talk about dragon stone to kings landing?

Anthony Rodriguez

Dany did nothing wrong with killing the Tarlys. Bend the knee or die. That's the game. They chose wrong because of pride. Dany is a targ so ofc she's gonna burn them. Last 2 seasons are bad because unfortunately there was no proper build up. Even though I enjoyed season 7 and the first half of 8. If we would of gotten the right amount of seasons with the same outcome it would of been goated. But they let Star Wars stop them from making GoT the best show in history. But I'm not gonna put all the blame on them they could only work with what George could give them. And George didn't and still hasn't gave anything so I could understand why they wanted to leave. It just a sucky situation all around. Also never filter yourselves. If you love something and the majority doesn't you're not wrong and it's the same if you don't like something the majority likes. It's yall opinions. I enjoy difference of opinions. The outro made me sad because everyone look defeated but I'm glad y'all talked through it. And we can all come together and hate the final 3 episodes of the series

Ana

That’s my opinion and I didn’t call anyone specific out. Go cry elsewhere

EMG

I truly don't understand how people can say Carter's own opinion is that much influenced by the comments. As if 99% of the last Game of Thrones DVD box sets didn't just sit in dust because of the bad writing... I had the same pained reactions as him when these episodes first aired, and I stayed off of the internet in those days. Even watching it again for the first time through their eyes gives me embarrassment as if I was the one who wrote the damn thing lol. I think the writing quality has always been an important aspect to him, that's nothing new?? I think it's also fine if some people don't mind just watching the spectacle with high production value, but let's not pretend it's anything more than that.

bob

Opp Tyrion

Ana

Your behaviour truly needs to be studied. Here i thought i was a hater.

hollow soul

All the yappFest about Carter not being genuine is so dumb like do u not realize u lot did this by yapping 24/7 in the comments about future episodes. 🤦‍♂️ No one cares about your comments on the show coz we here to hear their thoughts not yours. So learn to shut it for a bit. If he doesn't like your fav episodes and they don't make sense to him saying that "he's been influenced by the comments" while making those comments makes no sense 🤦‍♂️

Vik Mar

Can we please end this whole discourse about Carter's reaction with this episode. People will have different opinions, different dislikes/likes, GOT IS NOT REAL, NOBODY WILL DIE. If you can't handle that then maybe you shouldn't be on here. I signed up for unfiltered reactions and I'm getting that sooooooo🤭

Amna 🍉

you could be more respectful of people's opinions

TheSauceGuy

Though I have to say I side more with Carter here, the others shouldn't let his reaction get to them so much. In naruto for instance, Carter and Cannon seemed fine loving/hating a show simultaneously. Though can't say for behind the scenes.

Ali

Well if the presence of Drogon couldn’t make them bend the knee, then what would beheading a few do?😭 Drogon flaming them instils fear which she also needs cos clearly being kind and merciful doesn’t work

Nomaan

I don't think a perfect solution exists, because Carter should be allowed to be as disappointed and feral at the things he's reacting to as he is, and the rest also deserve to have not the enegry sucked out of their reaction/discussion but maybe a compromise could be having a softlock that only the +ve thoughts allowed first in post-discussion (in certain series), and then every1 is allowed to go feral. 🐺

Ali

STOP💀

Amna 🍉

he's gotta do the Joker forced smile

TheSauceGuy

Good lord I hate this episode. This is in my bottom 10 episodes in the show. 3/10. Basically every episode from now on is in my bottom 10 Positives: Jon patting drogon Now onto the negatives

Sean Carroll

*Sansa reminding the Lords of Winterfell that Jon is King and he's doing what's best for Winterfell* Arya: you're plotting against Jon and want to steal his position

Amna 🍉

Even with the terrible Dorne plot, season 5 could've still been significantly better had they included Faegon Targaryen (Young Griff). Like, nobody wants to see Cersei on the throne rn lmao.

TheSauceGuy

It's them trying to tie in previous plotlines quickly because they're rushing everything.

TheSauceGuy

whose mans is this

redpgps345

I enjoy watching Carter have mixed opinions on the show. I feel like the rest of the reactors are letting it impact your reactions actually. I have many of the same commiserations. I can see how you guys think it's bringing down the reaction quality, but it's really not. I also like the positivity the rest of you are bringing to s7. After all, season 8 is where the shit hits the fan, it's pretty hype and exciting watching games of thrones rn, despite the flaws.

Steve

BotB was just so nonsensical in general but very well done cinematically.

TheSauceGuy

Well, beheading is better than being burned alive. Dragonfire at least melts you relatively quickly from a direct hit like that.

TheSauceGuy

Your username is what’s wrong with the community. Get over it and let them decide for themselves without your pathetic influence attempt

EMG

That’s the problem with seasons 7 and 8. Unlike the early seasons, things move in blistering speed. It’s so rushed and 5 seasons are just crammed into two

GBuckets

I mean, they CHOSE to die. It’s not like she tortured them and gave them a slow painful death. But of course she’s “evil” so either way people were going to have a problem 😭

Nomaan

For me it was Jon during BOTB💀

Amna 🍉

I read the entire first sentence as if you were being serious lmao

TheSauceGuy

HUH? Why would she lie lol. Robert wanted to go see Lyanna in the Crypts and Cersei said he should go rest since they've been traveling for a month. I think you need to go rewatch the whole episode. THE RAVEN WAS THE BUILD UP🤦🏽‍♀️ we know the king and his family are coming, we know robert is close to ned, we know robert is coming to probably ask Ned to be hand of the king. Cat and Ned literally discuss the letter. Like what's not clicking??

Amna 🍉

It’s actually not a particularly complicated argument. The sentiment and general feeling about the show’s writing has been clearly expressed since season 1, which the boys have been reading. You chiefly among those making sure their expectations are well set. Not sure why this is confusing?

Roy Koopa

This argument makes no sense. Carter makes his comments on the episode at hand which is filmed prior to the people in the comments can tell him the issues. If he’s able to put forth his issues in a rational way than how is the comments affecting him.

Sean Carroll

Nah bro that wouldn’t work, remember Tyrion said that if she went to kings landing now than 1000s of innocents would inherently die by Dany going there now. And Tyrion is the smartest guy in the show remember. The fastest solution is for Dany to lose all of her armies and ally’s and then go and kill Cersei doing the exact same thing you just suggested…. But it’s better to do that once she’s lost her army. I hope people detect the sarcasm

Sean Carroll

I also think Dany is taking the advice from Olenna. “Be a dragon” and “they won’t obey you unless they fear you”. And since Tyrion’s counsel hasn’t been good, it makes sense that she’ll try someone else’s approach

Nomaan

Don't you know is ONLY wrong if Dany does it🙄

Amna 🍉

Yeah but they acknowledged that time though. We're aware of how much time has passed. Why would we need to see them traveling for a month when nothing happened💀 that raven was the build up, you don't need to see extra scenes when they're telling you directly what to look forward to💀 while in this season, they're not mentioning how much time has passed at all. Reunions are just randomly happening. There's no build up to anything💀

Amna 🍉

Oh so we just take Cersei word that it was a month and take it as a build up? Thats not a build up. Thats just her saying it how long it was.

Anthony Rodriguez

Oh good lord I hate both of your arguments 1. Carter is not being influenced, he’s literally explaining his issues with what he sees, people that get influenced are not able to provide coherent rationalisations as to why they feel a certain way. 2. The whole argument of “back in my day” is asinine. 7 years ago people were just happy to get anything GoT related and watched brainlessly, just look at Burlington bar reactions, I genuinely believe 80% of the fandom at that time were as brainless as them. The show is still the same 7 years ago as it is now and will still be the same in 100 years. The issues are all still there for everyone to see. The whole back when the show was airing argument is genuinely the dumbest thing people bring up to defend their point

Sean Carroll

You describe it perfectly. If Carter absolutely hated the show, I wouldn't have the slightest problem with him pouting like this the whole episode. But if you say you're enjoying it but you're mean-mugging the TV during a funny moment when before you probably would've laughed at it, yet there's not even a twitch on your lips, then it almost comes off as intentional hate. If I go on a date with that expression and later text them "Thank you for tonight, I enjoyed our date" they'd probably be shocked. And that's not to hate, I usually look forward to Carter's opinions the most.

adjaycents

😀🔫

Sean Carroll

That’s just not the same, like others said, we were specifically told back then that they had been travelling for over a month - in recent seasons we don’t get told anything about how much time is passing between fast travels. Plus in the first season we spent multiple scenes and episodes with the characters travelling back from winterfell to kings landing to show how big of a journey it is

Delane Gill

Im not mad at all at how Dany killed the Tarlys. She gave them an opportunity to bend the knee and they didn’t. And it seems like she might’ve let them take the Black but he refused that also. Bearing in mind they betrayed the Tyrell’s and then teamed up with the Lannisters to kill her allies. I think she was fair to kill them but of course they need to portray her as “mad” just cos her father was. Kinda cringe and cliche tbh. BUTTTT I also see how people will say she shouldn’t have burned them cos people already have preconceived notions and opinions of her BECAUSE of what her father did.

Nomaan

Nah, you gotta give me 5 too. 🤞🏻

Thicc Thanos

1. “You’re the hound” 2. “They’re the brotherhood” 3. “Thoros, hardly recognised you” 4. “Ser Jorah Mormont” 5: “you’re a fucking Mormont” And that’s just one scene

Sean Carroll

Yeah they were travelling for a month and got there in 10 mins. Nobody complained about that. That build up was worse than Tyrion coming back to kings landing. Jon Aryn died then Catelyn received a raven said that they are coming. Then Catelyn said they need more candles for Tyrion and Rob’s beard was being shaved. See i can put that build up in the comment section. But because people said that GOT sucks in the tail end, they now putting it in a magnifying glass

Anthony Rodriguez

Exactly, there are soooooo many hypocrites in here who will praise got all the way until season 6 and then start to criticise. I have criticised since season 5 and have received so much hate, I’ve seen those same people change their tune now that we’ve reached trash got. Looking at you Lola

Sean Carroll

I think GOT set a high standard in the beginning seasons so when it gets to the later seasons and writing suffers, it's more noticeable. I actually couldn't tell Carter was being "negative" during season 7 because I feel like it's a genuine reaction. We all know that the season could be so much better but at this point a lot of us know how things go and have made peace with it to an extent. Carter feeling the way he does but still somewhat enjoying the show makes sense because there are still things to enjoy. Also, very random, but Brig speaking high valyrian in the background will never not be funny😂

Tamara Manley

Dorne is so good in the books from what I remember reading it 5 years ago.

Sean Carroll

One of the things that bother me about this season so far is that they're not showing us if Sansa and Bran are having conversations. If my brother came back and told me about his 3 eyed raven abilities, I'd immediately be asking him all kinds of questions. 1) Can you warg into that squirrel over there and make him come sit on my lap? What other animals can you warg into? 2) Jon just went to Dragonstone to meet up with Daenerys. Can you see if she's setting a trap for him? 3) What about Cersei. Can you see and hear what strategies she's planning? 4) Can you see people while they're taking a bath? 5) If you can see in the past, did you see Littlefinger when he pushed aunt Lysa through the moon door? 6) (before Arya returned) Is Arya still alive? It's really frustrating that they aren't showing any of that.

Arthur Fields

Literally Every girlfriend I’ve ever had when they don’t like what I say

Sean Carroll

“Just feels as though you’re trying to hate season 7 because of its reputation rather instead of forming your own opinion” Carter literally provided his reasoning for his frustrations and disappointment. He’s not just hating it for no reason when he provides his reasons Don’t self insert your own ideals as to why people think certain ways just because you don’t like it or can’t see outside perspectives

Sean Carroll

If I remember correctly, Cersei said they've been traveling for a month. And Catelyn got a raven stating that Jon Arryn has died and Robert along with his whole family are coming to Winterfell, most likely to choose a Hand of the King.

Amna 🍉

But also there is nothing we or he can do about it now 🤷‍♀️

vally

Hahahahahaha this writing is so peak man

Sean Carroll

Yep, perfect buildup, perfect music and emotion. Every reunion after that gets worse

Sean Carroll

I want to say: he should react how he wants AND his (and the others) reaction is affected by the comments. Which is normal under human when there is months and months of bashing. Everyone reacts differently to that but it definitely doesn’t leave people unaffected.

vally

💯💯

Amna 🍉

That short story is better written than season 7 and 8

Sean Carroll

I just watched the discussion at the end. I love that they’re so passionate about the show and that they aren’t just hype men. They’re having genuine discussions about the show. That authenticity makes the channel special. You shouldn’t lose that dynamic. You need to keep that. Carter shouldn’t change. And the other boys should continue to challenge it. Keep it like this. It works.

Roy Koopa

Season 7s worst thing is that none of it was required apart from Jon and Dany uniting and the characters moving to the place they need to at the start of season 8.they could literally have done the exact same thing in season 7 that they do in season 8 and therefore season 7 is completely inconsequential. That’s another big thing I dislike about 6x10 is by the end of the show all that feels pointless

Sean Carroll

The dragons know

victoria t

Ya'll keep complaining that they are rushing to the show because Tyrion and Davos were able to get from Dragonsstone to Red Keep in few minutes. ya'll complaining about everytime they travel fast this episode. But no one bat an eye when Cersei and Jamie travel from Kingslanding to Winterfell in 5 mins in its very first episode.. That one was much further. There was also no build up to it. Hahaha!!!

Anthony Rodriguez

Bro if he’s already in pain now, he might walk out of the room in season 8

Sean Carroll

Drogon doing DNA test

Leo

Bro who even are you

Sean Carroll

jaime living was the first plot armor that bothered me

Joey Brock

Look, I think it’s obvious that Carter has been heavily influenced by the comments. But he is also right. Almost all of the dialogue here is simply expository. And it does rip the emotion out of the scenes. It’s almost like reading cliff notes. It’s all tell, tell, tell, and no show.

Roy Koopa

Carter bland face is killing me 😂🤣🤣

Leo

ill be honest i didnt really notice anything off w carter’s reaction during the episode. Its only when you guys pointed it out, i went back to check and yes he was fairly quiet but i think he’s allowed to express his ‘negative’ opinions about the episode/show and still think of it as an enjoyable show overall. I rather him be honest and upfront instead of faking a reaction just to please a certain section of the audience.

Samiha

I feel like the fastest solution is for Dany to just fly over to King's Landing and destroy just the Red Keep, which would likely kill Cersei and minimize collateral damage. Once Cersei's dead, it'll be far easier to have her forces join the fight in the North.

TheSauceGuy

That I can agree with you on, never would want Carter or any of the geks to fake there reactions but again I literally share the same opinion with Carter & very few comments are telling Carter to “just enjoy it” - from the perspective of the other geks & patrons, it feels like Carter is unnecessarily hating because “he tends to over inflate his criticism with much more passion that he does his enjoyment” - as the geks said, the enjoyment Carter says he has during some parts of the reaction isn’t even noticeable which can be frustrating just because his statements feel contradictory & it seems he is enthusiastic to hate but not applaud - Carter addressed this though

Karlsefni

rlly in ur feelings huh

hollow soul

Season 7 gets worse with every rewatch, so much of its core is to set up season 8 and once you have both it retroactively makes season 7 worse BUT if you ignore 95% of the dialogue and plot armor it is still FUN

Euphemia Isobel

Carter is being influenced heavily by the comments and people telling him its mid. I remember when season 7 were aired live and i never heard anyone complained about it. Every after episode was a big news on social media discussing what happened. I guess i was fortunate that i was able to watched it at the time it was aired and was not influenced by anyone's opinion on the show. Back in that time, no one and i mean no one complained about season 7.

Anthony Rodriguez

I just hope Carter doesn't listen to all this backlash and become a fake, giving us fake reactions and opinions for the sake of others. And again, I hope you all keep this energy when they have negative opinions on things that you all also have negative opinions on, because I know there's things that 99% of people have over-exaggerated hate towards , and when we get there you guys better be telling them to enjoy it and accept it for what it is instead of hating on it with them.

BloodyBen

I agree, just let people react genuinely. There's no need to sugarcoat things unless you're being rude or personal.

TheSauceGuy

don’t think you even read my comment 🤦🏾‍♂️- I completely agree with Carter’s critiques regarding GOT & said they are “reasonable, fair & relatively common” - I’m just providing my explanation of the geks possibly feeling this disconnect with Carter as he tends to overinflate his criticism with much more passion than he does his enjoyment and giving my thoughts on why he possibly does so…

Karlsefni

Carter, just react how you want. If you don’t feel anything then that’s no problem. Much rather have that then a fake reaction. I also never complained about McKays HQ reactions even though it was much worse than you now. But I also do think that the whole bashing for MONTHS in this comment section affected you. Which is kinda sad because even though yes season 7 is not up to GoT standards it’s still not the worst thing on earth and still has great moments and is overall enjoyable. So I understand it being great (in comparison to other shows) but also mid (for GoT standard).

vally

Take that back 💀

Afra

Agreed.

BloodyBen

Good shit boys on that post discussion, love the realness. When it comes to the show i can't say much, the general consensus being what it is. We in the final strech tho and I enjoyed it to the end, you guys do you. =) Love

hollow soul

Which is the frustrating part about what happened this episode - Carter is getting scrutinized for having negative opinions both by the Geks and the Patreons, but come S8 everyone will be hating so then hating is okay? this "just stay positive and accept it for what it is" energy won't last, not even to those saying it. Which just seems hypocritical imo

BloodyBen

I could further elaborate on this as it is a trend I have noticed through multiple shows they react to but I think I’ll get quite a bit of backlash for doing so. Don’t get me wrong - Carters my guy & I enjoy his personality, hearing his thoughts & opinions etc. etc. but sometimes his critiques just feel a a bit over - exaggerative

Karlsefni

Or... and here me out... its not that deep and its just someone with a different opinion to the majority, shocking thought right? who would've thought a grown man was capable of making up his own mind on how he feels? you guys are so upset that Carter dislikes things and its baffling tbh, like what did you expect? to watch 5 guys and expect them all to always have the same opinions? like some kinda hive mind? It will never make sense to me that people actually want fake reactions and opinions out of people, and when you get negative opinions your first thought is that its fake and he's putting on some kinda show? be for real bro. And I already know you and many others won't keep this energy when things you dislike happen, then you'll be on Carter's side saying how this character was ruined and that plot makes no sense.

BloodyBen

Carter seems like the leader so his opinions hold more weight and seems to be scrutinized more

Q So Raww

nooo!!!! how will we cope

Has

Facts. Like I want the vengeful Tyrion. The Tyrion in the books would of never did nothing like this. Taking out the scene of him truly hating his family made all his moves in the show sympathetic to his family. Making him an opp. Like why is Tyrion looking at Dany crazy because she killed the Tarlys.....? Like what did he think was gonna happen? He acts like he's so much better and that she did the wrong thing. Whats the difference between a sword and fire. Ugh I hate Tyrion so much

Ana

💯💯💯

Nikita M

The suicide squad of GOT

Leo

Season 7 is good imo but season 8 sheesh

Q So Raww

don’t think this is what the other geks are doing at all. Carters critiques are reasonable, fair & relatively common. It just feels like Carter overinflates his criticisms/disapprovals as if he has trying to portray himself as a great critic to the patreon community. Humblebrags like “I’m just a writing snob” “good writing just gets me ticking”, “this is one of my flaws” implying that his standard is higher, which could entirely be the case. But the way I perceive it, comments that overly support/ compliment Carter’s thinking insinuating thinks like he’s the only “critical thinker” just gives Carter more of a reason to portray himself in that manner . It may also very well motivate Carter to have that much more of an eagle eye & go into reactions specifically looking for things to critique . Now saying all this I think the majority of Carter’s thoughts/opinions are genuine and he really is someone who can only really really enjoy a show with an intricate plot, however I do believe this can be the source of his over exaggeration

Karlsefni

😭😭😭

Nash

I mean what they said made sense, if you just looked at Carter during these reactions you would think he hates watching the show but at the same time he says it's good. After the discussion i know to take notice of his words in the outro not necessarily his physical reaction.

Skyz

About Daenerys burning them…I think about it the same way I think about what Daemon said to those soldiers in S1 - acknowledge Rhaenyra as the true Queen or die (cue Caraxes in the background). Yes, this is expected of Daemon, but I’m not comparing their characters, more the needs for this mindset during a war. I too don’t see an alternative - locking them up isn’t good as then she would have 1000 people in prison and 0 on her side. Now, how reliable is to have someone on your side just out of fear of being burned is another thing.

Bambina

I completely understand what Carter means. I know the feeling but I definitely think the negative comments here have had an influence on your viewing experience. I don't think you're basing your opinion on them but subconsciously it gets to you at the end of the day (especially since you said you read them all). I mean there's a guy who has his username dedicated to his hate of the show and writes a whole essay each time. lol Although, I myself, agree with a lot of the complaints of the viewers, I know that hearing the bad parts would make me see them more as I watched. From what I remember, at the time I'd go on reddit for discussions and memes, and for the most part during season 7 viewers were still enjoying the good parts although still not happy about the pace. Idk it still felt fun watching characters we hadn't seen for a year probably that's why we were more forgiving of the flaws.

Nikita M

That’s my isssueeeee. They keep the actual characters who are out for revenge and blood in the books as heroes in the show, and the ones who are the actual heroes they try to paint out as a villain. Like Tyrion in the books is not this peaceful morally right hero like he is in the show after season 4. And Dany is not this girl who burns people or is rude and snarky.

Nomaan

And that’s what makes me mad. In BOTH books and show, Cersei is the one that’s been showing signs of “Mad Queen” energy and the parallels between her and the Mad King. But of course when Dany is ruthless once or twice, she’s the “Mad Queen” like her father. It’s honestly cringey

Nomaan

The boys hate that Carter dislikes things. Let bro dislike it if he dislikes it, I personally am not here for fake reactions or opinions - whether positive or negative I want genuine reactions and opinions. Carter: stay genuine bro, the real ones want your honest reactions/opinions. The rest of the boys: be sure to keep that "just be positive and take it for what it is" energy when things you dislike happen between now and the final episode.

BloodyBen

What carter is saying is in the older seasons the reunion would have been handled where the scene was longer, there would have been extra scenes to set it up for the future, and it wouldn't have happened in the same episode let alone the next moment. It's basically a movie that cuts abruptly to another scene after discussing the idea behind something. The show has become a basic movie, kind of similar to how the MCU has become with their movies, all spectacle no substance.

CoLdBITeR

The more passionate I am about a series, the more critical I tend to be of its faults; I at least get more frustrated by them. I criticize aspects of GoT and HotD because I imagine what could have been. It's upsetting to me that something as unique as GoT could fall so far and that we'll probably never get a faithful adaptation of it.

TheSauceGuy

Anybody else notice a lot of the dialogue now is the writers trying to remind the audience of how the characters are connected? "The last time we met..." "Remember when you said *insert exact quote from previous season*"

S

I feel like my response was somewhat convoluted so I appreciate you deciphering it 😂 and yeah I totally hear what you’re saying 100%

Ophelia

😭

Kite

So im actually really glad you guys had this conversation and even more glad that you didn't cut it out of the video. I do think Carter's negative reactions/comments stand out to me more than the others but after this video i understand why. You guys broke it down perfectly, it's just that his positive verbal thoughts don't line up with his physical reactions. Judging from his physical reactions i used to think once he made up his mind about a show it would never change, like the contrast between him and the other geks is very visible. For example in this video when tyrion and varys have that funny moment about varys reading the scroll when he's not supposed to and i see everyone laugh but i turn to look at carter and its just a straight face whereas in a previous season im sure a joke like that would have gotten a small laugh out of him. I do still think he lets the bad moments affect his physical reaction too much but at least now i know to value his words over his reaction, sometimes thats just how people are. But as always thanks for the 100 percent honesty guys, keep it up.

derick ako

Don't worry guys, they'll all be on the same page next season!

TheSauceGuy

Carter said that his words will matter more than his facial reactions. Lol you're good, I understand what you're saying I rather just get a non filtered initial reaction yk

Amna 🍉

Bye

entendencia

thissss

R

Surely

TheSauceGuy

If you come here expecting to hear what you want to hear and just for the sake of "being pleased", this is not for you. Good luck with that

Juanca

He kinda forgot

Thicc Thanos

I watched the full uncut version and yeah it got a little heated but nothing outrageous. It’s cool to see them “break character” and argue because you get a sense that they really are like brothers and not just coworkers putting on their best for the camera

GB3

Since you all commented on how sad it is that Davos’ son died in the Blackwater Battle, I want to share that in the books Davos has seven sons! His four oldest sons are all seamen and all of them died in the Blackwater Battle. Another of his other sons is a squire for Stannis Baratheon. That son gets seen a fair amount in the books. And his two youngest sons are very young and live at home with their mother. They have had no real impact on the story, other than Davos thinking about them from time to time. Davos also has some interesting adventures in the books, instead of being a sidekick to Jon Snow. But those parts of the story were never adapted into the television series. But Davos is just as much of a favorite character in the books as he is in the show. Some characters are quite different in the two formats of the story. This comment is meant purely to encourage people to read the books, for a much deeper story with lots of additional characters doing interesting things. For example, in your wrapup discussion of this episode, the Season Five Dorne story was brought up as an example of how bad that season was. One of the things that makes it even worse is that the Dorne story in the books is a fan favorite with a great many readers. So it was quite a disappointment to see it done so poorly for the show.

Blackeyedlily

I'm just going to say that it's cool that you guys are good friends and when there's a "problem" you talk about it and solve it. At the end of the day everyone has their own opinion and no matter what there's going to be some idiots that can't understand that, I appreciate that you guys are genuine and honest with your reactions and opinions, personally that's why I like watching your videos and even pay for this Patreon.

Kite

I’m here for y’alls real reaction and it’s interesting when y’all have differing feelings, thoughts and reactions

Shadow

But it’s not about that, it’s not about not accepting a different opinion. If he thinks it sucks, he’s allowed to think it sucks. But you know those people who hate something, and want to make sure other people don’t enjoy it either? I’m not saying that’s him but that’s the ENERGY it’s bringing and I think that’s the biggest complaint. Like they mentioned he sucked the air out of the room, there’s no need for that. He has every right to not enjoy it and voice that in abundance, but he can do it in a more productive and maybe lighter way so that his friends who may be enjoying it don’t feel bogged down by a negative ENERGY. Not negative opinions, because you can have negative opinions with a more positive energy. Hopefully I’m explaining myself clearly here 😭

Ophelia

To be fair to Carter he wasn't a complete stone face this episode, at least compared to episode 4 lol.

Skyz

But I rather have that than him pretending to like it. Like ya'll are just assuming he is affected by the comments when the Geks have always been honest with their reaction. Like it's getting annoying bc ppl can't accept a different opinion

Amna 🍉

They really did ruin Arya's character the moment they made her a "feminine" hating character. She's a girl's girl in the books. She would never hate feminine related things

Amna 🍉

Tyrion was getting outsmarted by my girl Catelyn in the books

Amna 🍉

Why did they cut it?

DARK EXPERT

Yes I think it’s more the negative Nancy aspect and behavior as opposed to the actual opinions. I don’t think anyone’s disagreeing with his actual opinions it’s more so the poutiness for lack of a better term

Ophelia

Dany is nothing like the Mad King though. The Mad King wanted to burn down the whole city for no reason. So far, Cersei has been the most similar to the Mad King.

Amna 🍉

Cant wait to get home from work n dive into this 🤿

Fatipapi

I mean maybe you can summarize the 5 mins they have cut? Did it get too heated or something?

DARK EXPERT

Just remember that they're going BEYOND the wall with a small group to fight white walkers who can't go PAST the walls. At this point, they still don't know their full potential power

Amna 🍉

Just a reminder it’s not always what you say, sometimes it’s how you say it ❤️ appreciate the vulnerability at the end from all of you!

Ophelia

Yeah it was hard to watch lol, and then littlefinger at the end like he planned the whole thing was the icing on the cake

darist

If everyone reacted to this GOT season like Carter it just wouldn't be a very enjoyable reaction to watch. That's not to say you aren't entitled to your own opinions of the show. Just feels as though you're trying to hate season 7 because of its reputation instead of forming your own opinion. Even if you aren't that's just how it comes off when you have very little to say during the show and seem visibly frustrated throughout the reaction. Saying a tidbit of positives at the end is great but it's outweighed by the glum look during the whole reaction. Not trying to spread hate or anything just giving a viewer's perspective as to why you feel singled out. Still love your guy's reactions.

DemonSid999

Not Oberyn😂💀

Shadow

Brig said he likes season 7 more than seasons 1-4 and Carter immediately gave him a flying RKO. He went from completely at rest to instantly launching himself 6 feet in the air totally ignoring the laws of physics. It was insane. Then McKay and Cannon interfered and started stomping Carter. Referee Jack then disqualified Brig for getting outside help causing Brig to lose his chance to win the championship since this was for the title. Brig, McKay and Cannon surround Jack and put him through the coffee table. Carter tries to help but they just beat him down again getting themselves a ton of heat. They then take Carter’s title and hold it in the air as they stand over him. That’s when it fades to black as JR is yelling obscenities at them. And that’s all they edited out. Pretty good episode and definitely has me excited for next week.

Thicc Thanos

Ahh yes THEE Targaryen loyalist during Robert’s Rebellion refusing to bend the knee to a Targaryen. Makes so much sense

Nomaan

I want them to watch History and Lore sooooo bad. They need to see how disgusted Ned was with Robert regarding Elia and her children's murder

Amna 🍉

Haha no but honestly don’t even know I don’t think its something big bc I can’t really see a difference

Jessica

And that’s the tea 😎

Jessica

Sansa didn't even do anything for Arya to find her suspicious. Their beef was so forced and did not make sense at all. Especially, after everything they've been through. Arya is behaving like "no one" but the whole point of her coming back was that she's Arya Stark and not "no one"

Amna 🍉

Also I understand it being hard to describe how you feel about this season. It’s a weird feeling. And one that I still don’t fully understand and this like 4th or 5th rewatch lmao.

Shadow

Awwwww that outro 😢😢😢

Ana

Jon and sansa reunion is the best reunion in the series.

Leo

Ok I’ll tell you people what happened in the 6 minutes that were cut: Carter and Brig went to Kings Landing, got to Bron and convinced him to bring Jamie down to the crypts where they had their first meeting in years, while also getting Gendry, killed some guards and left. I swear it was only 6 minutes!!

Mel

As a Stark stan, I don't remember the Sansa and Arya scenes being this....cringy?

Amna 🍉

Lmao. The drama. Yikes

EMG

Yea I’m watching it rn while commenting on this one lmaoooo

Shadow

Just put the fries in the bag, D&D

Thicc Thanos

Carter don't mind the comments. Being "negative" is not a bad thing. Many people felt like this too. I've always liked how we get honest reactions from you guys and is the reason I decided to subscribe.

Amna 🍉

I get where you’re coming from Carter. I’m a person that gives no reaction or not so “correct/normal” one, a lottt(unlike u and I felt it u were still pretty positive throughout I didn’t even realize what people been talking about) and it is frustrating af to have people misinterpret what you’re truly feeling. I’ve had to tell a lot of people to just take my word or ask me what I’m actually feeling. And some of it does fall on me not always maybe being conscious or vocalizing it better in the moment. Idk why my body language and “reactions” don’t always display my true feelings but it happens. And it’s hard to critique something when everyone around u is positive on it and u still enjoy it and love the unverise. It’s clear you don’t want to ruin their fun at all. You’re probs swayed more by not wanting to upset or step on their fun than anything else cuz those your boys lol

Shadow

Spill the beans on the original edit

TheSauceGuy

I don't understand how it's bandwagon when people have valid reasons to not like it💀 over a million signed a petition to re-do last season of GOT. It really did get that bad. People can like it, there's no problem with that. But Carter gave valid reasons to not like it as much

Amna 🍉

The Tyrion and Jaime reunion is bad because in the books. Tyrion do not fuck with Jaime anymore after Jaime set him free. They try to keep Tyrion the hero and made him have no flaws. When that is not Tyrion. Tyrion had a lot of Lannister ways but the show removes it. The happy reunion was never planned for them so that's probably why it was bad

Ana

omg, first reply to first comment

TheSauceGuy

I'm no snitch

Kite

Can you tell what's the reason they did a reupload? what part did they cut out?

DARK EXPERT

I'm coming into this Gek drama after the high note that was The Desolation of Smaug haha.

TheSauceGuy

Please do tell what is the part they have cropped out here? I am curious.

DARK EXPERT

what was the original lmao?

TheSauceGuy

Oberyn style

TheSauceGuy

personally i dont think the "reunion" was bad and that it was exactly what it was supposed to be, theyre on opposing sides, no one was supposed to know about it, its supposed to be a little shock when you see that bron lead him to tyrion instead of training out of sight, the emotions that were there made sense to me. Jaime feels angry and betrayed by tyrion cause he helped him escpae just for him to kill their dad and tyrion is angry at his dad and at Jaime for not understanding why he did it, BUT that love they still have for each other is what keeps them from really going at each other (Jaime just killing Tyrion or capturing him). I do understand the speed at which people end up from place to place in the show is fast but that doesnt bother me, and its not like we usually see the traveling happen anyway.

Frosty

In all honesty, and I’m probably in the minority here, i liked season 8 more than 7. Obviously not gonna say anything that happens but sometimes I pretend in my head that different things happened in season 7 to set up for season 8 and it makes me feel better haha which is terrible, but it gives me a bit of happiness for my fav show.

Mel

l0l i wish i caught the first edit of the outro, welp time to watch nevertheless =D

hollow soul

I'm watching it right now 😭 I haven't refreshed the page

Kite

Glad most of the guys aren’t jumping on the bandwagon hate yet. People are so annoying 😂

EMG

I can imagine 😂

Afra

Oh boy I’m still watching the last upload 😅 how is it still working for me

Jessica

Yeah it felt wrong that I was watching it after it was deleted. but it never errored soo haha

Mel

I can’t wait for Carter’s reaction to s8. His head is going to explode 😂

GB3

the boys are gonna be devastated about entendencia leaving

Desolation

I think I get what Carter is trying to say - The Tyrion and Jaime reunion being "not that bad" is exactly what I felt was wrong with it. A show of this caliber should not be having scenes that important be just mid. The entire idea of ASOIAF and GoT is that they have distinguished themselves from 99% of other shows, and then when you see scenes like this it's just flat out disappointing, since that is the kinda stuff you expect from "everything else", but not GoT. Do let me know if I'm wrong.

C2-H5-OH

Limited edition yessir

Shadow

Why am I getting Deja vu

Shadow

💀💀💀 unreal thing to say as a reaction watcher, i understand having differing opinions doesnt neccesarily feel good but that is wild

Frosty

hmm I'll pretend I didn't watch the original version of this post 🫣

Kite

Some of these opinions are such downers, I can’t believe I pay for this. Time to move on to better and more positive reactions , later

entendencia

Omg I’m First comment

Ant just watching