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12 Monkeys S2E10

FATHERLAND 

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β€œI was a thing in a box” I love Olivia’s character. Definitely my next favourite after Jennifer. The Mantis - Olivia -Messengers/Mantis - Olivia loop is called a bootstrap paradox. Where something goes through time and then creates itself infinitely

Wanda Did Nothing Wrong

Oh and about your last question, they don't actually say exactly how they created the 12 messengers, during the last last episode of season 1, they just show them as 12 babies in cribs and we assume they are taking them to some shelter or bunker some where to ride out the plague so that they can take Katerina's facility in 2043 and send themselves back to the past to paradox primaries. I would assume they were created in a lab like Olivia, but they don't really explain how she was created either, just that they used the female messengers eggs. Maybe they did use Olivia's eggs to create the 12 and they are created from each other, again something that wouldn't even exist without time travel.

Richard Higgs

Just to clarify, they stopped the paradox in 1975 (episode 6) when they killed the serial killer primary called The Immortal. They didn't stop the paradox in 1944 (episodes 3 and 4), when the female messenger who survives and the male messenger paradox Tommy in the mental institution. The last paradox is in 1957. Also, because the female messenger survives, Kirchner is able to use her eggs to create Olivia and from her they create the 12 messengers, one of which is the female messenger who goes back to 1944 and survives the paradox. So, basically the messengers create themselves because they use her as a template to create Olivia and then eventually themselves. Round and round. And, if you go back to episode 5, when Cassie goes back to get Jennifer to tell them about the primary in 1975, and they get captured by the tall man, in the mansion they take them to, Jennifer sees the Word of the Witness and you can see the top right corner torn off, and now you know why.

Richard Higgs


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