BONUS: The Time Muammar Gaddafi Recruited a Chicago Street Gang
Added 2023-07-01 03:52:55 +0000 UTCOnce upon a time the dictator of Libya, Muammar Gaddafi, attempted to recruit a Chicago street gang from Chicago to conduct terror attacks in America. This is the very dumb story.
Sources:
https://content.time.com/time/subscriber/article/0,33009,966132,00.html
https://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/November-1988/The-Making-of-Jeff-Fort/
https://www.upi.com/Archives/1987/07/24/El-Rukn-charged-with-transport-of-rocket/3358554097600/
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1969/05/chicagos-blackstone-rangers-i/305741/
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/aug/26/hana-gaddafi-daughter-mystery
https://www.welt.de/politik/ausland/article13530021/Gaddafis-Kinder-Totgesagte-leben-laenger.html
Josh Sinai. Libya's Pursuit of Weapons of Mass Destruction. chrome-extension://efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj/https://www.nonproliferation.org/wp-content/uploads/npr/sinai43.pdf
Comments
still waiting on the Gaddafi / Stalin / Trotsky fic read
Illuin DB
2025-02-01 02:43:55 +0000 UTCI can confirm (fortunately/unfortunately as you choose to perceive it) that there are no Ao3 fics under either the tags Trash Future or Lions Led by Donkeys (yet).
Ariane Signalis is the Elster Signalis Fan Club and challenges you to play SIGNALIS without pointing at any of the characters an
2024-12-20 01:35:25 +0000 UTCI totally and completely disagree agree with the dude above, I love hearing about your vaping stuff!! well I do agree MOST vape nerds do suck, there is a sect of vape nerd that are actually cool, they are the Mixers(people who DIY the vape juice) we know stuff about why flavors taste a certain way, we hook our vape friends up with free/actually affordable vape juice, were always vaping on something that taste interesting or smells interesting and usually know what going on with vaping regulations because we have to know they just in case we have to stock up on nicotine because of new restrictions. If you vape and you donโt have a mixing friend, you got to find one they make your vape experience so much better. ๐คฃ๐
Ryan
2024-10-27 16:39:33 +0000 UTCI love this episode so much and listen every month or so. Please do a LLBD t-shirt that says "Don't give Gaddafi the aux cord" ๐
Lee Duce
2024-09-21 11:09:38 +0000 UTCOk, so you talked about alchy-snobs; how do you feel about cigarette snobs? Are you particular about a brand? For my part, when I was a smoker, if I only had $5 in my pocket, I'd settle for whatever was cheapest (I never went menthol, though, gross). I also found it waaaaay cheaper to roll my own, but because I'm lazy af, I still often overpaid for pre-rolled. It seems y'all are mostly vaping these days, and I really don't want to hear about that; vape nerds are in the top 5 worst nerds.
0ctomaton
2024-02-07 00:59:44 +0000 UTCOh Boons Farm.... Those were the days... But I always liked MD20/20 better.
Kate B
2024-02-03 02:59:20 +0000 UTCOk, that goes into my Top 5 LLBD Episodes list ๐ And I gotta say, I'm a seriously unfit 43 yo, but my last 2 live gigs I spent the whole set in the pit. Took me multiple days to recover, but that's been the case since 30 ๐
heffa
2023-12-29 15:17:18 +0000 UTCIt's literally the plot of a dumb videogame. It's uncanny how similar it is to Modern Warfare 2.
SecondSafestSlav
2023-11-20 05:47:51 +0000 UTCMichael Flynn' whole geopolitical ideas about Iran, Mexican narcos, and Islamic extremists working together is literally the plot of the new Call of Duty games. Minus the Russian stuff of course because Qanon guys love Russia.
SecondSafestSlav
2023-11-20 05:46:21 +0000 UTCIt should have been Francis and Shocks on this episode for tradition's sake ๐คฃ
Akshay Anand
2023-10-03 06:07:18 +0000 UTCAlso worth shouting out the time in 1987 when Gaddafi sponsored a nearly bankrupt German hockey team, ECD Iserlohn, and they played and won a single game wearing Green Book jerseys, then the league threatened to ban them if they didn't give up the sponsorship deal.
Rachael
2023-08-17 17:29:10 +0000 UTCAs a craft beer nerd, we are in fact, mostly harmless and most people who really enjoy craft beer also homebrew so itโs fun to sort of try and figure out what kind of hops/grain was used in the beer and how.
Nick Finan
2023-07-17 17:01:46 +0000 UTCThey say the Lathe grew three times in size that day...
FishTank
2023-07-11 23:23:50 +0000 UTCEstablishing the Nate Bethea extended universe AO3 tag with an AU coffeeshop fic where all the guys have to wear maid costumes.
Page Chase
2023-07-08 13:15:42 +0000 UTCGreat episode, but also a really weird worlds-colliding moment for me. I was among the founders of the OTW, the non-profit behind the Archive of Our Own, and let me tell you, if you'd told me in 2008 that one day I'd be listening to some guys on a military history podcast search for Muammar Gaddafi fic on our Archive, I would very much have not believed you.
Cat Meier
2023-07-06 01:10:30 +0000 UTCa role model in the scene ๐๐๐
Robert Heilman
2023-07-05 01:34:43 +0000 UTCThe Nate-Tom-Joe host trifecta is like the Voltron of podcast hosting.
ChipotleAway
2023-07-04 19:36:57 +0000 UTCGaddafi was definitely on speed, I've met people who saw him get speed injections, on stage, in the 80s.
Psychedelic Alien
2023-07-04 04:11:39 +0000 UTCWhat is Gaddafi gave Rondo the AT launcher from the infamous bazooka pic
LD-50 Seattle
2023-07-03 22:19:42 +0000 UTCGentlemen, I am a 45 year old chick that still gets in the pit on the regular. Youโd be fine
Cathleen Horan
2023-07-03 21:20:03 +0000 UTCit was a thing in the discord years ago where i did a military catgirl fic and called it hoolinyans of kandahar which is where the catgirl thing on the discord comes from
Lain of the Wired
2023-07-03 19:16:05 +0000 UTCGreat episode, always wanted to know more about this. And I know itโs not important at all but as a Virginia local, I just wanted to say Pusha T is from VA โฅ๏ธ๐
Doug Buchanan
2023-07-03 14:19:49 +0000 UTCThe important question is who was playing at the show that Tom was avoiding the pit for? Inquiring minds want to know! Who was playing, Tom?
Chris Morse
2023-07-03 12:11:13 +0000 UTCI kept thinking of The Wire while listening to this and picturing Fort as Stringer Bell.
Rosemary S Callahan Gray
2023-07-02 22:40:09 +0000 UTCMan I lost so many shoes in mosh pits over the years. Thought it was just me.
ruin
2023-07-02 18:33:08 +0000 UTCNative south side Chicagoan here. Looking forward to listening to this one
Sean Hopkins
2023-07-02 18:23:42 +0000 UTCNate describing Mike Flynns worldview just made it sound like the latest Jack Ryan season
Nick Rachielles
2023-07-02 10:22:39 +0000 UTCI generally don't like alcohol unless it's drowned in sugar or is a beer that tastes like bread, but Kavalan might be a good option if you don't like the smokiness of Scotch
John Her
2023-07-02 00:14:23 +0000 UTCAs a distiller in the craft spirits industry, I feel you about whiskey dudes. People can be so condescending about it for no reason. I guess just being a douche is a touching personality trait for them.
Brian Waryck
2023-07-01 21:17:09 +0000 UTCHearing about Ghaddafi naming a series of mosques after him reminds me about how Lahore, Pakistan still has a major stadium named after him, which they have not bothered to change even a decade after he was deposed. Going back to the city and hearing that name as a normal landmark is still jarring for me.
S.O. Khan
2023-07-01 19:22:56 +0000 UTCIn the heat of a summer niiiiight...in the land of the dollar bill
Madwoman Madrigal
2023-07-01 15:30:05 +0000 UTCFriend of the pod
Philip Brooks
2023-07-01 15:08:14 +0000 UTCIf I recall, the code was partially cracked by sending police to ask their gang HQ specific questions. Fort would then get reports in code on what the police were asking about on the jailhouse phone.
Sparky
2023-07-01 14:45:28 +0000 UTCReally enjoyed this episode! Always good to hear some shit-talking. Minor push-back on the good Guinness pub/bad Guinness pub thing though - the good Guinness pubs tend to be (in my experience) oul fellas' pubs, with the serving staff able to work at a slower pace, and serving a lot of Guinness, so they're not trying to go between an order for two pints and ten fat frogs at the same time. They tend to be pubs where you'd meet up for a few pints and a chat rather than going out on the batter or going on the pull. And by all means complain if the pint tastes bad - there may be something legitimately wrong with it. But wherever you are, if you're bitching at the bar staff over a pint not being picture perfect, do the whole world a favour and fuck off.
Pol R
2023-07-01 10:35:37 +0000 UTCFlyn has to be talking to a Egyptian or Egyptian Expat, (speaking as one) the Muslim brotherhood conspiracy theories are sooo common to the point most claim they control Turkey and somehow the German state
Aly Said
2023-07-01 09:44:49 +0000 UTCIโd love to mention that mark wahlberg said himself that about the 911 flight that โIf I was on that plane with my kids, it wouldn't have went down like it did. There would have been a lot of blood in that first-class cabin and then me saying, 'OK, we're going to land somewhere safely, don't worry.โโ
MrRandomGuy3
2023-07-01 08:04:51 +0000 UTCThank you Tom for the Rafa joke
Shane Roberts
2023-07-01 05:21:33 +0000 UTCWell, I guess Iโm not going to lay down. Time to stay awake and listen to some Donk-Cast.
I_like_planes_and_cities
2023-07-01 05:16:40 +0000 UTCThe Pakistani Physicist's name, 'Abdu'l-Qadir, means "servant of the almight." Joe read it as Abu'l-Qadir, which means "father of the almighty."
Shane Roberts
2023-07-01 05:11:50 +0000 UTCChivas regal gained recognition in south Korea as it was known to be a personal favorite of the dictator Park Jung Hee.
OgodaiHan
2023-07-01 04:21:02 +0000 UTCthe moes!
Wuwu
2023-07-01 03:55:37 +0000 UTC
